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Title: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: mongers on August 28, 2013, 09:15:27 PM
He keeps missing 'his stories' nowadays; seriously there's something wrong with lad, it's like he's now gotta social life or something.   :rolleyes:

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Earth life 'may have come from Mars'
By Simon Redfern
Reporter, BBC News, Florence

Life may have started on Mars before arriving on Earth, a major scientific conference has heard.

New research supports an idea that the Red Planet was a better place to kick-start biology billions of years ago than the early Earth was.

The evidence is based on how the first molecules necessary for life were assembled.

Details of the theory were outlined by Prof Steven Benner at the Goldschmidt Meeting in Florence, Italy.

Scientists have long wondered how atoms first came together to make up the three crucial molecular components of living organisms: RNA, DNA and proteins.

The molecules that combined to form genetic material are far more complex than the primordial "pre-biotic" soup of organic (carbon-based) chemicals thought to have existed on the Earth more than three billion years ago, and RNA (ribonucleic acid) is thought to have been the first of them to appear.

Simply adding energy such as heat or light to the more basic organic molecules in the "soup" does not generate RNA. Instead, it generates tar.

RNA needs to be coaxed into shape by "templating" atoms at the crystalline surfaces of minerals.

The minerals most effective at templating RNA would have dissolved in the oceans of the early Earth, but would have been more abundant on Mars, according to Prof Benner.

This could suggest that life started on the Red Planet before being transported to Earth on meteorites, argues Prof Benner, of the Westheimer Institute of Science and Technology in Gainesville, US.

The idea that life originated on Mars and was then transported to our planet has been mooted before. But Prof Benner's ideas add another twist to the theory of a Martian origin for the terrestrial biosphere.
........

Rest of interesting article here, with more on the chemistry:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23872765 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23872765)
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 28, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
Your gratuitous and pointless slap at Timmy is pointless and gratuitous.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 28, 2013, 09:51:24 PM
I'm at work, and unlike some Languishtistas that means I'm busy.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 28, 2013, 09:51:49 PM
OH SNAP TIMMAY DROPS THA HAMMAH
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: mongers on August 29, 2013, 06:00:50 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 28, 2013, 09:51:24 PM
I'm at work, and unlike some Languishtistas that means I'm busy.

You posted, ergo.   :P
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: grumbler on September 01, 2013, 08:37:36 AM
Another non-story puffed into a misleading story by the BBC.  The theory isn't new, and the  Goldschmidt Conference (not " Goldschmidt Meeting") isn't a "major scientific conference."

Some new theoretical data got presented to an industry meeting.  Woopie.

Thanks, Tim, for not bothering with this trivia.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: Neil on September 01, 2013, 09:10:46 AM
Yeah, this theory was around when I was a boy.

Nevertheless, even if early earth life came from Mars, we still wouldn't be extraterrestrials.  The distant ancestor is a landed immigrant, and we're as earthly as mom or apple pie.  Your nativist thinking is a sign of a deep racism, and you should be ashamed of yourself.  You might as well just go stand on the streetcorner and shout 'wog' at passers-by.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 01, 2013, 09:40:45 AM
This has been around for decades.  Although it was often comets carrying the seeds.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: mongers on September 01, 2013, 10:46:09 AM
Quote from: grumbler on September 01, 2013, 08:37:36 AM
Another non-story puffed into a misleading story by the BBC.  The theory isn't new, and the  Goldschmidt Conference (not " Goldschmidt Meeting") isn't a "major scientific conference."

Some new theoretical data got presented to an industry meeting.  Woopie.

Thanks, Tim, for not bothering with this trivia.

He swings, he misses.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again!
Post by: mongers on July 27, 2016, 04:16:17 PM
Doesn't need a new thread so posting in this one.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoQeZxTVMAACA1z.jpg)


Dark Side Of The Moon ?
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: The Brain on July 27, 2016, 04:21:34 PM
We can't see it. The dark side of the moon.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: mongers on July 27, 2016, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 27, 2016, 04:21:34 PM
We can't see it. The dark side of the moon.

Try refreshing your browser or some such similar techno wizardry.  ;)
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: The Brain on July 27, 2016, 04:28:06 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 27, 2016, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 27, 2016, 04:21:34 PM
We can't see it. The dark side of the moon.

Try refreshing your browser or some such similar techno wizardry.  ;)

It's called dark for a reason.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 27, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
I can't make out what land mass that is.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: The Brain on July 27, 2016, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 27, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
I can't make out what land mass that is.

Ooh garbon is gonna tear you a new one.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: mongers on July 27, 2016, 04:39:11 PM
Gotta say some of the twitter comments on this photo are just :bleeding: :bleeding:

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: 11B4V on July 27, 2016, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 28, 2013, 09:15:27 PM
He keeps missing 'his stories' nowadays; seriously there's something wrong with lad, it's like he's now gotta social life or something.   :rolleyes:

Quote
Earth life 'may have come from Mars'
By Simon Redfern
Reporter, BBC News, Florence

Life may have started on Mars before arriving on Earth, a major scientific conference has heard.

New research supports an idea that the Red Planet was a better place to kick-start biology billions of years ago than the early Earth was.

The evidence is based on how the first molecules necessary for life were assembled.

Details of the theory were outlined by Prof Steven Benner at the Goldschmidt Meeting in Florence, Italy.

Scientists have long wondered how atoms first came together to make up the three crucial molecular components of living organisms: RNA, DNA and proteins.

The molecules that combined to form genetic material are far more complex than the primordial "pre-biotic" soup of organic (carbon-based) chemicals thought to have existed on the Earth more than three billion years ago, and RNA (ribonucleic acid) is thought to have been the first of them to appear.

Simply adding energy such as heat or light to the more basic organic molecules in the "soup" does not generate RNA. Instead, it generates tar.

RNA needs to be coaxed into shape by "templating" atoms at the crystalline surfaces of minerals.

The minerals most effective at templating RNA would have dissolved in the oceans of the early Earth, but would have been more abundant on Mars, according to Prof Benner.

This could suggest that life started on the Red Planet before being transported to Earth on meteorites, argues Prof Benner, of the Westheimer Institute of Science and Technology in Gainesville, US.

The idea that life originated on Mars and was then transported to our planet has been mooted before. But Prof Benner's ideas add another twist to the theory of a Martian origin for the terrestrial biosphere.
........

Rest of interesting article here, with more on the chemistry:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23872765 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23872765)

Well yeah, you don't watch ancient aliens on HC.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 27, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 27, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
I can't make out what land mass that is.

North America. You can see the Baja penninsula clearly.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: Razgovory on July 27, 2016, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 27, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
I can't make out what land mass that is.

Mexico!
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: Josquius on July 28, 2016, 04:27:12 AM
Quote from: mongers on July 27, 2016, 04:16:17 PM
Doesn't need a new thread so posting in this one.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/me/CoQeZxTVMAACA1z.jpg)


Dark Side Of The Moon ?

That is brilliant.
Nice animation on the nasa site too
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: Hamilcar on July 28, 2016, 04:29:52 AM
This is not a new theory at all.
Title: Re: Timmay Fails Again! - Maybe we're all Extraterrestrials.
Post by: The Brain on July 28, 2016, 08:56:03 AM
Quote from: Hamilcar on July 28, 2016, 04:29:52 AM
This is not a new theory at all.

The 2013 one? Indeed not.