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Title: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:37:16 AM
Oh really, I wonder how they calculate that? :yeahright:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30998907/
QuoteClimate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Think-tank releases findings before talks to discuss global emissions treaty

AP
updated 25 minutes ago

LONDON - Climate-change disasters kill around 300,000 people a year and cause about $125 billion in economic losses, mainly from agriculture, a think-tank led by former U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan reported Friday.

The Global Humanitarian Forum also estimated that 325 million people are seriously affected by climate change — a number it says will double by 2030, as more people are hit by natural disasters or suffer environmental degradation caused by climate change.

"Climate change is a silent human crisis," Annan said in a statement. "Yet it is the greatest emerging humanitarian challenge of our time."

The report suggests that rising sea levels, desertification and changing rainfall patterns are reducing many people's access to safe drinking water and food. This in turn increases diarrhea, malaria and malnutrition.

The report said 99 percent of all people who die due to climate-change related causes live in developing countries, even though those countries generate less than 1 percent of total emissions of greenhouse gases responsible for global warming.

The report used existing data on weather-related disasters, population trends and economic forecasts to draw its conclusions. It was released ahead of climate change talks in Bonn, Germany, next week, that are to lead to a possible new global treaty on cutting greenhouse gas emissions in Copenhagen in December.

Copyright 2009 The Associated Press.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 10:39:39 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:37:16 AM
Oh really, I wonder how they calculate that? :yeahright:

If you are interested find their report and find out.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 29, 2009, 10:39:45 AM
Nonsense.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: derspiess on May 29, 2009, 10:40:53 AM
 :lmfao:
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: PDH on May 29, 2009, 10:42:16 AM
I bet natural causes kills a lot more each year, and nobody worries too much about that...
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Siege on May 29, 2009, 10:42:51 AM
Sure.

Lets commit mass suicide and leave Earth to the animals.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Neil on May 29, 2009, 10:43:09 AM
Since nothing can be done about it, who cares?
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Siege on May 29, 2009, 10:44:04 AM
Quote from: PDH on May 29, 2009, 10:42:16 AM
I bet natural causes kills a lot more each year, and nobody worries too much about that...

What's natural causes?
Old age?
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 29, 2009, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 29, 2009, 10:42:51 AM
Sure.

Lets commit mass suicide and leave Earth to the animals.

I've long suspected your PETA predilections.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Siege on May 29, 2009, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 29, 2009, 10:43:09 AM
Since nothing can be done about it, who cares?

There is something we can do.

We can send you to the South Pole without supplies.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: saskganesh on May 29, 2009, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:37:16 AM
Oh really, I wonder how they calculate that? :yeahright:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30998907/
Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year


actuarians. same way they calculate your insurance premiums.

QuoteThe approach of comparing the trends in weather-related and geophysical disasters is based on an analysis of loss-generating events in the publication Journal of Flood Risk.416 The article states that by "Assuming the socio-economic driving factors behind loss-generating events to be the same for all causes, the difference is likely to be due to climate change". The validity of the approach has beenreviewed with a number of experts. While it is a rough approach, particularly on shorter time series,
it is seen as comparatively strong. Alternative analyses of number of affected, recorded losses ofproperty and insured losses are associated with greater uncertainty than the frequency of events.

http://assets.ghf-ge.org/downloads/methodology.pdf
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Hansmeister on May 29, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
How can this be when the globe has in fact been cooling for the last decade?
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Faeelin on May 29, 2009, 05:17:19 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on May 29, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
How can this be when the globe has in fact been cooling for the last decade?

How can this be when so many of the last ten years have been the warmest on record?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2008/
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: saskganesh on May 29, 2009, 10:31:05 PM
clearly nasa works for the insurance agency conspiracy.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Valmy on May 29, 2009, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on May 29, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
How can this be when the globe has in fact been cooling for the last decade?

Well the report did just say 'climate change'.  Last I checked cooling was also a change in climate.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: alfred russel on May 29, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 29, 2009, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:37:16 AM
Oh really, I wonder how they calculate that? :yeahright:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30998907/
Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year


actuarians. same way they calculate your insurance premiums.

QuoteThe approach of comparing the trends in weather-related and geophysical disasters is based on an analysis of loss-generating events in the publication Journal of Flood Risk.416 The article states that by "Assuming the socio-economic driving factors behind loss-generating events to be the same for all causes, the difference is likely to be due to climate change". The validity of the approach has beenreviewed with a number of experts. While it is a rough approach, particularly on shorter time series,
it is seen as comparatively strong. Alternative analyses of number of affected, recorded losses ofproperty and insured losses are associated with greater uncertainty than the frequency of events.

http://assets.ghf-ge.org/downloads/methodology.pdf

Next year 184 million of us will suffer from diarrhoea because of climate change. :(
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 29, 2009, 11:08:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 29, 2009, 10:42:51 AM
Sure.

Lets commit mass suicide and leave Earth to the animals.


Lead by example.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: alfred russel on May 29, 2009, 11:19:22 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 29, 2009, 11:08:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 29, 2009, 10:42:51 AM
Sure.

Lets commit mass suicide and leave Earth to the animals.


Lead by example.

He may be crazy, but we need the guy. Unless you want to take his place on the front. :p
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Razgovory on May 30, 2009, 03:15:23 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 29, 2009, 11:19:22 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 29, 2009, 11:08:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 29, 2009, 10:42:51 AM
Sure.

Lets commit mass suicide and leave Earth to the animals.


Lead by example.

He may be crazy, but we need the guy. Unless you want to take his place on the front. :p

Do we really?  He's a Calley waiting to go My Lai
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: The Brain on May 30, 2009, 03:58:41 AM
I did it my lai.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Neil on May 30, 2009, 09:48:21 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 29, 2009, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 29, 2009, 10:43:09 AM
Since nothing can be done about it, who cares?

There is something we can do.

We can send you to the South Pole without supplies.
That is unlikely to do any good.  Although I've always wanted to visit Mount Erebus.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Syt on May 30, 2009, 09:51:18 AM
Be sure to go by plane to enjoy the scenery.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.splutterfish.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2Fimages%2F300.jpg&hash=1f0d2f2ffab36ce06e01874b7071963a07671171)
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: Norgy on May 30, 2009, 11:30:55 AM
Some climate change is "normal", and some is definitely man-made, or most likely American-made or Chinese-made or Norwegian-made. I would like to know how many a year I personally kill and how many farmers I put out of business.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: saskganesh on May 30, 2009, 01:00:11 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 29, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 29, 2009, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:37:16 AM
Oh really, I wonder how they calculate that? :yeahright:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30998907/
Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year


actuarians. same way they calculate your insurance premiums.

QuoteThe approach of comparing the trends in weather-related and geophysical disasters is based on an analysis of loss-generating events in the publication Journal of Flood Risk.416 The article states that by "Assuming the socio-economic driving factors behind loss-generating events to be the same for all causes, the difference is likely to be due to climate change". The validity of the approach has beenreviewed with a number of experts. While it is a rough approach, particularly on shorter time series,
it is seen as comparatively strong. Alternative analyses of number of affected, recorded losses ofproperty and insured losses are associated with greater uncertainty than the frequency of events.

http://assets.ghf-ge.org/downloads/methodology.pdf

Next year 184 million of us will suffer from diarrhoea because of climate change. :(

maybe not 184 million, but a lack of clean water do to a ecosytemic collapse would fuck with many intestines.
Title: Re: Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year
Post by: alfred russel on May 30, 2009, 03:14:39 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 30, 2009, 01:00:11 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 29, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 29, 2009, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 29, 2009, 10:37:16 AM
Oh really, I wonder how they calculate that? :yeahright:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30998907/
Climate-change death toll put at 300,000 a year


actuarians. same way they calculate your insurance premiums.

QuoteThe approach of comparing the trends in weather-related and geophysical disasters is based on an analysis of loss-generating events in the publication Journal of Flood Risk.416 The article states that by "Assuming the socio-economic driving factors behind loss-generating events to be the same for all causes, the difference is likely to be due to climate change". The validity of the approach has beenreviewed with a number of experts. While it is a rough approach, particularly on shorter time series,
it is seen as comparatively strong. Alternative analyses of number of affected, recorded losses ofproperty and insured losses are associated with greater uncertainty than the frequency of events.

http://assets.ghf-ge.org/downloads/methodology.pdf

Next year 184 million of us will suffer from diarrhoea because of climate change. :(

maybe not 184 million, but a lack of clean water do to a ecosytemic collapse would fuck with many intestines.

I didn't make that up--page 90 of the report projects 182 million will suffer diarrhoea as a result of climate change, and 94 thousand of those will die (I must have made a mistake when I wrote 184 million).