Player - Nation
Fireblade: France
Shade: Ottomans
Jaron: Portugal
Solmyr: Moscowy
Anatron: Venice
Tamas: Austria
Time:
Sunday, 12pm-4pm Eastern
Alright so, let's get the ball rolling on an MP game. As I have taken the liberty of creating the thread, I claim France. :)
I'd also like to propose Sundays from ~12-4 Eastern as our game time. Thoughts?
Quote from: Fireblade on August 14, 2013, 08:47:44 PM
I'd also like to propose Sundays from ~12-4 as our game time. Thoughts?
Which time zone.
I would love to play. I would be willing to give Ottomans or Portugal a shot.
I can't play during that time, but if the time was changed to something I could play during (after 5pm weekdays, after 7:30 weekends) I would be willing to play. I'd like to play Ottomans.
I'd be interested in Portugal or another colonizer.
For times, I'd prefer weekends or later in the evening on week days. I'm in Mountain time, so I'm not even off work til 8 mountain. Just a heads up.
12-4 EST as in daytime? That should be evening for me, might be able to. If so I'd take Muscovy/Russia. Except if Habs takes Sweden, because I do not want to be between Habs and Jonas. :P Spain should be fine too.
I can't on Sundays 12-4 PM EST, I am at work. Evenings Eastern Times for me only.
Study season again, so I'm out. :( But I look forward to following the thread.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 15, 2013, 05:03:24 AM
12-4 EST as in daytime? That should be evening for me, might be able to. If so I'd take Muscovy/Russia. Except if Habs takes Sweden, because I do not want to be between Habs and Jonas. :P Spain should be fine too.
So that's like 5PM-9PM UK time? Might work. :hmm:
Quote from: DGuller on August 15, 2013, 03:06:48 PM
Study season again, so I'm out. :( But I look forward to following the thread.
I have grad school. But that won't stop me from beating the piss out of everyone here.
I would like to join too.
Then pick a country, niggers. :P
Quote from: Fireblade on August 15, 2013, 07:04:47 PM
Then pick a country, niggers. :P
I`ll might just see what`s left, as I am unsure about committing. if I were sure about committing, I`d probably go with Austria.
I choose Venice.
I have been wondering about the potential issues with players playing minors, I mean, if those issues have been eliminated by the EU4 mechanics or not.
Basically, when having a small human country around, it basically forces others to suspend optimal play to let the small guy get up to speed, at which point of course the once-small guy can really give you trouble.
eg. when Habbaku`s tincy-wincy Prussia was next to my Austria. I chose to collaborate with him for a while but that was a deliberately self-hurting decision. The rational thing to do in that scenario (and during boardgame plays, I make it sort of a matter of being rationall ruthless out of respect for the opponents) is to eliminate the small player from the game before he could become a nemesis of you.
Now, such elimination was entirely possible in EU3. It is much less possible in EU4 due to stuff like overextension and the war force-stopping diplo option. Is it made impossible enough? I am not sure.
Quote from: Tamas on August 16, 2013, 10:38:03 AM
I have been wondering about the potential issues with players playing minors, I mean, if those issues have been eliminated by the EU4 mechanics or not.
Basically, when having a small human country around, it basically forces others to suspend optimal play to let the small guy get up to speed, at which point of course the once-small guy can really give you trouble.
eg. when Habbaku`s tincy-wincy Prussia was next to my Austria. I chose to collaborate with him for a while but that was a deliberately self-hurting decision. The rational thing to do in that scenario (and during boardgame plays, I make it sort of a matter of being rationall ruthless out of respect for the opponents) is to eliminate the small player from the game before he could become a nemesis of you.
Now, such elimination was entirely possible in EU3. It is much less possible in EU4 due to stuff like overextension and the war force-stopping diplo option. Is it made impossible enough? I am not sure.
In EU4 Venice is not a minor power.Its a matter of diplomacy can you elliminate it or not.There are several nations who can benefit from a weak empire... :menace:
In single player I defeated Austria in 3 wars with Venice till 1473.of course human inteligence is more dangerous,but dont look down the diplomatic possibilities of Venice.
Quote from: Anatron on August 16, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
In single player I defeated Austria in 3 wars with Venice till 1473.of course human inteligence is more dangerous,but dont look down the diplomatic possibilities of Venice.
That means you'll defeat Tamas in 2 wars.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 16, 2013, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: Anatron on August 16, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
In single player I defeated Austria in 3 wars with Venice till 1473.of course human inteligence is more dangerous,but dont look down the diplomatic possibilities of Venice.
That means you'll defeat Tamas in 2 wars.
Sounds like I have an ally! :D
When are you looking to start this?
And maybe Tamas is right. It might be best to flesh out the major powers before allowing minors to be taken.
We really should have an England before a Venice or Portugal. If Anatron doesn't want them and no one else comes to claim them, I'll take England.
Quote from: Jaron on August 16, 2013, 01:18:02 PM
When are you looking to start this?
And maybe Tamas is right. It might be best to flesh out the major powers before allowing minors to be taken.
We really should have an England before a Venice or Portugal. If Anatron doesn't want them and no one else comes to claim them, I'll take England.
But we dont have Spain either.
I can take England if no more players joins the game.
True, I'll fill out Spain if no one else joins and wants to take them.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 16, 2013, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: Anatron on August 16, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
In single player I defeated Austria in 3 wars with Venice till 1473.of course human inteligence is more dangerous,but dont look down the diplomatic possibilities of Venice.
That means you'll defeat Tamas in 2 wars.
:XD:
As I said I can take Spain.
Excellent time even for euros. Sadly said yes to slargos sunday game at the same time. If im out early (not unlikely, he boxed me in with veterans) I would love to rejoin the ancient league of languish games.
Dont forget AARs!
Ok, I propose the following list of "mandatory" countries before adventurous minors are allowed: Portugal, Spain, England, France, Austria, Ottomans, Muscovy/Novgorod.
Oh, and I am willing to take a Russian power if needed.
Quote from: Tamas on August 17, 2013, 01:35:33 PM
Oh, and I am willing to take a Russian power if needed.
Really? I figured you'd take one of your "people." Sibir Khanate or something. :rolleyes:
Okay, so we're playing at
noon eastern tomorrow, which I guess is 5pm GMT. I don't know, you fuckers can convert it into whatever barbarian timezone you use. I haven't tried doing MP yet, but from what I understand we can make a public server so we'll see what happens. Server opens about 15 minutes before start time, begins a few minutes later, and whatever happens, happens.
Good luck. I can't force myself to be up for game at 8am on a Sunday.
So I just tested MP by hotjoining a game in progress. Aside from fighting the most fucking ridiculous coalition of all time (and winning), another player OOSing 15 minutes later, and the CTD 30 minutes in, it worked pretty well. :hmm:
Quote from: katmai on August 17, 2013, 09:02:00 PM
Good luck. I can't force myself to be up for game at 8am on a Sunday.
I'd be around but I think I'm going to the beach and then on vacation the next week and then labor day!
Quote from: Fireblade on August 17, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
So I just tested MP by hotjoining a game in progress. Aside from fighting the most fucking ridiculous coalition of all time (and winning), another player OOSing 15 minutes later, and the CTD 30 minutes in, it worked pretty well. :hmm:
:lol:
Also, how does that two player one nation work?
Yeah let's start today, it's not like we need an England or Spain/Muscovy. :rolleyes:
But seriously today is not good for sure, not before 1PM Eastern
Okay I tried MP again and 2 players OOSed within 5 minutes. Including me. :D
Game delayed until a patch comes out.
I would be good with anything but austria HRE gives me a headache :Embarrass: I would prefer Otto Or maybe even Russia
HRE is a fucking disaster. I played 2 games as Austria, both for ~100 years, and if I wanted to fulfill my obligations I would have been at war non-stop.
Quote from: sbr on August 19, 2013, 12:53:01 AM
HRE is a fucking disaster. I played 2 games as Austria, both for ~100 years, and if I wanted to fulfill my obligations I would have been at war non-stop.
Yeah. There aren't many calls due to external invasions, but plenty of "Principality A annexed Principality B" casus bellis. They get annexed faster than you can get them released. In EU3, expanding your nation by force from within the empire was a very slow and pain-staking process. Now you have to blob, or you get to be a part of someone else's blob. The HRE mechanic does not serve the main purpose of real life HRE: keeping Germany an utter clusterfuck.
Quote from: DGuller on August 19, 2013, 01:01:11 AM
Quote from: sbr on August 19, 2013, 12:53:01 AM
HRE is a fucking disaster. I played 2 games as Austria, both for ~100 years, and if I wanted to fulfill my obligations I would have been at war non-stop.
Yeah. There aren't many calls due to external invasions, but plenty of "Principality A annexed Principality B" casus bellis. They get annexed faster than you can get them released. In EU3, expanding your nation by force from within the empire was a very slow and pain-staking process. Now you have to blob, or you get to be a part of someone else's blob. The HRE mechanic does not serve the main purpose of real life HRE: keeping Germany an utter clusterfuck.
It's to easy to get a CB and the fucking OPMs watche each other's MP like hawks striking simply because they are weak. Vicious little bastards.