http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/06-08-2013/125318-atomic_terrorism-0/
QuoteAugust 6, 1945: The age of nuclear terrorism
06.08.2013
Today marks the sixth-eighth anniversary of the atomic terrorist strike against unarmed civilians by the United States of America in the city of Hiroshima, Japan, which along with the atomic strike against Nagasaki days later, was the most blatant violation of the basic principles of conduct during armed conflict.
August 6, 1945. The world's first atomic terrorist strike against a city full of unarmed civilians - the US Air Force dropped a bomb equivalent to 20,000 tonnes of TNT, nicknamed "Little Boy" from a B-29 Superfortress bomber, nicknamed "Enola Gay", after the pilot's mother.
"Little Boy", the nickname spelling out the callous disrespect the United States of America has shown for the its international partners over the years and which isolates it and its FUKUS Axis friends (France-UK-US) and NATO allies from the hearts and minds of the international community today, murdered tens of thousands of civilians - men, women and children alike, of all ages, hospitalized patients, the disabled, the bedridden, the mentally and physically incapacitated, whole families, their homes and their pets. It was the world's first atomic terrorist war crime.
Three days later, as if the first strike were not enough, the USA performed the world's second atomic terrorist act, using a bomb nicknamed "Fat Man", destroying the city of Nagasaki. August 9, around 11.a.m. local time, as children played happily in parks, going down slides, running around chasing balls with their family dogs, their mothers chatting and smiling proudly, the USA was about to unleash what could rightfully be called the worst war crime in the history of humankind. The few survivors screamed in horror as these women and children were literally roasted alive, their skins hanging from their faces as the fortunate ones died on the spot.
For those who are about to waste their time trying to justify these horrendous, monstrous, inhuman acts, as early as January 1945 the Japanese authorities were suing for peace offering these terms:
* Surrender of all Japanese forces and arms, at home, on island possessions, and in occupied countries;
* Occupation of Japan and its possessions by Allied troops under American direction.
* Japanese relinquishment of all territory seized during the war, as well as Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan.
* Regulation of Japanese industry to halt production of any weapons and other tools of war.
* Release of all prisoners of war and internees.
* Surrender of designated war criminals.
These were the terms that were accepted by the Americans after Nagasaki. Conclusion: both bombs and acts of mass murder were totally unnecessary and the whole exercise was nothing more or less than a massive show-off to the Soviet Union, which had destroyed 90% of Hitler's Wehrmacht and which was about to appear as a giant on the world stage.
Even then the cruelty of the United States of America did not end: on August 14, on the eve of the surrender and with Japan virtually defenceless, the USA sent a thousand-bomber raid over Tokyo to firebomb the capital city.
The subsequent massacres of civilians in Vietnam, the terrorism, sabotage, murder attempts and acts of murder across the globe, the subversion, arming of groups to interfere in the affairs of sovereign nations, the arming and support for dictators, fascist murderous repressive regimes, and more recently, covert or even open support for terrorist groups to destabilize governments are the sickening sequel to this dawning of the age of Satan.
Today, the USA and its allies continue to support terrorists in Libya and Syria and today, they issued warnings of attacks against their interests in several points of the globe. One wonders why.
FUKUS? Really? :lol:
Russians are just adorable.
I first read FUKUS as FUGUS and was wondering where the link to the awesome but lethal Japanese fish was.
Harsh toke. :(
The Soviets weren't just disappointed that we couldn't come up with some kind of "rape bomb" to drop on Japan.
The only thing that should be taken from this article is the acronym
FUKUS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGQaH3-LK54)
like the fags adopting the word "Gay" and changing it's meaning.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 07, 2013, 03:36:45 AM
The Soviets weren't just disappointed that we couldn't come up with some kind of "rape bomb" to drop on Japan.
So where the Japanese.
The hypocrisy is astounding. The Russians are OK with shooting people in the head by the thousand but not dropping a bomb on them?
SO SOLLY
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 07, 2013, 07:28:29 AM
The hypocrisy is astounding. The Russians are OK with shooting people in the head by the thousand but not dropping a bomb on them?
The Soviets would quite likely have also been invading Japan if the bomb wasn't dropped, losing thousands of their soldiers plus the killing of many thousands of Japanese soldiers and civilians. But I think part of their annoyance is that they weren't able to occupy a part of Japan and turn the area into another Communist Totalitarian Paradise under their boot heel control.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 07, 2013, 03:36:45 AM
The Soviets weren't just disappointed that we couldn't come up with some kind of "rape bomb" to drop on Japan.
:lol:
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
SO SOLLY
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Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
SO SOLLY
Solly? As in the nickname for the Solarian Alliance?
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
SO SOLLY
Solly? As in the nickname for the Solarian Alliance?
Japanese have trouble with the r sound.
WHY AM I EXPLAINING THIS JOKE?
So, is there any truth to that claim that Japan was offering surrender terms before the nuking?
This is not in accordance of what little I know about the Pacific Front.
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:18:48 PM
So, is there any truth to that claim that Japan was offering surrender terms before the nuking?
This is not in accordance of what little I know about the Pacific Front.
They may have been offering terms, which is disputed. BUt the Axis Powers were required to offer unconditional surrender.
Olympic and Cornet was going to be such a clusterfuck.
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:18:48 PM
So, is there any truth to that claim that Japan was offering surrender terms before the nuking?
This is not in accordance of what little I know about the Pacific Front.
There is some truth to it. There was a peace faction in the Japanese government. They contacted the Soviets and asked them to forward a surrender proposal, keeping the emperor. IIRC the Soviets did not forward the message but Truman was aware of it anyway.
However to say that
Japan was offering surrender on those terms is a stretch. The war faction in the government was intent on fighting to the last man, woman, and bullet. The discussions were kept secret from the war faction. The war faction had effective veto over cabinet decisions because of the provision in the Japanese constitution that only a serving officer could sit in the cabinet as Army and Navy minister.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 07, 2013, 05:20:37 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:18:48 PM
So, is there any truth to that claim that Japan was offering surrender terms before the nuking?
This is not in accordance of what little I know about the Pacific Front.
They may have been offering terms, which is disputed. BUt the Axis Powers were required to offer unconditional surrender.
Which was a key Soviet demand and ultimately the major concession (apart from not insisting that stalin actually keep his comittments) that stalin gained from the west at the conferances.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
SO SOLLY
Solly? As in the nickname for the Solarian Alliance?
Japanese have trouble with the r sound.
WHY AM I EXPLAINING THIS JOKE?
To be honest, the Japanese do not have a problem with the "r" sound. SayonRa, SamuRai, SakuRa, Ramen, HiRoshima, NaRa, HaRa KiRi. They don't really have a problem with the "l" sound either. They just have one sound which in western languages is covered by two apparent separate sounds. The sound is closer to "r" than it is to "l".
The trope is that the CHINESE can't say "r". If you are going to use a racist asian stereotype, use the correct racist asian stereotype.
The actual japanese mis-pronounciation that completely confused me was "boating" vs "voting". I was invited to come along and asked if the weather wasn't a bit ominous to go boating. They looked at me strangely, I was a good sport and went along, bringing my rain-coat much to everybody's amazement. 15 minutes later we were back and I had seen that voting in japan is just as boring as voting everywhere else.
Don't be that guy.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:00:53 PM
Don't be that guy.
I'm gonna be the guy as long as you can't tell the difference between japan and china... wars have (and possibly will again) be fought of that specific topic...
I'm done.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 07, 2013, 05:32:01 PM
There is some truth to it. There was a peace faction in the Japanese government. They contacted the Soviets and asked them to forward a surrender proposal, keeping the emperor. IIRC the Soviets did not forward the message but Truman was aware of it anyway.
However to say that Japan was offering surrender on those terms is a stretch. The war faction in the government was intent on fighting to the last man, woman, and bullet. The discussions were kept secret from the war faction. The war faction had effective veto over cabinet decisions because of the provision in the Japanese constitution that only a serving officer could sit in the cabinet as Army and Navy minister.
Not quite. There were some individual Japanese in the cabinet who hoped that th Soviets would serve as an intermediary with the US, but the Soviets refused to have diplomatic dealings with private individuals, and insisted that the Japanese engage in foreign policy through their government.
The War Faction in the government (which was pretty much the entire government, barring the couple of guys hoping the Soviets were nice people) didn't insist on fighting to the last man, woman, and child. They did believe, however, that they would defeat the first American landing in Japan, and would then be in a position to demand the retention of the Imperial System as a condition of a Japanese surrender.
Read the book
Downfall: The End of the Imperial Japanese Empire (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0141001461 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0141001461) for a well-researched and compelling account of all these issues and the others surrounding the end of that war and in particular the decision to drop The Bomb. It convinced me that using the bomb was the only humanitarian choice the US had.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:26:46 PM
Olympic and Cornet was going to be such a clusterfuck.
That's no joke. Continued firebombings; continued external and internal blockade; obviously ground warfare, and in an environment where it would have been difficult to distinguish between civilian and soldier; probably large numbers of suicides as experienced on Okinawa; and of course there was our intent to use chemical weapons.
Without surrendering prior to Olympic--which is possible, but not certain--I'm convinced way more people would have died.
Yeah. And the US didn't have the option to just sit back and starve the Japanese out of existence. The American people were tired of the war, and the British even more so.
I read that the US military's estimates for how many troops Japan had on Kyushu ranged in the 250,000 area, and the wildest high estimates they had were around 350,000. The actual number was almost a million. :huh:
Even with seven or eight nukes at your disposal, that would have made Okinawa look like a tennis match.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 08, 2013, 11:14:25 AM
I read that the US military's estimates for how many troops Japan had on Kyushu ranged in the 250,000 area, and the wildest high estimates they had were around 350,000. The actual number was almost a million. :huh:
Even with seven or eight nukes at your disposal, that would have made Okinawa look like a tennis match.
Right now there is a video playing in my head cutting from a scene where one of these tennis broads makes orgasm sounds when striking the tennis ball cutting to a nuclear blast cutting back to the tennis broad orgasming again. I sort of expect it to keep playing on a loop for a while to come....
I had to read that a couple times before I realized you weren't thinking about "head cutting" :lol:
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
SO SOLLY
Solly? As in the nickname for the Solarian Alliance?
Japanese have trouble with the r sound.
WHY AM I EXPLAINING THIS JOKE?
Do you know what's the Solarian Alliance?
Quote from: Siege on August 08, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
SO SOLLY
Solly? As in the nickname for the Solarian Alliance?
Japanese have trouble with the r sound.
WHY AM I EXPLAINING THIS JOKE?
Do you know what's the Solarian Alliance?
I don't read Honor Harrington. I don't care about her stupid treecat.
Fuck u, monkeybutt.
Treecats are the most loving alien race ever created.
Besides, I refuse to speak with people that changed their name.\
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 12:18:51 PM
Fuck u, monkeybutt.
Treecats are the most loving alien race ever created.
Besides, I refuse to speak with people that changed their name.\
Whatever you say Seigebreaker.
Quote from: Siege on August 08, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
SO SOLLY
Solly? As in the nickname for the Solarian Alliance?
Japanese have trouble with the r sound.
WHY AM I EXPLAINING THIS JOKE?
Do you know what's the Solarian Alliance?
It's something from an obscure and unfinished Freespace 2 mod according to google search results, apparently. :hmm:
Did you mean the Solarian League?
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 12:18:51 PM
Fuck u, monkeybutt.
Treecats are the most loving alien race ever created.
Besides, I refuse to speak with people that changed their name.\
David Weber eats donkey shit.
Quote from: Agelastus on August 09, 2013, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 08, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 07, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
SO SOLLY
Solly? As in the nickname for the Solarian Alliance?
Japanese have trouble with the r sound.
WHY AM I EXPLAINING THIS JOKE?
Do you know what's the Solarian Alliance?
It's something from an obscure and unfinished Freespace 2 mod according to google search results, apparently. :hmm:
Did you mean the Solarian League?
:bleeding: You got me bad!
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 09, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 12:18:51 PM
Fuck u, monkeybutt.
Treecats are the most loving alien race ever created.
Besides, I refuse to speak with people that changed their name.\
David Weber eats donkey shit.
You didn't like Out of The Dark?
Alien invasions of Earth fascinates me, because of the "Columbus Factor".
Never read it. I don't waste my time with David Weber bloat.
Go and eat a dick.
You first.
Ok. Done.
Now is your turn.
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
Fukus. Fukus all.
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 06:45:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 09, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 12:18:51 PM
Fuck u, monkeybutt.
Treecats are the most loving alien race ever created.
Besides, I refuse to speak with people that changed their name.\
David Weber eats donkey shit.
You didn't like Out of The Dark?
Alien invasions of Earth fascinates me, because of the "Columbus Factor".
It was crap.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 09, 2013, 07:06:15 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 07:02:01 PM
Ok. Done.
Now is your turn.
Pass.
You fell for the simplest 7th grade trap in the book, Siegy. You ate dick first. Lulz.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2013, 07:59:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 09, 2013, 07:06:15 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 07:02:01 PM
Ok. Done.
Now is your turn.
Pass.
You fell for the simplest 7th grade trap in the book, Siegy. You ate dick first. Lulz.
Thank God Iraqi insurgents didn't have the presence of mind to tell Siege his shoes were untied, otherwise he wouldn't be here to talk to us today.
You know guys, I got a hunch the Seebrew didn't actually give a dude a smoker.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 09, 2013, 07:56:19 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 06:45:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 09, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2013, 12:18:51 PM
Fuck u, monkeybutt.
Treecats are the most loving alien race ever created.
Besides, I refuse to speak with people that changed their name.\
David Weber eats donkey shit.
You didn't like Out of The Dark?
Alien invasions of Earth fascinates me, because of the "Columbus Factor".
It was crap.
Agreed; it was a very disappointing book with a dubious ending.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2013, 02:01:51 AM
You know guys, I got a hunch the Seebrew didn't actually give a dude a smoker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_LHyx2odc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_LHyx2odc)
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2013, 02:01:51 AM
You know guys, I got a hunch the Seebrew didn't actually give a dude a smoker.
:perv:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2013, 02:01:51 AM
You know guys, I got a hunch the Seebrew didn't actually give a dude a smoker.
There's a fine line between two Hard Mike's Lemonades and four for Siegy when it comes to something like that.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 10, 2013, 04:58:58 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2013, 02:01:51 AM
You know guys, I got a hunch the Seebrew didn't actually give a dude a smoker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_LHyx2odc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_LHyx2odc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQqiuynMwCQ
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 10, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2013, 02:01:51 AM
You know guys, I got a hunch the Seebrew didn't actually give a dude a smoker.
There's a fine line between two Hard Mike's Lemonades and four for Siegy when it comes to something like that.
I don't know what's hard lemonade but I do love Lemonade Mouth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ4FUUSTm0