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'Besieged by accusations of sexual harassment, Mayor Bob Filner of San Diego announced that he would enter two weeks of what he described as intensive behavior therapy, but he refused to bow to a flood of demands that he step aside.
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Mr. Filner indicated that he would keep a hand in City Hall even from the seclusion of his treatment program, saying he planned to be briefed every morning and every evening on what was taking place there. “I must become a better person,” he said.

Mr. Filner did not name the treatment facility or explain who would be paying for his stay there.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/27/us/san-diego-mayor-facing-charges-of-harassment-says-he-will-enter-therapy.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/27/us/san-diego-mayor-facing-charges-of-harassment-says-he-will-enter-therapy.html)


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Lame.

No I don't.

Guessing it is a resort and the taxpayers will foot the bill.

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 26, 2013, 08:42:12 PM
Guessing it is a resort and the taxpayers will foot the bill.

With hot women staff? :yeah:

Silly Bob, met him like 20+ years ago during one of his congressional races.

Quote from: katmai on July 26, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
Silly Bob, met him like 20+ years ago during one of his congressional races.

Confess to the media that he fondled you.

Quote from: Phillip V on July 26, 2013, 08:47:52 PM

Quote from: katmai on July 26, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
Silly Bob, met him like 20+ years ago during one of his congressional races.

Confess to the media that he fondled you.

Poor Phil, nowhere near as funny as he thinks he is. :console:

I'm sensing avoidance.

Quote from: garbon on July 26, 2013, 09:02:59 PM
I'm sensing avoidance.

Well as all the people complaining are women, I'm not hurt or shocked he didn't hit on me. :P

The not hurt part is interesting. Let's hear more about that. :hmm:

I don't like guys.

Hilarious.  I get my sexual harrassing urges out of my system at home by harrassing my wife all the time.  She doesn't seem to mind.

I get my sexual harassment urges out by not having them in the first place. :mellow:

Quote from: katmai on July 26, 2013, 09:14:24 PM
I don't like guys.

It's not about love, katmai, it's about power.  Did he touch you in your No Spots?   Show us on the doll.  It's OK.

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Quote from: garbon on July 26, 2013, 09:32:07 PM
I get my sexual harassment urges out by not having them in the first place. :mellow:

One would think that would be easy enough to accomplish, but hey.

Therapy?

Unlike sexting and cheating on your wife sexual harassment is illegal. The correct response is not treatment, it is a trial. Based on the content of the accusation (that he grabbed, fondled and forced his toung into a womans mouth) that is not sexual harassment that is sexual assault.

Sexual harrassment and you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY)

Quote from: Viking on July 27, 2013, 02:55:20 AM
Unlike sexting and cheating on your wife sexual harassment is illegal. The correct response is not treatment, it is a trial. Based on the content of the accusation (that he grabbed, fondled and forced his toung into a womans mouth) that is not sexual harassment that is sexual assault.

Yeah, and he's retarded if he thinks he's fooling anyone with this 'therapy' thing.

Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2013, 07:27:37 AM

Quote from: Viking on July 27, 2013, 02:55:20 AM
Unlike sexting and cheating on your wife sexual harassment is illegal. The correct response is not treatment, it is a trial. Based on the content of the accusation (that he grabbed, fondled and forced his toung into a womans mouth) that is not sexual harassment that is sexual assault.

Yeah, and he's retarded if he thinks he's fooling anyone with this 'therapy' thing.

The Church got away with it for decades.

For some reason, people give the Church a lot more rope with which to hang itself tho. :sleep:

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 27, 2013, 07:36:51 AM

Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2013, 07:27:37 AM
Yeah, and he's retarded if he thinks he's fooling anyone with this 'therapy' thing.

The Church got away with it for decades.

That wasn't therapy.  That was aiding and abetting.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 27, 2013, 12:01:33 AM

Quote from: katmai on July 26, 2013, 09:14:24 PM
I don't like guys.

It's not about love, katmai, it's about power.  Did he touch you in your No Spots?   Show us on the doll.  It's OK.

(https://www.teach-a-bodies.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/9681%20-%20naked_0.jpg?itok=uW1_eik2)

Freddy Mercury and Princess Leia?

Quote from: Legbiter on July 27, 2013, 05:39:02 AM
Sexual harrassment and you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymIAAts6U-4

Quote from: derspiess on July 26, 2013, 09:28:21 PM
Hilarious.  I get my sexual harrassing urges out of my system at home by harrassing my wife all the time.  She doesn't seem to mind.

:D

Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2013, 07:27:37 AM

Quote from: Viking on July 27, 2013, 02:55:20 AM
Unlike sexting and cheating on your wife sexual harassment is illegal. The correct response is not treatment, it is a trial. Based on the content of the accusation (that he grabbed, fondled and forced his toung into a womans mouth) that is not sexual harassment that is sexual assault.

Yeah, and he's retarded if he thinks he's fooling anyone with this 'therapy' thing.

He's obviously staging for his Wiener-style comeback. Why must these people be so hell-bent on making politics a career? Hopefully that Todd Akin or Aker or whatever his name is will have the common decency to never make us see him back in the spotlight.

In Weiner's case I get it, because the guy is not qualified to do anything else.  Filner was a college professor before he got into politics IIRC, which probably puts him in just as bad a position since a college won't hire a known sexual harasser.

Quote from: Caliga on July 29, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
In Weiner's case I get it, because the guy is not qualified to do anything else.  Filner was a college professor before he got into politics IIRC, which probably puts him in just as bad a position since a college won't hire a known sexual harasser.

I suspect Weiner just wants to spend all that campaign cash he built up.  You're right that he's not qualified to do much else, but there is still money to be made with his "political consulting" gig.

IIRC, Weiner earned ~$1 million in the year or two after he resigned doing political consulting/lobbying.

Quote from: Viking on July 27, 2013, 02:55:20 AM
Unlike sexting and cheating on your wife sexual harassment is illegal. The correct response is not treatment, it is a trial. Based on the content of the accusation (that he grabbed, fondled and forced his toung into a womans mouth) that is not sexual harassment that is sexual assault.

Not necessarily.  Sexual harassment can cover a wide variety of activity, some of which might constitute sexual assault, some of which may not.

Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2013, 04:36:53 PM

Quote from: Viking on July 27, 2013, 02:55:20 AM
Unlike sexting and cheating on your wife sexual harassment is illegal. The correct response is not treatment, it is a trial. Based on the content of the accusation (that he grabbed, fondled and forced his toung into a womans mouth) that is not sexual harassment that is sexual assault.

Not necessarily.  Sexual harassment can cover a wide variety of activity, some of which might constitute sexual assault, some of which may not.

He's a thief, he's guilty of stealing 100 dollars, he's also guilty of stealing 99 dollars, he's also guilty of stealing 98 dollars 57 cents!!!!1111oneoneoneoen

Not all lawyers are smart or well informed. However, less scrupulous lawyers might refer to a trivial less relevant issue as a red herring, smart less scrupulous lawyers might actually might actually respond using the red herring as a reference rather than the issue raised.

Can/may/some. Yes the set of Sexual Harassment and the set of Sexual Assault do overlap at some point. The act of grabbing a woman fondling her breasts and sticking his toung down her throught was sexual assualt. I'll concede that it might have been sexual harassment as well if you concede that you were trying to obfuscate by bringing up this irrelevant technicality.


... this is why people hate lawyers...

San Diego Mayor Under Siege While City Problems Loom

'SAN DIEGO—The eighth-largest city in the country is bracing for federal defense cuts and grappling with an estimated $1 billion in backlogged infrastructure projects. But the city's attention is focused on the escalating furor around its mayor, Bob Filner, who is ignoring calls for his resignation after eight women accused him publicly of sexual harassment.

Mr. Filner, a 70-year-old Democrat, has admitted to "inexcusable" behavior, but he has said that it didn't amount to sexual harassment.
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Most of the nine-member City Council wants Mr. Filner out, and this week voted against his request that the city pay to defend him in a sexual-harassment suit. Mr. Filner argues the city should pay because he never received sexual-harassment training. The City Council also voted to sue the mayor to recover any money the city may be forced to pay if it is held liable in a sex-harassment suit.'

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323997004578640554151386948.html

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He completed his 'intensive therapy' a week early.  Yay!

...and he's about to resign, apparently.  Guess the therapy didn't take. :(

Therapy for sexual harassment. Yeah, but I'd think for him, given his many infractions and women he's harassed, that his therapy would be some time in jail.   :hmm:

I like him demanding the city pay his legal problems.  "Nobody told me not to grope staffers, so it's not really my fault."

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 22, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
I like him demanding the city pay his legal problems.  "Nobody told me not to grope staffers, so it's not really my fault."

That is pretty ballsy.

Have you guys seen pics of some of the women accusing him of harassment? :hmm:

Have you seen him??

Quote from: Caliga on July 29, 2013, 12:08:52 PM
In Weiner's case I get it, because the guy is not qualified to do anything else.  Filner was a college professor before he got into politics IIRC, which probably puts him in just as bad a position since a college won't hire a known sexual harasser.

The good news is they won't fire one, either.

Quote from: derspiess on August 22, 2013, 01:07:43 PM

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 22, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
I like him demanding the city pay his legal problems.  "Nobody told me not to grope staffers, so it's not really my fault."

That is pretty ballsy.

Not really.  He was a city employee, alleged to have done misdeeds while doing city business.  It's pretty standard to cover their legal fees in those kinds of situations.

Quote from: Barrister on August 22, 2013, 02:11:30 PM
Not really.  He was a city employee, alleged to have done misdeeds while doing city business.  It's pretty standard to cover their legal fees in those kinds of situations.

I'm not sure sexual harassment qualifies, however. I mean, if he was accused of shaking down some business owners or altering bids, that'd be one thing. That's doing city business. Sexual harassment? Yeah, not so much.

Quote from: Barrister on August 22, 2013, 02:11:30 PM

Quote from: derspiess on August 22, 2013, 01:07:43 PM

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 22, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
I like him demanding the city pay his legal problems.  "Nobody told me not to grope staffers, so it's not really my fault."

That is pretty ballsy.

Not really.  He was a city employee, alleged to have done misdeeds while doing city business.  It's pretty standard to cover their legal fees in those kinds of situations.

Not that.  I meant the fact that he's essentially claiming that he sexually harassed because he hadn't been given training on avoiding sexual harassment.

Quote from: derspiess on August 23, 2013, 11:53:52 AM

Quote from: Barrister on August 22, 2013, 02:11:30 PM

Quote from: derspiess on August 22, 2013, 01:07:43 PM

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 22, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
I like him demanding the city pay his legal problems.  "Nobody told me not to grope staffers, so it's not really my fault."

That is pretty ballsy.

Not really.  He was a city employee, alleged to have done misdeeds while doing city business.  It's pretty standard to cover their legal fees in those kinds of situations.

Not that.  I meant the fact that he's essentially claiming that he sexually harassed because he hadn't been given training on avoiding sexual harassment.

I believe him, just like I believe all my little 74 Hoover Crips when they tell the judge they didn't know how to not shoot at people who disagreed with them.  However, since they're such fucking horrible shots, I don't think the argument carries a lot of water.

Quote from: derspiess on August 22, 2013, 01:57:07 PM
Have you seen him??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY