A fascinating little video on how the dialect that Shakespeare wrote in sounded, it sounds Irish to my ears :hmm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s
Thanks for the link. :)
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 24, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
A fascinating little video on how the dialect that Shakespeare wrote in sounded, it sounds Irish to my ears :hmm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s
Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my life, you Nard. :P
How do they know? They got a recording?
Quote from: 11B4V on July 25, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 24, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
A fascinating little video on how the dialect that Shakespeare wrote in sounded, it sounds Irish to my ears :hmm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s
Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my life, you Nard. :P
How do they know? They got a recording?
There's usually some sort of forensic extrapolation you can use, e.g. what rhythm and rhymes they use in poems. Also, changes in spelling can provide a hint.
And I hope you're not one of the people who think "Ye Olde" is pronounced "Yee Olday"!
the "y" of Ye Olde is actually an "olde" english variant of "þ" which has a hard "th" sound like "think" or "bath" but not the soft "th" of "this" or "that".
So "ye olde" is actually pronounced "the old" with the e silent.
Correct. When printing presses came around, it was just easier to use "y" instead of the special letter because they were so close.
I've managed to impress an Icelandic colleague, because I pronounced her name properly with þ at the beginning instead of T like most Germans would. :smarty:
Quote from: 11B4V on July 25, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 24, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
A fascinating little video on how the dialect that Shakespeare wrote in sounded, it sounds Irish to my ears :hmm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s
Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my life, you Nard. :P
How do they know? They got a recording?
Old dude explained it in detail. Pay attention!
It's "original pronunciation" to an extent, but which regional accent of the time do they pick?
Quote from: Viking on July 25, 2013, 03:01:36 AM
the "y" of Ye Olde is actually an "olde" english variant of "þ" which has a hard "th" sound like "think" or "bath" but not the soft "th" of "this" or "that".
So "ye olde" is actually pronounced "the old" with the e silent.
Not quite. The e isn't silent. It's a very soft lilt at the end of old. Kind of an OLD-eh, though you barely hear the "eh" at the end.
I've a friend who has her Masters' Degree in English Literature, with a concentration in Middle English poetry. She spent a good portion of her studies working on how Middle English was pronounced and how it affected the way poetry was written. I love listening to her recite Gawain and the Green Knight in the original Middle English. :wub:
The scene in PCU with the Sanskrit major just flashed in my mind.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 25, 2013, 07:52:02 AM
The scene in PCU with the Sanskrit major just flashed in my mind.
Chick I went to high school learned Sanskrit. In addition to Latin and Greek and some other languages. She later found out that the Nepal is inhabited with assholes.
Why couldn't he just write normally, like we do today?
Quote from: DGuller on July 25, 2013, 08:44:46 AM
Why couldn't he just write normally, like we do today?
He must have been deaf and dumb like Hellen Keller. It really makes his achievements all the more impressive.
Shakespeare is over-rated. His stuff is just a mass of cliches.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 25, 2013, 04:17:28 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on July 25, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 24, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
A fascinating little video on how the dialect that Shakespeare wrote in sounded, it sounds Irish to my ears :hmm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s
Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my life, you Nard. :P
How do they know? They got a recording?
Old dude explained it in detail. Pay attention!
kind of tuned him out after 30 secs.
Quote from: Viking on July 25, 2013, 03:01:36 AM
the "y" of Ye Olde is actually an "olde" english variant of "þ" which has a hard "th" sound like "think" or "bath" but not the soft "th" of "this" or "that".
So "ye olde" is actually pronounced "the old" with the e silent.
You mean like in Northern?
It's like a mix of Ray Winstone, Danish, Scottish and Australian.