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Title: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on May 28, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpnWgCVfAxw&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpnWgCVfAxw&feature=channel)

Anti-war songs don't get much better than this.
It is really great.




Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 07:07:54 PM
It must be really great if you like it.
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 28, 2009, 07:16:27 PM
The best anti-war song is War Pigs.
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Scipio on May 28, 2009, 07:17:17 PM
No, it's Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town.
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on May 28, 2009, 07:20:21 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 07:07:54 PM
It must be really great if you like it.

Well, it is anti-war.

When it comes to art, most great pieces are anti-war.
War is not something to support for the sake of it.
You support war when it is strictly necesary, and only when is so.
Every civilized person in this world should be absolutely anti-war.

Now, that video ridiculize some things, and focus on when things that shouldn't happen happens, and totally forget all the bad people that have to be taken out or else we pay the price.

But it is a great anti-war piece.

I hate rabid lefty anti-war, the people that oppouse war because of "principle", like if the enemy would just go away if we quit fighting, but I enjoy deep anti-war, because deep down inside, we all hate war.


Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on May 28, 2009, 07:23:47 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 28, 2009, 07:16:27 PM
The best anti-war song is War Pigs.

If I remember correctly, War Pigs blame war on the generals, instead of the politicians.
War Pigs is a product of the Cold War. It does not seem relevant in today's world, when 19 islamotards can plung the world into chaos.


Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Grey Fox on May 28, 2009, 07:55:05 PM
I like Rise Against, I've seen RA in basements with 20 other people, I've seen Rise Against in Arenas with 12 000 other people.
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Syt on May 29, 2009, 12:24:34 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 28, 2009, 07:23:47 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 28, 2009, 07:16:27 PM
The best anti-war song is War Pigs.

If I remember correctly, War Pigs blame war on the generals, instead of the politicians.

In that case you should like System of a Down's B.Y.O.B.
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on June 03, 2009, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 29, 2009, 12:24:34 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 28, 2009, 07:23:47 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 28, 2009, 07:16:27 PM
The best anti-war song is War Pigs.

If I remember correctly, War Pigs blame war on the generals, instead of the politicians.

In that case you should like System of a Down's B.Y.O.B.

What's the meaning of BYOB?

Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Weatherman on June 04, 2009, 12:29:51 AM
Quote from: Siege on June 03, 2009, 11:44:45 PM

What's the meaning of BYOB?

Bring your own beer.
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on June 04, 2009, 12:55:45 AM
The lyrics.



He said "Son, have you seen the world?
Well, what would you say if I said that you could?
Just carry this gun and you'll even get paid."
I said "That sounds pretty good."

Black leather boots
Spit-shined so bright
They cut off my hair but it looked alright
We marched and we sang
We all became friends
As we learned how to fight

A hero of war
Yeah that's what I'll be
And when I come home
They'll be damn proud of me
I'll carry this flag
To the grave if I must
Because it's a flag that I love
And a flag that I trust

I kicked in the door
I yelled my commands
The children, they cried
But I got my man
We took him away
A bag over his face
From his family and his friends

They took off his clothes
They pissed in his hands
I told them to stop
But then I joined in
We beat him with guns
And batons not just once
But again and again

A hero of war
Yeah that's what I'll be
And when I come home
They'll be damn proud of me
I'll carry this flag
To the grave if I must
Because it's a flag that I love
And a flag that I trust

She walked through bullets and haze
I asked her to stop
I begged her to stay
But she pressed on
So I lifted my gun
And I fired away

The shells jumped through the smoke
And into the sand
That the blood now had soaked
She collapsed with a flag in her hand
A flag white as snow

A hero of war
Is that what they see
Just medals and scars
So damn proud of me
And I brought home that flag
Now it gathers dust
But it's a flag that I love
It's the only thing I trust

He said, "Son, have you seen the world?
Well what would you say, if I said that you could?"
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on June 04, 2009, 12:57:41 AM
Why the fuck the highlight black is not working?

Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on June 04, 2009, 12:59:08 AM
A hero of war
Is that what they see
Just medals and scars
So damn proud of me
And I brought home that flag
Now it gathers dust
But it's a flag that I love
It's the only thing I trust
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on June 04, 2009, 12:59:37 AM
It doesnt fucking work.

New languish sucks.

Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Syt on June 04, 2009, 01:02:29 AM
QuoteWHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR!
Barbarisms by Barbaras
With pointed heels.
Victorious, victories kneel.
For brand new spankin' deals.
Marching forward hypocritic
And hypnotic computers.
You depend on our protection,

Yet you feed us lies from the table cloth.
La la la la la la la la la,
Everybody's going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine.

Kneeling roses disappearing,
Into Moses' dry mouth,
Breaking into Fort Knox,
Stealing our intentions,
Hangars sitting dripped in oil,
Crying FREEDOM!

Handed to obsoletion,
Still you feed us lies from the table cloth.
La la la la la la la la la,
Everybody's going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine.
Everybody's going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine.

Blast off, it's party time,
And we don't live in a fascist nation,
Blast off, it's party time,
And where the fuck are you?
Where the fuck are you?
Where the fuck are you?

Why don't presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why don't presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor? [X4]

Kneeling roses disappearing,
Into Moses' dry mouth,
Breaking into Fort Knox,
Stealing our intentions,
Hangars sitting dripped in oil,
Crying FREEDOM!

Handed to obsoletion,
Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth.
La la la la la la la la la,
Everybody's going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine.
Everybody's going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine

Where the fuck are you!
Where the fuck are you!

Why don't presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why don't presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor? [X3]
Why, do, they always send the poor [X3]
They only send the poor [x2]
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on June 04, 2009, 01:05:56 AM
I can name quite a few Presidents and Prime Ministers that fought the wars when they were young.

Wars are old men making decisions and young men dying.
That's the way it will always be.

Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Siege on June 04, 2009, 01:07:01 AM
And sending the poor?

Please. The moment you join the US Army you become middle class.

Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Camerus on June 04, 2009, 07:18:54 AM
Although the lyrics appear to be utterly unconnected with the content of the video, Audioslave's video for Doesn't Remind Me was a pretty good piece of anti-war propaganda.
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Syt on June 04, 2009, 10:08:26 AM
QuoteTake a shot at glory on the hills of Passiondale
Prepare the artillery to blow away the troops on the other side

Traumatized, entrenched for life
Cannons point at the enemy
Under siege for years and years
We're swept away from the earth

A serenade in lead
For all those who died
Wartime atrocities
No sign of life

No escape from Passiondale

Grenades rain down on our fortress day and night
My brain is numb
I lost all my friends
Will it ever stop
There's no escape, it seems too late
For god and country, we try to endure this living hell

Take a shot at glory on the hills of Passiondale
Prepare the artillery to blow away the troops on the other side

A serenade in lead
For all those who died
Wartime atrocities
No sign of life
Send "Passiondale" Ringtone to your Cell
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: The Brain on June 04, 2009, 10:19:58 AM
Manowar have many nice anti-war songs. Eg Hatred:

QuoteI taste your blood as it showers from my blade
I eat your heart, from evil it was made
With heart filled hatred black blood runs through my veins.
I take your powers to the ancient ones who reign
I conquer evil, let evil know my name
Come forth ye wicked, know the gruesome pain
I am the omen, the one that cannot die
I am the flame, hatred burns inside.
My strength is hatred, torment and pain, HATRED, HATRED
With heart filled hatred black blood runs through my veins.
I crush your bones, I kill your face
I rip your flesh, I end the chase
You meet with terror, you draw the ace
I rule the world the rats that race.
My strength is hatred, torment and pain, HATRED, HATRED
With heart filled hatred black blood runs through my veins.
HATRED
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: The Brain on June 04, 2009, 10:20:52 AM
Hey Syt, love the final verse there.
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Syt on June 04, 2009, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 04, 2009, 10:20:52 AM
Hey Syt, love the final verse there.

:lol: Lyrics sites suck
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: Syt on June 04, 2009, 10:37:53 AM
If we're going Manowar, though, what about Dark avenger:
QuoteBurning, death, destruction
Raping the daughters and wives
In blood I take my payment
In full with their lives
No one can escape me
On Black Death I ride
When kissed by the sword of Vengeance
Your head lays there by your side
I take the lives of all that I once knew
The torn flesh of a slow death waits for you

[Chorus:]
Burning, death, destruction
Raping the daughters and wives
In blood I take my payment
In full with their lives
I spare not land or servants
My wake is smoke and flame
I take their wives and daughters
They stand there watching, watching
Hoping to get my life
But when I'm through they know that they must pay

(The narrative part was spoken by Orson Welles, btw)

Or maybe Hail and Kill
QuoteBrothers I am calling from the valley of the kings
With nothing to atone
A dark march lies ahead, together we will ride
Like thunder from the sky
May your sword stay wet like a young girl in her prime
Hold your hammers high

Blood and death are waiting like a raven in the sky
I was born to die
Hear me while I live
As I look into your eyes
None shall hear a lie
Power and dominion are taken by the will
By divine right hail and kill

Hail, Hail, Hail, Hail and Kill, Hail and Kill
Hail, Hail, Hail, Hail and Kill, Hail and Kill

My father was a wolf
I'm a kinsman of the slain
Sworn to rise again
I will bring salvation, punishment and pain
The hammer of hate is our faith
Power and dominion are taken by the will
By divine right hail and kill
Hail, Hail, Hail, Hail and Kill, Hail and Kill
Hail, Hail, Hail, Hail and Kill, Hail and Kill

Rip their flesh
Burn their hearts
Stab them in the eyes
Rape their women as they cry
Kill their servants
Burn their homes
Till there's no blood left to spill
Hail and Kill
Power and dominion are taken by the will
By divine right hail and kill

Hail, Hail, Hail, Hail and Kill, Hail and Kill

:P
Title: Re: Video: Rise Against - Hero Of War
Post by: The Brain on June 04, 2009, 11:18:52 AM
 :rolleyes: Those are not anti-war songs.