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Poll
Question: What's the best film by the best Hollywood director of all time?
Option 1: Mean Streets votes: 0
Option 2: Taxi Driver votes: 6
Option 3: Raging Bull votes: 4
Option 4: The Color of Money votes: 1
Option 5: Goodefellas votes: 17
Option 6: Cape Fear votes: 0
Option 7: Casino votes: 4
Option 8: Gangs of New York votes: 2
Option 9: The Aviator votes: 1
Option 10: The Departed votes: 4
Option 11: Shutter Island votes: 0
Option 12: Other votes: 0
Title: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
I think I got all of his most critically-acclaimed stuff in there, but put 'Other' in the poll in case I missed something or someone prefers one of his other films for some reason.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 22, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
Raging Bull.  End of discussion, lock the thread.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: katmai on July 22, 2013, 08:50:58 PM
Toss up between Raging and Goodfellas.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 08:52:30 PM
Earlier I was watching The DEPAHTED which is what prompted me to create the poll. :cool:
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Caliga on July 22, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 22, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
Raging Bull.  End of discussion
Apparently not. :hmm:
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Queequeg on July 22, 2013, 10:43:14 PM
King of Comedy is better than all but 2 or 3.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 10:51:16 PM
Have to give the final edge to Raging Bull.

Although, I don't know what's more disappointing:  Shutter Island, or the fact that Shutter Island was in the poll instead of Last Temptation of Christ.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Neil on July 22, 2013, 11:26:28 PM
Shutter Island was hillarious for the total lack of subtlety.  It's like the whole first twenty minutes of the movie, they just keep blaring the 'this island is bad news' theme louder and louder and louder.  Around the time they actually got to the psych ward, I figured that the speakers in the theatre were going to blow.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Ideologue on July 22, 2013, 11:57:05 PM
Need to see a few, but After Hours is my favorite of the quite a few I have seen.

Concur with Neil about Shutter Island, though I found its Twilight Zone-esque storytelling enjoyable.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: 11B4V on July 23, 2013, 12:08:42 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 22, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
Raging Bull.  End of discussion, lock the thread.

Goodfellas followed by The Departed
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: DGuller on July 23, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
Voted far Casino, possibly because I've never watched Goodfellas in its entirety.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: The Brain on July 23, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
SURRENDER DOROTHY
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Caliga on July 23, 2013, 10:10:58 AM
Quote from: DGuller on July 23, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
Voted far Casino, possibly because I've never watched Goodfellas in its entirety.
Casino is a great film but Goodfellas is definitely better.  I highly recommend that you check it out.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Tamas on July 23, 2013, 10:16:26 AM
I don't get what's good about Raging Bull. Boring movie about a major asshole. YAWN
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Malthus on July 23, 2013, 10:20:40 AM
Apparently, there is a sequel to Raging Bull in the works.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Ideologue on July 23, 2013, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 23, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
SURRENDER DOROTHY

:)
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: PRC on July 23, 2013, 11:49:32 AM
Voted for Goodfellas. 

It may not be my favourite of his films, but it's the total package.  Great production value, great artistic vision, great "rise & fall" story and great acting.  Raging Bull comes close but I don't think it's as accessible as Goodfellas so that's why it got the vote.

If the poll was for favourites I probably would have voted for the Last Temptation of Christ, shamefully missing from this list (I haven't read Kazantzakis's book or the Bible).  It's nowhere near the production value of most of Scorsese's films other than maybe Mean Streets... all the money probably went to being on location or there was no money from studio fear of being associated with the project... but it's the one movie that actually made me contemplate Christian spiritual matters in a way that Ben Hur or the Ten Commandments never could.  Catholics say it's heretical, as not-a-true-believer I have no opinion on that, but I can say the movie made me think of who and what Christ was more than any of my interactions with a true believer or my less than ten visits to a church ever has. 
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Caliga on July 23, 2013, 11:55:09 AM
Since this is the second person to mention it:  I didn't forget Last Temptation of Christ.  I left it off because I thought it was critically panned and didn't think anyone would want to vote for it.  I just checked Rotten Tomatoes and saw that I was incorrect about that.  Sorry. :blush:
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Capetan Mihali on July 23, 2013, 01:07:34 PM
I just watched the Cape Fear remake and I thought it was, as Yi would say, ossum.  DeNiro with a southern accent is priceless.  And it's a good message film out there for defense attorneys: the ethics rules mean you have to dredge any possible dirt on rape/torture victims and use it to destroy them on the stand if it might help your client.

However, I'll go out there and say Taxi Driver.  This was such a definitive movie in my life.  So many great performances, including Scorcese's own best performance as a homicidal passenger. ("You know who lives there?  Well, you couldn't know who lives there, but I'm just saying, you know who lives there?  A nigger lives there.  How bout that, hm?")   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G85y-bK-H9o
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Syt on July 23, 2013, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on July 23, 2013, 01:07:34 PM
I just watched the Cape Fear remake and I thought it was, as Yi would say, ossum.  DeNiro with a southern accent is priceless.  And it's a good message film out there for defense attorneys: the ethics rules mean you have to dredge any possible dirt on rape/torture victims and use it to destroy them on the stand if it might help your client.

It was so awesome it's also responsible for one of the best Simpsons episodes.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Savonarola on July 23, 2013, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on July 22, 2013, 10:43:14 PM
King of Comedy is better than all but 2 or 3.

De Niro was never funnier or creepier.

I went with Raging Bull, but Goodfellas and Taxi Driver are strong contenders.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Queequeg on July 23, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 23, 2013, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on July 22, 2013, 10:43:14 PM
King of Comedy is better than all but 2 or 3.

De Niro was never funnier or creepier.

I went with Raging Bull, but Goodfellas and Taxi Driver are strong contenders.
You know, I never understood if his ending schtick was supposed to be funny or not.  Scorsese has a minor part as a cameraman laughing at DeNiro's jokes, which is some indication that my response (I thought it was hilarious) was intended. 
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: Savonarola on July 23, 2013, 03:40:00 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on July 23, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
You know, I never understood if his ending schtick was supposed to be funny or not.  Scorsese has a minor part as a cameraman laughing at DeNiro's jokes, which is some indication that my response (I thought it was hilarious) was intended.

I thought it was funny too; though most of his jokes are clichés.  The studio audience laughs at his jokes, but so did the cardboard cutouts at his apartment.  DeNiro's character is probably more disturbed in this film than the one he played in Taxi Driver.  That might be what makes the routine funny, seeing such an off-kilter character standing up and telling harmless jokes.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: The Brain on July 23, 2013, 04:12:23 PM
It was funny.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2013, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: PRC on July 23, 2013, 11:49:32 AM
If the poll was for favourites I probably would have voted for the Last Temptation of Christ, shamefully missing from this list (I haven't read Kazantzakis's book or the Bible).  It's nowhere near the production value of most of Scorsese's films other than maybe Mean Streets... all the money probably went to being on location or there was no money from studio fear of being associated with the project... but it's the one movie that actually made me contemplate Christian spiritual matters in a way that Ben Hur or the Ten Commandments never could.  Catholics say it's heretical, as not-a-true-believer I have no opinion on that, but I can say the movie made me think of who and what Christ was more than any of my interactions with a true believer or my less than ten visits to a church ever has.

You don't have to read Kazantzakis to appreciate Last Temptation.  Setting aside Harvey Keitel's painful Judas-from-da-Bronx ("Whattsa matta witchu?  Where's ya head?") early on, it's by far the most complex, compelling and ultimately uplifting interpretation of Jesus and the highlights of synoptic gospels ever filmed, and always brings out in me the little kid that loved the story of Jesus in his Children's Bible. 

Certainly beats that snuff film porn Mel Gibson made, which I couldn't even fucking finish.

And Peter Gabriel's soundtrack is not only a classic in world music, but his most mature work ever as an artist.
Title: Re: Best Scorsese Film
Post by: mongers on July 23, 2013, 06:14:25 PM
Damn, now I'm gonna have to watch a few of these films again.  <_<