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Title: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 13, 2009, 09:32:59 PM
Awful :(

QuoteSouth Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Gay support group cites 10 new cases of 'corrective rape' a week in one city.

Reuters
updated 10:53 a.m. ET, Fri., March. 13, 2009

JOHANNESBURG - Gangs of South African men are raping lesbians in the belief it will "cure" the women's sexual orientation, an aid agency said Friday.

NGO ActionAid said in a report titled "Hate Crimes: the rise of corrective rape in South Africa" lesbians were increasingly at risk of rape, particularly in South African townships where homosexuality is largely taboo.

South Africa has one of the world's most progressive constitutions and became the first country in Africa to allow gay marriage in 2006, but homosexuality is still widely frowned upon and same-sex unions are often decried as "un-African."
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The brutal rape and murder last year of female soccer player Eudy Simelane, a lesbian, threw a spotlight on homophobic violence, particularly toward women.

"We get insults every day, beatings if we walk alone, you are constantly reminded that you deserve to be raped," ActionAid quoted one lesbian as saying. "They yell, 'if I rape you then you will go straight, you will buy skirts and start to cook because you will have learnt how to be a real woman'."

Homophobic attacks
One lesbian and gay support group told ActionAid it was dealing with 10 new cases of lesbians being targeted for what it called "corrective rape" every week in Cape Town alone.

Thirty one lesbians have been reported murdered in homophobic attacks since 1998, but support groups say the actual number is probably much higher because crimes on the basis of sexual orientation are not recognized in the South African criminal justice system, ActionAid said.

Of the 31 cases, only two cases were brought to South African courts and there has been only one conviction. South Africa has one of the world highest rates of rape but activists say very few cases end in conviction, and women's groups say police and the justice system have failed to tackle the problem.

ActionAid estimates there are 500,000 rapes in South Africa every year.

It said the police were particularly reluctant to investigate crimes against lesbians and said support for survivors was inadequate.

Copyright 2009 Reuters.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Neil on March 13, 2009, 09:48:56 PM
Rape is the answer to everything in Africa.  AIDS, homosexuality, vampires, ethnic strife.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 09:58:23 PM
Good thing it isn't happening in the US-- otherwise it would incur Marty's wrath.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Neil on March 13, 2009, 09:59:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 09:58:23 PM
Good thing it isn't happening in the US-- otherwise it would incur Marty's wrath.
Yeah right.  Marty is a male pseudogay with issues.  He hates lesbians even more than he hates heterosexuals.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 13, 2009, 10:28:51 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 13, 2009, 09:48:56 PM
Rape is the answer to everything in Africa.  AIDS, homosexuality, vampires, ethnic strife.


Don't forget penis theft.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Legbiter on March 13, 2009, 10:33:55 PM
How awful.

Btw, the smilies still suck.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 13, 2009, 09:59:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 09:58:23 PM
Good thing it isn't happening in the US-- otherwise it would incur Marty's wrath.
Yeah right.  Marty is a male pseudogay with issues.  He hates lesbians even more than he hates heterosexuals.

You're forgetting how anti-American he is, though.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Queequeg on March 13, 2009, 11:27:56 PM
Cure people of their fear of penises and love of vaginas by traumatizing them for life with the traumatic, violent insertion of a penis?

What the fuck are these people, fucking retarded in addition to evil?
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: garbon on March 13, 2009, 11:34:39 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on March 13, 2009, 11:27:56 PM
Cure people of their fear of penises and love of vaginas by traumatizing them for life with the traumatic, violent insertion of a penis?

What the fuck are these people, fucking retarded in addition to evil?

Considering that many here think lesbians originate from women who have bad experiences with men, it was bound to happen that elsewhere, someone would think the opposite.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Razgovory on March 14, 2009, 01:49:35 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 13, 2009, 09:48:56 PM
Rape is the answer to everything in Africa.  AIDS, homosexuality, vampires, ethnic strife.

When all you have is a hammer everything starts to look like nail.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 14, 2009, 02:17:24 AM
What's the success rate?
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Syt on March 14, 2009, 02:36:09 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 14, 2009, 02:17:24 AM
What's the success rate?

Yeah. I say we fund a study of the SA government to investigate the medical efficiency of this treatment. Might be a good tie-in study for Pfizer.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 14, 2009, 03:07:50 AM
Quote from: neil
Rape is the answer to everything in Africa.  AIDS, homosexuality, vampires, ethnic strife.

aye, but when European powers come and rape their continent -basically following the local custom about rape- they're called imperialists and colonialists.  ::)
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Syt on March 14, 2009, 03:11:41 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 14, 2009, 03:07:50 AM
Quote from: neil
Rape is the answer to everything in Africa.  AIDS, homosexuality, vampires, ethnic strife.

aye, but when European powers come and rape their continent -basically following the local custom about rape- they're called imperialists and colonialists.  ::)

Obviously we didn't rape them in the way they felt comfortable. :(
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: The Brain on March 14, 2009, 03:37:29 AM
I would call for nuking Africa but the warheads are worth more than the entire continent. Seems so wasteful.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Martinus on March 14, 2009, 04:27:25 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 09:58:23 PM
Good thing it isn't happening in the US-- otherwise it would incur Marty's wrath.
Only that it is. There was a case recently in the US of a lesbian being gang raped exactly because she was a lesbian.

Quote4 Arrested in Calif. Lesbian's 'Extreme' Gang Rape

RICHMOND, Calif.  —  Two men and two teens have been arrested on suspicion of gang-raping a woman last month in the San Francisco Bay area while allegedly taunting her for being a lesbian, police said Thursday.

Officers arrested Humberto Hernandez Salvador at his Richmond home Wednesday night, Richmond police Lt. Mark Gagan said. The 31-year-old is being held without bail on gang rape, kidnapping and carjacking charges.

Police on Wednesday also arrested a 15-year-old Richmond boy and a 16-year-old Hercules boy, who were being held at a juvenile detention center on similar charges. Their names were not released.

Josue Gonzalez, 21, turned himself in Thursday after police announced they were searching for him. He was wanted on charges of gang rape, kidnapping and carjacking.

Gagan said Gonzalez asked for an attorney when he turned himself in but said nothing about his alleged role in the attack.

"We feel that while these four suspects were at large, a large cross-section of our population felt unsafe," Gagan said. "Now that the fourth one is behind bars, we can all breathe a sigh of relief."

Police would not detail each person's alleged involvement. Tips from local residents led to the arrests.

Detectives say the 28-year-old victim was attacked on Dec. 13 after she got out of her car, which bore a rainbow gay pride sticker. The alleged attackers made comments indicating they knew she was a lesbian, police said.

Authorities have characterized the case as a hate crime. Police said the victim lives openly with a female partner.

The 45-minute attack started when one of the men approached the woman in the street, struck her with a blunt object, ordered her to disrobe and sexually assaulted her with the help of the others, according to detectives.

When the group saw another person approaching, they forced the victim back into her car and took her to a burned-out apartment building. She was raped again inside and outside the vehicle and left naked outside the building while the alleged assailants took her wallet and drove off in her car, police said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,474877,00.html

But assuming for a moment that your attack on me wasn't an epic fail, I still don't get it. Why wouldn't the story posted by Tim incur my wrath only because it is happening in South Africa? I am usually the first to post horrible stories from third world - whether it is the one about gay Iranian boys being hanged, or a public execution of a GLBT person in Iraq - but I usually get taunted for it. Not to mention, the shitty human rights conditions in these countries are sadly, a norm, and thus it is not possible to report them all - obviously if something like this happens in a first world country it's another story.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: The Brain on March 14, 2009, 09:17:47 AM
Mart, we can't nuke every single country.

Or can we? :-\
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Josquius on March 14, 2009, 09:41:17 AM
Rape is to Africa what leeches are to Europe.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: DisturbedPervert on March 14, 2009, 10:37:26 AM
Quote
South Africa has one of the world's most progressive constitutions and became the first country in Africa to allow gay marriage in 2006

Oh, that will change soon enough.  Just wait until Jacob Zuma, rapist, fag hater, HIV denier, and next in line in the ANC, assumes the presidency.

Quotesame-sex marriages were "a disgrace to the nation and to God" and "When I was growing up, an ungqingili (a homosexual) would not have stood in front of me. I would knock him out."
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: I Killed Kenny on March 14, 2009, 11:16:51 AM
HOTT
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Slargos on March 14, 2009, 11:30:56 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on March 13, 2009, 11:27:56 PM
Cure people of their fear of penises and love of vaginas by traumatizing them for life with the traumatic, violent insertion of a penis?

What the fuck are these people, fucking retarded in addition to evil?

I was about to say "niggers" but for some reason it is not politically correct to call a spade a spade.  ::)
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Neil on March 14, 2009, 12:01:38 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on March 14, 2009, 10:37:26 AM
Oh, that will change soon enough.  Just wait until Jacob Zuma, rapist, fag hater, HIV denier, and next in line in the ANC, assumes the presidency.

Quotesame-sex marriages were "a disgrace to the nation and to God" and "When I was growing up, an ungqingili (a homosexual) would not have stood in front of me. I would knock him out."
He's still less evil than Martinus.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Lucidor on March 14, 2009, 12:58:08 PM
Quote from: I Killed Kenny on March 14, 2009, 11:16:51 AM
HOTT
No, Kenny, that's NOT the correct way to say you agree nuclear fire is the only cure.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:05:14 PM
Tim you spend an inordinate amount of your time surfing sordid waters - you should get laid.

As for this...  arabs and africans - same combat.




G.

Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Slargos on March 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:05:14 PM
Tim you spend an inordinate amount of your time surfing sordid waters - you should get laid.

As for this...  arabs and africans - same combat.




G.

Keep the faith, brother.  8)
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Slargos on March 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:05:14 PM
...

As for this...  arabs and africans - same combat.



G.

Keep the faith, brother.  8)


I'm taking about anachronistic cultural hangups Slargos - not about 'racial' inferiority. 

-----

Although... in all honesty, this could still and still do happen in our societies so I should have resisted the temptation to be flippant about it.  It's just that this sort of things seem to happen way more regularly 'over there' than it does here.  On the other hand this could simply mean there's not much difference between 'them' and 'us' - only one of degree.

Ye gods we are indeed cursed ! *miss the pope icon*




G.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Neil on March 14, 2009, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
I'm taking about anachronistic cultural hangups
Now THAT is ironic.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 14, 2009, 01:27:54 PM

Now THAT is ironic.


Don't you dare infer our Cause is anachronistic !




G.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Slargos on March 14, 2009, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Slargos on March 14, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:05:14 PM
...

As for this...  arabs and africans - same combat.



G.

Keep the faith, brother.  8)


I'm taking about anachronistic cultural hangups Slargos - not about 'racial' inferiority. 

-----

Although... in all honesty, this could still and still do happen in our societies so I should have resisted the temptation to be flippant about it.  It's just that this sort of things seem to happen way more regularly 'over there' than it does here.  On the other hand this could simply means there's not much difference between 'them' and 'us' - only one of degree.

Ye gods we are indeed cursed ! *miss the pope icon*




G.

I know you do.

Nature vs Nurture.  :-X

I tentatively agree, even if I'm not entirely convinced, that you are correct.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Neil on March 14, 2009, 01:37:22 PM
Quote from: Grallon on March 14, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 14, 2009, 01:27:54 PM

Now THAT is ironic.


Don't you dare infer our Cause is anachronistic !
Not just the cause, but the language.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 14, 2009, 04:33:42 PM
Richmond, CA is a den of scum and villainy where the schools are surrounded with razor wire. There is functionally no difference between Richmond and Africa.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: PDH on March 14, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 14, 2009, 04:33:42 PM
Richmond, CA is a den of scum and villainy where the schools are surrounded with razor wire. There is functionally no difference between Richmond and Africa.
Probably a lower literacy rate in Richmond...
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Neil on March 14, 2009, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 14, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 14, 2009, 04:33:42 PM
Richmond, CA is a den of scum and villainy where the schools are surrounded with razor wire. There is functionally no difference between Richmond and Africa.
Probably a lower literacy rate in Richmond...
Third worlders are third worlders whether they come from Africa or Mexico.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Martinus on March 14, 2009, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 14, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 14, 2009, 04:33:42 PM
Richmond, CA is a den of scum and villainy where the schools are surrounded with razor wire. There is functionally no difference between Richmond and Africa.
Probably a lower literacy rate in Richmond...
And higher obesity rates.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Neil on March 14, 2009, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 14, 2009, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 14, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 14, 2009, 04:33:42 PM
Richmond, CA is a den of scum and villainy where the schools are surrounded with razor wire. There is functionally no difference between Richmond and Africa.
Probably a lower literacy rate in Richmond...
And higher obesity rates.
You're one to be making cracks about being fat.
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: garbon on March 14, 2009, 06:07:42 PM
Quote from: Neil on March 14, 2009, 06:01:40 PM
You're one to be making cracks about being fat.

:)
Title: Re: South Africa gangs using rape to 'cure' lesbians
Post by: Ideologue on March 15, 2009, 02:28:38 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 14, 2009, 01:49:35 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 13, 2009, 09:48:56 PM
Rape is the answer to everything in Africa.  AIDS, homosexuality, vampires, ethnic strife.

When all you have is a hammer everything starts to look like nail.
:D