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Title: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Ape on May 26, 2009, 05:31:11 AM
http://www.thelocal.se/19672/20090526/ (http://www.thelocal.se/19672/20090526/)

QuoteSwedish navy arrests pirates off Somali coast

Published: 26 May 09 11:25 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/19672/20090526/

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Swedish naval personnel arrested seven pirates in the Gulf of Aden in the early hours of Tuesday morning, according to a statement from the Swedish Armed Forces.

    * Spy ship rescues Russian fishermen (18 May 09)
    * Swede caught in Somali pirate attack (26 Apr 09)
    * Swedish navy set to join hunt for pirates off Somali coast (16 Apr 09)

The pirates were apprehended by staff from the HMS Malmö as they attempted to board a cargo vessel halfway between Yemen and Somalia.

HMS Malmö was responding to a distress signal sent out shortly before 1.30am by the M/V Antonis. The cargo ship's crew said they had come under grenade fire from two boats manned by pirates.

When the Swedish crew arrived at the scene the pirates were attempting to board the cargo vessel.

HMS Malmö fired warning shots at the pirates using cannons, machine guns and sniper fire in a bid to halt the attack, the Swedish military said.

When the pirates attempted to flee, the HMS Malmö took up the chase, focusing on one of the boats. After around twenty minutes, the pirates gave up and a Swedish crew was dispatched to board the pirates' fishing boat.

Seven men were handcuffed and taken on board the Swedish corvette. The boarding crew also seized two handguns, a GPS navigator and a grappling hook.

The Swedish Navy has detained the seven pirates and is currently awaiting orders from the head of the EU's Somalia operation.

An agreement between the EU and Kenya stipulates that pirates arrested by EU forces are to be taken to Kenya to face trial.

More information soon.

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Swedish navy fired depthcharges on supposed Soviet/Russian subs during the eighties/nineties, but many of these cases have later been proven to be organics rather then submarines.  :Embarrass:

When was the last time Swedish ships fired their guns in anger upon an hostile vessel? I haven't the foggiest.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Viking on May 26, 2009, 05:37:09 AM
Slargos approves I presume.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Alatriste on May 26, 2009, 05:49:36 AM
1814, I would say... probably some corsair attacking French shipping.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Viking on May 26, 2009, 05:56:27 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 26, 2009, 05:49:36 AM
1814, I would say... probably some corsair attacking French shipping.

I'm guessing 1809, but then again the Swedish Navy imfamously did not fight when it mattered. 
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Neil on May 26, 2009, 06:38:17 AM
I'm amazed the Swedes had the balls to use force.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
Quote from: Ape on May 26, 2009, 05:31:11 AM
Swedish navy fired depthcharges on supposed Soviet/Russian subs during the eighties/nineties, but many of these cases have later been proven to be organics rather then submarines.  :Embarrass:

Really? Sounds like a good way to start WWIII.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Ape on May 26, 2009, 09:28:11 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
Quote from: Ape on May 26, 2009, 05:31:11 AM
Swedish navy fired depthcharges on supposed Soviet/Russian subs during the eighties/nineties, but many of these cases have later been proven to be organics rather then submarines.  :Embarrass:

Really? Sounds like a good way to start WWIII.
Should have added, 'on Swedish territorial waters'.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Neil on May 26, 2009, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
Quote from: Ape on May 26, 2009, 05:31:11 AM
Swedish navy fired depthcharges on supposed Soviet/Russian subs during the eighties/nineties, but many of these cases have later been proven to be organics rather then submarines.  :Embarrass:

Really? Sounds like a good way to start WWIII.
Why?  Would the US lift a finger to save Sweden from the Soviets?

I would hope not.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Ape on May 26, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 26, 2009, 09:29:59 AM

Why?  Would the US lift a finger to save Sweden from the Soviets?

I would hope not.
Overall strategic picture. If Sweden would have fallen to the Red horde, Norway becomes completely undefendable. Sweden on the other hand is much more defendable, particulary in an attack from the north
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: The Brain on May 26, 2009, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 26, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
Quote from: Ape on May 26, 2009, 05:31:11 AM
Swedish navy fired depthcharges on supposed Soviet/Russian subs during the eighties/nineties, but many of these cases have later been proven to be organics rather then submarines.  :Embarrass:

Really? Sounds like a good way to start WWIII.

:huh: Why would... ah OK it's Tim.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: The Brain on May 26, 2009, 01:32:15 PM
For Tim:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa299%2FSlayhem%2FWhiskeyontherocks.jpg&hash=1132c3f899ed9596bef14e696f9a71866e6092bc)
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Ed Anger on May 26, 2009, 03:56:55 PM
When playing as the Soviets in the WWIII boardgames GDW put out, I always violated Finn and Swede neutrality to get at the creamy nougat that is Norway.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Razgovory on May 26, 2009, 04:27:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 26, 2009, 03:56:55 PM
When playing as the Soviets in the WWIII boardgames GDW put out, I always violated Finn and Swede neutrality to get at the creamy nougat that is Norway.

I have got to get those games.  You can combine all three into one super game right?
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Razgovory on May 26, 2009, 04:28:13 PM
Quote from: Ape on May 26, 2009, 05:31:11 AM


Swedish navy fired depthcharges on supposed Soviet/Russian subs during the eighties/nineties, but many of these cases have later been proven to be organics rather then submarines.  :Embarrass:


Those might have been American subs.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Ed Anger on May 26, 2009, 04:30:53 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 26, 2009, 04:27:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 26, 2009, 03:56:55 PM
When playing as the Soviets in the WWIII boardgames GDW put out, I always violated Finn and Swede neutrality to get at the creamy nougat that is Norway.

I have got to get those games.  You can combine all three into one super game right?

They are very expensive now. But yeah, you could combine all 4 into Europe and the Middle East.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/Third_World_War_series
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Siege on May 26, 2009, 04:56:58 PM
Kudos to the HMS Malmo.

I would have sunk the other boat, though.

But it was a good show up nonetheless.

Nothing like kidnapping wanna-be kidnappers.

Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: KRonn on May 26, 2009, 05:04:20 PM
Good going Swedish military on the scene. We need that and a lot more of it versus pirates off the Somali coast. 
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Ape on May 26, 2009, 05:21:59 PM
Having seen the moving pictures of the incident, it seems quite unimpressive  :Embarrass:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/nyheter/utrikes/article5233093.ab (http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/nyheter/utrikes/article5233093.ab)
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Razgovory on May 26, 2009, 07:19:23 PM
Damn. :(
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Tonitrus on May 26, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
So how long will the pirates spend in a Swedish prison?  A couple weeks?
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Neil on May 26, 2009, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 26, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
So how long will the pirates spend in a Swedish prison?  A couple weeks?
They'll  be executed in Kenya.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 27, 2009, 12:02:40 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 26, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
So how long will the pirates spend in a Swedish prison?  A couple weeks?
Hand them over to an international court so they can have a 15 year trial.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Habsburg on May 27, 2009, 12:14:30 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 26, 2009, 03:56:55 PM
When playing as the Soviets in the WWIII boardgames GDW put out, I always violated Finn and Swede neutrality to get at the creamy nougat that is Norway.

:perv:

That is hot.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Neil on May 27, 2009, 06:27:28 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 27, 2009, 12:02:40 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 26, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
So how long will the pirates spend in a Swedish prison?  A couple weeks?
Hand them over to an international court so they can have a 15 year trial.
Kenya's in Subsaharan Africa.  The trial will be lucky to last 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Slargos on May 27, 2009, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 26, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
So how long will the pirates spend in a Swedish prison?  A couple weeks?

Considering that the pirates you norte americanos captured were summarily RELEASED I think any time spent in Swedish prison is still a victory.  :P
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Caliga on May 27, 2009, 07:38:54 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on May 27, 2009, 12:14:30 AM
:perv:

That is hot.
I always violated Swedish neutrality because I felt my troops needed comfort women with blonde hair and large boobs.  :)
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: grumbler on May 27, 2009, 08:19:20 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 27, 2009, 07:18:51 AM
Considering that the pirates you norte americanos captured were summarily RELEASED I think any time spent in Swedish prison is still a victory.  :P
Dude, they were dead!  Why imprison a corpse?  :lol:
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Cecil on May 27, 2009, 08:27:12 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 27, 2009, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 26, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
So how long will the pirates spend in a Swedish prison?  A couple weeks?

Considering that the pirates you norte americanos captured were summarily RELEASED I think any time spent in Swedish prison is still a victory.  :P

Actually that was the portugese who did that.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Josquius on May 27, 2009, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 27, 2009, 07:38:54 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on May 27, 2009, 12:14:30 AM
:perv:

That is hot.
I always violated Swedish neutrality because I felt my troops needed comfort women with blonde hair and large boobs.  :)
Why on earth go to Sweden then?
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Slargos on May 27, 2009, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Cecil on May 27, 2009, 08:27:12 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 27, 2009, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on May 26, 2009, 08:21:54 PM
So how long will the pirates spend in a Swedish prison?  A couple weeks?

Considering that the pirates you norte americanos captured were summarily RELEASED I think any time spent in Swedish prison is still a victory.  :P

Actually that was the portugese who did that.

I thought it was the canucks.
Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Siege on May 27, 2009, 01:33:42 PM
It was the french.

Title: Re: Swedish naval vessels open fire on confirmed hostiles, first time since when?
Post by: Razgovory on May 27, 2009, 01:45:55 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 27, 2009, 07:38:54 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on May 27, 2009, 12:14:30 AM
:perv:

That is hot.
I always violated Swedish neutrality because I felt my troops needed comfort women with blonde hair and large boobs.  :)

I did that in some wargames for just that reason.