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Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by OttoVonBismarck - Today at 10:39:18 PMAttending Church (Mosque) has, IMO, never been as central to religious life for Muslims. Mosques are certainly important, but Islam has also long rejected many of the symbols and the "priestly class" of Christianity / Rabbinical Judaism. Imams are not the Muslim equivalent of a Priest, they are more like the Muslim equivalent of a Deacon, and aside from Shiites with their Ayatollahs (and I think Shia is only like 10% of Muslims worldwide or something), most Muslim religious leaders are basically just the equivalent of "popular theologians" who gain a following (that often perpetuates after their death.)
The Caliph had a special role in Islam, but obviously there hasn't been a Caliph in going on 100 years.
In traditional Christianity it is taught that you really need to go to Church, experience the liturgy etc. In Islam it is far more important you follow the Five Pillars in your daily life.
The "Friday prayer" was and is often an important time to gather in Mosques, similar to Sunday for Christians--but again, less so. In fact in many Islamic regions the Friday mosque gathering was only common in very large cities.
The Caliph had a special role in Islam, but obviously there hasn't been a Caliph in going on 100 years.
In traditional Christianity it is taught that you really need to go to Church, experience the liturgy etc. In Islam it is far more important you follow the Five Pillars in your daily life.
The "Friday prayer" was and is often an important time to gather in Mosques, similar to Sunday for Christians--but again, less so. In fact in many Islamic regions the Friday mosque gathering was only common in very large cities.
#2
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Sophie Scholl - Today at 10:18:17 PMI meant more as in being in denial of who I really am by putting ally in quotes. 
As to what to do differently? Believe women. Just because you know something to be illegal or wrong doesn't make it so. Especially if such things are more or less socially accepted or at least tolerated. Speak up more when you see guys being creepy or when you see women being uncomfortable or they tell you that they are. You'll never really get it unless you are a woman, but trying to be better and trying to ensure those around you are better is important as heck. Be honest with yourself and what you are or are not doing. Ask women friends/family what you can do better, what you're doing right, or what you're doing wrong. Accept criticism. That's really basic stuff, but it is a great start!
As to what to do differently? Believe women. Just because you know something to be illegal or wrong doesn't make it so. Especially if such things are more or less socially accepted or at least tolerated. Speak up more when you see guys being creepy or when you see women being uncomfortable or they tell you that they are. You'll never really get it unless you are a woman, but trying to be better and trying to ensure those around you are better is important as heck. Be honest with yourself and what you are or are not doing. Ask women friends/family what you can do better, what you're doing right, or what you're doing wrong. Accept criticism. That's really basic stuff, but it is a great start!
#3
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Valmy - Today at 09:53:20 PMQuote from: Sophie Scholl on Today at 09:34:27 PMI spent 40ish years of my life feeling absolutely safe no matter where I went. I have spent a year getting catcalled, followed, threatened, touched, groped, inappropriately talked to, propositioned, and more. I thought I understood how bad it was before. I thought I was a good "ally". I thought I knew the depths that men went to in pursuit of women. I was wrong.
Ok I believe you. But you seem to blame yourself as being a bad "ally". Some of the stuff you describe is actually illegal to do so it isn't like there is some sense that these men could reasonably understand what they are doing isn't wrong. What should you have done differently in those 40ish years?
#4
Off the Record / Re: What are you listening to?
Last post by Sophie Scholl - Today at 09:45:20 PMTTPD
#5
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Sophie Scholl - Today at 09:34:27 PMI spent 40ish years of my life feeling absolutely safe no matter where I went. I have spent a year getting catcalled, followed, threatened, touched, groped, inappropriately talked to, propositioned, and more. I thought I understood how bad it was before. I thought I was a good "ally". I thought I knew the depths that men went to in pursuit of women. I was wrong.
#6
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Valmy - Today at 09:25:32 PMQuote from: Sophie Scholl on Today at 09:18:53 PMAs someone with a rather unique perspective on this: men need to stop talking, listen, and do better. A lot better. As bad as you may think it is? It is worse.
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#7
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Sophie Scholl - Today at 09:18:53 PMAs someone with a rather unique perspective on this: men need to stop talking, listen, and do better. A lot better. As bad as you may think it is? It is worse.
#8
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Valmy - Today at 08:31:01 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on Today at 08:28:59 PMI think that's a very kind reading. My first thought would be that I now have a stalker who, a week (and hundreds of deliveries) later still remembers where I live.
Maybe but he is also just a kid thus prone to making well meaning idiotic choices. But sure.
Also it just shows that approaching women, and gay men apparently, will make them think you might be a stalker. So, again, don't fucking do it.
#9
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 08:28:59 PMI think that's a very kind reading. My first thought would be that I now have a stalker who, a week (and hundreds of deliveries) later still remembers where I live.
#10
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Valmy - Today at 08:25:32 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on Today at 08:21:10 PMBut I don't feel that's anything like a delivery guy dropping off some furniture (or a cabbie or whatever else) "stopping by" to hit on you a week later.
That is why I think he wanted to say something at the time but chickened out or wisely realized how unprofessional that would be and then some of his "friends" encouraged or pressured him to go back and take a shot at it. You normally wouldn't wait a week to do that.