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Title: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Syt on June 23, 2017, 10:17:00 AM
http://www.newsweek.com/crime-mexico-murder-rate-reaches-record-high-and-nobody-talking-about-it-628193

QuoteCRIME IN MEXICO: MURDER RATE REACHES RECORD HIGH AND NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT

Newly released figures reveal that one person was murdered every twenty minutes in Mexico in May, the highest monthly murder rate recorded in 20 years.  The data released Wednesday documented 2,452 murder investigations in May, almost a third higher than the same time last year and the highest recorded murder rate for any month dating back to 1997, when government tracking began.

Areas that are heavily disputed between rival drug cartels have higher murder rates: In Guerrero State, where the tourist resort of Acapulco is located, there were 216 murders in May, almost 7 a day.

Guerrero citizens resorted to form vigilante groups to protect their families and the gold mines from rival drug cartels -- Guerreros Unidos and Los Rojos -- who fight for control of drug trafficking routes and extort money from the mine owners.

In Sinaloa, the home of the cartel led by one of Mexico's most notorious drug kingpins, Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman, there were 184 murders, including the fatal shooting, in broad daylight, of veteran organized crime journalist Javier Valdez on May 15.

According to regional experts, the capture of El Chapo in January 2016 created a power vacuum that is being violently disputed between different cartels vying for Sinaloa territory. A 2016 report by Human Rights Watch denounced the Mexican military for carrying out extrajudicial killings and human rights violations while providing back-up to federal police officers in the decade-long fight against the cartels,

Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto is facing mounting criticism for his government's inability to address the rising murder rate. According to an International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) survey on armed conflicts released in May 2017, Mexico is now the second-deadliest conflict zone in the world after Syria, with 22,967 homicide victims in 2016. With 11,155 homicide victims recorded in the first five months of this year, the final tally for 2017 is set to be even higher.

The Mexican government rejected the IISS study findings, claiming that the number of homicide victims is not specific to the drug war, as it includes victims of other crimes such as domestic violence. Mexico State, which recorded the country's highest homicide rate in May with 225 murder probes, has been dubbed the femicide capital by Spanish newspaper El Pais.

Since the government does not record the number of organized-crime-related homicides, the overall murder rate is the closest one can get to measuring the intensity of the Mexican conflict, IISS researchers say.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 11:01:09 AM
Nobody is talking about it because nobody cares.

If those deaths were the result of a Maoist rebel insurgency, we'd have three brigade combat teams in there. 

Drugs? Meh. Just like all those darkies in the cities, BFD.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Valmy on June 23, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
Do you think it would actually be good for Mexico if the United States sent in its military?

If that is what would happen then it is probably good nobody is talking about it.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 11:17:38 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
Do you think it would actually be good for Mexico if the United States sent in its military?

Objection;  leading and stupid question.  Next.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 23, 2017, 11:19:06 AM
Overruled. The defendant will answer the question.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Syt on June 23, 2017, 12:24:25 PM
Well, here's someone who cares:
QuoteDonald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump  19 hours ago

Mexico was just ranked the second deadliest country in the world, after only Syria. Drug trade is largely the cause. We will BUILD THE WALL!
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on June 23, 2017, 11:19:06 AM
Overruled. The defendant will answer the question.

Sidebar;  it was an autistic question, and we know for a fact that Valmy is not an Assburger.  Therefore misleading and hostile.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Valmy on June 23, 2017, 12:27:28 PM
Glad to see Newsweek started the conversation.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Tonitrus on June 23, 2017, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 11:01:09 AM
Nobody is talking about it because nobody cares.

If those deaths were the result of a Maoist rebel insurgency, we'd have three brigade combat teams in there. 

Drugs? Meh. Just like all those darkies in the cities, BFD.

How about three Amigos, then?  :P

Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 02:22:36 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 23, 2017, 01:19:57 PM
How about three Amigos, then?  :P

What a great stupid movie.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 02:27:10 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2017, 12:27:28 PM
Glad to see Newsweek started the conversation.

Kurt Eichenwald had a three (amigos) issue series in Newsweek between the RNC and Election Day on Trump's connections with Russia, and nobody gave a shit about it, either. 
Nobody fucking cares about anything anymore except streaming content to their smartphones.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Razgovory on June 23, 2017, 02:29:32 PM
Quote from: Syt on June 23, 2017, 12:24:25 PM
Well, here's someone who cares:
QuoteDonald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump  19 hours ago

Mexico was just ranked the second deadliest country in the world, after only Syria. Drug trade is largely the cause. We will BUILD THE WALL!

The wall will now be powered by solar panels!
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Iormlund on June 23, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
Quote from: Syt on June 23, 2017, 12:24:25 PM
Well, here's someone who cares:
QuoteDonald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump  19 hours ago

Mexico was just ranked the second deadliest country in the world, after only Syria. Drug trade is largely the cause. We will BUILD THE WALL!

It's amazing how he manages to miss the whole fucking point. México should regulate import/export of narcotics and be done with it.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: HVC on June 23, 2017, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on June 23, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
Quote from: Syt on June 23, 2017, 12:24:25 PM
Well, here's someone who cares:
QuoteDonald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump  19 hours ago

Mexico was just ranked the second deadliest country in the world, after only Syria. Drug trade is largely the cause. We will BUILD THE WALL!

It's amazing how he manages to miss the whole fucking point. México should regulate import/export of narcotics and be done with it.

Then America would invade.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 23, 2017, 04:09:15 PM
Like we did in Panama.  :sleep:
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 23, 2017, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on June 23, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
It's amazing how he manages to miss the whole fucking point. México should regulate import/export of narcotics and be done with it.

How does export regulation of a product illegal in other states solve anything?  If Mexico did that they would essentially be a narco-state.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: dps on June 23, 2017, 05:43:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 11:17:38 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
Do you think it would actually be good for Mexico if the United States sent in its military?

Objection;  leading and stupid question.  Next.

Rephrase:  If someone were to care, what do you think they should suggest be done about the situation?
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: Ed Anger on June 23, 2017, 07:47:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 02:27:10 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2017, 12:27:28 PM
Glad to see Newsweek started the conversation.

Kurt Eichenwald had a three (amigos) issue series in Newsweek between the RNC and Election Day on Trump's connections with Russia, and nobody gave a shit about it, either. 
Nobody fucking cares about anything anymore except streaming content to their smartphones.

Eichenwald likes tentacle porn. Look it up.
Title: Re: New record: 2,452 recorded murders in Mexico in month of May 2017
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2017, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: dps on June 23, 2017, 05:43:15 PM
Rephrase:  If someone were to care, what do you think they should suggest be done about the situation?

It needs to be treated more as a destabilized allied nation than dead weight.