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Title: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 20, 2016, 07:06:23 PM
This is more of a business related post than strictly gaming but close enough.  Supposedly they are pulling the Wii U.  Not just stop selling but actually pulling it from stores.  I get that - the U was a commercial flop.  But the 3DS OTOH has been successful.  And cannot be found in stores.  Hasn't been available for a while now.  Even the 2DS is starting to sell out.  Then there's the "Classic" NES which is one of the bit hits of the season.  Except it isn't because there are no units to sell.  This is truly a bizarre business model.  Sony and MSFT are pulling out the stops to sell millions of units for Christmas, and Nintendo is basically refusing to supply any hardware product whatsoever.  Any clue what the thinking is here?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Valmy on December 20, 2016, 07:14:11 PM
Wait what? I own a Wii U. Fuck. What are they going to replace it with?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on December 20, 2016, 08:04:42 PM
It's called the switch, will be out in March, information revealed on January 12th.

I don't get Nintendo, their hardware is impossible to find anywhere. The japanese business model of "queues being a good thing" is infuriating.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Valmy on December 20, 2016, 08:13:18 PM
March?

Well I guess I know what the Easter Bunny is bringing David.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Ed Anger on December 20, 2016, 08:14:35 PM
Weird eggs.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on December 21, 2016, 07:14:55 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2016, 08:13:18 PM
March?

Well I guess I know what the Easter Bunny is bringing David.

Yes, expect a 250$ Sku.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 07:24:04 AM
North American thing? The 3DS is still available here. 2DS also.
Or is the old 3DS (not New 3DS) being pulled out?

As for shortages, this is known as the Nintendo model by some - mean - people cf. Wii in the first years of its existence.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on December 21, 2016, 08:11:03 AM
Yeah, it's NoA doing who knows what.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on December 21, 2016, 08:15:03 AM
Nintendo seems to relish artificial scarcity. Think of the whole Amibo thing where production runs were below demand, and the mini NES is another example. I think Jim Sterling mentioned that he talked to friends in retail who would receive 3 or so of the consoles at launch, and then another two or three a few weeks later.

Add their backwards YouTube approach where they will usually claim the monetization if activated (though they made a "fair offer" of taking a signifcant chunk of gross ad revenue from YouTubers in exchange for not slapping them with copyright claims).
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 21, 2016, 10:17:01 AM
Yes I know the artificial scarcity tactic.  But the whole point is to generate pent up demand and marketing buzz that is then taken advantage of by supply later.  If the plan was to generate buzz during the Black Friday week by restricting supply and then feed in product in December I would get it.  But they are whiffing on the entire season.  In North America that means you lose the sale.  The casual customer that got hooked on the buzz moves on.  They are leaving a LOT of money of the table this season.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 10:18:45 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 21, 2016, 10:17:01 AM
Yes I know the artificial scarcity tactic.  But the whole point is to generate pent up demand and marketing buzz that is then taken advantage of by supply later.  If the plan was to generate buzz during the Black Friday week by restricting supply and then feed in product in December I would get it.  But they are whiffing on the entire season.  In North America that means you lose the sale.  The casual customer that got hooked on the buzz moves on.  They are leaving a LOT of money of the table this season.

This happened before, namely for the Wii, and Nintendo lost money the way you describe it.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Brain on December 21, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
I'm shocked that westerners believe that everything has to be about monetary gain.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Valmy on December 21, 2016, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 21, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
I'm shocked that westerners believe that everything has to be about monetary gain.

Japan hasn't been about monetary gain since the 80s.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 21, 2016, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 21, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
I'm shocked that westerners believe that everything has to be about monetary gain.

Right - Nintendo doesn't care about monetary gain.  That explains the premium pricing on the new Mario app.

I don't buy the brilliant managed scarcity strategy.  They certainly didn't carefully manage supply on the "U" .  They just seem to do an incredibly lousy job of planning for demand and managing the supply chain - the very things Japanese companies are supposed to be really good at.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 10:34:10 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 21, 2016, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 21, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
I'm shocked that westerners believe that everything has to be about monetary gain.

Right - Nintendo doesn't care about monetary gain.  That explains the premium pricing on the new Mario app.

I don't buy the brilliant managed scarcity strategy.  They certainly didn't carefully manage supply on the "U" .  They just seem to do an incredibly lousy job of planning for demand and managing the supply chain - the very things Japanese companies are supposed to be really good at.

The Wii U did not sell well, scarcity was not never a problem, unless you mean the scarcity of sales.  :P
The Wii did sell well. Yes, that's the problem, people mixed up the both of them so felt no need to buy a new one.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on December 21, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 21, 2016, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 21, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
I'm shocked that westerners believe that everything has to be about monetary gain.

Right - Nintendo doesn't care about monetary gain.  That explains the premium pricing on the new Mario app.

And their highly restrictive YouTube policies (though that seems like a common streak among Japanese developers and publishers).
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Valmy on December 21, 2016, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 10:34:10 AM
The Wii U did not sell well, scarcity was not never a problem, unless you the scarcity of sales.  :P
The Wii did sell well. Yes, that's the problem, people mixed up the both of them so felt no need to buy a new one.

Which is too bad since the Wii U is much better than the Wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 21, 2016, 10:54:52 AM
The Wii U is a good system but it wasn't perceived as a sufficient upgrade to merit a new purchase and it hasn't been strongly supported on the software side.

My understanding is that the switch will be using different format software and will not be backwards compatible.  Obnoxious.  Could they be intentionally tanking the 3DS to try to transfer demand for Switch at launch.  Seems a crazy business strategy but who knows?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on December 21, 2016, 11:07:13 AM
Who knows how some of those companies think. Konami is sitting on some of the best known and most valuable brands and intellectual properties in gaming, and they decided to focus on mobile games and pachinko machines, bascally giving up on PC and console games.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 11:22:47 AM
Well, Konami is perhaps the saddest example of the evolution of the Japanese videogame industry. :( Such a legend...

I am not aware they gave up on their one big sports license, PES, though. But, yeah forget a new Suikoden, and Metal Gear Solid without Kojima seems doubtful. I don't think Kojima can use the name after he was fired by Konami.

Back to topic, Nintendo still uses his most valuable brands.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Valmy on December 21, 2016, 11:26:59 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 11:22:47 AM
Well, Konami is perhaps the saddest example of the evolution of the Japanese videogame industry. :( Such a legend...

More like devolution.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on December 21, 2016, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 11:22:47 AM
Well, Konami is perhaps the saddest example of the evolution of the Japanese videogame industry. :( Such a legend...

I am not aware they gave up on their one big sports license, PES, though. But, yeah forget a new Suikoden, and Metal Gear Solid without Kojima seems doubtful. I don't think Kojima can use the name after he was fired by Konami.

Back to topic, Nintendo still uses his most valuable brands.

They hang onto PES for now, but I think it's not going be for too long.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 21, 2016, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 21, 2016, 11:22:47 AM
Well, Konami is perhaps the saddest example of the evolution of the Japanese videogame industry. :( Such a legend...

I am not aware they gave up on their one big sports license, PES, though. But, yeah forget a new Suikoden, and Metal Gear Solid without Kojima seems doubtful. I don't think Kojima can use the name after he was fired by Konami.

Back to topic, Nintendo still uses his most valuable brands.

They hang onto PES for now, but I think it's not going be for too long.

There is a new Metal Gear Solid scheduled, without Kojima.
As for PES, FIFA really needs a competitor...
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 22, 2016, 05:50:22 PM
After bitching about this, the new 3DS suddenly showed up today on Amazon Prime Now (NY), at the 99.99 price.  Doesn't seem to be available anywhere else though.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Minsky Moment on December 23, 2016, 11:41:31 AM
And . . . the Classic came into the Nintendo store today
Hard to find a diverse set of people then the line at the Nintendo NYC store.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Brain on December 23, 2016, 11:43:23 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 23, 2016, 11:41:31 AM
And . . . the Classic came into the Nintendo store today
Hard to find a diverse set of people then the line at the Nintendo NYC store.

And in English?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on January 11, 2017, 07:27:44 AM
:hmm:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6031b8ef039e34150277184feab392ccf33be9dc/0_0_3777_2266/master/3777.jpg?w=1225&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=e453f2fc5b2e6f34f5eca3b275c1a19c)
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on January 11, 2017, 07:29:28 AM
You like Puppy dog controller, G?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on January 11, 2017, 07:39:04 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 23, 2016, 11:41:31 AM
And . . . the Classic came into the Nintendo store today
Hard to find a diverse set of people then the line at the Nintendo NYC store.

Nes Mini Classic do you mean? Much better seller than the Wii U for sure.
Sold out before Christmas, to amplify speculation.  :tinfoil:
Extra controllers are still sold out.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on January 11, 2017, 07:55:07 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 11, 2017, 07:29:28 AM
You like Puppy dog controller, G?

Nope.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: LaCroix on January 11, 2017, 09:11:42 AM
switch is basically a hybrid console-handheld. if nintendo is purposely tanking the 3DS, maybe that's why.

QuoteThen there's the "Classic" NES which is one of the bit hits of the season.

I want to believe this was intentional  :D
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on January 11, 2017, 09:15:41 AM
We'll know Thursday night/Friday morning.

No Zelda at launch, included game is Splatoon Redux, 250$USD Sku.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on January 13, 2017, 08:39:24 AM
I was, uh, 100% wrong.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on January 13, 2017, 08:49:56 AM
What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: LaCroix on January 13, 2017, 09:27:16 AM
zelda at launch. nintendo had a major switch presentation last night. it was all in japanese. at one point, the translator started breaking down and seemed to wing it. he did everything but cry in front of everyone. he was quickly replaced and presumably fired.  :D
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on January 13, 2017, 09:31:06 AM
Quote from: LaCroix on January 13, 2017, 09:27:16 AM
zelda at launch. nintendo had a major switch presentation last night. it was all in japanese. at one point, the translator started breaking down and seemed to wing it. he did everything but cry in front of everyone. he was quickly replaced and presumably fired.  :D

Couldn't keep up with what Suda51 was saying. It's understandable, dude's crazy.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on January 13, 2017, 09:32:02 AM
Quote from: garbon on January 13, 2017, 08:49:56 AM
What are you talking about?

The Switch. It's 300$; Zelda is a launch game; Splatoon Redux is actually Splatoon 2 & not for launch.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: DontSayBanana on January 15, 2017, 09:25:34 AM
The switch itself looks awesome, but it seems like Nintendo just can't resist the urge to introduce a clusterfuck to what should be a killer product.

Nintendo just cannot handle online.  They're moving to paid online access for multiplayer for the Switch (ew), and the only perk is a monthly "classic" game that can be played on virtual catch- except unlike the Sony/Microsoft method of taking a less profitable back title and making it free to obtain, they're going with the ridiculous failed "Sega Channel" method of the game itself only being playable for the month it's being offered.  After that, you have to purchase.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Josquius on January 15, 2017, 04:25:40 PM
I am thoroughly unenthusiastic about Switch. It's just a fancy tablet. Wow.

I am constantly tempted to get a wii to catch up on everything decent I missed on that and the gamecube. But I know if I did I'd probably never play it.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on January 15, 2017, 08:26:57 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 15, 2017, 04:25:40 PM
I am thoroughly unenthusiastic about Switch. It's just a fancy tablet. Wow.

I am constantly tempted to get a wii to catch up on everything decent I missed on that and the gamecube. But I know if I did I'd probably never play it.

Just use the Dolphin emulator. You can play games in 4k with it.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: DontSayBanana on January 25, 2017, 08:18:28 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 15, 2017, 08:26:57 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 15, 2017, 04:25:40 PM
I am thoroughly unenthusiastic about Switch. It's just a fancy tablet. Wow.

I am constantly tempted to get a wii to catch up on everything decent I missed on that and the gamecube. But I know if I did I'd probably never play it.

Just use the Dolphin emulator. You can play games in 4k with it.

The ones that run stably, anyway.  Solid for Gamecube stuff, but Smash Bros. Brawl is the only Wii title I haven't run into problems with speedups or slowdowns making the game unusable.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Razgovory on January 25, 2017, 09:34:13 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 11, 2017, 07:29:28 AM
You like Puppy dog controller, G?

I thought it was an answering machine.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on February 17, 2017, 12:21:35 PM
NoA is pissing me off. I want to buy a New Nintendo 3ds but only freaking Xls are sold if at all.

:ultra:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Josquius on March 06, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
It seems that the switch launch has been a massive success.
I'm surprised. Considering the launch line up... It's basically 300 quid for zelda.
Maybe it has just come at the right time? Amidst the malaise of the world we need a new Nintendo?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on March 06, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
So far, no Switch shortages unlike the Wii or more recently, the New New Mini though.  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on March 06, 2017, 07:25:22 AM
It appears the new Zelda game runs better on the WiiU than on the Switch at the moment.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on March 06, 2017, 07:49:44 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 06, 2017, 07:25:22 AM
It appears the new Zelda game runs better on the WiiU than on the Switch at the moment.

Really? The Switch is supposed to be the "superior" version. The first test I read mentioned the Wii U version had a less stable framerate than the Switch, itself not stellar.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on March 06, 2017, 08:00:14 AM
Well, I was going by comments from some streamers over the weekend.

Kotaku ( :blush: ) quotes a Digital Foundry test, saying that comparing docked Switch in 900p and WiiU at 720p, in some cases one runs better, in other cases the other. Undocked, in 720p, the Switch outperforms the WiiU. They warn that they only looked at the first section of the game, though.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/03/zelda-breath-of-the-wilds-switch-and-wii-u-versions-compared/

It seems the Switch is sold for 329.- here which is pretty cheap for a new console, I suppose. Bit surprised that there's no console/Zelda bundle.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Berkut on March 06, 2017, 08:46:04 AM
I bought a Switch for my son, and another one just because.

Sold the extra one a day later for $100 over the purchase price because they were sold out already.

Son says the new Zelda game is the best video game he has ever played.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on March 06, 2017, 08:48:34 AM
299 € in most places here, and not sold out so speculation would not work here, yet.
Some chains had preorder boni such as 40 € voucher to use for a game later on such as Zelda or Mario Kart 8 Deluxe which comes out later in April.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Josquius on March 06, 2017, 08:49:44 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on March 06, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
So far, no Switch shortages unlike the Wii or more recently, the New New Mini though.  :P

I read an article in the independent which spoke of demand outstripping supply.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on March 06, 2017, 08:51:14 AM
The new Zelda is pretty awesome, I gotta say.

Bought the WiiU version. Their are frame drops often just like what the Switch version has but the graphics are nice enough. If you wanted really awesome graphics playing a Nintendo game is not the way to go.

To play Zelda on Switch here is prohibitively expensive. 400+80+100+Taxes. Console, game, pro controller.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on March 06, 2017, 08:55:05 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 06, 2017, 08:49:44 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on March 06, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
So far, no Switch shortages unlike the Wii or more recently, the New New Mini though.  :P

I read an article in the independent which spoke of demand outstripping supply.

Varies locally I suppose. The UK is not very Nintendo-friendly in general though IIRC.
Here at best, there are temporary shortages at best, but stock due March 10. Not enough to sell one for 100 € more than the list price.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Josquius on March 06, 2017, 08:56:16 AM
Yeah, the big complaint I've seen is the amount of add ons needed.

The lack of a D pad on the controller also bemuses and annoys many reviewers
Quote from: Berkut on March 06, 2017, 08:46:04 AM
I bought a Switch for my son, and another one just because.

Sold the extra one a day later for $100 over the purchase price because they were sold out already.

Son says the new Zelda game is the best video game he has ever played.

A lesson in business for the boy? 😂
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on March 06, 2017, 09:07:54 AM
I've watched bits and pieces of Zelda over the weekend. It looks pretty good. It seems like they modernized it just enough.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on March 06, 2017, 12:24:46 PM
I think of it alot in the vein of a Survival (ala Rust), Far Cry Primal & GTA 5 in a Zelda setting.

Every enemy encounter can be tackled differently & amusingly.

By mistake I set the grass on fire in a field, it spread so far out that it destroyed an enemy outpost that I hadn't even discovered yet. Easy chess.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on March 18, 2017, 09:14:02 AM
That Zelda game generally got decent reviews. Jim Sterling liked it, but didn't like some things, and gave it 7/10, which rates as "good" on his scale.

This unleashed a torrent of abuse, death threats, hacking attempts on his social media accounts, and DDOS attacks on his site by rabid Zelda fanbois.  :wacko:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 18, 2017, 09:41:47 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 18, 2017, 09:14:02 AM
That Zelda game generally got decent reviews. Jim Sterling liked it, but didn't like some things, and gave it 7/10, which rates as "good" on his scale.

This unleashed a torrent of abuse, death threats, hacking attempts on his social media accounts, and DDOS attacks on his site by rabid Zelda fanbois.  :wacko:

It looks decent enough.  I want to know if there are sufficient differences to warrant getting the Switch or if it would be serviceable on my Wii U, but the gameplay I've seen generally looks like somebody took Twilight Princess, The Wind Waker, and Metal Gear Solid 3 and diced it in a blender (for example, the food and stealth mechanics really scream MGS3 to be, but it's got the Korok leaf from Wind Waker... but its overworld map most closely resembles Twilight Princess- since Hyrule Castle is in the center of the map, rather than the north).
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Razgovory on March 18, 2017, 10:53:02 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 18, 2017, 09:14:02 AM
That Zelda game generally got decent reviews. Jim Sterling liked it, but didn't like some things, and gave it 7/10, which rates as "good" on his scale.

This unleashed a torrent of abuse, death threats, hacking attempts on his social media accounts, and DDOS attacks on his site by rabid Zelda fanbois.  :wacko:

I didn't even know there were such things as Zelda fans.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on March 18, 2017, 12:56:20 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 18, 2017, 09:41:47 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 18, 2017, 09:14:02 AM
That Zelda game generally got decent reviews. Jim Sterling liked it, but didn't like some things, and gave it 7/10, which rates as "good" on his scale.

This unleashed a torrent of abuse, death threats, hacking attempts on his social media accounts, and DDOS attacks on his site by rabid Zelda fanbois.  :wacko:

It looks decent enough.  I want to know if there are sufficient differences to warrant getting the Switch or if it would be serviceable on my Wii U, but the gameplay I've seen generally looks like somebody took Twilight Princess, The Wind Waker, and Metal Gear Solid 3 and diced it in a blender (for example, the food and stealth mechanics really scream MGS3 to be, but it's got the Korok leaf from Wind Waker... but its overworld map most closely resembles Twilight Princess- since Hyrule Castle is in the center of the map, rather than the north).

It works fine on the WiiU.

The game reminds me of Far Cry Primal & Dark Souls. If they had a Zelda baby, together.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Josquius on May 14, 2017, 02:19:54 PM
So surprisingly it seems to be a massive success for nintendo.

I do find myself oddly tempted.

Though....there are no games released or scheduled that look particularly interesting
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Barrister on June 26, 2017, 02:04:50 PM
Super Nintendo Classic Edition is coming.  No idea if they'll make enough for someone to actually buy.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/plug-and-play-snes-classic-coming-sept-29-for-80-with-two-controllers/
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Habbaku on June 26, 2017, 03:40:51 PM
I'm going to buy as many as I can get my hands on.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: HVC on June 26, 2017, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 26, 2017, 03:40:51 PM
I'm going to buy as many as I can get my hands on.

so none?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 27, 2017, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2017, 02:04:50 PM
Super Nintendo Classic Edition is coming.  No idea if they'll make enough for someone to actually buy.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/plug-and-play-snes-classic-coming-sept-29-for-80-with-two-controllers/

:secret:

Pre-order  :P

Two controllers is very good news. Extra controllers for the NES mini were harder to find that the console itself.
Longer cords are nice too.
Japanese edition with Mystical Ninja and Fire Emblem has perhaps a stronger selection (Earthbound a.k.a Mother 2 and Castlevania IV in the West though) but why Super Soccer instead of ISS Deluxe? Too expensive to license from Konami?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on June 27, 2017, 10:01:22 AM
The NES classic had no NA pre-order*. Expect the same for the SNES classic.

I want one, of course, I guess I won't get one.

*Apparently Target did an unofficial one, Nintendo didn't approve.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 27, 2017, 02:44:16 PM
Well, easy then pre-order by Target then or whoever defies NOA. Earlier in the day, one could pre-order Snes Minis in the German site of a famous online retailer.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on June 28, 2017, 08:13:50 AM
not easy, most don't ship here.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on June 28, 2017, 05:12:49 PM
Well, the pre-order period started and it sold out pretty quickly. More stock than for the New Mini hopefully, as per Nintendo's statement.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on June 29, 2017, 03:55:06 AM
I may or may not have pre-ordered one? Argos said they would confirm my order in the next few hours. :D
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on July 02, 2017, 01:31:19 PM
Well, I pre-ordered 2 Snes Minis, just in case.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on July 04, 2017, 09:37:30 AM
I'll buy the other one.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on July 05, 2017, 10:12:47 AM
Get ready for a continental European power plug adaptor and a voltage converter too. :)
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on July 05, 2017, 10:14:21 AM
These things are USB powered.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on July 05, 2017, 10:27:15 AM
Yes, the one I purchased noted that it comes with no power plug - I have to supply my own.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on July 05, 2017, 10:42:01 AM
Yep, for once the lack of a power plug is actually a benefit, for importers that is.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on July 11, 2017, 09:46:35 AM
FCC still with its finger up his ass means no NoA pre-order still.

Rumors are saying by the end of July.

Je suis sérieux Duque pour ta 2e précommande.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on July 11, 2017, 02:30:30 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 11, 2017, 09:46:35 AM

Je sérieux Duque pour ta 2e précommande.

Trop tard ! Il y aura une pénurie ici aussi, bien que moindre, et quelqu'un s'est déjà manifesté.

Amazon.co.uk, .de ou.fr peuvent livrer aussi au Canada je pense.

Je suis passé par ce lien pour commander. Hors Amazon, les autres ne livrent pas au Canada a priori :
http://www.snesmini.fr (http://www.snesmini.fr)
Ils ont un Facebook aussi.

PS: j'ai une manette Nes Mini en trop  :P
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on July 11, 2017, 03:02:48 PM
Oh :(
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Josquius on July 12, 2017, 03:09:11 AM
Wonder if there'll be an N64 mini next
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on July 12, 2017, 06:07:08 AM
Not as popular as the NES or SNES, except in North America. OTOH, a N64 with a HDMi port, when the original did not have RGB quality (officially) would be quite an improvement, without mentioning the HD factor.
Finding 20 classics won't take long, but 30 will be difficult.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on July 12, 2017, 06:16:18 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 12, 2017, 06:07:08 AM
Not as popular as the NES or SNES, except in North America. OTOH, a N64 with a HDMi port, when the original did not have RGB quality (officially) would be quite an improvement, without mentioning the HD factor.
Finding 20 classics won't take long, but 30 will be difficult.

My only concern is that I think the 3d graphics aged (and in general age) much worse.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on July 12, 2017, 06:25:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 12, 2017, 06:16:18 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 12, 2017, 06:07:08 AM
Not as popular as the NES or SNES, except in North America. OTOH, a N64 with a HDMi port, when the original did not have RGB quality (officially) would be quite an improvement, without mentioning the HD factor.
Finding 20 classics won't take long, but 30 will be difficult.

My only concern is that I think the 3d graphics aged (and in general age) much worse.

Valid point.
Early 3D certainly aged badly, specially for the N64 and its "blurry" (composite) graphics.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on July 12, 2017, 07:27:17 AM
I think so but first I think they go thru the Gameboy classic & a SNES 2.

and maybe game compilation for the Switch.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on September 16, 2017, 05:18:34 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 11, 2017, 03:02:48 PM
Oh :(

Il y eu des réassorts ici et là ; et au Québec ? T'as réussi à mettre la main sur une préco ou pas ?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on September 17, 2017, 09:48:54 AM
La console ne sera pas disponible au Québec, peu être jamais.

J'ai une précommande chez FNAC, en espérant qu'ils ne me l'annullent pas.

Sinon, peu être que j'irai en Ontario.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on September 17, 2017, 04:03:27 PM
Je viens de voir que la Fnac expédiait au Canada donc c'est bon.
Il se peut que le prix de la console baisse un peu d'ici à la sortie. Déjà vue à 75 € ailleurs en préco.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on September 18, 2017, 09:12:33 AM
Nintendo came thru & the Console will be available in Quebec.

No one is doing pre-orders anymore since it crashes every store website that has tried it so far.

Line-up in the morning & hope.

Le pire dans tout sa? Un SNES Original qui fonctionne, j'en ai toujours un.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on September 18, 2017, 09:30:07 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 18, 2017, 09:12:33 AM

Le pire dans tout ça ? Un SNES Original qui fonctionne, j'en ai toujours un.

Moi aussi. ;) Mais une SNES qui ressort le tout parfaitement en HDMI, sans besoin de repasser par un appareil pour convertir du RGB (Japon et Europe) 240P pour un écran plat ça reste intéressant.
Le signal pourri composite ou même S-vidéo NTSC U/C sur écran plat (4K? HDR?)? LULZ!

Nintendo says more SNES Minis will be made available than NES minis, while the latter is to be produced again next year, the former might avoid the scalping and scarcity of last year for the NES.

PS: j'avais oublié que les consoles changeaient de genre au Québec.  :P
Comme au Brésil par rapport au Portugal.  :hmm: (o console vs a consola)
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on September 18, 2017, 09:37:30 AM
C'est plus compliqué que sa; une console mais un lorsqu'on utilise son nom. ex: un playstation, un Nintendo, etc. La Wii est une exception bizarre.

Jason Schreier has theorized that the NES Mini was a production tie over while they were prepping to start the Switch & had already ended WiiU production. Now that switch is up running & some capacity is available they are used to make NES & SNES minis.

Nintendo stumbled into a product people wanted, they didn't know.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Minsky Moment on September 18, 2017, 10:18:46 AM
Nintendo uses contract Chinese manufacturing like everyone else.  In fact they contract with industry giant Foxconn/Hon Hai.  The NES and SNES classic are not highly complex pieces of equipment.  Once the scale of demand was obvious it should not have been that difficult to scale up.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on September 18, 2017, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 18, 2017, 09:37:30 AM
Jason Schreier has theorized that the NES Mini was a production tie over while they were prepping to start the Switch & had already ended WiiU production. Now that switch is up running & some capacity is available they are used to make NES & SNES minis.

Nintendo stumbled into a product people wanted, they didn't know.

LULZ comme disent les jeunes. [spoiler]Si avéré.  :P[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on September 18, 2017, 10:31:25 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 18, 2017, 10:18:46 AM
Nintendo uses contract Chinese manufacturing like everyone else.  In fact they contract with industry giant Foxconn/Hon Hai.  The NES and SNES classic are not highly complex pieces of equipment.  Once the scale of demand was obvious it should not have been that difficult to scale up.

That's the thing. Nintendo never scales up.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on September 26, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
It's coming! :w00t:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Josquius on September 26, 2017, 11:49:51 AM
I don't get the NES/SNES mini fuss.
There's a million unofficial clones out there no?

Speaking of which I am greatly tempted by getting a ROM cart for my SNES and/or Mega Drive.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Barrister on September 26, 2017, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 26, 2017, 11:49:51 AM
I don't get the NES/SNES mini fuss.
There's a million unofficial clones out there no?

Speaking of which I am greatly tempted by getting a ROM cart for my SNES and/or Mega Drive.

The fuss is that it is plug and play.  No fiddling with emulators, no worrying about installing softwarae of dubious legality... just plug the mini into your TV and go.

Mrs B wants to buy the boys a Switch for Christmas.  hmm... they're more expensive than I thought.  It looks to be about $480 for the switch + bundled game, and an extra controller is $100 even.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on September 26, 2017, 12:19:17 PM
I got an email saying that mine is coming on Friday! :w00t:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on September 26, 2017, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 26, 2017, 11:49:51 AM
I don't get the NES/SNES mini fuss.
There's a million unofficial clones out there no?

Speaking of which I am greatly tempted by getting a ROM cart for my SNES and/or Mega Drive.

What Beebs said + as a grown ass man with a job, I feel it is a bit odd to be a :pirate
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on September 26, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 26, 2017, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 26, 2017, 11:49:51 AM
I don't get the NES/SNES mini fuss.
There's a million unofficial clones out there no?

Speaking of which I am greatly tempted by getting a ROM cart for my SNES and/or Mega Drive.

The fuss is that it is plug and play.  No fiddling with emulators, no worrying about installing softwarae of dubious legality... just plug the mini into your TV and go.

Mrs B wants to buy the boys a Switch for Christmas.  hmm... they're more expensive than I thought.  It looks to be about $480 for the switch + bundled game, and an extra controller is $100 even.

Really? Well, low Canadian dollar I guess. Recently, they released a cheaper i.e wired, yet officially licensed controller, half of the price of the regular controller. To help get more people behind the screen for Bomberman R, somewhat fixed with patches nowadays, and Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe I guess.

Loup Gris

My pre order by Fnac is on its way too. I even saw some Snes Minis at the store,  :o If I had known I would not have pre ordered.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on September 26, 2017, 08:34:37 PM
In the Wild! That's crazy.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on September 29, 2017, 06:18:35 AM
Console stuck in Custom hell.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on September 29, 2017, 09:23:47 AM
Just got mine delivered to work. It is so tiny!
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on September 29, 2017, 05:41:07 PM
Got mine delivered, well more like picked up at the store.
Still no scalping prices online, yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on October 06, 2017, 02:53:43 PM
It made it!

Thing is tiny.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on October 06, 2017, 02:58:38 PM
Indeed. The controllers dwarf it!
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on October 06, 2017, 03:59:18 PM
Controllers feel slightly flimsier than the original ones.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: FunkMonk on October 06, 2017, 08:34:09 PM
I kind of want to buy a Switch just so I can play Stardew Valley in bed  :blush:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on October 07, 2017, 01:14:14 AM
Feels nice to switch from Super Probotector to Contra III. :)
My skills are pretty rusty though, I remember beating the game while now I barely finished the first level.  :blush:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on October 07, 2017, 10:05:08 AM
I have, like 8, other versions of Super Mario World but it's pretty cool to play with a proper controller again.

I missing the concave buttons tho, 20 years of muscle memory is coming back.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: FunkMonk on November 02, 2017, 06:59:20 AM
Kinda want a Switch real bad. Might treat myself this Christmas to one. For those with one, how do you like it? And how's the battery life?
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on November 02, 2017, 07:05:20 AM
Get a real controller, even if wired (cheaper and less generic), because the included Joy-Cons are stop gap at best for any serious gaming.
I loved the turn-based RPG tactical Super Mario. Reminds me of XCOM (the new one).
Bomberman R, while not great, has been improved by Konami and is cheaper (30 €) if you need a party game for 4-8 players.
The Street Fighter remake is not compulsory. Mario Kart 8 is always fun.
I have not played the new Super Mario Odyssey, nor Zelda Breath of the Wild but intend to.

PS: Can't tell about the battery life, I have been playing mostly in dock mode.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: FunkMonk on November 02, 2017, 07:21:00 AM
I would likely get a Pro Controller as well.

I'm especially interested in the ability to undock the console and play it as a handheld on the couch or in bed if the gf wants to watch something on the TV. Also party games are a must especially since we often have friends over. My first games would probably be Zelda and Mario Odyssey though.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on November 02, 2017, 07:59:45 AM
Don't have a Switch but I have Zelda's on the WiiU.

Get it. It's worth all the money.

Re Switch; Usually never get a 1st iteration console of a portable Nintendo new generation & always get the 1st iteration console of a Home Nintendo generation.

With the Switch being a hybrid, don't know which way to lean.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Josquius on November 11, 2017, 02:00:54 PM
What interest I had in a switch has faded.
Its strange but none of the current generation of consoles appeal to me in anyway. Maybe when Red Dead 2 comes out as PS4 only my mind will change?
But as things stand...everything comes to PC anyway.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: FunkMonk on July 12, 2018, 08:20:35 PM
I just bought a Switch and I'm sort of giddy with excitement. I got Zelda for half off but the eShop selection is very enticing right now. I'm spending more time in the eShop browsing potential purchases than anything else. I think this thing is going to eat up a lot of free time.  :blush:

Stardew Valley on the go  :blush: :blush: :blush:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on July 13, 2018, 07:48:16 AM
Zelda Botw is a great game.
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on July 13, 2018, 07:53:32 AM
A game starring Toad came out today. :hmm:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Grey Fox on July 13, 2018, 07:59:11 AM
For both the Switch & 3DS family.
:huh:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: garbon on July 13, 2018, 08:07:56 AM
Ah port from Wii U
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Syt on February 21, 2019, 03:01:01 PM
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190221005804/en/Nintendo-America%E2%80%99s-Reggie-Fils-Aime-Retire-Doug-Bowser

QuoteNintendo of America's Reggie Fils-Aime to Retire: Doug Bowser Named New President

[...]

"It has been my great fortune to work with and be mentored by Reggie for four years at Nintendo of America," Bowser said. "And rest assured, we will continue to build on his work to evolve and expand our brand, furthering Nintendo's global mission of creating smiles. There are millions more of those to come."

[...]

Bowser is an industry veteran who joined NOA in May 2015 as the Vice President of Sales before being promoted to Senior Vice President of Sales and Marketing the next year. During his time at NOA, Bowser led the sales and marketing efforts for Nintendo Switch, which became the fastest-selling video game system of this hardware generation through 21 months, according to The NPD Group. Previously, Bowser was an executive with industry powerhouse Electronic Arts, most recently as the company's Vice President of Global Business Planning. He also worked at Procter & Gamble in various sales leadership roles in Asia, Latin America and the U.S.

[...]

:lol:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Valmy on February 21, 2019, 03:10:05 PM
Bowser has finally won :weep:
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: Duque de Bragança on February 21, 2019, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 21, 2019, 03:10:05 PM
Bowser has finally won :weep:

Wario is going to be so pissed off!  :o
Title: Re: Nintendo WTF
Post by: The Minsky Moment on February 25, 2019, 03:05:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 21, 2019, 03:10:05 PM
Bowser has finally won :weep:

And he's replacing the favorite son!