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Those are the Catalan elections, we have one of those every year or so (watch this space later this autumn :P)
Last Spanish GE was in 2016.
Yeah, only one candidate over 40 among all the parties that are set to capture over 20 seats. And that one is just 47.
The recession and its political aftershocks killed the Socialist establishment that had ruled the party since the 1990s, and the blatant corruption did the same for the conservatives recently. Ciudadanos, Podemos, Vox... are all newish parties that have 30-something leaders.
I'm totally in "lesser of a dozen evils" mode right now.
This.
You're all being honeypotted. :P
She isn't the nuttiest in the list but she's a bit of a nutty.
I call him "Angry Basque Dude".
Well it was either "angry basque dude", "what, me worry?" dude at the bottom, or barely old enough to shave at third from the top.
All three are conservatives, which shows your tie-and-suit test works :P
Maybe, but I know how CdM would vote...
I like bread guy. He loves bringing props when speaking in Parliament.
https://www.lavanguardia.com/r/GODO/LV/p5/WebSite/2018/08/02/Recortada/img_dduch_20171024-160825_imagenes_lv_propias_dduch_21171024-20-kZfB--656x437@LaVanguardia-Web.jpg
https://valenciaextra.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/baldovi_naranja-680x365_c.jpg
https://cdn27.hiberus.com/uploads/imagenes/bajacalidad/2014/02/26/_joanbaldovicongreso26feb2014_d5656c50.jpg?c81e728d9d4c2f636f067f89cc14862c
https://ep01.epimg.net/ccaa/imagenes/2013/12/23/valencia/1387816629_048093_1387819627_noticia_normal.jpg
https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2014/01/03/13887658465203.jpg
I've never seen those over here. It was one of the first things I tried when I visited the US, as a tribute to Sgt. Al Powell.
The Bond villain.
Colonel Mathieu
:perv:
#6
Yeah, he changed his look when he ran for parliament. It's sad how far some people will go to fit in. :(
:rolleyes: Who do you think?
:bash:
See the Spainiard knew exactly who I meant but you don't...amazing. The guy who looks like the picture I posted. That guy.
One of them does!
Is that the guy with the red tie with white polka-dots? Doesn't look ginger to me.
My names for them:
Horse guy
Bread guy
Gameshow host
Slacker
Fat chick
Hippie wannabe
Earring guy
Chubby guy
Motivational speaker
Corrupt labor leader
Corrupt businessman
Angry professor
Passably cute chick
Dour guy
This being Languish, I of course voted for passably cute chick.
Might as well reveal their ideologies.
Horse guy: Spanish Far Right
Bread guy: regional (Valencia) left wing party
Gameshow host: conservatives
Slacker: very far left Catalan separatists
Fat chick: regional (Canary Islands) conservatives
Hippie wannabe: far-ish left
Earring guy: Basque version of the Sinn Feinn
Chubby guy: Left wing Catalan separatists
Motivational speaker: Liberals, Macron wannabes
Corrupt labor leader: Right wing Catalan separatists
Corrupt businessman: Socialdemocrats
Angry professor: regional (Navarre) conservatives
Passable cute chick: animal rights party
Dour fella: regional (Basque) conservatives, nationalists
The Gameshow Host's predecessor ruled the government with the support of Dour Fella and Motivational Speaker/Major Applewhite, until a corruption scandal broke out and Corrupt Businessman took over after a motion of no-confidence. He's had the support of Hippie Wannabee, Bread Guy, and Dour Fella, and occasionally also of Chubby Guy, Corrupt Labor Leader and Earring Guy.
None, bar massive upset.
He was leading the polls one year ago, and everybody felt it was a given that he'd win the next election. But he's had a rather torrid year. Corrupt Businessman outplayed him with the motion of non-confidence, and since then the conservatives have been able to rebuild and capitalize the opposition vote. Polls now have him at a distant 3rd place.
He's also, imho, ran a very poor campaign.
Nah, just Gibraltar.
Their international platform is mostly dominated by euroskepticism rather than the usual Spanish Nationalism cliches - this is where they show their bannonite/putinite sockpuppetry, if you ask me. They align themselves with the Visegrad lot (explicitly). Heck, they consider Hungary an example to follow and have very close connections with that piss party in Poland.
Piss party in Poland is very much anti-Putin though.
(https://i.redd.it/qaqw6rkfyy711.gif)
Is that the moustache that ruined the Justice League movie? :lol:
^_^
They lost nearly half of their seats, but they actually beat polling and they have a good chance to be in a coalition government. It's ponytail guy.
She didn't make it :(
She'll have a much better chance in the European election, where the electoral system favors parties like hers and they are entering her again as #1.
:weep:
This was a "lesser of half a dozen evils" election and what we got definitely was one of the best realistic outcomes.
Generationally bad results for the conservatives, he's a dead man walking at the moment.
They like to call themselves "unashamed right". Anyway, they weren't fooling anyone.
This picture went viral on election day:
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/59407409_10161718399370711_308254797880885248_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&oh=53d0a6b17ca85e8fb1e52466370d9ad6&oe=5D3B1909)
Party representatives in a polling station near Barcelona. Spot the dude belonging to the far right party. :lol:
It is almost surreal that anybody would have voted for these guys after WWII.
They got 2,5 million votes. That said, it was far less than most polls suggested, and their presence in congress will be ultimately inconsequential. I will enjoy watching them squirm impotently while we pass socially progressive laws during the next 4 years.
The mainstream right party (PP) has also got the worst results in their entire history while trying to appeal to far right voters, so I hope that also prevents them from going down that road and ultimately go back to being a corrupt, moralistic, but ultimately bland and boring conservative party, instead of a Spanish version of the GOP.
Concur to the nth degree. The election results can be criticized in many ways, but I really hope that the main lesson to be extracted is that there's no electoral future going hard right over here. For a while there was a certain "pride" in the Spanish exceptionalism of having no far right party in our parliament, but that didn't mean that there were no far right voters, only they were considered to be a relatively small fringe and basically represented by the more extremist wing of PP. Now those voters have a party that caters to them, instead of having to join PP's big tent to get into power. It will remain to be seen how they do in the future, they might be here to stay, or they might wither if they don't get some wins here and there in the near future. The local and European elections in a month will be another important test.
57 seats out of 350? Not bad guy-who-doesn't-actually-look-like-Major Applewhite.
So...did Inés win?
She finished fourth Barcelona (a bad result for her, it has to be said), but that's enough to secure 4 seats in that constituency, so she'll be in the Spanish parliament.
Overall the liberals gained 20-something seats and finished a mere 8 seats and 0,8% behind the conservatives. I think they will try to become the main opposition party during the next electoral cycle. We have another big election in one month (European, regional, and city councils).
I share the sentiment. She did a great job here, despite the bad result this election - and there are reasons for that, unionists are generally lefty (since they are majorly working class, while separatists are a majority in wealthier quintiles) and her party tacked too much to the right. She also played attack dog and she's too lovely to pull that off :wub:
Regarding a socalist-liberal deal. Well, that would be the favorite deal among the Spanish establishment, and Brussels would probably like it too. But for starters there's lots of personal enmity between not-major appleby and Spanish Bernie Sanders. Also their electorate are very much against any kind of deal with separatists (the party was indeed born in Barcelona as a hardline unionist party, until it went national in the 2010s with a liberal platform), while the president is in favor of a deal within the Spanish constitutional framework (an attitude that is not universally shared among the socialist electorate and leadership, has to be said).
Have you told them about Gaysper yet? :P
No!
For the languishites, on the day of the election Vox's official account shared this picture, depicting them locked in battle against the enemies of Spain: feminists! communists! separatists! left wing media! gays!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5Op_QwXkAA7anW.jpg)
To represent gays they created a picture of a gay ghost. I guess they wanted to represent the spectre of homosexuality haunting Europe? Problem is, the thing is absolutely adorable:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5RTUxEW4AAzNCv.jpg)
So the thing backfired spectacularly since "Gaysper", as he's been christened, has been appropiated by the Spanish LGBT community and gone viral as a LGBT icon.
You said?
(https://www.diariodesevilla.es/2019/04/29/sociedad/diferentes-versiones-gaysper_1350175822_99107953_667x610.jpg)
SER is a radio station. 6 is La Sexta, a tv Channel. Both are part of the vast left wing media conspiracy according to them.
Little red flag is the Antifa logo.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Antifalogo.svg)
Now that I take a more careful look at the pic, there's actually no Basque flag on it. The Catalan one is the separatist one rather than the official, and the other flag they show (besides the antifa logo) is actually the Republican Spanish one.
Question: Who would you vote for?
Option 1: 
votes: 5
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Option 2: 
votes: 3
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Option 3: 
votes: 3
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Option 4: 
votes: 3
votes: 3
Option 5: 
votes: 0
votes: 0
Option 6: 
votes: 1
votes: 1
Option 7: 
votes: 0
votes: 0
Option 8: 
votes: 1
votes: 1
Option 9: 
votes: 4
votes: 4
Option 10: 
votes: 0
votes: 0
Option 11: 
votes: 2
votes: 2
Option 12: 
votes: 1
votes: 1
Option 13: 
votes: 10
votes: 10
Option 14: 
votes: 2
votes: 2
Title: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 10:36:31 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 10:36:31 AM
A new election was called in February after the Socialist government failed to pass this year's budget. All polls have them winning the election, but a big question mark remains about whether they'll be able to form a government. Worse still, many polls show a hung parliament unless a coalition is formed with problematic parties (Catalan separatists or the Spanish far right).
But that point is moot, since here on languish we vote on looks only. Not many women this round, but who would Languish vote for?
But that point is moot, since here on languish we vote on looks only. Not many women this round, but who would Languish vote for?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Syt on April 10, 2019, 10:37:47 AM
Post by: Syt on April 10, 2019, 10:37:47 AM
I feel like we have this thread once or twice every year. :unsure:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 10:39:47 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 10:39:47 AM
Quote from: Syt on April 10, 2019, 10:37:47 AM
I feel like we have this thread once or twice every year. :unsure:
Those are the Catalan elections, we have one of those every year or so (watch this space later this autumn :P)
Last Spanish GE was in 2016.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Tamas on April 10, 2019, 10:41:23 AM
Post by: Tamas on April 10, 2019, 10:41:23 AM
Well this was an easy one.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Grey Fox on April 10, 2019, 10:44:52 AM
Post by: Grey Fox on April 10, 2019, 10:44:52 AM
Chose the one who looks like Macron.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2019, 10:59:07 AM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2019, 10:59:07 AM
I voted for the ugliest candidate. I like bread too.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: crazy canuck on April 10, 2019, 10:59:36 AM
Post by: crazy canuck on April 10, 2019, 10:59:36 AM
Your choices look to be as dismal as ours are going to be in a few months.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2019, 11:02:02 AM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2019, 11:02:02 AM
They look quite a bit younger than ours.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 10, 2019, 11:13:46 AM
Post by: Valmy on April 10, 2019, 11:13:46 AM
I voted Major Applewhite again
(https://uhcougars.com/images/2016/12/9/9598002.jpeg)
(https://uhcougars.com/images/2016/12/9/9598002.jpeg)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 11:15:02 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2019, 11:02:02 AM
They look quite a bit younger than ours.
Yeah, only one candidate over 40 among all the parties that are set to capture over 20 seats. And that one is just 47.
The recession and its political aftershocks killed the Socialist establishment that had ruled the party since the 1990s, and the blatant corruption did the same for the conservatives recently. Ciudadanos, Podemos, Vox... are all newish parties that have 30-something leaders.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 11:16:44 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 11:16:44 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 10, 2019, 10:59:36 AM
Your choices look to be as dismal as ours are going to be in a few months.
I'm totally in "lesser of a dozen evils" mode right now.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Brain on April 10, 2019, 11:32:15 AM
Post by: The Brain on April 10, 2019, 11:32:15 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 10, 2019, 10:41:23 AM
Well this was an easy one.
This.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Iormlund on April 10, 2019, 12:41:06 PM
Post by: Iormlund on April 10, 2019, 12:41:06 PM
There's only one choice, really. ¡Santiago y cierra España!
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Legbiter on April 10, 2019, 01:06:52 PM
Post by: Legbiter on April 10, 2019, 01:06:52 PM
Bet the horse guy is some flavor of crazy. Voted for the least ugly candidate.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 01:44:35 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: The Brain on April 10, 2019, 11:32:15 AMQuote from: Tamas on April 10, 2019, 10:41:23 AM
Well this was an easy one.
This.
You're all being honeypotted. :P
She isn't the nuttiest in the list but she's a bit of a nutty.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Barrister on April 10, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
Post by: Barrister on April 10, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
I voted for scowling guy, third from the bottom.
My usual platform on these is to vote for a non-crazy-looking guy in a suit. I was surprised that there were several options for "guy in a suit", decided scowly guy was my choice.
My usual platform on these is to vote for a non-crazy-looking guy in a suit. I was surprised that there were several options for "guy in a suit", decided scowly guy was my choice.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 10, 2019, 02:09:52 PM
Post by: Valmy on April 10, 2019, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 10, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
I voted for scowling guy, third from the bottom.
My usual platform on these is to vote for a non-crazy-looking guy in a suit. I was surprised that there were several options for "guy in a suit", decided scowly guy was my choice.
I call him "Angry Basque Dude".
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Barrister on April 10, 2019, 02:13:59 PM
Post by: Barrister on April 10, 2019, 02:13:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 10, 2019, 02:09:52 PMQuote from: Barrister on April 10, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
I voted for scowling guy, third from the bottom.
My usual platform on these is to vote for a non-crazy-looking guy in a suit. I was surprised that there were several options for "guy in a suit", decided scowly guy was my choice.
I call him "Angry Basque Dude".
Well it was either "angry basque dude", "what, me worry?" dude at the bottom, or barely old enough to shave at third from the top.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 02:25:18 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 10, 2019, 02:13:59 PMQuote from: Valmy on April 10, 2019, 02:09:52 PMQuote from: Barrister on April 10, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
I voted for scowling guy, third from the bottom.
My usual platform on these is to vote for a non-crazy-looking guy in a suit. I was surprised that there were several options for "guy in a suit", decided scowly guy was my choice.
I call him "Angry Basque Dude".
Well it was either "angry basque dude", "what, me worry?" dude at the bottom, or barely old enough to shave at third from the top.
All three are conservatives, which shows your tie-and-suit test works :P
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Tonitrus on April 10, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
Post by: Tonitrus on April 10, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 01:44:35 PMQuote from: The Brain on April 10, 2019, 11:32:15 AMQuote from: Tamas on April 10, 2019, 10:41:23 AM
Well this was an easy one.
This.
You're all being honeypotted. :P
She isn't the nuttiest in the list but she's a bit of a nutty.
Maybe, but I know how CdM would vote...
QuoteAnimalist Party Against Mistreatment of Animals
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 02:30:14 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 10, 2019, 02:30:14 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2019, 10:59:07 AM
I voted for the ugliest candidate. I like bread too.
I like bread guy. He loves bringing props when speaking in Parliament.
https://www.lavanguardia.com/r/GODO/LV/p5/WebSite/2018/08/02/Recortada/img_dduch_20171024-160825_imagenes_lv_propias_dduch_21171024-20-kZfB--656x437@LaVanguardia-Web.jpg
https://valenciaextra.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/baldovi_naranja-680x365_c.jpg
https://cdn27.hiberus.com/uploads/imagenes/bajacalidad/2014/02/26/_joanbaldovicongreso26feb2014_d5656c50.jpg?c81e728d9d4c2f636f067f89cc14862c
https://ep01.epimg.net/ccaa/imagenes/2013/12/23/valencia/1387816629_048093_1387819627_noticia_normal.jpg
https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2014/01/03/13887658465203.jpg
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Tonitrus on April 10, 2019, 02:31:23 PM
Post by: Tonitrus on April 10, 2019, 02:31:23 PM
When I first saw it on my phone, I thought it was a Twinkie.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: crazy canuck on April 10, 2019, 02:37:13 PM
Post by: crazy canuck on April 10, 2019, 02:37:13 PM
I almost voted for bread guy, but he seemed more nutty than the guy I did vote for, separated at birth Macron guy.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Iormlund on April 10, 2019, 03:06:14 PM
Post by: Iormlund on April 10, 2019, 03:06:14 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 10, 2019, 02:31:23 PM
When I first saw it on my phone, I thought it was a Twinkie.
I've never seen those over here. It was one of the first things I tried when I visited the US, as a tribute to Sgt. Al Powell.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 10, 2019, 03:08:34 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 10, 2019, 03:08:34 PM
Colonel Mathieu
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Monoriu on April 11, 2019, 03:29:28 AM
Post by: Monoriu on April 11, 2019, 03:29:28 AM
Which one is the most likely to say, no you can't?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 11, 2019, 04:05:51 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 11, 2019, 04:05:51 AM
Horse guy.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: DGuller on April 11, 2019, 08:05:56 AM
Post by: DGuller on April 11, 2019, 08:05:56 AM
Which one is the candidate on the first picture?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Tamas on April 11, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Post by: Tamas on April 11, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Quoteshe's a bit of a nutty.
:perv:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Savonarola on April 11, 2019, 10:33:28 AM
Post by: Savonarola on April 11, 2019, 10:33:28 AM
Tough choice between Inigo Montoya and the Marlboro Man. I went with the Marlboro Man because of the watch; if it was any bigger he's be Flavor Flav.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2019, 10:47:01 AM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2019, 10:47:01 AM
Is Inigo Montoya the one that looks like Jesus?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Savonarola on April 11, 2019, 10:56:06 AM
Post by: Savonarola on April 11, 2019, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2019, 10:47:01 AM
Is Inigo Montoya the one that looks like Jesus?
#6
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
Montoya just had a moustache, no beard.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Savonarola on April 11, 2019, 12:40:42 PM
Post by: Savonarola on April 11, 2019, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
Montoya just had a moustache, no beard.
Yeah, he changed his look when he ran for parliament. It's sad how far some people will go to fit in. :(
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Brain on April 11, 2019, 01:14:00 PM
Post by: The Brain on April 11, 2019, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 11, 2019, 08:05:56 AM
Which one is the candidate on the first picture?
:rolleyes: Who do you think?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Razgovory on April 11, 2019, 01:18:23 PM
Post by: Razgovory on April 11, 2019, 01:18:23 PM
I voted for the guy who looks like a cross of Andrew Lloyd Webber and Steve Bannon.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Iormlund on April 11, 2019, 01:31:48 PM
Post by: Iormlund on April 11, 2019, 01:31:48 PM
(https://s6.eestatic.com/2019/03/07/cultura/Historia-Santiago_Abascal-VOX-Pablo_Casado-Cultura_381473261_117247811_1706x960.jpg)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 11, 2019, 01:40:18 PM
Post by: Valmy on April 11, 2019, 01:40:18 PM
Wait...Charles V is running?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Josquius on April 11, 2019, 02:31:07 PM
Post by: Josquius on April 11, 2019, 02:31:07 PM
Glitterhoof
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 11, 2019, 02:51:40 PM
Post by: Valmy on April 11, 2019, 02:51:40 PM
Quote from: Tyr on April 11, 2019, 02:31:07 PM
Glitterhoof
:bash:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Sophie Scholl on April 12, 2019, 04:51:28 PM
Post by: Sophie Scholl on April 12, 2019, 04:51:28 PM
Deciding between John Oliver with a bagel, IT Guy 1, IT Guy 2, and attractive female. Maybe even Mr. Midlife Crisis earring. :hmm:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Syt on April 17, 2019, 02:48:54 AM
Post by: Syt on April 17, 2019, 02:48:54 AM
Btw, guy in the last image looks like the dad from Wonder Years.
(https://www.ecestaticos.com/imagestatic/clipping/e3a/569/e3a569c32d64ec966935050a9725a1d5/san-aitor-esteban.jpg?mtime=1524831410)
(https://s.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/abc_the_wonder_years_kb_140529_16x9_992.jpg)
(https://www.ecestaticos.com/imagestatic/clipping/e3a/569/e3a569c32d64ec966935050a9725a1d5/san-aitor-esteban.jpg?mtime=1524831410)
(https://s.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/abc_the_wonder_years_kb_140529_16x9_992.jpg)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 03:06:33 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 03:06:33 AM
:lol:
Today the Electoral Commission has allowed the separatist leaders currently standing for trial (and which their parties have entered in the general election) to participate in electoral debates from prison. This is going to be a first here. They have also allowed a rally in one of the prisons. They are fat guy and thumbs up guy in the photos above.
Until there's a sentence they can enter elections and be elected to office (using the powers of that office is a much grayer area though), so they are trying to milk all the publicity they can.
Today the Electoral Commission has allowed the separatist leaders currently standing for trial (and which their parties have entered in the general election) to participate in electoral debates from prison. This is going to be a first here. They have also allowed a rally in one of the prisons. They are fat guy and thumbs up guy in the photos above.
Until there's a sentence they can enter elections and be elected to office (using the powers of that office is a much grayer area though), so they are trying to milk all the publicity they can.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: saskganesh on April 17, 2019, 05:06:51 AM
Post by: saskganesh on April 17, 2019, 05:06:51 AM
voted for the guy in a hoody. #3. Looks like a philosophy professor, Without tenure.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 10:11:28 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 10:11:28 AM
Guy in a hoodie's platform is throwing Spain into political chaos until it agrees to Catalan independence. Polls give them 2 seats at best, though.
That said, we might achieve that without his help :rolleyes:
That said, we might achieve that without his help :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 17, 2019, 10:13:32 AM
Post by: Valmy on April 17, 2019, 10:13:32 AM
The fact that Catalan independence parties have a minority mandate inside Catalonia doesn't worry him any?
I have confidence Major Applewhite will put a stop to these shenanigans.
I have confidence Major Applewhite will put a stop to these shenanigans.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 10:32:04 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 10:32:04 AM
His (hoodie guy) is the most radical faction among separatists. The kind of radicalism that would make me flee the country if they ever came into power. Fortunately, they usually get only single digits in Catalan elections, but they have had an inordinate influence in Catalan politics given how important their seats are to make a majority.
Now they are trying to replicate the trick in a Spanish election that's projected to run close, and try to block any government from being elected by Parliament. I don't think their seats will matter, but we can end up with a hung parliament nonetheless.
Now they are trying to replicate the trick in a Spanish election that's projected to run close, and try to block any government from being elected by Parliament. I don't think their seats will matter, but we can end up with a hung parliament nonetheless.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 10:40:48 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 10:40:48 AM
Major Applewhite is indeed a hardcore anti-separatist. His party was founded in Barcelona in the 2000s as a reaction to the local branch of the socialists entering a coalition with left-wing separatists to rule the region.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: fromtia on April 17, 2019, 10:44:15 AM
Post by: fromtia on April 17, 2019, 10:44:15 AM
The Manly Horse Guy. Followed by "Where is the meat in my sandwich?" guy.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 10:46:06 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 17, 2019, 10:46:06 AM
Also, Major Applewhite's #2 is:
(https://static1.laverdad.es/www/multimedia/201801/29/media/cortadas/ines-arrimadas-colpisa-kgE-U50822787606A0-624x385@La%20Verdad.jpg)
(https://static1.laverdad.es/www/multimedia/201801/29/media/cortadas/ines-arrimadas-colpisa-kgE-U50822787606A0-624x385@La%20Verdad.jpg)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 17, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
Post by: Valmy on April 17, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
:wub: A woman beautiful in both ideology and appearance :P
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 17, 2019, 05:43:26 PM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 17, 2019, 05:43:26 PM
Which one is Applewhite?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 17, 2019, 05:50:50 PM
Post by: Valmy on April 17, 2019, 05:50:50 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 17, 2019, 05:43:26 PM
Which one is Applewhite?
See the Spainiard knew exactly who I meant but you don't...amazing. The guy who looks like the picture I posted. That guy.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 17, 2019, 06:04:55 PM
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 17, 2019, 06:04:55 PM
None of them look like that.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 17, 2019, 09:48:35 PM
Post by: Valmy on April 17, 2019, 09:48:35 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 17, 2019, 06:04:55 PM
None of them look like that.
One of them does!
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2019, 09:51:37 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2019, 09:51:37 PM
Look for a frowning ginger Eddie. :secret:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: saskganesh on April 17, 2019, 10:11:54 PM
Post by: saskganesh on April 17, 2019, 10:11:54 PM
lol. well at least he's having fun.
oh and nice wife for the Major. Very nice.
oh and nice wife for the Major. Very nice.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: dps on April 18, 2019, 12:42:07 PM
Post by: dps on April 18, 2019, 12:42:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2019, 09:51:37 PM
Look for a frowning ginger Eddie. :secret:
Is that the guy with the red tie with white polka-dots? Doesn't look ginger to me.
My names for them:
Horse guy
Bread guy
Gameshow host
Slacker
Fat chick
Hippie wannabe
Earring guy
Chubby guy
Motivational speaker
Corrupt labor leader
Corrupt businessman
Angry professor
Passably cute chick
Dour guy
This being Languish, I of course voted for passably cute chick.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 18, 2019, 01:47:43 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 18, 2019, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: dps on April 18, 2019, 12:42:07 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2019, 09:51:37 PM
Look for a frowning ginger Eddie. :secret:
Is that the guy with the red tie with white polka-dots? Doesn't look ginger to me.
My names for them:
Horse guy
Bread guy
Gameshow host
Slacker
Fat chick
Hippie wannabe
Earring guy
Chubby guy
Motivational speaker
Corrupt labor leader
Corrupt businessman
Angry professor
Passably cute chick
Dour guy
This being Languish, I of course voted for passably cute chick.
Might as well reveal their ideologies.
Horse guy: Spanish Far Right
Bread guy: regional (Valencia) left wing party
Gameshow host: conservatives
Slacker: very far left Catalan separatists
Fat chick: regional (Canary Islands) conservatives
Hippie wannabe: far-ish left
Earring guy: Basque version of the Sinn Feinn
Chubby guy: Left wing Catalan separatists
Motivational speaker: Liberals, Macron wannabes
Corrupt labor leader: Right wing Catalan separatists
Corrupt businessman: Socialdemocrats
Angry professor: regional (Navarre) conservatives
Passable cute chick: animal rights party
Dour fella: regional (Basque) conservatives, nationalists
The Gameshow Host's predecessor ruled the government with the support of Dour Fella and Motivational Speaker/Major Applewhite, until a corruption scandal broke out and Corrupt Businessman took over after a motion of no-confidence. He's had the support of Hippie Wannabee, Bread Guy, and Dour Fella, and occasionally also of Chubby Guy, Corrupt Labor Leader and Earring Guy.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 18, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
Post by: Valmy on April 18, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
How good of a chance does Motivational Applewhite have?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 18, 2019, 05:32:55 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 18, 2019, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 18, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
How good of a chance does Motivational Applewhite have?
None, bar massive upset.
He was leading the polls one year ago, and everybody felt it was a given that he'd win the next election. But he's had a rather torrid year. Corrupt Businessman outplayed him with the motion of non-confidence, and since then the conservatives have been able to rebuild and capitalize the opposition vote. Polls now have him at a distant 3rd place.
He's also, imho, ran a very poor campaign.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 18, 2019, 06:05:03 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 18, 2019, 06:05:03 PM
Has the Ralph Lauren gigolo said he wants to reconquer Latin America?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 19, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 19, 2019, 01:53:33 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 18, 2019, 06:05:03 PM
Has the Ralph Lauren gigolo said he wants to reconquer Latin America?
Nah, just Gibraltar.
Their international platform is mostly dominated by euroskepticism rather than the usual Spanish Nationalism cliches - this is where they show their bannonite/putinite sockpuppetry, if you ask me. They align themselves with the Visegrad lot (explicitly). Heck, they consider Hungary an example to follow and have very close connections with that piss party in Poland.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Duque de Bragança on April 19, 2019, 05:41:31 AM
Post by: Duque de Bragança on April 19, 2019, 05:41:31 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 19, 2019, 01:53:33 AMQuote from: Admiral Yi on April 18, 2019, 06:05:03 PM
Has the Ralph Lauren gigolo said he wants to reconquer Latin America?
Nah, just Gibraltar.
Their international platform is mostly dominated by euroskepticism rather than the usual Spanish Nationalism cliches - this is where they show their bannonite/putinite sockpuppetry, if you ask me. They align themselves with the Visegrad lot (explicitly). Heck, they consider Hungary an example to follow and have very close connections with that piss party in Poland.
Piss party in Poland is very much anti-Putin though.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on April 19, 2019, 05:41:55 AM
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on April 19, 2019, 05:41:55 AM
Its like opening a box of chocolates and finding that someone has scoffed all your favourites.
Voted for the animal rights woman for the usual reasons but also because the dudes are either unpleasant or deeply underwhelming :P
Voted for the animal rights woman for the usual reasons but also because the dudes are either unpleasant or deeply underwhelming :P
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 19, 2019, 06:50:36 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 19, 2019, 06:50:36 AM
Yeah, the lack of female candidates is still something we have to improve on. We have had several female candidates narrowly losing the primaries for both of Spain's major parties (PSOE and PP), but none has managed to win it yet. Actually, a woman (the former VP) won the conservative primary, but she only got a plurality of delegates and the Gameshow Host defeated her in the convention after getting the support of her rivals.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 20, 2019, 10:38:17 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 20, 2019, 10:38:17 AM
The campaign has caught GoT fever! :lol:
(https://www.lavanguardia.com/r/GODO/LV/p6/WebSite/2019/04/20/Recortada/img_lfflorio_20190420-135638_imagenes_lv_otras_fuentes_arrimadas_khaleesi-ksK--656x857@LaVanguardia-Web.png)
(https://estaticos.elperiodico.com/resources/jpg/9/1/cartel-las-juventudes-socialistas-madrid-sobre-juego-tronos-28-a-1555332643819.jpg)
(https://www.elplural.com/uploads/s1/27/27/60/pablo-iglesias-juego-tronos-644x362.jpeg)
The conservatives are also running a "Spain is one kingdom not seven" ad :lol:
(https://www.lavanguardia.com/r/GODO/LV/p6/WebSite/2019/04/20/Recortada/img_lfflorio_20190420-135638_imagenes_lv_otras_fuentes_arrimadas_khaleesi-ksK--656x857@LaVanguardia-Web.png)
(https://estaticos.elperiodico.com/resources/jpg/9/1/cartel-las-juventudes-socialistas-madrid-sobre-juego-tronos-28-a-1555332643819.jpg)
(https://www.elplural.com/uploads/s1/27/27/60/pablo-iglesias-juego-tronos-644x362.jpeg)
The conservatives are also running a "Spain is one kingdom not seven" ad :lol:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Oexmelin on April 20, 2019, 01:43:19 PM
Post by: Oexmelin on April 20, 2019, 01:43:19 PM
This does not bode well for Felipe.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 24, 2019, 09:16:52 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 24, 2019, 09:16:52 AM
Looks like Major Applewhite (who doesn't look like Major Applewhite), was happy with his debate performance yesterday.
(https://i.gyazo.com/6a406262ec8f2688951eb274b1f4e866.gif)
(https://i.gyazo.com/6a406262ec8f2688951eb274b1f4e866.gif)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 24, 2019, 11:12:42 AM
Post by: Valmy on April 24, 2019, 11:12:42 AM
He looks much less ginger without the red lighting.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Syt on April 24, 2019, 11:27:35 AM
Post by: Syt on April 24, 2019, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 24, 2019, 09:16:52 AM
Looks like Major Applewhite (who doesn't look like Major Applewhite), was happy with his debate performance yesterday.
(https://i.gyazo.com/6a406262ec8f2688951eb274b1f4e866.gif)
(https://i.redd.it/qaqw6rkfyy711.gif)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on April 24, 2019, 12:10:22 PM
Post by: The Larch on April 24, 2019, 12:10:22 PM
Quote from: Syt on April 24, 2019, 11:27:35 AM(https://i.redd.it/qaqw6rkfyy711.gif)
Is that the moustache that ruined the Justice League movie? :lol:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Syt on April 24, 2019, 12:14:17 PM
Post by: Syt on April 24, 2019, 12:14:17 PM
It's from one of the Mission Impossible movies, I think
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 24, 2019, 12:34:07 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 24, 2019, 12:34:07 PM
They asked him to do reshoots for Justice League, but he was contractually obligated to keep that moustache for Mission Impossible.
So this happened:
(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2017/11/27/cavill_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqVkR74_kydjgeTPIib1rsJ6x30VG81Iu4g0V5oSrMhqQ.jpg?imwidth=450)
So this happened:
(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2017/11/27/cavill_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqVkR74_kydjgeTPIib1rsJ6x30VG81Iu4g0V5oSrMhqQ.jpg?imwidth=450)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 11:52:25 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 11:52:25 AM
Today's the day! Turnout so far is massive, might end up being the highest in our democratic history.
Will be eating my nails in a corner, curled in fetal position.
Will be eating my nails in a corner, curled in fetal position.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Iormlund on April 28, 2019, 12:34:57 PM
Post by: Iormlund on April 28, 2019, 12:34:57 PM
In the last two years the two parties competing for my vote have done everything possible to lose it. Staying home for the first time in ages.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Legbiter on April 28, 2019, 12:38:11 PM
Post by: Legbiter on April 28, 2019, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 20, 2019, 10:38:17 AMThe conservatives are also running a "Spain is one kingdom not seven" ad :lol:
^_^
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 01:29:46 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 01:29:46 PM
Exit polls show a good result for the left and the right far from being able to make a majority. The left would need separatists to at least abstain.
We'll see, exit polls have always been hit and miss over here. Some times they hit the nail in the head, some others fail horribly.
We'll see, exit polls have always been hit and miss over here. Some times they hit the nail in the head, some others fail horribly.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:07:52 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:07:52 PM
Socialists (sunglasses guy) win the election. The conservatives (talk show host) collapse and lose 50% of their vote (yay), the far right (horse guy) underperform polling and get "just" 10% of the vote (yay). The liberals (guy that doesn't look like major appleby) have a decent showing and almost surpass the conservatives. Right now the socialists can look either left or right for a coalition, although I expect the liberals to keep their stance of not entering talks with them. However, it looks like we'll be able to get a stable-ish government. At least stable-er than the one we just had.
Separatists get 39% of the vote in Catalonia, although they have never got good results in general elections there (that 39% is actually their best result).
Bread guy, which seems was a bit of a languish favorite, kept his seat.
I'll take that.
Separatists get 39% of the vote in Catalonia, although they have never got good results in general elections there (that 39% is actually their best result).
Bread guy, which seems was a bit of a languish favorite, kept his seat.
I'll take that.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2019, 04:10:53 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2019, 04:10:53 PM
How did the loony left do? And who is their leader?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:24:11 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:24:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2019, 04:10:53 PM
How did the loony left do? And who is their leader?
They lost nearly half of their seats, but they actually beat polling and they have a good chance to be in a coalition government. It's ponytail guy.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Solmyr on April 28, 2019, 04:36:40 PM
Post by: Solmyr on April 28, 2019, 04:36:40 PM
That sounds pretty nice. Here in Finland our far right got 18% of the vote and is now the second-biggest party in the parliament (biggest one is Social Democrats). Also the Left and the Greens all got more seats than previously, but it's going to be difficult to form a government without parties giving major concessions.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:45:31 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:45:31 PM
The socialists still need to stitch a complex coalition, to be honest. But they have a much larger MP base to work from and the right is much weaker, so they should have more stability.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Legbiter on April 28, 2019, 04:54:07 PM
Post by: Legbiter on April 28, 2019, 04:54:07 PM
How fares our animal rights milf?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:57:56 PM
Post by: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:57:56 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on April 28, 2019, 04:54:07 PM
How fares our animal rights milf?
She didn't make it :(
She'll have a much better chance in the European election, where the electoral system favors parties like hers and they are entering her again as #1.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Josquius on April 29, 2019, 01:55:48 AM
Post by: Josquius on April 29, 2019, 01:55:48 AM
Apparently the far right are big on insisting they aren't far right?
This where their support is from?
This where their support is from?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Monoriu on April 29, 2019, 02:05:57 AM
Post by: Monoriu on April 29, 2019, 02:05:57 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:24:11 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2019, 04:10:53 PM
How did the loony left do? And who is their leader?
they actually beat polling and they have a good chance to be in a coalition government.
:weep:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 05:07:19 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 05:07:19 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 29, 2019, 02:05:57 AMQuote from: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:24:11 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2019, 04:10:53 PM
How did the loony left do? And who is their leader?
they actually beat polling and they have a good chance to be in a coalition government.
:weep:
This was a "lesser of half a dozen evils" election and what we got definitely was one of the best realistic outcomes.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Grey Fox on April 29, 2019, 07:06:09 AM
Post by: Grey Fox on April 29, 2019, 07:06:09 AM
How did Preacher Macron look alike(#3) do?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 07:35:50 AM
Post by: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 07:35:50 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 29, 2019, 07:06:09 AM
How did Preacher Macron look alike(#3) do?
Generationally bad results for the conservatives, he's a dead man walking at the moment.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 07:49:43 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 07:49:43 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 29, 2019, 01:55:48 AM
Apparently the far right are big on insisting they aren't far right?
This where their support is from?
They like to call themselves "unashamed right". Anyway, they weren't fooling anyone.
This picture went viral on election day:
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/59407409_10161718399370711_308254797880885248_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&oh=53d0a6b17ca85e8fb1e52466370d9ad6&oe=5D3B1909)
Party representatives in a polling station near Barcelona. Spot the dude belonging to the far right party. :lol:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 08:14:13 AM
Post by: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 08:14:13 AM
VOX fielded as candidates some former generals that had recently signed up a manifesto defending Franco's legacy. There's not much that can be done to hide things like that. The only candidate they withdrew was a Holocaust denier historian.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Monoriu on April 29, 2019, 08:42:36 AM
Post by: Monoriu on April 29, 2019, 08:42:36 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 08:14:13 AM
VOX fielded as candidates some former generals that had recently signed up a manifesto defending Franco's legacy. There's not much that can be done to hide things like that. The only candidate they withdrew was a Holocaust denier historian.
It is almost surreal that anybody would have voted for these guys after WWII.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 08:47:01 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 08:47:01 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 29, 2019, 08:42:36 AMQuote from: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 08:14:13 AM
VOX fielded as candidates some former generals that had recently signed up a manifesto defending Franco's legacy. There's not much that can be done to hide things like that. The only candidate they withdrew was a Holocaust denier historian.
It is almost surreal that anybody would have voted for these guys after WWII.
They got 2,5 million votes. That said, it was far less than most polls suggested, and their presence in congress will be ultimately inconsequential. I will enjoy watching them squirm impotently while we pass socially progressive laws during the next 4 years.
The mainstream right party (PP) has also got the worst results in their entire history while trying to appeal to far right voters, so I hope that also prevents them from going down that road and ultimately go back to being a corrupt, moralistic, but ultimately bland and boring conservative party, instead of a Spanish version of the GOP.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 09:41:46 AM
Post by: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 08:47:01 AMQuote from: Monoriu on April 29, 2019, 08:42:36 AMQuote from: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 08:14:13 AM
VOX fielded as candidates some former generals that had recently signed up a manifesto defending Franco's legacy. There's not much that can be done to hide things like that. The only candidate they withdrew was a Holocaust denier historian.
It is almost surreal that anybody would have voted for these guys after WWII.
They got 2,5 million votes. That said, it was far less than most polls suggested, and their presence in congress will be ultimately inconsequential. I will enjoy watching them squirm impotently while we pass socially progressive laws during the next 4 years.
The mainstream right party (PP) has also got the worst results in their entire history while trying to appeal to far right voters, so I hope that also prevents them from going down that road and ultimately go back to being a corrupt, moralistic, but ultimately bland and boring conservative party, instead of a Spanish version of the GOP.
Concur to the nth degree. The election results can be criticized in many ways, but I really hope that the main lesson to be extracted is that there's no electoral future going hard right over here. For a while there was a certain "pride" in the Spanish exceptionalism of having no far right party in our parliament, but that didn't mean that there were no far right voters, only they were considered to be a relatively small fringe and basically represented by the more extremist wing of PP. Now those voters have a party that caters to them, instead of having to join PP's big tent to get into power. It will remain to be seen how they do in the future, they might be here to stay, or they might wither if they don't get some wins here and there in the near future. The local and European elections in a month will be another important test.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 29, 2019, 10:01:28 AM
Post by: Valmy on April 29, 2019, 10:01:28 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:07:52 PM
The liberals (guy that doesn't look like major appleby) have a decent showing and almost surpass the conservatives.
57 seats out of 350? Not bad guy-who-doesn't-actually-look-like-Major Applewhite.
So...did Inés win?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 10:16:46 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 29, 2019, 10:01:28 AMQuote from: celedhring on April 28, 2019, 04:07:52 PM
The liberals (guy that doesn't look like major appleby) have a decent showing and almost surpass the conservatives.
57 seats out of 350? Not bad guy-who-doesn't-actually-look-like-Major Applewhite.
So...did Inés win?
She finished fourth Barcelona (a bad result for her, it has to be said), but that's enough to secure 4 seats in that constituency, so she'll be in the Spanish parliament.
Overall the liberals gained 20-something seats and finished a mere 8 seats and 0,8% behind the conservatives. I think they will try to become the main opposition party during the next electoral cycle. We have another big election in one month (European, regional, and city councils).
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on April 29, 2019, 10:18:50 AM
Post by: Valmy on April 29, 2019, 10:18:50 AM
The Cortes just got a little more fabulous.
Though I feel like she should have stayed in Catalonia.
If the Liberals and the Spanish Bernie Sanders people ally they will have an absolute majority. But you say the Liberals don't want that. Tell me more.
Though I feel like she should have stayed in Catalonia.
If the Liberals and the Spanish Bernie Sanders people ally they will have an absolute majority. But you say the Liberals don't want that. Tell me more.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 10:31:23 AM
Post by: celedhring on April 29, 2019, 10:31:23 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 29, 2019, 10:18:50 AM
The Cortes just got a little more fabulous.
Though I feel like she should have stayed in Catalonia.
If the Liberals and the Spanish Bernie Sanders people ally they will have an absolute majority. But you say the Liberals don't want that. Tell me more.
I share the sentiment. She did a great job here, despite the bad result this election - and there are reasons for that, unionists are generally lefty (since they are majorly working class, while separatists are a majority in wealthier quintiles) and her party tacked too much to the right. She also played attack dog and she's too lovely to pull that off :wub:
Regarding a socalist-liberal deal. Well, that would be the favorite deal among the Spanish establishment, and Brussels would probably like it too. But for starters there's lots of personal enmity between not-major appleby and Spanish Bernie Sanders. Also their electorate are very much against any kind of deal with separatists (the party was indeed born in Barcelona as a hardline unionist party, until it went national in the 2010s with a liberal platform), while the president is in favor of a deal within the Spanish constitutional framework (an attitude that is not universally shared among the socialist electorate and leadership, has to be said).
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 10:39:57 AM
Post by: The Larch on April 29, 2019, 10:39:57 AM
There are rumours that she might not take posession of her seat in parliament in order to stay in Catalonia, right?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on May 02, 2019, 02:21:28 AM
Post by: celedhring on May 02, 2019, 02:21:28 AM
In an unsurprising move, the far right party and their army of internet trolls are banging the STOLEN ELECTION! drum. They demand a full recount of the entire election, which is not legally possible (which they will probably use to feed their victim loop).
God, they are boring.
God, they are boring.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 05:57:18 AM
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 05:57:18 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 02, 2019, 02:21:28 AM
In an unsurprising move, the far right party and their army of internet trolls are banging the STOLEN ELECTION! drum. They demand a full recount of the entire election, which is not legally possible (which they will probably use to feed their victim loop).
God, they are boring.
Have you told them about Gaysper yet? :P
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on May 02, 2019, 09:08:24 AM
Post by: celedhring on May 02, 2019, 09:08:24 AM
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 05:57:18 AMQuote from: celedhring on May 02, 2019, 02:21:28 AM
In an unsurprising move, the far right party and their army of internet trolls are banging the STOLEN ELECTION! drum. They demand a full recount of the entire election, which is not legally possible (which they will probably use to feed their victim loop).
God, they are boring.
Have you told them about Gaysper yet? :P
No!
For the languishites, on the day of the election Vox's official account shared this picture, depicting them locked in battle against the enemies of Spain: feminists! communists! separatists! left wing media! gays!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5Op_QwXkAA7anW.jpg)
To represent gays they created a picture of a gay ghost. I guess they wanted to represent the spectre of homosexuality haunting Europe? Problem is, the thing is absolutely adorable:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5RTUxEW4AAzNCv.jpg)
So the thing backfired spectacularly since "Gaysper", as he's been christened, has been appropiated by the Spanish LGBT community and gone viral as a LGBT icon.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Brain on May 02, 2019, 10:05:28 AM
Post by: The Brain on May 02, 2019, 10:05:28 AM
Aw. :)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 11:01:26 AM
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 11:01:26 AM
It seems one of Super Mario Bros' ghosts. :lol:
I'm looking forward to all the related merchandise they'll create with it. I hope they create a whole ghost family, one for each sexual orientation. I believe there's already a Bi ghost around.
I'm looking forward to all the related merchandise they'll create with it. I hope they create a whole ghost family, one for each sexual orientation. I believe there's already a Bi ghost around.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: celedhring on May 02, 2019, 11:27:26 AM
Post by: celedhring on May 02, 2019, 11:27:26 AM
Quote from: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 11:01:26 AM
It seems one of Super Mario Bros' ghosts. :lol:
I'm looking forward to all the related merchandise they'll create with it. I hope they create a whole ghost family, one for each sexual orientation. I believe there's already a Bi ghost around.
You said?
(https://www.diariodesevilla.es/2019/04/29/sociedad/diferentes-versiones-gaysper_1350175822_99107953_667x610.jpg)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 11:38:54 AM
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 11:38:54 AM
:lmfao:
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Valmy on May 02, 2019, 11:44:03 AM
Post by: Valmy on May 02, 2019, 11:44:03 AM
Why does Vox want to chop up such cute little ghosts? Monsters.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Barrister on May 02, 2019, 12:24:36 PM
Post by: Barrister on May 02, 2019, 12:24:36 PM
Believe it or not I'd already heard of Gaysper - the internet moves fast.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:14:48 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:14:48 PM
Spain has the dorkiest Nazis ever.
I get most of the stuff, guessing on Catalan and Basque flags, but what are: SER, 6, and little red flag?
I get most of the stuff, guessing on Catalan and Basque flags, but what are: SER, 6, and little red flag?
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:16:14 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:16:14 PM
Maybe 2nd after Mosley's boys.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 03:24:07 PM
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:14:48 PM
Spain has the dorkiest Nazis ever.
I get most of the stuff, guessing on Catalan and Basque flags, but what are: SER, 6, and little red flag?
SER is a radio station. 6 is La Sexta, a tv Channel. Both are part of the vast left wing media conspiracy according to them.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Syt on May 02, 2019, 03:33:53 PM
Post by: Syt on May 02, 2019, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:14:48 PM
Spain has the dorkiest Nazis ever.
I get most of the stuff, guessing on Catalan and Basque flags, but what are: SER, 6, and little red flag?
Little red flag is the Antifa logo.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Antifalogo.svg)
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:36:31 PM
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:36:31 PM
Look away Speesh! :o
Interesting that there's no mention of Muslim hordes.
Interesting that there's no mention of Muslim hordes.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: PRC on May 02, 2019, 03:58:46 PM
Post by: PRC on May 02, 2019, 03:58:46 PM
Bread guy all the way.
Title: Re: Languish votes on the Spanish General Election (take 2)
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
Post by: The Larch on May 02, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 02, 2019, 03:14:48 PM
Spain has the dorkiest Nazis ever.
I get most of the stuff, guessing on Catalan and Basque flags, but what are: SER, 6, and little red flag?
Now that I take a more careful look at the pic, there's actually no Basque flag on it. The Catalan one is the separatist one rather than the official, and the other flag they show (besides the antifa logo) is actually the Republican Spanish one.