Quo Vadis GOP?

[Josquius]

I think we were interested in having Russia join NATO back in the 1990s.

But yeah I think a few countries in the alliance might veto them now. Like most of them.

And no chance Russia would want to be in NATO anyway.

Didn't Russia ask to join at some point around then for someone (us pres?) to go lol no, you're the entire point of nato?

They're in the nato alliance for peace (iirc the name is something like this) even now though.

[crazy canuck]

I think we were interested in having Russia join NATO back in the 1990s.

Back when the West made the terrible mistake of believing that Liberal Democracy had won and it was inevitable that Russia and the rest of the world would morph into Liberal Democratic states.

[Valmy]

Didn't Russia ask to join at some point around then for someone (us pres?) to go lol no, you're the entire point of nato?

That was back in the USSR days, shortly before they formed the Warsaw Pact.

[Savonarola]

Chinese military base in Cuba? That's a new one.

I assume he's referring to the recent revelation about a Chinese listening post in Cuba; which is, of course, not a military base and, (since I read about it on CNN, I assume) not secret.

[Savonarola]

I don't think most of Europe is interested in an anti-Chinese alliance anyway.  Russia certainly isn't.  It's distressing that a congressman is so ignorance of international affairs.

If that's Gaetz's biggest flaw, he's much better than I thought.   

[HisMajestyBOB]

I don't think most of Europe is interested in an anti-Chinese alliance anyway.  Russia certainly isn't.  It's distressing that a congressman is so ignorance of international affairs.

I wouldn't say he's totally ignorant of international affairs. I think one of his underage mistresses was a non-US citizen, after all.

[viper37]

This is going to be the fight of the century.  Forget about Musk vs Zuck, this is the real deal

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-boebert-fightfight-b2376731.html?utm_source=reddit.com

[Syt]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/floridas-new-education-standards-says-slavery-had-personal-benefits/

Florida's new Black history curriculum says "slaves developed skills" that could be used for "personal benefit"

Florida's 2023 Social Studies curriculum will include lessons on how "slaves developed skills" that could be used for "personal benefit," according to a copy of the state's academic standards reviewed by CBS News.

The lessons in question fall under the social studies curriculum's African-American studies section, and be taught to students in sixth through eighth grade, according to the state standards.

The lessons for that grade level will include teachings on understanding the "causes, courses and consequences of the slave trade in the colonies," and instruction on the differences and similarities between serfdom and slavery, the curriculum says. Students will also be asked to describe "the contact of European explorers with systematic slave trading in Africa" and look at the history and evolution of slave codes.

The line about "personal benefit" is included as a "benchmark clarification" to a lesson that asks students to "examine the various duties and trades performed by slaves," such as agricultural work, domestic service, blacksmithing and household tasks like tailoring and painting.

The curriculum was approved by Florida's board of education on Wednesday.

Vice President Kamala Harris called the lesson plan an attempt to "gaslight" students.

"They insult us in an attempt to gaslight us and we will not stand for it," she said in a speech at Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Inc.'s national convention in Indiana on Thursday. "We who share a collective experience in knowing we must honor history in our duty in the context of legacy. There is so much at stake in this moment."

On Friday afternoon, Harris tweeted that she was traveling to Jacksonville to "fight back" against "extremists in Florida who want to erase our full history and censor our truths." According to CBS Miami, Harris is expected to "forcefully condemn" the curriculum.

Florida governor Ron DeSantis, a 2024 presidential hopeful, dismissed Harris' criticism of the curriculum.

"Democrats like Kamala Harris have to lie about Florida's educational standards to cover for their agenda of indoctrinating students and pushing sexual topics onto children. Florida stands in their way and we will continue to expose their agenda and their lies," tweeted DeSantis, whose political platform has included statements against alleged "woke ideology" in schools.

Two members of the work group who established the curriculum standards said in a statement to CBS News that they "proudly stand behind" the language of the lessons.

"The intent of this particular benchmark clarification is to show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefitted. This is factual and well documented," said Dr. William Allen and Dr. Frances Presley Rice, members of the group, before listing examples like Crispus Attucks and Booker T. Washington. "Any attempt to reduce slaves to just victims of oppression fails to recognize their strength, courage and resiliency during a difficult time in American history. Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants."

Allen and Rice said that the curriculum provides "comprehensive and rigorous instruction on African American History."

"It is disappointing, but nevertheless unsurprising, that critics would reduce months of work to create Florida's first ever stand-alone strand of African American History Standards to a few isolated expressions without context," the pair said.

Earlier this year, Florida rejected a proposed advanced placement course that would have focused on African American studies. DeSantis called the course, which included lessons on Black queer theory and the prison abolition movement, "indoctrination."

"That is more of ideology being used under the guise of history," DeSantis said in January 2023. "That's what our standards for Black history are. It's just cut and dried history. You learn all the basics, you learn about the great figures, and you know, I view it as American history. I don't view it as separate history."

The Florida Department of Education said in a letter to the College Board, which handles AP courses, that the curriculum was "inexplicably contrary to Florida law and significantly lacks educational value." The College Board, which later posted a revised curriculum that did not include the areas DeSantis criticized, said the department's comments were "slander."

[Valmy]

Which they could have put to good use if Florida's black codes didn't condemn them to poverty?

[viper37]

Which they could have put to good use if Florida's black codes didn't condemn them to poverty?

Yeah, like people don't acquire skills by working?  Or black people in Africa did not acquire skills?  Or free Blacks did not acquire skills?

It's like the GOP does not even care anymore about being the White Supremacist Party.

[DGuller]

Some overweight Jewish inmates of Nazi death camps have been put through a weight loss problem.  Prove me wrong.

[grumbler]

Two members of the work group who established the curriculum standards said in a statement to CBS News that they "proudly stand behind" the language of the lessons.

"The intent of this particular benchmark clarification is to show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefitted. This is factual and well documented," said Dr. William Allen and Dr. Frances Presley Rice, members of the group, before listing examples like Crispus Attucks and Booker T. Washington. "Any attempt to reduce slaves to just victims of oppression fails to recognize their strength, courage and resiliency during a difficult time in American history. Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants."

Kind of appalling that this curriculum was developed by a history professor that doesn't know that Crispus Attucks was not a slave and by a Hollywood screenwriter that isn't aware that Booker T. Washington was only eight years old when slavery ended.

Also kind of appalling that those were the kinds of people DeSantis calls on to write school curricula.

[HVC]

Someone accidentally hit Mitch's pause button again today.

[Valmy]

Someone accidentally hit Mitch's pause button again today.

I would feel sorry for him if he hadn't spent decades being an asshole.

[Sophie Scholl]

Best comment I've seen so far: "Mitch McConnell is taking this anti-woke stuff too far."