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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Sheilbh

Russia had actually signed but not ratified the ICC treaty (a bit like the US) and said on Wednesday they were going to pull out. Presumably they got a little bit notice of what was coming.
Let's bomb Russia!

Legbiter

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 17, 2023, 05:03:13 PMRussia had actually signed but not ratified the ICC treaty (a bit like the US) and said on Wednesday they were going to pull out. Presumably they got a little bit notice of what was coming.

This ICC arrest order must be awkward for Xi Jingping's Kremlin sleepover this weekend. :hmm:
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Threviel

Quote from: Legbiter on March 18, 2023, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 17, 2023, 05:03:13 PMRussia had actually signed but not ratified the ICC treaty (a bit like the US) and said on Wednesday they were going to pull out. Presumably they got a little bit notice of what was coming.

This ICC arrest order must be awkward for Xi Jingping's Kremlin sleepover this weekend. :hmm:

Why?

Legbiter

Ukrainians practicing a combined arms assault on vatnik positions using M113s. Can't wait for the Leopards, Bradleys and CV90s come spring.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1637095837175037954
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celedhring

Quote from: Threviel on March 18, 2023, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on March 18, 2023, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 17, 2023, 05:03:13 PMRussia had actually signed but not ratified the ICC treaty (a bit like the US) and said on Wednesday they were going to pull out. Presumably they got a little bit notice of what was coming.

This ICC arrest order must be awkward for Xi Jingping's Kremlin sleepover this weekend. :hmm:

Why?

Yeah, China doesn't give a fuck.

Legbiter

Quote from: Threviel on March 18, 2023, 12:51:09 PMWhy?

bad optics for them since they're trying to improve their atrocious reputation in Europe after years of wolf-warrior diplomacy. :hmm:
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Sheilbh

Agree. China (and India) aren't even signatories to the ICC so I don't think there's much expectation that they'll care.

More of an issue for Brazil, South Africa, most of Latin America and a big chunk of Africa who have been a bit more neutral so far.
Let's bomb Russia!

grumbler

Quote from: Sheilbh on March 18, 2023, 03:43:06 PMMore of an issue for Brazil, South Africa, most of Latin America and a big chunk of Africa who have been a bit more neutral so far.

Which is why this is awkward for Xi.  Lots of the countries China is wooing care a lot about the ICC.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Josquius

Yeah. China doesn't care about the rules in themselves. They do care a lot about appearances and having one that benefits them most.
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mongers

Ukrainians making good use of US supplied weapons, but I wish they were also using some donated ear defenders.



QuoteUkrainian servicemen fire a M777 howitzer at Russian positions near Bakhmut, eastern Ukraine, on March 17, 2023 [Aris Messinis/AFP]

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Grey Fox

Good. We need to collectively realize that Russia and China intend to change the equation.
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Josquius

Thinking about it, it is kind of ironic to have the polish government take the defending our values line.
If it wasn't Russia invading Ukraine and the obvious historic baggage with Moscow they're pretty clearly far more aligned with the foreign views threatening western civilization.

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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Josquius on March 20, 2023, 03:24:43 AMThinking about it, it is kind of ironic to have the polish government take the defending our values line.
If it wasn't Russia invading Ukraine and the obvious historic baggage with Moscow they're pretty clearly far more aligned with the foreign views threatening western civilization.



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