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Title: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 06, 2013, 06:13:24 PM
I need to get a bunch of certifications for IT stuff. Also, hopefully, one in project management.

Anybody have certs?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on May 06, 2013, 08:45:14 PM
US government mandates certs for their IT positions. I want to create a required cert in the future so people pay me $500-$1000 to take an electronic multiple choice exam every year. :)

I claim credit for:

HP ArcSight Enterprise Security Management, DISA Host Based Security System (HBSS) Administration, Microsoft Certified Information Technology Professional (MCITP): Server Administration, CompTIA Security+, CompTIA Network+, CompTIA A+, Information Technology Infrastructure Library (ITIL) v3 Foundation, Certified Ethical Hacker (CEHv7)
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Jaron on May 06, 2013, 11:52:38 PM
I've noticed all the 'PMP' folks I work with like to jokingly sneak an "i" into their title. Go for that.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: fhdz on May 07, 2013, 01:57:34 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 06, 2013, 06:13:24 PM
I need to get a bunch of certifications for IT stuff. Also, hopefully, one in project management.

Anybody have certs?

PMP will take you a long, long while. Check out Project+ instead maybe?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 07, 2013, 06:16:24 AM
A+ turned into a racket in 2006.  It used to be a lifetime cert, now it's a 3-year recert based on 5-year-old information <_<.  Lot of people seem to just be doing the initial cert and switching up their applications to say when they received the certification; they just don't update the information enough to justify the recert cycle.

Personally, I'm getting ready to do MCSE, Network+, Security+, CCNA and thinking about a bachelor's program to get me on the road to CISSP.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on May 07, 2013, 06:41:46 AM
I have the required experience, education, and took the required training for the PMP but keep putting off scheduling the exam due to never having a break in my massive workload.  I got an email last week from the PMI that my application expired. :blush:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on May 07, 2013, 10:35:28 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 07, 2013, 06:16:24 AM
a bachelor's program to get me on the road to CISSP.
Not sure that is needed. Maybe just read one of the big CISSP books.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 07, 2013, 02:51:10 PM
CISSP is audited for real life experience and stuff Shame.  Taking the exam, which is reputed to be a hellish experience, doesn't necessarily = the certification.

I'm taking Sec+ in two weeks. after that I want to get the Net+, SSCP, Project+, and maybe some MS ones. 
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 07, 2013, 03:02:59 PM
My degree program consists mainly of getting certificates. Got five so far.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on May 07, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 07, 2013, 06:16:24 AM
A+ turned into a racket in 2006.  It used to be a lifetime cert, now it's a 3-year recert based on 5-year-old information <_<.  Lot of people seem to just be doing the initial cert and switching up their applications to say when they received the certification; they just don't update the information enough to justify the recert cycle.
A+ is a joke anyway.  The kinds of jobs you can get with an A+ are usually entry-level, and nobody cares about certs for jobs at that level anyway.  When I was recruiting I never once got a job order that required an A+.  Sometimes it was a "nice to have" but never a requirement.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 07, 2013, 04:20:12 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 07, 2013, 10:35:28 AM
Not sure that is needed. Maybe just read one of the big CISSP books.

The issue is the work experience needed to get in the door.  I've been looking at an Information Security bachelor's program that ends up taking the exam- you get (ISC)2 Associate of Information Security, which can be converted to CISSP once you've got the work experience.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 07, 2013, 05:32:54 PM
How was the Ethical Hacker one? That is oin my list for the short term.  CISSP will wait 6-12 months.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: fhdz on May 07, 2013, 10:20:00 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 07, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
nobody cares about certs for jobs at that level anyway

You must be thinking of Corporate America 2003, not 2013.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Zanza on May 10, 2013, 02:06:13 AM
QuoteInformation Technology Infrastructure Library (ITIL) v3 Foundation
I did that. Seems fairly useless.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Josquius on May 10, 2013, 02:10:29 AM
I studied for the ITIL one but didn't have the money to do it so just did a course in it set by uni. It did seem to be pretty useless stuff.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on May 10, 2013, 05:20:28 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 07, 2013, 05:32:54 PM
How was the Ethical Hacker one? That is oin my list for the short term.  CISSP will wait 6-12 months.
Easy, but I took an older version. Multiple choice common sense crap like Security+ along with memorizing some stuff like port numbers, etc. The "hard" part is the screening process (prove work history in field) and exorbitant fees. IIRC, it cost me $600 total; might be $1100 now.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on May 10, 2013, 05:20:51 AM
Quote from: Zanza on May 10, 2013, 02:06:13 AM
QuoteInformation Technology Infrastructure Library (ITIL) v3 Foundation
I did that. Seems fairly useless.
:yes:
But now required for many positions. :contract:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 10, 2013, 06:29:55 AM
500 if you take on of their classes, 600 otherwise.  I am probably going to take it, more so if a security job opens up I'll have some resume padding.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on May 17, 2013, 02:49:13 AM
I need to update my Microsoft credentials. Should I go for:

MCSE: Server Infrastructure Certification or MCSE: Desktop Infrastructure Certification
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 17, 2013, 05:44:26 AM
Desktop Infrastructure
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 19, 2013, 09:40:40 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 10, 2013, 05:20:51 AM
Quote from: Zanza on May 10, 2013, 02:06:13 AM
QuoteInformation Technology Infrastructure Library (ITIL) v3 Foundation
I did that. Seems fairly useless.
:yes:
But now required for many positions. :contract:
Yes, but why?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on May 20, 2013, 01:39:48 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 19, 2013, 09:40:40 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 10, 2013, 05:20:51 AM
Quote from: Zanza on May 10, 2013, 02:06:13 AM
QuoteInformation Technology Infrastructure Library (ITIL) v3 Foundation
I did that. Seems fairly useless.
:yes:
But now required for many positions. :contract:
Yes, but why?
Screening applicants, patting industry on the back, or even genuinely believing a certified individual is as amazing as the certificate says.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on May 20, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
This Thursday afternoon, I have to attend a company-paid "discussion" led by an "Agile Subject Matter Expert" who is a "Certified ScrumMaster". :lmfao:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 20, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
If you can dodge a bullet, you can dodge a ball.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: fhdz on May 20, 2013, 09:40:37 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 20, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
This Thursday afternoon, I have to attend a company-paid "discussion" led by an "Agile Subject Matter Expert" who is a "Certified ScrumMaster". :lmfao:

That means he's qualified to lead quick standup meetings and enforce a "release-early-and-often" schedule.

Because no one without those certifications can perform those tasks, apparently.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 12, 2013, 07:18:28 AM
Net+ and Sec+ out of the way. ITIL-F is tomorrow and SSCP is next week. After that I plan on getting the CEH; CCNA; MCSA 2012; Windows 7 Whateverhtefuckitisthisyear; and maybe eventually the CISM or CISSP and the entry level Linux ones.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on June 13, 2013, 09:10:56 PM
What jobs will you later apply for?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 13, 2013, 09:36:45 PM
Welp, I'm pulling the trigger and working on my bachelor's, which should culminate in me also taking the CISSP in hopefully a year and a half or so.  I'll probably do Net+, Sec+, and hopefully CCNA in the meantime.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on June 13, 2013, 09:38:50 PM
I took a 1-week CCNA boot camp a few months ago (somebody else paid for it), but never got around to taking the exam.  :blush:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 13, 2013, 09:44:16 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 13, 2013, 09:38:50 PM
I took a 1-week CCNA boot camp a few months ago (somebody else paid for it), but never got around to taking the exam.  :blush:

Never had the opportunity at community college- the professor who handled all the networking classes was fired for watching porn on his computer during class, not realizing it was feeding to the projector. :lol:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 14, 2013, 07:05:08 AM
I took the CCNA bootcamp many years ago with severence money after getting laid off.  Missed the cert by one question.  Then I got a job and didn't bother taking it again.

I'm thinking of either security or maybe moving up to the enterprise level here at my current employer for virtualization and MS stuff.  Security might be better long term.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on June 14, 2013, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 13, 2013, 09:38:50 PM
I took a 1-week CCNA boot camp a few months ago (somebody else paid for it), but never got around to taking the exam.  :blush:
That sounds just like me with the PMP. :lol:  Hopefully will have time to finish up the cert this fall.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 15, 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 14, 2013, 07:05:08 AM
I took the CCNA bootcamp many years ago with severence money after getting laid off.  Missed the cert by one question.  Then I got a job and didn't bother taking it again.

I'm thinking of either security or maybe moving up to the enterprise level here at my current employer for virtualization and MS stuff.  Security might be better long term.

Personally, I'm gunning for security for future stability.  Security seems to be more in demand with the larger companies with more inertia and the larger healthcare providers bound to HIPAA strictures.  And, of course, if all else fails, there's the possibility of getting more in-depth with white hat and pen testing and going the public/private contractor route.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 19, 2013, 08:02:39 PM
4-6 weeks to hear back from ISC2.  Bastards.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: MadImmortalMan on June 19, 2013, 11:06:54 PM
I haven't bothered to get any new ones in a while. They're mostly a racket, and I have plenty as it is. Lots of people keep collecting them like pokemon. I think the last one I took was CNA web design, which is a joke because I don't and will never do web development. I've noticed that ethical hacker thing seems to be all the rage these days. It must be super easy to get or something.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Tamas on June 20, 2013, 03:17:07 AM
What's the deal with Prince and Agile? UK Project Management ads all have the hots for them. Are they indeed worthwhile? Which is more?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Josquius on June 20, 2013, 03:58:39 AM
I always see lots of ads about agile. Really don't get the point of a certification for it.
"I have a certificate to prove I can show you half complete work every day! Yey!!"
This certification stuff: <_<
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 20, 2013, 06:06:26 AM
Yeah it is a scam.  But it can be the difference between getting hired and being ShameOneMe.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 20, 2013, 06:18:22 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 19, 2013, 11:06:54 PM
I haven't bothered to get any new ones in a while. They're mostly a racket, and I have plenty as it is. Lots of people keep collecting them like pokemon. I think the last one I took was CNA web design, which is a joke because I don't and will never do web development. I've noticed that ethical hacker thing seems to be all the rage these days. It must be super easy to get or something.
The hacker thing is popular because the DOD IT requirements listed it, and industry likes to follow along I guess.

I don't get this scrum/agile crap though.  Seems like  alot of stupid crap.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 20, 2013, 08:57:10 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 20, 2013, 06:06:26 AM
Yeah it is a scam.  But it can be the difference between getting hired and being ShameOneMe.

It's true. :cry:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on June 20, 2013, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 20, 2013, 06:06:26 AM
Yeah it is a scam.  But it can be the difference between getting hired and being ShameOneMe.
Yeah.  But it's still not really a substitute for relevant experience.  A company might say 'CCNA required' for a position but if you hold the CCNA and have no experience, they still probably won't give you an interview.  FYI we have like 15 infrastructure guys at my company and most of them have no certs at all.  I think our new network architect might have some Cisco certs, but our Director of Infrastructure and Director of Architecture both have none at all (but between them they have about 60 years of experience or so).
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 20, 2013, 12:47:51 PM
That is the good way to handle things.  Working in a state place if a job posting has, "CCNA preferred" or "MCSA required" then anybody without, even if they have more experience or what not is effectively shit outta luck.  A lady retired and her job was posted with a requirement for an MBA.  She has none, just decades of experience, but she'd be barred from even applying for her own job if she had to. 

I'm getting the certs to be safe, for situations like that. And it gives me some structure for my studies.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on July 14, 2013, 12:17:06 PM
I will be taking the MCSA Windows Server 2012 exam this Tuesday. Company will pay for it. :)
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 15, 2013, 05:28:19 AM
Bastard. :(  I don't get professional development.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on July 16, 2013, 06:29:16 PM
Passed the MCSA Windows Server 2012 exam. Now I just need to pass two more exams to get the Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert (MCSE): Desktop Infrastructure title. $300 for all three exams.

Also today charged CompTIA's annual "Continuing Education" fee ($49) to the company.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 17, 2013, 07:09:58 AM
I passed the SSCP.  Waiting for ISC2's process to give me the damn cert.  Gearing up for VCP and MCSA.  All on my own dime.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 17, 2013, 07:46:45 AM
In the meantime, my "professional development" consists of Google and YouTube. :mellow:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 17, 2013, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 19, 2013, 11:06:54 PM
I haven't bothered to get any new ones in a while. They're mostly a racket, and I have plenty as it is. Lots of people keep collecting them like pokemon. I think the last one I took was CNA web design, which is a joke because I don't and will never do web development. I've noticed that ethical hacker thing seems to be all the rage these days. It must be super easy to get or something.

Yeah, they're a racket, but they're also the boxes that need to be checked off in order to get your application past the automated online screening processes.  So they're a racket you've got to play if you want somebody to even see your resume.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 18, 2013, 06:36:48 AM
I've never taken microsoft exams. How were they?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on July 19, 2013, 08:15:20 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 18, 2013, 06:36:48 AM
I've never taken microsoft exams. How were they?
Easy. I have thrice taken courses/labs on Windows Server 2003 and then Windows Server 2008, but if you want to just pass the exams, you can use a practice exam / brain dump: http://www.examcollection.com/
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Zanza on July 20, 2013, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 17, 2013, 07:46:45 AM
In the meantime, my "professional development" consists of Google and YouTube. :mellow:
My professional development consists of doing actual projects and solving real issues.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 20, 2013, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: Zanza on July 20, 2013, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 17, 2013, 07:46:45 AM
In the meantime, my "professional development" consists of Google and YouTube. :mellow:
My professional development consists of doing actual projects and solving real issues.
You should give a seminar.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on July 20, 2013, 11:10:35 AM
Quote from: Zanza on July 20, 2013, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 17, 2013, 07:46:45 AM
In the meantime, my "professional development" consists of Google and YouTube. :mellow:
My professional development consists of doing actual projects and solving real issues.
Show us parts of your resume. :)
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Zanza on July 21, 2013, 03:41:33 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on July 20, 2013, 11:10:35 AM
Quote from: Zanza on July 20, 2013, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 17, 2013, 07:46:45 AM
In the meantime, my "professional development" consists of Google and YouTube. :mellow:
My professional development consists of doing actual projects and solving real issues.
Show us parts of your resume. :)

Certifications:
ITIL V3 Foundation

:P

My employer paid for that and it was a two day course where you could meet some new people, so it wasn't bad. I aced the test, but some of the people in our course were really stressed by it and one even failed. :huh:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 22, 2013, 04:52:37 PM
I did have problems with the ITL, because it was incredibly boring.

But Zanza, if you aren't employed in the field, or if you are but in kind of a rut, professional development like certs and studying independently can make a difference.  Shame has a shot now. If he joins the DoD .
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on July 30, 2013, 01:31:52 PM
Passed today Microsoft exam 70-415: Implementing a Desktop Infrastructure

Now I just need to pass 70-416: Implementing Desktop Application Environments

When I get that last one, I become a Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert (MCSE) in Desktop Infrastructure

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en-us/mcse-desktop-infrastructure-certification.aspx
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 30, 2013, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on July 30, 2013, 01:31:52 PM
Passed today Microsoft exam 70-415: Implementing a Desktop Infrastructure

Now I just need to pass 70-416: Implementing Desktop Application Environments

When I get that last one, I become a Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert (MCSE) in Desktop Infrastructure

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en-us/mcse-desktop-infrastructure-certification.aspx
Are the MS ones hard? Never taken them before.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on July 30, 2013, 02:15:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 30, 2013, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on July 30, 2013, 01:31:52 PM
Passed today Microsoft exam 70-415: Implementing a Desktop Infrastructure

Now I just need to pass 70-416: Implementing Desktop Application Environments

When I get that last one, I become a Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert (MCSE) in Desktop Infrastructure

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en-us/mcse-desktop-infrastructure-certification.aspx
Are the MS ones hard? Never taken them before.

No. Just take the practice exams you can get free online.

With enough familiarity of Windows, a lot of the questions are common sense.

For example, what are the minimum images you need to to deploy Win8 to virtual client computers? ---> boot image and install image
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on August 02, 2013, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on July 30, 2013, 01:31:52 PM
Now I just need to pass 70-416: Implementing Desktop Application Environments

When I get that last one, I become a Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert (MCSE) in Desktop Infrastructure

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en-us/mcse-desktop-infrastructure-certification.aspx

Done. I am now a MCSE. :)

Starting Monday, I begin a 2-week boot camp and then sit for the NetApp Certified Data Management Administrator (NCDA) exam.

http://www.netapp.com/us/services-support/university/certifications/ncda.aspx
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 02, 2013, 08:44:51 PM
You're lucky.  I have to supply my own training and exam costs. :( :( :( : (
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on August 02, 2013, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 02, 2013, 08:44:51 PM
You're lucky.  I have to supply my own training and exam costs. :( :( :( : (
Well this is my first employer/site that pays for exam costs/fees for anything IT-related. Thus, I am milking it for as much as possible. But the first 5 years of my IT career, I spent up to $2000 on certifications.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 05, 2013, 10:57:13 PM
I thought you were in the army  :huh:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 15, 2013, 07:16:13 AM
Thinking about getting a CCENT and a COMPTIA Green IT cert because I feel like it.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 07, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
Failed the CEH by 1%.  I feel both stupid and depressed. 
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: merithyn on October 07, 2013, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 07, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
Failed the CEH by 1%.  I feel both stupid and depressed.

:hug:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 10, 2013, 08:05:38 PM
VMWare associate stuff for workplace mobility and virtual dater center. 
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2013, 08:35:55 PM
Just out of curiosity, how much virtualization is there really in the education sector?  It seems like a lot of the education applications are database-driven, and those are a pretty poor choice for virtualization, since they don't really share well when it comes to hogging system resources.

Unless you're doing some kind of weird thing going the other way trying to get discrete machines to look and act like a discrete unit. :unsure:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 17, 2013, 09:02:11 AM
Lots. Plus virtualization is movingonto desktops in my uni.

Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on October 17, 2013, 04:15:31 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2013, 08:35:55 PM
Just out of curiosity, how much virtualization is there really in the education sector?  It seems like a lot of the education applications are database-driven, and those are a pretty poor choice for virtualization, since they don't really share well when it comes to hogging system resources.
:hmm: We virtualize everything.  I don't understand what you mean unless you're commenting on the fact that SQL Server tends to consume all memory available to it which, while true, isn't a problem in a large enough virtual environment.  Our ERP has 48 Gb of RAM allocated to it.  We had been talking about upping that to 192 Gb but it doesn't seem to really need it, so we haven't gotten there yet.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 17, 2013, 05:54:30 PM
Sql runs ok virtualized
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 17, 2013, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 17, 2013, 05:54:30 PM
Sql runs ok virtualized

Possibly.  I'd imagine it's got a lot to do with how normalized the tables are.  I'd imagine a 3NF database would work okay in a virtualized environment, but 5NF would damn near grind the system to a halt.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 21, 2013, 08:50:10 AM
Scaling is the only issue.  If you have a large SQL database with a great deal of transactions you will obviously need a lot of resources allocated to that VM.  There are tools that can be used to get an idea of what resources are needed. Also, if your VM is stored on a POS appliance, yes, it'll run like shit.  Just a matter of finding the right equipment.  Most of my databases are pretty small, so having things run off a cruddy NAS with 8gb of RAM is just fine.  For a large Exchange environment or something you will probably want fast drives with fiber.  Or something. SQL (or any other databases) will run fine virtualized.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on October 22, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 07, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
Failed the CEH by 1%.  I feel both stupid and depressed. 
So is that exam money lost? :wacko:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 23, 2013, 07:16:43 AM
Toast yo.  They are being very persnickity about retaking it too for some reason. 

Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on November 26, 2013, 09:24:47 AM
took the CWTS exam and passed it. Should take the Certified Wireless Network Admin exam at some point, but will probably get a CCNA instead.  Am taking the VCP5-DCV in a few hours.  looks like a tough exam.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: MadImmortalMan on December 16, 2013, 05:14:12 AM
I'm nuts and wouldn't hire any of you assholes based on your cert scores.

But I might be the only one left.

Good luck chaps.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 16, 2013, 07:02:34 AM
Everybody's like, ZOMG U HAFF TO GO INTO CYBERSECURITY THATS WHERE ALL THE JOBS IS, but I can't seem to figure out which ones didn't require a baseline of compu-knowledge that comes with a BA in Computer Science, or years of working in it.

What's the best kind of IT cert for non-IT pipple, i.e., not a language freak or Zuckerman script kiddie?  Network shit?  Hardware stuff?  Forensics?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Grey Fox on December 16, 2013, 08:11:00 AM
From my position, I'd say Network shit but even there you'll need to learn some basic script writing.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 16, 2013, 08:19:35 AM
My problem is, since all my IT experience has revolved around physical security integration, I only know how that particular technology descends into IT, such as IP stuff, server architecture, etc.;  it's all from a top-down perspective. I don't really know anything more than that. 

So, when somebody says ZOMG U HAFF TO GO INTO CYBERSECURITY, I'm pretty sure I don't have the tools to do so.  I look at some of these certs and what's involved, and I don't know what the hell most of it is. CompTIA? TIA+?  Plus what?  WTF?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 16, 2013, 10:10:48 AM
I have a CompTIA Security+ cert. Can I has job?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on December 17, 2013, 08:18:45 AM
Its mostly just a bunch of crap so the Caligas and their industry collaborators can make money off of us. 
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on December 17, 2013, 02:59:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 16, 2013, 08:19:35 AM
it's all from a top-down perspective. I don't really know anything more than that. 

Sounds like you'd be good at management then.


There are 6 class certificate programs offered at colleges and universities. You might be better off taking a networking program and then an information security program.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on May 06, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Here is a recent 2137-question practice for CISSP :  http://www.examcollection.com/isc/ISC.Actualtests.CISSP.v2014-04-15.by.AMBER.2137q.vce.file.html

Valid?


BTW, I became a NetApp Certified Data Management Administrator (NCDA) last month. :D
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 06, 2014, 09:29:48 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 06, 2014, 08:15:06 PM
Here is a recent 2137-question practice for CISSP :  http://www.examcollection.com/isc/ISC.Actualtests.CISSP.v2014-04-15.by.AMBER.2137q.vce.file.html

Valid?


BTW, I became a NetApp Certified Data Management Administrator (NCDA) last month. :D

Now, if only Google could provide the 3 years of in-field experience necessary for CISSP. ;)
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 23, 2014, 01:27:25 PM
Passed VCP.  On to MCSA. And maybe the VCP-View.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on July 25, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
I am currently studying for the Project Management Professional (PMP) certification. My company's President gave me a 2-month deadline. :(
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 26, 2014, 10:06:59 AM
Yeah, I looked into that one, as you can't get a PM job without any certs.  $1700 for the cert course.  I would've pursued it while I was employed, but I was TOO BUSY FUCKING MANAGING PROJECTS.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 26, 2014, 10:12:38 AM
That would be a good one to have.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on July 30, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 26, 2014, 10:12:38 AM
That would be a good one to have.
Agree.  Unfortunately I'm in the same boat now that Money was in earlier.  I've taken the mandatory training and have way more than the minimum required PM experience, but no time to study and actually pass the damn exam.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on July 30, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
I've heard that it is a nightmare. I was looking into some of the lower level Project Management certs, but they don't seem to be worth the effort as they have little weight in most industry. 

I'm on to MCSA and VCP-Desktop. Most of our stuff will be moving into a big central cloud at another campus, but we are keeping the virtual desktop stuff local.  Need to carve a nitch out for myself.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on July 31, 2014, 04:57:19 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 30, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
I've heard that it is a nightmare. I was looking into some of the lower level Project Management certs, but they don't seem to be worth the effort as they have little weight in most industry. 
They're not.  Nobody cares about them at all.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 31, 2014, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 30, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
Need to carve a nitch out for myself.

I did.  Unfortunately, it was analog.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Norgy on August 02, 2014, 11:42:20 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 16, 2013, 07:02:34 AM
Everybody's like, ZOMG U HAFF TO GO INTO CYBERSECURITY THATS WHERE ALL THE JOBS IS, but I can't seem to figure out which ones didn't require a baseline of compu-knowledge that comes with a BA in Computer Science, or years of working in it.

What's the best kind of IT cert for non-IT pipple, i.e., not a language freak or Zuckerman script kiddie?  Network shit?  Hardware stuff?  Forensics?

I was considering something along these lines not all that long ago. I found that if you want some sort of useful certification, that BA pretty much is required. All I had was classes in Java (that's really great for security, innit), web development and web design. No certification for me.

Computer forensics, I understand, takes quite extensive knowledge. But how good are these people at normal, physical security? The IT sector will always need sub-contractors for other stuff. Even if it's just writing comprehensible pieces of sentences strung together.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 02, 2014, 11:46:18 AM
Physical security is part of high level security certs.  Even if it is knowing what to take into account and what works and doesn't work. 
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on August 19, 2014, 06:56:42 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on July 25, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
I am currently studying for the Project Management Professional (PMP) certification. My company's President gave me a 2-month deadline. :(
Fuck the deadline. Company is going ahead and moving me to a Project Manager position end of next week. :o
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 19, 2014, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on August 19, 2014, 06:56:42 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on July 25, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
I am currently studying for the Project Management Professional (PMP) certification. My company's President gave me a 2-month deadline. :(
Fuck the deadline. Company is going ahead and moving me to a Project Manager position end of next week. :o
Uh... yays?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Vricklund on August 21, 2014, 10:16:20 AM
A project manager that doesn't give a fuck about deadlines. I foresee an upcoming conflict.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on September 17, 2014, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 16, 2013, 07:02:34 AM
Everybody's like, ZOMG U HAFF TO GO INTO CYBERSECURITY THATS WHERE ALL THE JOBS IS, but I can't seem to figure out which ones didn't require a baseline of compu-knowledge that comes with a BA in Computer Science, or years of working in it.

Unfortunately, that is the nature of the industry[1].  Companies want consultants who understand the guts of hardware and software security flaws.  You can't build an effective, comprehensive security plan without it.

[1] At least the jobs that aren't cushy payola for well-connected people.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 17, 2014, 08:05:25 PM
MCSA prep.  Tech Net is tens of thousands of pages of drek.  ANy one of which could find its way into a question.  FUCK.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on September 19, 2014, 08:59:10 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 17, 2014, 08:05:25 PM
MCSA prep.  Tech Net is tens of thousands of pages of drek.  ANy one of which could find its way into a question.  FUCK.
Just go get a brain dump...
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 20, 2014, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on September 19, 2014, 08:59:10 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 17, 2014, 08:05:25 PM
MCSA prep.  Tech Net is tens of thousands of pages of drek.  ANy one of which could find its way into a question.  FUCK.
Just go get a brain dump...
I don't think those work for modern MS exams. 

Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Josquius on October 10, 2014, 01:44:26 PM
My work may be paying for me to get some training in.
SAP is the one that was forefront of my mind but I've heard mutterings of Salesforce as the up and comer which is low on qualified people...though it relies on something called Apex which seems much too close to Java for my liking.
Anyone got any experience in this area?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 12, 2014, 03:09:10 AM
We need to start rebelling against the certs. It's getting to be like bad college debt now. Certified ethical hacker? WTF is this nonsense anyway?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 12, 2014, 07:27:51 AM
I concur.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2014, 11:27:14 AM
Too late.  Industries feed themselves.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Iormlund on October 12, 2014, 02:20:54 PM
I wonder why certs don't seem to be very popular in my line of work. The closest thing I've done is taking Siemens Solution Partner exams, but the program is linked to the employer, not employees (and it's more random than hard).
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on November 21, 2014, 09:10:35 AM
free MS vouchers:
https://vouchers.cloudapp.net/mcp/default.aspx

passed CEH.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on December 25, 2014, 12:41:36 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 21, 2014, 09:10:35 AM
free MS vouchers:
https://vouchers.cloudapp.net/mcp/default.aspx

passed CEH.
Damn. Promotion ended. :(
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on December 25, 2014, 07:37:50 AM
I'm hoping to score an MCSA Office 360 on Monday. Then a VCP-DT on Tuesday. Yays for vouchers.  I scheduled the Azure exam but its a fair drive and don't know if its worth it just to fail.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on December 30, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
My lucky streak went off the rails and from there into the ravine of exam failure.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Phillip V on December 30, 2014, 10:36:42 PM
I has been more than 1.5 years since you started this endeavour... when is the end point? :(
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on December 31, 2014, 01:37:54 PM
When I get bored enough to quit.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Zanza on January 04, 2015, 01:31:33 PM
I'll do a SAP training in February. Maybe I can do some more later in the year. Not sure if I get a certificate though.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on March 30, 2015, 05:54:19 PM
Just finished the MCSE Servah Infrastructure.

I'll talk to the boss to see what they'd spring for next. I'm thinking a MCSA for Office 365 since the cloud is where its at. Or another VMware one.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on March 31, 2015, 01:11:15 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 30, 2015, 05:54:19 PM
Just finished the MCSE Servah Infrastructure.

I'll talk to the boss to see what they'd spring for next. I'm thinking a MCSA for Office 365 since the cloud is where its at. Or another VMware one.
You should go to VMWorld so you can hang out with some of my homeboys.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 01, 2015, 07:04:06 AM
Love to. But it is expensive, and only the boss and senior engineer are allowed to go unless I paid my own way. Which ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on April 01, 2015, 04:12:18 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 01, 2015, 07:04:06 AM
Love to. But it is expensive, and only the boss and senior engineer are allowed to go unless I paid my own way. Which ain't gonna happen.
:hmm: Get a job at a non-poor company?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 01, 2015, 04:32:13 PM
Then I'd have to commute to Boston or Cambridge.  I'd never survive that for long.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on December 07, 2018, 05:32:33 PM
I'm a PMP now bitches  :showoff:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Barrister on December 08, 2018, 01:22:57 AM
Quote from: Caliga on December 07, 2018, 05:32:33 PM
I'm a PMP now bitches  :showoff:

So is my brother.  He's been mostly unemployed the last 3 years. :huh:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on December 08, 2018, 01:04:45 PM
I've been mostly employed (well, entirely employed) for my entire adult life other than two weeks when I got laid off once till I started my next job. :sleep:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: garbon on December 08, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
Beebs is a Debbie downer. Congrats, Cal! :cheers:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on December 08, 2018, 04:37:40 PM
Emily got mad when I said that the PMP is the CPA of the project management world.

Yeah, it's not as hard to get as a CPA but my point still stands. :contract:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on February 21, 2019, 04:37:17 PM
Ok, so now that I have my PMP it's time to start thinking about my next cert. :)

Does anyone have any of the ITIL certifications? :hmm:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on March 03, 2019, 05:10:45 PM
I think I will be pursuing either a COBIT or an ITIL cert next.

Also thanks for the feedback bitches  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Grey Fox on March 14, 2019, 10:04:23 AM
You are the certificates master, we have no feedback to give.

You are part of the problem.  :mad:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Tamas on March 14, 2019, 10:06:57 AM
Actuallly that's a good topic. I have an ITIL v3 Foundation cert but it is rather old. Does it worth going for the one higher level, or if I stop there I might as well just shouldn't bother?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on March 15, 2019, 03:48:47 PM
One of my co-workers in Chicago has both COBIT and ITIL (foundation level) and I meant to talk to him about this when I was up there last week, but predictably he was out that week. :rolleyes:

Dude's wife is Brazilian and it seems like they go there like once a month...
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on March 15, 2019, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: Tamas on March 14, 2019, 10:06:57 AM
Actuallly that's a good topic. I have an ITIL v3 Foundation cert but it is rather old. Does it worth going for the one higher level, or if I stop there I might as well just shouldn't bother?
Also FYI ITIL is only on to v4 these days, so it seems like you're not THAT far behind.

There's a new ITIL master level cert but it's supposed to be extremely difficult to get, as in you basically have to be a CIO/CTO/CISO to qualify for it, and as those dudes are typically going to be at the pinnacle of their careers I am not sure why they'd waste time and money getting it? :hmm:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on November 04, 2019, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 15, 2019, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: Tamas on March 14, 2019, 10:06:57 AM
Actuallly that's a good topic. I have an ITIL v3 Foundation cert but it is rather old. Does it worth going for the one higher level, or if I stop there I might as well just shouldn't bother?
Also FYI ITIL is only on to v4 these days, so it seems like you're not THAT far behind.

There's a new ITIL master level cert but it's supposed to be extremely difficult to get, as in you basically have to be a CIO/CTO/CISO to qualify for it, and as those dudes are typically going to be at the pinnacle of their careers I am not sure why they'd waste time and money getting it? :hmm:
ITIL gives out flair like lapel pins and shit.  The ITIL Overloards are like SCRUM 5th Level Masters and shit.  For people who already have a Porsche and need something else to brag about.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on February 26, 2021, 08:30:07 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 07, 2018, 05:32:33 PM
I'm a PMP now bitches  :showoff:
I got elected to the Board of Directors. :sleep:

I was in an all day leadership meeting today and the PMI bigwigs are rolling all this new shit out.  Basically, they are offering like a kiddie cert for grade schools now and some Citizen Developer thing.  They all sound like good ideas to me but I hope the core certification programs don't get diluted. :hmm:

Also, there was a white dude on the call from Jamaica and he had the Jamaican accent... so weird to hear a white guy with that accent and accept he's not doing some sort of racist impersonation. :wacko:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on March 09, 2021, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 26, 2021, 08:30:07 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 07, 2018, 05:32:33 PM
I'm a PMP now bitches  :showoff:
I got elected to the Board of Directors. :sleep:

I was in an all day leadership meeting today and the PMI bigwigs are rolling all this new shit out.  Basically, they are offering like a kiddie cert for grade schools now and some Citizen Developer thing.  They all sound like good ideas to me but I hope the core certification programs don't get diluted. :hmm:

Also, there was a white dude on the call from Jamaica and he had the Jamaican accent... so weird to hear a white guy with that accent and accept he's not doing some sort of racist impersonation. :wacko:
Did he have dreads?  Because that'd be awesome.


Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on March 09, 2021, 11:02:17 PM
Alas, no.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 29, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
I'm supposed to get another certificate for work.  I guess an Azure one.  Blagh
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on April 29, 2021, 09:25:31 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 29, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
I'm supposed to get another certificate for work.  I guess an Azure one.  Blagh
So they just told you to get another cert and they don't care which one? :hmm:
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 30, 2021, 08:32:54 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 29, 2021, 09:25:31 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 29, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
I'm supposed to get another certificate for work.  I guess an Azure one.  Blagh
So they just told you to get another cert and they don't care which one? :hmm:
It couldn't be a free one, like a certificate in bed making.  My boss suggested Azure since we use Azure.  But it was apparently, "everyone gets a certificate in something."

Fuck.  I've driven my career into a dead end, and this just means extra work without any reward.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on April 30, 2021, 08:40:39 AM
What all certs do you have now?
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 30, 2021, 09:01:58 AM
A basic AWS one, an MCSE, a VCP (old one), ITIL Foundation

I let the security ones slip as there was no benefit in keeping them. THough I should get the Security+ back in case I do come across a job that looks interesting.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Caliga on April 30, 2021, 10:33:20 AM
Was ITIL Foundation hard?  I was looking at getting that one before the pandemic started screwing my schedule/work all up.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 30, 2021, 02:51:59 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 30, 2021, 10:33:20 AM
Was ITIL Foundation hard?  I was looking at getting that one before the pandemic started screwing my schedule/work all up.
Not really.  It was a long time ago now.  I remember it being kind of challenging just because of all the overlapping roles. I used a couple of books to study.  I think it is good resume fodder.  Its like magical even if it is rarely ever implemented properly.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: DontSayBanana on April 30, 2021, 09:39:51 PM
Just re-upped my Network+, guess I'm choosing to see it as a refresher in cert prep before my CCNA- I'd intended to sit it out until Pearson started opening up in-person testing again, but I've stalled long enough and still don't see any solid guesses when that'll happen.
Title: Re: Certifications
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on May 01, 2021, 10:41:04 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 30, 2021, 09:39:51 PM
Just re-upped my Network+, guess I'm choosing to see it as a refresher in cert prep before my CCNA- I'd intended to sit it out until Pearson started opening up in-person testing again, but I've stalled long enough and still don't see any solid guesses when that'll happen.
September. 

Fuck Pearson.