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Title: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 07:44:35 PM

Two weeks to Deer season and a about a month til Elk season.

I know that probably bothers some of you sandle wearing tree hugging hippies.  :moon:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Scipio on September 28, 2011, 07:47:44 PM
The only thing that bothers me about this is that I live in an Elk-free land, except those racist fuckers over in Petal with the funny hats.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 07:56:22 PM
Quote from: Scipio on September 28, 2011, 07:47:44 PM
The only thing that bothers me about this is that I live in an Elk-free land, except those racist fuckers over in Petal with the funny hats.

I read about 10 years ago they were trying to reestablish a elk heard in the NE. I kind of lost track of it over the years.

http://ncsparks.com/pennsylvania/elk.php

SE here

http://www.nps.gov/grsm/naturescience/elk.htm

Slow cook Elk Roast in a crockpot. Eat with some Horseradish. Isnt anything better
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Neil on September 28, 2011, 08:03:07 PM
The only people who don't favour deer hunting are foreign assholes.  Those things are like rats, and a hazard to transport due to their numbers and lack of predators.

The lives of some deer are worth less than the lives of the humans that they critically endanger.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on September 28, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
I saw some deer near the park while jogging a few days ago. :)
A doe and a smaller one, possibly its fawn.

Also, it saddens me that venison isn't allowed to be sold in stores around here. I want to eat it, but I'm not a good enough shot to go hunting (nor can I afford it).
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Razgovory on September 28, 2011, 08:54:58 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 07:44:35 PM

Two weeks to Deer season and a about a month til Elk season.

I know that probably bothers some of you sandle wearing tree hugging hippies.  :moon:

In Missouri it was the conservationists who brought deer back to state.  In the early '20's it was believed that Missouri only had a deer population of around 400.  Now they are everywhere.  I don't know if there are any elk in Missouri.  I haven't seen any, but that doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Caliga on September 28, 2011, 08:56:42 PM
We have an elk herd in Kentucky, and yes you can hunt them.  I think the hunting season is rather ridiculous though, like our bear season (which lasts two days, or one day if more than 5 bears or something like that are bagged on day 1).
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Caliga on September 28, 2011, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 28, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
Also, it saddens me that venison isn't allowed to be sold in stores around here. I want to eat it, but I'm not a good enough shot to go hunting (nor can I afford it).
If prepared correctly, venison is delicious. :mmm:

I have deer in my yard fairly often.  I can't legally shoot at them though since I lack a centerfire rifle.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 28, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 07:44:35 PM

Two weeks to Deer season and a about a month til Elk season.

I know that probably bothers some of you sandle wearing tree hugging hippies.  :moon:

I do not oppose good venison jerky on principle.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Barrister on September 28, 2011, 10:20:22 PM
I miss living in the Yukon, where I could occasionally score moose meat from friends.

On the other hand, I do have some ground elk meat sitting in my freezer purchased from the farmer's market. :shifty:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on September 28, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 28, 2011, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 28, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
Also, it saddens me that venison isn't allowed to be sold in stores around here. I want to eat it, but I'm not a good enough shot to go hunting (nor can I afford it).
If prepared correctly, venison is delicious. :mmm:

I have deer in my yard fairly often.  I can't legally shoot at them though since I lack a centerfire rifle.

My dad has a Mosin-Nagant. I'm not sure if hunting with it is allowed or not...  :hmm:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 28, 2011, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 28, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
Also, it saddens me that venison isn't allowed to be sold in stores around here. I want to eat it, but I'm not a good enough shot to go hunting (nor can I afford it).
If prepared correctly, venison is delicious. :mmm:

I have deer in my yard fairly often. 

Same here. Usually 6-7 at one time. I have three apple trees and they dig that. I could pop one of them as I live in a county area. But, I have made my property a "DMZ" so to speak. They are free to roam w/o getting assassinated.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 28, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 28, 2011, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 28, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
Also, it saddens me that venison isn't allowed to be sold in stores around here. I want to eat it, but I'm not a good enough shot to go hunting (nor can I afford it).
If prepared correctly, venison is delicious. :mmm:

I have deer in my yard fairly often.  I can't legally shoot at them though since I lack a centerfire rifle.

My dad has a Mosin-Nagant. I'm not sure if hunting with it is allowed or not...  :hmm:

Check local regs. Use a soft point bullet of course. I use/ have used my sporterized '03 Springfield 30-06 and a sporterized Kraig 30-40.

Last deer I shot was with a sporterized '96 Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: PRC on September 28, 2011, 11:08:24 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 07:44:35 PM

Two weeks to Deer season and a about a month til Elk season.

I know that probably bothers some of you sandle wearing tree hugging hippies.  :moon:

I think the general vibe of the eco-warriors is that hunting for your own meat is a good thing as it's sustainable, it's not buying factory farmed meat from a mega-store, etc.  PETA will be up in arms against it of course, but generally speaking i think most of the hippies are for it.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Jacob on September 28, 2011, 11:16:51 PM
I don't think there are many hippies on languish.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Neil on September 28, 2011, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 28, 2011, 11:16:51 PM
I don't think there are many hippies on languish.
They wouldn't last long.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 11:38:16 PM
Quote from: PRC on September 28, 2011, 11:08:24 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 28, 2011, 07:44:35 PM

Two weeks to Deer season and a about a month til Elk season.

I know that probably bothers some of you sandle wearing tree hugging hippies.  :moon:

I think the general vibe of the eco-warriors is that hunting for your own meat is a good thing as it's sustainable, it's not buying factory farmed meat from a mega-store, etc.  PETA will be up in arms against it of course, but generally speaking i think most of the hippies are for it.
True. I ran into some of the PETA fundies back in '94-'95 when I was moonlighting as a "Wild Life Assassin" (as they called me) for Northwest Trek the first time I was stationed in Washington.

Long story short. I was contracted by the park to thin the exploding white tail deer herd. The white tails were breeding with the black tails. They had deformaties and such. After closing, myself and the curator would hop in his little truck. He would point out the ones he wanted taken out. We'd bag them and take them over to the wolf areas. Later when they got two Grizzly's at the park, we would take the shot deer over to their cages.

Let me tell you the movies do no justice to the damage a Griz can do and they werent even full grown.

PETA was protesting outside the gate. Problem was, the state would not let the park release the white tails into the wild. Upset the ecosystem or some shit. The state would also not pay for state/federal animal damage control to come in. Catch 22 for the park. Hence where I come in.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Valmy on September 28, 2011, 11:39:44 PM
Hunting is a sport for gentlemen  :bowler:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 12:00:07 AM
Some animals I have no desire to hunt. Bear, Big Cats, Elephant, rhino.

I wish they would transplant Mbogo herds in the southeast US. To thin the redneck s

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F6%2F66%2FSerengeti_Bueffel1.jpg%2F800px-Serengeti_Bueffel1.jpg&hash=751202b3d0662ca760a834be11520bb5f65df244)

"Hey Lee Roy, you see the size of that ..(trample)...(trample)...." :lmfao:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Brazen on September 29, 2011, 03:29:56 AM
Send me some venison plzkthx. I like it like my men - well hung.

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 28, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
Also, it saddens me that venison isn't allowed to be sold in stores around here. I want to eat it, but I'm not a good enough shot to go hunting (nor can I afford it).
Really? You can get it in most supermarkets here.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Josquius on September 29, 2011, 03:44:50 AM
Deer is tasty and they do need their population controlled nonetheless people who take pleasure in killing things have something wrong with them.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: The Larch on September 29, 2011, 07:07:09 AM
I have deer and boar cold cuts in my fridge right now.  :) Pepper coated salchichón, mmmm.  :mmm:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 07:09:54 AM
Quote from: The Larch on September 29, 2011, 07:07:09 AM
I have deer and boar cold cuts in my fridge right now.  :) Pepper coated salchichón, mmmm.  :mmm:

Tasty vittles there.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Grey Fox on September 29, 2011, 07:12:22 AM
Around here wild meat taste alot like Fir or other conifers. How is it in the south?
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: The Larch on September 29, 2011, 07:19:39 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 07:09:54 AM
Quote from: The Larch on September 29, 2011, 07:07:09 AM
I have deer and boar cold cuts in my fridge right now.  :) Pepper coated salchichón, mmmm.  :mmm:

Tasty vittles there.

And I also had, bought in the same batch and already consumed, a tray of deer cecina, which was really tasty. Much stronger flavour than beef.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 07:25:11 AM
I do not hunt, but I'm actually very supportive of those that do.  Seems like a worthy hobby and anything that thins out the goddamn deer is a good thing.  According to the Department of Conservation 150 thousand deer are harvested annually in Missouri.  That's a fucking lot.  Also hunters are what make the Department of Conservation what it is, and I like the other services they provide such as nature reserves and the like.  I've had deer burgers a few times, they are tasty. :)
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 07:28:54 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 07:25:11 AM
I do not hunt, but I'm actually very supportive of those that do.  Seems like a worthy hobby and anything that thins out the goddamn deer is a good thing.  According to the Department of Conservation 150 thousand deer are harvested annually in Missouri.  That's a fucking lot.  Also hunters are what make the Department of Conservation what it is, and I like the other services they provide such as nature reserves and the like.  I've had deer burgers a few times, they are tasty. :)

How many can a single hunter take in a season?
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 29, 2011, 07:45:12 AM
Fucking hunters better keep off mah lands.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: viper37 on September 29, 2011, 10:11:29 AM
I don't like hunting and I don't think it's a sport either.  Staying still is not a sport :P

However, I don't mind the hunters.  It's necessary to keep a balance, and humans have always been a predator.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: KRonn on September 29, 2011, 10:33:14 AM
I also used to really look forward to hunting season, deer, ducks/geese, pheasant, grouse. Used to go to Quebec, Isle d'Orleans for the opening of duck season. What a battle field that was, hunters everywhere! Usually Maine for deer, but sometimes any of the New England states. But haven't hunted in years, and doubt that I'll be doing so again. Just lost my desire for it, though I'm fully supportive of those who hunt. I have no problem with it. It's also a lot of work, not usually an easy task to bag something. You have to enjoy just being out there in the woods, or along the waterways, depending what you're hunting. Same with fishing too.

11B4V, where do you hunt elk? Locally in your state (which state)?
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Gups on September 29, 2011, 11:40:32 AM
Does elk taste different to normal deer?
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Barrister on September 29, 2011, 11:43:41 AM
Quote from: Gups on September 29, 2011, 11:40:32 AM
Does elk taste different to normal deer?

Yes.

But I'm not a big fan of venison - been quite gamey from what I've had.  Mind you that's been hunted venison, not farmed.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: MadImmortalMan on September 29, 2011, 11:47:48 AM
I can hunt quail every day in my back yard. Usually I just give 'em a blast with an air rifle so they'll run away and stop eating my grass seed. It makes the feathers fly a lot. I can headshot them and they'll die, but I'm too lazy to pluck the feathers and cook 'em.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Maximus on September 29, 2011, 11:49:29 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2011, 11:43:41 AM
Quote from: Gups on September 29, 2011, 11:40:32 AM
Does elk taste different to normal deer?

Yes.

But I'm not a big fan of venison - been quite gamey from what I've had.  Mind you that's been hunted venison, not farmed.
Yea, same here. It may have something to do with why I can't stand the smell/taste(or texture) of raw meat. Too much butchering as a kid. That smell is associated with shit and viscera which can smell many times worse, and I've never had a strong stomach.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 07:28:54 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 07:25:11 AM
I do not hunt, but I'm actually very supportive of those that do.  Seems like a worthy hobby and anything that thins out the goddamn deer is a good thing.  According to the Department of Conservation 150 thousand deer are harvested annually in Missouri.  That's a fucking lot.  Also hunters are what make the Department of Conservation what it is, and I like the other services they provide such as nature reserves and the like.  I've had deer burgers a few times, they are tasty. :)

How many can a single hunter take in a season?

No idea.  I think it depends on how you hunt them.  I think you can take more with a bow and arrow then you can with a rifle.  Perhaps more if you chase it down and kill it with a rock.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 12:52:39 PM
The type of hunting I don't have a lot of respect for is duck hunting (maybe geese hunting is similar).  Lie in a hidey hole, make them come to you with calls and decoys, then blast the shit out of them when they're close enough.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Barrister on September 29, 2011, 12:59:39 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 12:52:39 PM
The type of hunting I don't have a lot of respect for is duck hunting (maybe geese hunting is similar).  Lie in a hidey hole, make them come to you with calls and decoys, then blast the shit out of them when they're close enough.

How is that different from any other kind of hunting?
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 01:01:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2011, 12:59:39 PM
How is that different from any other kind of hunting?

Other kinds you have to sneak up on them, then get in a shot before they smell your manstench or hear your clumsy mannoise and run away.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 01:08:52 PM
You wouldn't like the way my buddy's native friend hunted deer then. He put a few salt licks on his property. Then he'd sit in a rocking chair on his porch with his gun and shoot them when ever he felt like it.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 01:11:59 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 01:08:52 PM
You wouldn't like the way my buddy's native friend hunted deer then. He put a few salt licks on his property. Then he'd sit in a rocking chair on his porch with his gun and shoot them when ever he felt like it.

I should have specified I'm not impressed with the guys who sit in trees either.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 01:13:41 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 01:11:59 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 01:08:52 PM
You wouldn't like the way my buddy's native friend hunted deer then. He put a few salt licks on his property. Then he'd sit in a rocking chair on his porch with his gun and shoot them when ever he felt like it.

I should have specified I'm not impressed with the guys who sit in trees either.

I just figured it's one step further down your scale when you can step out of your living room in your skivvies, with a cigarette and cup of coffee to pick off the quarry.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 01:15:50 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 01:13:41 PM
I just figured it's one step further down your scale when you can step out of your living room in your skivvies, with a cigarette and cup of coffee to pick off the quarry.

Sure.  It's like if the baby seals waddled up to your EZ chair to get skulled.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 01:01:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2011, 12:59:39 PM
How is that different from any other kind of hunting?

Other kinds you have to sneak up on them, then get in a shot before they smell your manstench or hear your clumsy mannoise and run away.

Most people around here don't hunt like that.  At least in Missouri.  Wandering around the Forrest with a rifle during hunting season seems like a good way to get shot.  Most of the people I know who go hunting use deer blinds the like.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Barrister on September 29, 2011, 01:32:55 PM
I'll confess that the hunters I know are moose hunters, not deer hunters.

But while their stories do involve travelling around (mostly on quads), they also use calls to try and bring the moose to them.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Grey Fox on September 29, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 29, 2011, 01:32:55 PM
I'll confess that the hunters I know are moose hunters, not deer hunters.

But while their stories do involve travelling around (mostly on quads), they also use calls to try and bring the moose to them.

Yeah. You can't wait for a Moose to just come strolling. That would take forever.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: KRonn on September 29, 2011, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 12:52:39 PM
The type of hunting I don't have a lot of respect for is duck hunting (maybe geese hunting is similar).  Lie in a hidey hole, make them come to you with calls and decoys, then blast the shit out of them when they're close enough.
Ducks and geese are pretty smart. If they see you, even at a distance, they won't fly near. Same with any wild game really, you have to use ways to hide, or outsmart them. For deer hunting, one of the most effective ways is mornings and evenings when they're moving to feeding sites. Stand near a known deer trail, keeping hidden and perfectly still (else they will see you before you see them, as they notice movement very well, even with weaker eyes.) Wild turkeys are one of the smarter birds from what I've heard. Hunters are in camoflage outfits to blend in, so as not to spook the birds.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: PRC on September 29, 2011, 02:18:42 PM
Bow hunting is where it's at!
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: KRonn on September 29, 2011, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: PRC on September 29, 2011, 02:18:42 PM
Bow hunting is where it's at!
Never hunted with a bow. But hey, the easiest hunting is at the local grocer, not much effort involved!    :)
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Legbiter on September 29, 2011, 02:59:05 PM
I have some reindeer in the freezer. I keep it next to the minke whale.  :mmm:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Malthus on September 29, 2011, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on September 29, 2011, 02:59:05 PM
I have some reindeer in the freezer. I keep it next to the minke whale.  :mmm:

I thought you guys just buried whale in the sand until it was rotten enough to eat. Or was that fish.  ;)
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Malthus on September 29, 2011, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 29, 2011, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: PRC on September 29, 2011, 02:18:42 PM
Bow hunting is where it's at!
Never hunted with a bow. But hey, the easiest hunting is at the local grocer, not much effort involved!    :)

I think the local grocer would disapprove, and probably so would the police.  ;)
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Legbiter on September 29, 2011, 04:02:16 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 29, 2011, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on September 29, 2011, 02:59:05 PM
I have some reindeer in the freezer. I keep it next to the minke whale.  :mmm:

I thought you guys just buried whale in the sand until it was rotten enough to eat. Or was that fish.  ;)

That's hákarl, fermented shark. An aquired taste to some.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xhfJRdwHnU
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 04:10:01 PM
The Inuit won't even eat that.  And they live in houses made of snow.  They do feed it to their dogs.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Legbiter on September 29, 2011, 04:20:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 04:10:01 PM
The Inuit won't even eat that.  And they live in houses made of snow.  They do feed it to their dogs.

Well, the greenland shark's flesh is a bit lethal when fresh so you have to let it ferment quite a while but after 8-9 months it's quite ready for human consumption. Packs quite a punch in vitamin D and omega 3's.

And some Inuit have an even worse delicacy, fermented seabird.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on September 29, 2011, 04:20:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 04:10:01 PM
The Inuit won't even eat that.  And they live in houses made of snow.  They do feed it to their dogs.

Well, the greenland shark's flesh is a bit lethal when fresh so you have to let it ferment quite a while but after 8-9 months it's quite ready for human consumption. Packs quite a punch in vitamin D and omega 3's.

And some Inuit have an even worse delicacy, fermented seabird.  :hmm:

Yeah, the Inuit prepare it in a similar way to the Icelanders, but they still won't eat it.  They do eat squished auks, but I don't think they are as bad.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on September 29, 2011, 04:31:46 PM
Iceland was in a malthusian crisis several times in the past millenium, especially in the 17th century IIRC; a taste for pickled albatross, rotting shark or whatever is better than the alternative.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 05:03:25 PM
"Can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em" is a sound principle.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 01:11:59 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 01:08:52 PM
You wouldn't like the way my buddy's native friend hunted deer then. He put a few salt licks on his property. Then he'd sit in a rocking chair on his porch with his gun and shoot them when ever he felt like it.

I should have specified I'm not impressed with the guys who sit in trees either.

Big in the South do to vegetation. It's more a matter of nessessity. I never liked it much cause I always fell asleep.  When I hunted in the south, I usually walked a little then sat and watched an area then walked a little. Wash, Rinse and repeat. Last Deer I shot in georgia ('99) was from 30 meters.

Here in western washington esp where I hunt Deer in the Olympics in it thick as hell. I always wonder why they never adapted the southern style tree stand hunting here.

My Elk area is more open. I probably walked 30-35 miles over a few days the last time I went. Elk are fairly easy to track, but the weather was too nice and there was a full moon at nite that year.. I remember that year I was on a ridgeline on a crystal clear November morning. I could see Mt Rainer to the north and St. Hellens to the soth. Quite a sight really.

I always hope for the shittiest weather every year during elk season. The shittier the better.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 06:34:24 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 01:08:52 PM
You wouldn't like the way my buddy's native friend hunted deer then. He put a few salt licks on his property. Then he'd sit in a rocking chair on his porch with his gun and shoot them when ever he felt like it.

Called baiting and is illegal in most states. Key word being native, I would assume mean "American Indian"?? Lazy POS, probably doing it on the Res.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 06:36:40 PM
[quote author=11B4V link=topic=6059.msg319135#msg319135 Called baiting and is illegal in most states. Key word being native, I would assume mean "American Indian"?? Lazy POS, probably doing it on the Res.[/quote]

Yeah it's illegal here too, and yeah that's what I mean by "Native".
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 29, 2011, 10:33:14 AM
I also used to really look forward to hunting season, deer, ducks/geese, pheasant, grouse. Used to go to Quebec, Isle d'Orleans for the opening of duck season. What a battle field that was, hunters everywhere! Usually Maine for deer, but sometimes any of the New England states. But haven't hunted in years, and doubt that I'll be doing so again. Just lost my desire for it, though I'm fully supportive of those who hunt. I have no problem with it. It's also a lot of work, not usually an easy task to bag something. You have to enjoy just being out there in the woods, or along the waterways, depending what you're hunting. Same with fishing too.

11B4V, where do you hunt elk? Locally in your state (which state)?

Washington State. The area north of Mt. St. Helens and south of Riffe Lake.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 06:36:40 PM
[quote author=11B4V link=topic=6059.msg319135#msg319135 Called baiting and is illegal in most states. Key word being native, I would assume mean "American Indian"?? Lazy POS, probably doing it on the Res.

Yeah it's illegal here too, and yeah that's what I mean by "Native".
[/quote]

Not insulting you bud, that shit pisses me off. A few pages back I described that I could essentailly do the same with the Apple trees on my property. Too easy so i give all wildlife on my property a pass. "We're not Savages hear you know."
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 06:36:40 PM
[quote author=11B4V link=topic=6059.msg319135#msg319135 Called baiting and is illegal in most states. Key word being native, I would assume mean "American Indian"?? Lazy POS, probably doing it on the Res.

Yeah it's illegal here too, and yeah that's what I mean by "Native".
[/quote]

Not insulting you bud, that shit pisses me off. A few pages back I described that I could essentailly do the same with the Apple trees on my property. Too easy so i give all wildlife on my property a pass. "We're not Savages hear you know."
[/quote]

I wanted to see if it was possible to fuck up the quoting even more.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Razgovory on September 29, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 05:03:25 PM
"Can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em" is a sound principle.

Or they could just get on a boat and sail away.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 06:49:02 PM
11B4V - Does WA have a deal for active duty and vets?  I know that Gov. Kulongowski in Oregon changed the rules for us - camping, hunting and fishing are fast-tracked and free... :yeah:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 06:49:02 PM
11B4V - Does WA have a deal for active duty and vets?  I know that Gov. Kulongowski in Oregon changed the rules for us - camping, hunting and fishing are fast-tracked and free... :yeah:

Good, question. I really dont know. I look into it and get back to ya. That's pretty bad being I'm a vet and dont know or really paid attention. I just usually go get the license and tags and head to the woods.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 07:07:20 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2011, 06:36:40 PM
[quote author=11B4V link=topic=6059.msg319135#msg319135 Called baiting and is illegal in most states. Key word being native, I would assume mean "American Indian"?? Lazy POS, probably doing it on the Res.

Yeah it's illegal here too, and yeah that's what I mean by "Native".

Not insulting you bud, that shit pisses me off. A few pages back I described that I could essentailly do the same with the Apple trees on my property. Too easy so i give all wildlife on my property a pass. "We're not Savages hear you know."
[/quote]

I wanted to see if it was possible to fuck up the quoting even more.
[/quote]

I never disappoint in that area. :D
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 07:12:26 PM
You're giving Hillary a run for his money Before.

Did Klingonowski call his law "the Rambo Law?"
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 07:18:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 07:12:26 PM
You're giving Hillary a run for his money Before.

Did Klingonowski call his law "the Rambo Law?"

Uh, somehow I doubt it.  He's a vet himself (USMC), and wanted to show Oregonian vets that they were appreciated.
Oregon is a poor state, and couldn't do the free college thing like some others, so he decided to do something that the guys would like and would also be cheap for the state to offer.  No complains here.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Neil on September 29, 2011, 07:40:45 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 07:18:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 07:12:26 PM
You're giving Hillary a run for his money Before.

Did Klingonowski call his law "the Rambo Law?"
Uh, somehow I doubt it.  He's a vet himself (USMC), and wanted to show Oregonian vets that they were appreciated.
Oregon is a poor state, and couldn't do the free college thing like some others, so he decided to do something that the guys would like and would also be cheap for the state to offer.  No complains here.
A poor state, but they still have enough money to give pot to all those potsmokers.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 29, 2011, 07:41:42 PM
QuoteKlingonowski

Polish Klingon?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Oregon a poor state?
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 07:43:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 29, 2011, 07:40:45 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 07:18:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 07:12:26 PM
You're giving Hillary a run for his money Before.

Did Klingonowski call his law "the Rambo Law?"
Uh, somehow I doubt it.  He's a vet himself (USMC), and wanted to show Oregonian vets that they were appreciated.
Oregon is a poor state, and couldn't do the free college thing like some others, so he decided to do something that the guys would like and would also be cheap for the state to offer.  No complains here.
A poor state, but they still have enough money to give pot to all those potsmokers.

Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: sbr on September 29, 2011, 07:49:12 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 29, 2011, 07:40:45 PM
Quote from: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 07:18:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 07:12:26 PM
You're giving Hillary a run for his money Before.

Did Klingonowski call his law "the Rambo Law?"
Uh, somehow I doubt it.  He's a vet himself (USMC), and wanted to show Oregonian vets that they were appreciated.
Oregon is a poor state, and couldn't do the free college thing like some others, so he decided to do something that the guys would like and would also be cheap for the state to offer.  No complains here.
A poor state, but they still have enough money to give pot to all those potsmokers.

Really, who give pot away for free? :huh:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: AnchorClanker on September 29, 2011, 08:00:52 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
Oregon a poor state?

Yes
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 09:37:28 PM
The 358 and Brenneke cleaned, oiled and ready to go.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294188_2380353279452_1569276284_32544716_1033391841_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Octavian on September 30, 2011, 03:41:09 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 09:37:28 PM
The 358 and Brenneke cleaned, oiled and ready to go.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294188_2380353279452_1569276284_32544716_1033391841_n.jpg)

Now you are ready to begin Operation Endearing Freedom.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2011, 06:06:57 AM
Quote from: Octavian on September 30, 2011, 03:41:09 AM
Now you are ready to begin Operation Endearing Freedom.

You mean Operation Endeering Freedom. lolz.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Octavian on September 30, 2011, 10:30:39 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2011, 06:06:57 AM
Quote from: Octavian on September 30, 2011, 03:41:09 AM
Now you are ready to begin Operation Endearing Freedom.

You mean Operation Endeering Freedom. lolz.

Lolz yes...I fail
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Siege on September 30, 2011, 03:24:10 PM
Kosher hunting is hard.
I have to get to my prey before it dies to cut its throat and spill its blood.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: AnchorClanker on September 30, 2011, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on September 30, 2011, 03:24:10 PM
Kosher hunting is hard.
I have to get to my prey before it dies to cut its throat and spill its blood.

Didn't the Turkish Brigade do that for fun during the Korean War?   :contract:   :lol:
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Octavian on September 30, 2011, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: Siege on September 30, 2011, 03:24:10 PM
Kosher hunting is hard.
I have to get to my prey before it dies to cut its throat and spill its blood.

Why risk being shot doing that?

Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Barrister on September 30, 2011, 04:33:52 PM
Hey 11B - I have a pound of ground elk sitting in my freezer - what should I do with it?

I was going to make elk chili, but you're ahrdly going to get any elk taste that way...
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Octavian on September 30, 2011, 04:36:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 30, 2011, 04:33:52 PM
Hey 11B - I have a pound of ground elk sitting in my freezer - what should I do with it?

I was going to make elk chili, but you're ahrdly going to get any elk taste that way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcJjMnHoIBI&ob=av2e (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcJjMnHoIBI&ob=av2e)
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: KRonn on September 30, 2011, 05:03:03 PM
The 358 is a decently heavy caliber. Is it good on longer ranges, flat trajectory, or better for closer in, heavy brush? I think you said you hunt in fairly thick forest, so I assume the ranges are generally not too long? Maybe a one or two hundred yards? Good luck on the hunt.

 
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on September 30, 2011, 05:36:02 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 30, 2011, 04:33:52 PM
Hey 11B - I have a pound of ground elk sitting in my freezer - what should I do with it?

I was going to make elk chili, but you're ahrdly going to get any elk taste that way...

Stew?
Burgers?
Steak?
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 30, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 29, 2011, 09:37:28 PM
The 358 and Brenneke cleaned, oiled and ready to go.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294188_2380353279452_1569276284_32544716_1033391841_n.jpg)

You might want to consider buying shorter jeans bro.
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 30, 2011, 08:14:18 PM
Elk hunting area. St. Helens is about 12 miles SSW

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302442_2383631241399_1569276284_32546626_1584435012_n.jpg)



Deer hunting area. Olympic Nat. Forest. east of Lake Cushman.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302442_2383631281400_1569276284_32546627_1433314756_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on September 30, 2011, 08:16:04 PM
There is elk season in SW Virginia as well, if I don't get one this year it will be my third year in a row without taking an elk.

I did bag 18 deer last season though :).
Title: Re: Almost here!!
Post by: 11B4V on September 30, 2011, 08:27:54 PM
During elk season I'm hoping for nasty weather.