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General Category => Off the Record => Computer Affairs => Topic started by: Syt on October 12, 2009, 01:09:01 PM

Title: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Syt on October 12, 2009, 01:09:01 PM
Just in time, we'll be afforded an advance of our year bonus, plus I've received some vouchers as award, so I can burn ca. 600 EUR on a new computer.

After my recent rather not so happy experience with desktop PCs, I'm looking at laptops.

I'm mostly looking for a system that:
- plays my strategy games (Matrix, AGEOD, OOTP, Civ4, ...) and the occasional action game or Bioware product (though I can use the Xbox360 for that if need be)
- plays videos and music
- runs mid level gfx apps
- is useful for surfing the internet (YouTube, hulu, etc.)

I'm looking at the following system which seems to get favorable user reviews:

MSI Megabook EX623GS-3443VHP

Pentium Dual-Core T3400 2x 2.16GHz • 4096MB (2x 2048MB) • 320GB HD • DVD+/-RW DL • NVIDIA GeForce 9500M GS 512MB • 3x USB 2.0/Firewire/Modem/Gb LAN/WLAN 802.11bgn/eSATA • HDMI • ExpressCard Slot • 3in1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS) • Webcam (2.0 Megapixel) • 16" WXGA glare TFT (1366x768) • Windows Vista Home Premium

... for 590 EUR from a local supplier (620 at Amazon.de - I could claim 75 EUR in vouchers there)
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Syt on October 13, 2009, 12:16:11 AM
... I take it that there are neither strong objections nor endorsements for this, then? :unsure:
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: garbon on October 13, 2009, 12:21:10 AM
I couldn't get past "please advise" which caused me to be ill.  Our outsourcing partners always end lengthy e-mails with "Please advise on these issues." :(
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: DGuller on October 13, 2009, 12:23:10 AM
I don't think a lot of people are well-versed in laptop specs here.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Syt on October 13, 2009, 12:46:43 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 13, 2009, 12:21:10 AM
I couldn't get past "please advise" which caused me to be ill.  Our outsourcing partners always end lengthy e-mails with "Please advise on these issues." :(

I guess I inherited it from the emails I get every day.  :blush:
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 13, 2009, 07:11:22 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 13, 2009, 12:16:11 AM
... I take it that there are neither strong objections nor endorsements for this, then? :unsure:

Not particularly familiar with MSI laptopts; I will tell you, though, that biggest culprits in laptop issues are HDD, optical drive, and wireless- GFX cards are usually custom-built and tested to the laptop manufacturer's specs, so GFX issues in a laptop shouldn't be that common.  If you're not seeing a lot of common reviews that are bitching and moaning about one of those specific kinds of issues, odds are that you're pretty safe.  T3400's a fairly common CPU in laptops, so it seems to have stood up to some standards of stability now.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Zanza on October 13, 2009, 01:24:16 PM
I think the CPU is really, really old.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Barrister on October 13, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
I have a vague impression that laptop seems expensive, but that's based solely on translating Euro into Canadian dollars, and doesn't reflect what electronics cost over there.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Syt on October 14, 2009, 06:52:33 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 13, 2009, 01:24:16 PM
I think the CPU is really, really old.

I found it hard to find anything more current, cpu wise (e.g. a quad core), and if one was available the price went through the roof. However, the user reviews I see around the web are favorable.

Beeb, 600 EUR is an average price for a lower mid range PC/laptop over here. I get two years' manufacturer's warranty on it (provided I don't open the case).
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on October 14, 2009, 07:37:37 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 13, 2009, 01:24:16 PM
I think the CPU is really, really old.

That chip is less than 3 years old and in the "current" generation for laptops, since no Nehalem-based laptops have been released yet (and probably won't until a mobile version is released).
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on October 14, 2009, 08:40:53 AM
Isn't there a thing going on where you get a free upgrade to Windows 7 when you purchase certain versions of Vista?  Does that apply to new computers?  It's not a US only thing is it?

Might be worth it to see if you're eligible for that with this laptop here, Syt.  Damn posting is irritating with the phone.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Caliga on October 14, 2009, 08:42:27 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 14, 2009, 08:40:53 AM
Isn't there a thing going on where you get a free upgrade to Windows 7 when you purchase certain versions of Vista?  Does that apply to new computers?  It's not a US only thing is it?
Yes, yes, dunno.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 14, 2009, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 14, 2009, 08:40:53 AM
Isn't there a thing going on where you get a free upgrade to Windows 7 when you purchase certain versions of Vista?  Does that apply to new computers?  It's not a US only thing is it?

Might be worth it to see if you're eligible for that with this laptop here, Syt.  Damn posting is irritating with the phone.

Yeah.  Home Premium on up to Ultimate; Home Basic isn't eligible.  The manufacturer has to be participating, and the computer has to be purchased between June 2009 and January 2010.  Also, a quick check of Microsoft's website says that MSI is participating for Germany.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Syt on October 15, 2009, 12:37:54 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 14, 2009, 08:40:53 AM
Isn't there a thing going on where you get a free upgrade to Windows 7 when you purchase certain versions of Vista?  Does that apply to new computers?  It's not a US only thing is it?

Might be worth it to see if you're eligible for that with this laptop here, Syt.  Damn posting is irritating with the phone.

I am. Home Premium.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 15, 2009, 05:50:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 15, 2009, 12:37:54 AM
I am. Home Premium.

:cheers: So how long do you have to wait for yours?  Our release copies are supposed to ship on or around October 22; same for you Euros?
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Syt on October 16, 2009, 12:47:49 AM
I'll have to check. I spent yesterday evening setting up the system (well, waiting for the system to set up itself), disabling fingerprint scan, and making the desktop look like a desktop and not teletubby land. I just submitted my new mac address to my ISP (maybe time for a router after all ... ), so I will finish the initial setup this weekend (replace Norton with McAffee or AntiVir, installing Mozilla, run the Win updates .... ) and then check it out.
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on October 16, 2009, 01:41:34 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 16, 2009, 12:47:49 AM
McAffee

:ultra:
Title: Re: Please advise on this lappy
Post by: Alatriste on October 16, 2009, 05:06:07 AM
A piece of friendly advice: take a piece of reliable band-aid and close shut the Gates of Oblivion... errr, I mean, the webcam. Perhaps it's because of 1984, perhaps because of 2001, but I'm a bit paranoid about those damned things. I have never bought a laptop or screen with integrated webcam and I plan to keep doing so in the future.