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Title: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josephus on February 28, 2023, 09:15:32 AM
So let the speculation begin. On March 6, P'dox will announce 3 new games, 4 new expansions, gameplay reveals and updates etc.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josquius on February 28, 2023, 09:18:28 AM
Stellaris 2.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: garbon on February 28, 2023, 09:22:07 AM
I'll care when they have something worth caring about. :glare:
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: HVC on February 28, 2023, 09:32:08 AM
Fool me once shame on you, fool me a half dozen times shame on me  :blush:  :P
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: garbon on February 28, 2023, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: HVC on February 28, 2023, 09:32:08 AMFool me once shame on you, fool me a half dozen times shame on me  :blush:  :P

 :D
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on February 28, 2023, 09:49:02 AM
Because EUIV starts so early the gameplay 1648-1815 is unsatisfactory; maybe Paradox will take a look at that, or even a shorter time period say 1770-1815  :hmm:  ?
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Grey Fox on February 28, 2023, 09:49:32 AM
Hopefully, the successor to Cities: Skylines.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Zanza on February 28, 2023, 09:53:34 AM
Two of the expansions will be for CK3 and EU4.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on March 01, 2023, 07:46:40 PM
CKIV that transitions into EUV and then morphs into Stellaris 2.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Jacob on March 01, 2023, 08:10:19 PM
I assume a CK3 expansion of some sort. I'll be happy with that. I've enjoyed CK3 the last times I've played it.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Valmy on March 02, 2023, 01:13:27 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 28, 2023, 09:49:02 AMBecause EUIV starts so early the gameplay 1648-1815 is unsatisfactory; maybe Paradox will take a look at that, or even a shorter time period say 1770-1815  :hmm:  ?


One would think the French Revolution/Napoleonic Era would be fresh meat for them. Right in their wheelhouse. Yet they screw it up majorly every time they try.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on March 02, 2023, 03:19:09 AM
Yeah, it is a very game-friendly period; map changing every five minutes, prominent people changing constitutions, innovations in warfare....odd that they have such a big gap in their offering.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josquius on March 02, 2023, 03:27:00 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 28, 2023, 09:49:32 AMHopefully, the successor to Cities: Skylines.

One that let's you build a non car focussed city :w00t:
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Tamas on March 02, 2023, 03:34:27 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 02, 2023, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: Josquius on March 02, 2023, 03:27:00 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 28, 2023, 09:49:32 AMHopefully, the successor to Cities: Skylines.

One that let's you build a non car focussed city :w00t:

Caesar3 not good enough?
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Razgovory on March 02, 2023, 06:20:07 PM
Quote from: Josquius on March 02, 2023, 03:27:00 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 28, 2023, 09:49:32 AMHopefully, the successor to Cities: Skylines.

One that let's you build a non car focussed city :w00t:
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Valmy on March 02, 2023, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 02, 2023, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: Josquius on March 02, 2023, 03:27:00 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 28, 2023, 09:49:32 AMHopefully, the successor to Cities: Skylines.

One that let's you build a non car focussed city :w00t:

Caesar3 not good enough?

I want a non raeda focused urbs
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josquius on March 02, 2023, 10:31:42 PM
QuoteCaesar3 not good enough?
I want a more modern city, not less :contract:

Quote from: Razgovory on March 02, 2023, 06:20:07 PM
Quote from: Josquius on March 02, 2023, 03:27:00 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 28, 2023, 09:49:32 AMHopefully, the successor to Cities: Skylines.

One that let's you build a non car focussed city :w00t:
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Yeah, illustrates the problem really. The game is designed around cars with a pretty unrealistic way of handling them. Going non car focussed involves being really hacky.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on March 06, 2023, 01:08:43 PM
quite a bit of stuff that got presented.
The obligatory DLC
and a bunch of new games, including a new Cities Skylines, something The Sims(ish) and something that had Jagged Alliance vibes.
But that's just going by a very cursory look.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Valmy on March 06, 2023, 01:11:38 PM
All that sounds extremely boring.  :hmm:

But I guess it depends on what the specifics of the DLC are.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josquius on March 06, 2023, 01:11:55 PM
Sounds like I might get my wish.

Which really considering the same devs did the cities in motion games is well overdue
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Tamas on March 06, 2023, 01:21:27 PM
The battletech people's interwar adventure tactics game seems intriguing. Rest is extremely meh.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Grey Fox on March 06, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
Super Excited about Cities Skylines 2, obviously. I don't mind if it's still car centric. I like playing traffic management sim.

The Lamplighters League tactical games sounds fun and seems to build on the systems of their Prohibition era tactical game Empire of Sin with a more interesting premise.

Life by You, finally a competitor to the Sims.

I don't care about CK3 or EU4. Did not bother watching those parts.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Sheilbh on March 06, 2023, 01:56:32 PM
Also super-excited by Cities Skylines 2 :ph34r:

Somewhere between GF and Jos on traffic.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josephus on March 06, 2023, 03:35:54 PM
so what is this Paradox Tectonic?
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: chipwich on March 06, 2023, 03:59:26 PM
I shouldn't have hoped for a grand strategy game.

As for cites: skylines I won't buy it if it doesn't have a better economic layer and more clarity.

As for CK3 I'm glad they are making use of the 3d elements which are redundant in other games.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: crazy canuck on March 08, 2023, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: Josephus on March 06, 2023, 03:35:54 PMso what is this Paradox Tectonic?

Splitters
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josephus on September 15, 2023, 04:17:27 PM
Paradox is teasing something new.

Something unprecedented is on the horizon, something yet to unfold, something entirely new.

The dawn rises on the beginning of Human society...

Check out the next teaser tomorrow, starting with
@CrusaderKings
& join the countdown:

Something unprecedented is on the horizon, something yet to unfold, something entirely new.

The dawn rises on the beginning of Human society...

Check out the next teaser tomorrow, starting with
@CrusaderKings
& join the countdown:

https://youtu.be/bPy5nn7I8IA



Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Jacob on September 15, 2023, 04:26:19 PM
"The dawn rises on the beginnings of human society..."

My guess is some sort of civilization scope game - start your civ and grow it through the ages.

Alternately, a dawn of civilization era Paradox standard Clausewitz engine game somewhere in the 3,000 BCE to 0 CE range.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josquius on September 15, 2023, 04:52:22 PM
Surely they've been burned on that one with their two shots at Rome.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josephus on September 15, 2023, 07:22:15 PM
Cavemen tribes DOWing each other and then settling for white peace. 😁
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 17, 2023, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 15, 2023, 04:26:19 PM"The dawn rises on the beginnings of human society..."

My guess is some sort of civilization scope game - start your civ and grow it through the ages.

Alternately, a dawn of civilization era Paradox standard Clausewitz engine game somewhere in the 3,000 BCE to 0 CE range.
Neolithic to Bronze Age perhaps?
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2023, 08:02:46 AM
This seems to be in development from C Prompt Games with Paradox as publisher. Someone on Reddit found a Twitter account called "Millennia", followed only by Paradox and C Prompt.

https://www.cpromptgames.com/new-page

"We're creating an epic new strategy franchise!"

There's three pieces of concept art on the page, which may or may not be relevant to the game, but one is also in the YouTube link's "waiting" screen.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/623232174723577b989bd591/17c504d5-7f8f-47ed-91a8-98e85a20c441/Stone.png)

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/623232174723577b989bd591/cf94ec3a-bd2c-419a-896e-4d0c69379489/hiring.png)

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/623232174723577b989bd591/2ea18076-530a-4ebe-946c-1bf196ec1efa/Underwater.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/s41gyw9.jpg)
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2023, 08:03:41 AM
QuoteC Prompt Games is an independent studio founded by Robert Fermier and Ian M. Fischer, now joined by veteran Art Director Brian Sousa.

Our leadership includes experienced developers who have worked on or led the creation of some of your favorite games, including System Shock 2, Age of Mythology, Age of Empires 2: The Age of Kings, Orcs Must Die, StarCraft, Diablo, and WarCraft.   

We love deep games with systems-based designs, high degrees of replayability, and strong emergent narrative – we want you to create your own stories as you play.

With that kind of pedigree - an RTS, maybe in the style of Empire Earth or Rise of Nations?
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Jacob on September 18, 2023, 11:58:57 AM
The concept art suggests neolithic start, ending with slightly futuristic underwater cities (presumably due to climate change).
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: The Minsky Moment on September 18, 2023, 12:30:54 PM
Ayn Rand's Civilization?

BioShock: Bronze Age?
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: HVC on September 18, 2023, 12:34:16 PM
Civilizations :unsure:
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Tamas on September 18, 2023, 05:56:46 PM
If it's an RTS I am not going to bother. I have fond memories of Empire Earth LAN sessions at work but I just can't get into RTSes anymore.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: PRC on September 19, 2023, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Jacob on September 18, 2023, 11:58:57 AMThe concept art suggests neolithic start, ending with slightly futuristic underwater cities (presumably due to climate change).

On the underwater city.. could also be a nod to an ancient Atlantis.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Jacob on September 19, 2023, 12:24:14 PM
Quote from: PRC on September 19, 2023, 11:08:18 AMOn the underwater city.. could also be a nod to an ancient Atlantis.

Could be... though it's funny that Atlantis would have English language signs for their hotels.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: crazy canuck on September 19, 2023, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: Jacob on September 19, 2023, 12:24:14 PM
Quote from: PRC on September 19, 2023, 11:08:18 AMOn the underwater city.. could also be a nod to an ancient Atlantis.

Could be... though it's funny that Atlantis would have English language signs for their hotels.

Next you are going to tell me Jesus was not White  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 19, 2023, 02:53:06 PM
Overlooked another piece of art on the devs' website. It showed up in today's teaser (there's been teaser posts from CK3, AOW, EU4, and V3 so far, with HoI4 and Stellaris still to come.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/623232174723577b989bd591/f5217546-5e8f-4291-8b27-bd9b7190335e/Horizon.png)
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 19, 2023, 03:00:03 PM
The teasers so far:

(https://i.imgur.com/2pcsXJc.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/N5l68wW.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/86OJbn0.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/n81ULfz.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/K7jH4yN.png)

The text on the images in total so far:

The dawn rises on the beginning of Human society ...
... people bowed to the reign of kings and queens ...
... (Time spins on) with legends ushering in a new age of heroes ...
... the Renaissance unlocked new ways of thinking ...
... allowing many to rise above what was thought possible ...
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 19, 2023, 03:03:37 PM
This is starting to remind me of Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_Nations:_Rise_of_Legends
(unlike Rise of Nations not available for purchase digitally)
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: mongers on September 19, 2023, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 19, 2023, 03:03:37 PMThis is starting to remind me of Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_Nations:_Rise_of_Legends
(unlike Rise of Nations not available for purchase digitally)

Odd  that.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: chipwich on September 19, 2023, 07:59:23 PM
A civlike where you choose to incorporate fantasy/-punk elements as a gamepleay choice
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Tamas on September 20, 2023, 06:17:44 AM
Quote from: chipwich on September 19, 2023, 07:59:23 PMA civlike where you choose to incorporate fantasy/-punk elements as a gamepleay choice

I am afraid the steampunk thing with the zeppelin-ship is coming for Victoria 3.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: grumbler on September 20, 2023, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 20, 2023, 06:17:44 AM
Quote from: chipwich on September 19, 2023, 07:59:23 PMA civlike where you choose to incorporate fantasy/-punk elements as a gamepleay choice

I am afraid the steampunk thing with the zeppelin-ship is coming for Victoria 3.

The steampunk mod for Civ 2 was absolutely great.  Steampunk should always be a player option in these games, not base game, though.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: chipwich on September 20, 2023, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 20, 2023, 06:17:44 AM
Quote from: chipwich on September 19, 2023, 07:59:23 PMA civlike where you choose to incorporate fantasy/-punk elements as a gamepleay choice

I am afraid the steampunk thing with the zeppelin-ship is coming for Victoria 3.

That picture is not a Zeppelin, it is a fantasy boat on a balloon.

That said Zeppelins barely feature in V3 and I'd appreciate a zeppelin LDC.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 20, 2023, 02:32:54 PM
Next teaser:

(https://i.imgur.com/zKxruS0.png)

(German troops with a faux-Sherman looks just wrong; like a 1960s WW2 movie :P )
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on September 21, 2023, 04:07:08 AM
Quote from: chipwich on September 20, 2023, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 20, 2023, 06:17:44 AM
Quote from: chipwich on September 19, 2023, 07:59:23 PMA civlike where you choose to incorporate fantasy/-punk elements as a gamepleay choice

I am afraid the steampunk thing with the zeppelin-ship is coming for Victoria 3.

That picture is not a Zeppelin, it is a fantasy boat on a balloon.

That said Zeppelins barely feature in V3 and I'd appreciate a zeppelin LDC.

Maybe even a led zeppelin...
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 21, 2023, 05:17:24 AM
Final teaser:

(https://i.postimg.cc/cLDCv0HW/image.png)

All lines combined:

QuoteThe dawn rises on the beginning of Human society...

...people bowed to the reign of kings and queens...

...with legends ushering in a new age of heroes...

...The Renaissance unlocked new ways of thinking...

...allowing many to rise above what was thought possible...

...to triumph over those who rallied against you...

...culminating in millennia of history.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Habbaku on September 21, 2023, 10:13:53 AM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1268590/Millennia/

New turn-based 4X stretching into the future. Looks very similar to Old World.

I'm pretty skeptical.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 21, 2023, 10:24:06 AM
Carefully optimistic.

Ever since original Civ: Call to Power 1 stretched its 4X to to 3000 AD with a hypothetical "future history" I've been hoping someone would try that again (they tried a lot more to shake up the formula, some good , some bad, but few have tried to tweak it as much since then).

Also, I like that they let you customize your civ as you play, picking traits/modifiers as you move along. Kind of what I hoped Humankind would do as a way of civs being hard locked into certain play styles.

Curious about what their "deep economy" will look like.

I like this: "Variant and Crisis Ages feature unique alternatives, introducing everything from Cloud Estates in the Age of Aether to underwater cities in the Age of Utopia" - it seems you can eschew the "normal" steam age in favor of steampunk in certain conditions? Yes, please! (Unless it becomes a no-brainer choice.)

Fingers crossed this will a success like Age of Wonders 4 and not a dud like Empire of Sun. :)
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 21, 2023, 10:26:01 AM
Also, after dethroning Sim City they're going after The Sims and Civ now. Can't fault their ambition. :P
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: garbon on September 21, 2023, 11:20:02 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 21, 2023, 10:26:01 AMAlso, after dethroning Sim City they're going after The Sims and Civ now. Can't fault their ambition. :P

Life By You looks like butt
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Syt on September 21, 2023, 12:07:23 PM
So far yes. Not really followed it much, but it seems their main selling point is making it a lot more moddable than The Sims?
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Josquius on September 21, 2023, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 21, 2023, 12:07:23 PMSo far yes. Not really followed it much, but it seems their main selling point is making it a lot more moddable than The Sims?
Ie. P0rn?
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: Barrister on September 21, 2023, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: Josquius on September 21, 2023, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 21, 2023, 12:07:23 PMSo far yes. Not really followed it much, but it seems their main selling point is making it a lot more moddable than The Sims?
Ie. P0rn?

That does seem like the first thing to come to mind, doesn't it...
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: grumbler on September 21, 2023, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: chipwich on September 20, 2023, 01:54:40 PMThat said Zeppelins barely feature in V3 and I'd appreciate a zeppelin LDC.

I was amused by the fact that the "build zeppelins" mission timed out in the early 1870s, more than 20 years before they ever appeared IRL.  Even later, Zeppelins are never worth the research cost.
Title: Re: Paradox Announcement
Post by: The Minsky Moment on September 22, 2023, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: grumbler on September 21, 2023, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: chipwich on September 20, 2023, 01:54:40 PMThat said Zeppelins barely feature in V3 and I'd appreciate a zeppelin LDC.

I was amused by the fact that the "build zeppelins" mission timed out in the early 1870s, more than 20 years before they ever appeared IRL.  Even later, Zeppelins are never worth the research cost.

It was supposed to time out in the 1970s.  Just the led ones.