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Title: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 15, 2015, 12:25:12 PM
I have tried searching for solutions to this on the Interwebs, but I suppose I either search for the wrong stuff because I don't understand what's really wrong or that it's such a novelty error that no-one else really has had it.

When I turn on my computer, I get an error message. Thunderbolt is using too much onboard resources. Well, I turned off the Thunderbolt controller ages ago. Now, however, I have to do it at every boot.

It seems to be one of the least common errors that occur, so apart from faulty motherboard or graphics cards that aren't seated correctly, I get no love on the Internet when searching. I have excluded both scenarios as possible sources for the error message. So my question to you more computerly educated than me is what the hell can I do to remedy this?
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on December 15, 2015, 02:34:17 PM
Not saving anything in BIOS?  Try changing the battery.  IIRC they're usually a 2032.  That should at least keep it off.  As far as the Thunderbolt controller goes: vOv
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 15, 2015, 02:50:19 PM
I did. It would seem like an obvious solution.

I have tried most solutions apart from sacrificing goats and suchlike. So I am really considering just scrapping the MB and getting an upgrade.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Barrister on December 15, 2015, 04:59:25 PM
Quote from: Norgy on December 15, 2015, 02:50:19 PM
I did. It would seem like an obvious solution.

I have tried most solutions apart from sacrificing goats and suchlike. So I am really considering just scrapping the MB and getting an upgrade.

Your MB is pretty darn new though.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 15, 2015, 05:24:30 PM
It's three years and counting. I don't really know the mileage you are supposed to get out of a high-end MB. The warranty expired conveniently before this nuisance appeared.

Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Barrister on December 15, 2015, 05:38:32 PM
Quote from: Norgy on December 15, 2015, 05:24:30 PM
It's three years and counting. I don't really know the mileage you are supposed to get out of a high-end MB. The warranty expired conveniently before this nuisance appeared.

Ah, I thought newer.

Trouble with getting a new MB is now you'll want to get a new CPU... :shifty:
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 15, 2015, 08:19:48 PM
Well, my 4770k is running quite hot even on desktop with liquid cooling, so it might just be time for a change.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: viper37 on December 15, 2015, 09:59:48 PM
did you search for a BIOS update?  I'd start there.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 16, 2015, 05:06:17 AM
Along with checking the battery, it was my go-to solution. But there are no new updates for the Deluxe Z87 since the one I already have.

I think this is just some weird mystery that's down to faulty hardware somewhere I can't identify.
I guess I should just accept being defeated by circuitry and electronics and move on.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: viper37 on December 16, 2015, 09:51:59 AM
You could try Asus tech support on their site.  It's gonna take a while too, they usually need 2-3 days to answer, then you reply, then 2-3 days before they reply, etc, etc.

If the board is faulty, you could return it to them and ask for a quote, it's gonna cost you between 100-150$ for repair, if it can be repaired.  My advice, though, is to buy a newer motherboard instead of repairing the old one.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 16, 2015, 10:15:02 AM
Although I maybe should've been a bit more resilient and done like you say, I just broke down and bought a new Sabertooth MB and and the I7 4790k.
Since I was spending like a drunken sailor, I also bought an Intel PCI-E SSD.

Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: viper37 on December 16, 2015, 10:40:19 AM
If you picked the right Sabertooth for your CPU (the latest one is socket 1151, the one you need is 1150), you should like it.  I think it has a 5 year warranty too, you should be good for a while. :)
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 16, 2015, 12:25:15 PM
It's a Z97 "Mark S".

I've had two Sabertooth MBs before, and they never let me down. Being an eternal pessimist, I am sure this one will.  :lol:
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Barrister on December 16, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: Norgy on December 16, 2015, 10:15:02 AM
Although I maybe should've been a bit more resilient and done like you say, I just broke down and bought a new Sabertooth MB and and the I7 4790k.
Since I was spending like a drunken sailor, I also bought an Intel PCI-E SSD.

Why wouldn't you go with Skylake if you're getting a new MB/CPU?
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 16, 2015, 04:43:32 PM
Because I can still use my socket 1150 Corsair cooler. Although that may seem redundant, considering how much money I spent.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 17, 2015, 04:45:42 AM
Dumb question: have you checked your jumpers?  There's one, usually either "clear CMOS" or "reset BIOS" or something along those lines that basically bypasses the battery.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: viper37 on December 17, 2015, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 17, 2015, 04:45:42 AM
Dumb question: have you checked your jumpers?  There's one, usually either "clear CMOS" or "reset BIOS" or something along those lines that basically bypasses the battery.
given he had this board for 3 years without a problem, that would surprise me.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 18, 2015, 10:08:06 AM
In the deepest dungeons of tech assistance forums, some dude had had the same issue with an ASUS Pro motherboard. It seems like it is a SLI thing.

Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Barrister on December 18, 2015, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: Norgy on December 16, 2015, 04:43:32 PM
Because I can still use my socket 1150 Corsair cooler. Although that may seem redundant, considering how much money I spent.

This information is probably much too late, but Z170 motherboards / Socket 1151 CPUs are still compatible with socket 1150 coolers.  My Scythe Kotetsu (which had no documentation for socket 1151) fit just fine.
Title: Re: A weird, recurring error in BIOS
Post by: Norgy on December 30, 2015, 10:50:56 AM
Another reason I did not want to splooge for Skylake was an article that says the processors have a tendency to bend under pressure. While I am sure that this is a minority of them, the thermals of the Skylake ones for desktop do not fill me with over-confidence on their behalf either. I bought my 4770k early, and it gets hot. The 6770k reportedly runs a notch hotter.

I guess, if I wanted the ultimate gaming PC, I'd just go for the Intel -E platform of some kind, but I have faith in the 4790k lasting for a few years.

I've tried basically any solution suggested for the F1 error except sending the MB back to Asus. The lesson I learnt: Don't spend on a motherboard with features you're hardly going to use anyway.