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Title: Star citizen
Post by: Alcibiades on November 26, 2013, 02:23:10 AM
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game


Space game/multiplayer...thing.

Most funded project in crowdfunding history, just passed $31 million.

Anyone been following this?  A lot of people I know have been blowing their load over this game.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Syt on November 26, 2013, 03:44:17 AM
I was interested until they revealed multiplayer part.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Barrister on November 26, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
Definitely been following it, but as per personal policy, I'll buy a more-or-less functioning copy, and not participate in crowd-sourcing.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on November 26, 2013, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 26, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
Definitely been following it, but as per personal policy, I'll buy a more-or-less functioning copy, and not participate in crowd-sourcing.

I will buy some GreenLight games on Steam (I bought KSP this way) since you get a large discount off final sale price. I paid for Minecraft in beta as well.

I'll only go that route when I feel it's a game that is definitely going to make it to the finish line, and I am paying a substantial discount to future sales price for a mostly finished game. The crowdfunding is a bit different for me because I feel like there's a legitimate risk the game never gets finished at all. KSP / Minecraft even if they never (in KSP's case) or had never (Minecraft) made it to release the early versions I did pay for were fun enough to justify paying $13 or so that I paid for each of them. Throwing $50 or whatever into a crowdfunded game might never result in anything.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Barrister on November 26, 2013, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on November 26, 2013, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 26, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
Definitely been following it, but as per personal policy, I'll buy a more-or-less functioning copy, and not participate in crowd-sourcing.

I will buy some GreenLight games on Steam (I bought KSP this way) since you get a large discount off final sale price. I paid for Minecraft in beta as well.

I'll only go that route when I feel it's a game that is definitely going to make it to the finish line, and I am paying a substantial discount to future sales price for a mostly finished game. The crowdfunding is a bit different for me because I feel like there's a legitimate risk the game never gets finished at all. KSP / Minecraft even if they never (in KSP's case) or had never (Minecraft) made it to release the early versions I did pay for were fun enough to justify paying $13 or so that I paid for each of them. Throwing $50 or whatever into a crowdfunded game might never result in anything.

Star Citizen has raised enough money, and Chris Roberts is a reputable enough name, that I'm sure they'll get a game out.

But it does worry me that they may have succumbed to "feature creep" as the money kept rolling in.  So I am worried that they'll never get a game out there that is finished, playable, and fun.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Berkut on November 26, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
I just don't care about any of this until there is something I can play.

I decided long ago that there was only minimal enjoyment from the anticipation, so mostly I just try to ignore anything that isn't on the very near horizon.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on November 26, 2013, 04:40:42 PM
been following it since nearly the beginning. The privateer/freelancer part is interesting in its own right but I mainly care for the Squadron 42 single player part of the project.

The hangar par of the mega-super-duper-early-alpha has been live for a good few months now (and already looks pretty damn nice). Buggy as hell, as can be expected from early alpha stuff.
According to their release timeline the dogfighting alpha should come online around year's end. We'll see.

The money donated sure has been immense. Far above the 20 million or so Roberts said he'd need to make this thing (when he still was going with outside investors). It's almost as if the crow it daring him to run out of ideas... :p
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: 11B4V on November 26, 2013, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 26, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
I just don't care about any of this until there is something I can play.

I decided long ago that there was only minimal enjoyment from the anticipation, so mostly I just try to ignore anything that isn't on the very near horizon.

pretty much nail on the head.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: DontSayBanana on November 26, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 26, 2013, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 26, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
I just don't care about any of this until there is something I can play.

I decided long ago that there was only minimal enjoyment from the anticipation, so mostly I just try to ignore anything that isn't on the very near horizon.

pretty much nail on the head.

Ditto.  Star Citizen sounds like something I'm going to be very interested in, but I'm just going to keep my inner news hound at bay until it gets closer to release or they decide to do some kind of open beta.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Alcibiades on November 27, 2013, 02:10:45 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 26, 2013, 03:44:17 AM
I was interested until they revealed multiplayer part.

What in particular, just curious
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Syt on November 27, 2013, 04:00:37 AM
I like space trading/exploring games.

I'm not a big fan of doing it in an MP geared experience. I don't trust Braben to deliver a good product with his new Elite product (he seems all talk and pipe dream with little on actual delivery; kinda like Molyneux), X: Rebirth was an abortion, so Limit Theory is where my hope lies. That or buying the Space Rangers HD edition. Or trying Droz Operative again.

At the end of the day I just want a remake of Frontier: Elite II with modern graphics.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Tamas on November 27, 2013, 09:07:27 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 27, 2013, 04:00:37 AM

At the end of the day I just want a remake of Frontier: Elite II with modern graphics.

I was thinking about that. I don`t think we would like that (I spent insane time on Elite II back in the day). I think it was our youngster imaginations that filled in the holes in the "life" of that universe. Holes that we are now accustomed to more or less filled by games like Space Rangers or the X series. And we are not that young anymore, it takes much more effort from a game to make me lost in its world. :(

So my hopes are on Braben. He managed to deliver 3 times already (ok, two and a half times), so let`s hope he manages a 4th time as well.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Syt on November 27, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Fair enough, At any rate, I prefer games where my fun is not contingent on other people being present within the game.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Tamas on November 27, 2013, 01:56:12 PM
Quote from: Syt on November 27, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Fair enough, At any rate, I prefer games where my fun is not contingent on other people being present within the game.

Oh, I am with you on that 100%.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Tamas on November 28, 2013, 06:39:03 AM
from the comments under RPS`s coverage of the latest Elite dev diary, I can tell there will be severe fanboi wars between the Elite and Star Citizen crowds.  :D

"Yeah well it is not true that SC is only going to alpha at the end of next year, there will be single player dogfighting available soon, it will only be the persistent universe at end of next year"

and

"since SC will be done last, I am sure they will learn their lessons from X Rebirth and Elite: Dangerous, so it will be the greatest of the three!"

etc.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Neil on November 28, 2013, 09:16:09 AM
I am looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on November 28, 2013, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: Tamas on November 28, 2013, 06:39:03 AM
from the comments under RPS`s coverage of the latest Elite dev diary, I can tell there will be severe fanboi wars between the Elite and Star Citizen crowds.  :D

"Yeah well it is not true that SC is only going to alpha at the end of next year, there will be single player dogfighting available soon, it will only be the persistent universe at end of next year"

and

"since SC will be done last, I am sure they will learn their lessons from X Rebirth and Elite: Dangerous, so it will be the greatest of the three!"

etc.

fanboys.. ugh.

more than enough SC people have backed Elite, and vice versa. Luckily. Ideally both of them turn out very very well
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btw: take a look at this (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1964463742/the-mandate): seems promising. Only a few more days for the Kickstarter
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Berkut on May 20, 2017, 06:58:00 AM
SO I've been poking around at this - anyone else cautiously excited?
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: celedhring on May 20, 2017, 08:24:55 AM
Wait, is it actually coming out?
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Barrister on May 20, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 20, 2017, 08:24:55 AM
Wait, is it actually coming out?

This.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: crazy canuck on May 20, 2017, 10:03:25 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 20, 2017, 06:58:00 AM
SO I've been poking around at this - anyone else cautiously excited?

I was cautiously exited about a year ago.  Now this is just some game I used to know.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Alcibiades on May 21, 2017, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 20, 2017, 06:58:00 AM
SO I've been poking around at this - anyone else cautiously excited?

I bought a founders pack back in 2013.... I'll be a bit more excited about it in 2020.   :P
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: crazy canuck on May 21, 2017, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on May 21, 2017, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 20, 2017, 06:58:00 AM
SO I've been poking around at this - anyone else cautiously excited?

I bought a founders pack back in 2013.... I'll be a bit more excited about it in 2020.   :P

This game, I mean the promise of a game, is the main reason I don't even look at crowd funding entertainment projects anymore.  On the bright side, I started looking at crowd funding science projects  :)
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Valmy on May 21, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
I don't get it. The game has not even been released yet. What if it is good? Granted I don't know how much money you sank into it.

Even science projects might take a few years to complete CC :P
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 21, 2017, 02:45:37 PM
lol  software crowdfunding.  Ponzi will always find his suckers.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Valmy on May 21, 2017, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 21, 2017, 02:45:37 PM
lol  software crowdfunding.  Ponzi will always find his suckers.

Every game I have funded has come out and been great :mellow:

Well ok most of InXile's games are highly flawed but still a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: crazy canuck on May 21, 2017, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
I don't get it. The game has not even been released yet. What if it is good? Granted I don't know how much money you sank into it.

Even science projects might take a few years to complete CC :P

But at least with science, I am happy to pay for the process.  And if the game is good  I will purchase it.  If it is never released, I will have saved that money.  I didn't put any money into it.  It seemed pretty obvious it was going this way from the start.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 21, 2017, 04:58:20 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2017, 03:06:00 PM
Every game I have funded has come out and been great :mellow:

:mellow:

QuoteWell ok most of InXile's games are highly flawed but still a lot of fun.

:nelson:
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Berkut on May 21, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2017, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
I don't get it. The game has not even been released yet. What if it is good? Granted I don't know how much money you sank into it.

Even science projects might take a few years to complete CC :P

But at least with science, I am happy to pay for the process.  And if the game is good  I will purchase it.  If it is never released, I will have saved that money.  I didn't put any money into it.  It seemed pretty obvious it was going this way from the start.

Going which way?
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Monoriu on May 21, 2017, 05:28:48 PM
I refuse to crowd fund anything. 
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 21, 2017, 06:40:02 PM
The sky is blue.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: crazy canuck on May 21, 2017, 11:01:35 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 21, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2017, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
I don't get it. The game has not even been released yet. What if it is good? Granted I don't know how much money you sank into it.

Even science projects might take a few years to complete CC :P

But at least with science, I am happy to pay for the process.  And if the game is good  I will purchase it.  If it is never released, I will have saved that money.  I didn't put any money into it.  It seemed pretty obvious it was going this way from the start.

Going which way?

Years of production without a game actually being produced.  This is not his first time trying to create the game of his dreams and not quite making it.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Syt on August 26, 2019, 11:46:56 AM
https://www.pcgamer.com/this-new-mine-laying-star-citizen-spaceship-costs-dollar675-and-you-cant-have-it/

QuoteStar Citizen developer Roberts Space Industries has a new exclusive ship out for select backers. It lays mines and has a serial number and it costs $675.

It's called the Aegis Nautilus Solstice Limited Edition, and the most distinguishing feature of this ship (other than its sleek black-and-gold trimmed hull) is that you're not allowed to have it. It was made available exclusively to attendees of a special VIP dinner event RSI held in Frankfort Saturday.

Tickets to that event, according to this Resetera thread, cost $274.73, and the thing about the tickets was that you probably weren't allowed to have those, either. The event was restricted to Star Citizen backers at the Concierge level, which means players who have spent a minimum of $1,000 on the game.

The ship isn't in the game yet. Which is just as well, because—as Resetera commenters have pointed out—mines and minelaying have yet to be added to Star Citizen. Also it takes more than one person to crew, and multicrew ship mechanics aren't in the game yet.

They're really just taking the piss now. :lol:

(Current funding for the game according to Wiki is at about $250 million, with $200 million from backers, and $46 million form private investors)
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Habbaku on August 26, 2019, 12:15:52 PM
This game is getting too big to fail.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: crazy canuck on August 26, 2019, 12:17:46 PM
It is amazing that people still pay for the dream of this game becoming reality one day.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Valmy on August 26, 2019, 01:00:51 PM
Well parts of it have been released. If I was a backer I would probably figure my $15 or whatever was reasonably redeemed. I just cannot imagine continuing to pump money into it at this point.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Barrister on August 26, 2019, 01:04:12 PM
I have do doubt that some kind of game will be released.  And if people wanted to pay $15, or $50, then go for it.

I just can't fathom sinking those quantities into a game which has no guarantee it will be any good or not.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 27, 2019, 01:59:01 PM
Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.
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Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Legbiter on September 02, 2019, 07:11:27 AM
We'll be flying these ships in real life when the game actually does come out.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Barrister on October 23, 2023, 03:58:15 PM
Star Citizen single player campaign is "feature complete" - but till no release date.

:lol:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/10/star-citizens-squadron-42-campaign-is-feature-complete-after-11-years/
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Barrister on October 23, 2023, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 26, 2013, 03:03:34 PMStar Citizen has raised enough money, and Chris Roberts is a reputable enough name, that I'm sure they'll get a game out.

What can I say - when I'm wrong, I'm really wrong.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Habbaku on October 23, 2023, 04:29:09 PM
Gonna have to check in with my friend who sunk maybe $1500 into this...
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: crazy canuck on October 23, 2023, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 21, 2017, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on May 21, 2017, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 20, 2017, 06:58:00 AMSO I've been poking around at this - anyone else cautiously excited?

I bought a founders pack back in 2013.... I'll be a bit more excited about it in 2020.   :P

This game, I mean the promise of a game, is the main reason I don't even look at crowd funding entertainment projects anymore.  On the bright side, I started looking at crowd funding science projects  :)

BB you were right about the Jets, and I was right about this.  So I guess we can call it even.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 31, 2023, 06:53:21 AM
We are all friends again.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Alcibiades on January 07, 2024, 04:45:47 PM
Looks like the game is actually getting closer to release for better or worse.  The persistent universe is actually pretty neat and you can play it now if you've bought any of the founding editions or what ever in the past.  Some friends play it a lot and I've logged in with them a good amount. Looks amazing, plays well... just needs some more game loops for the MMO portion, need a reason to log in other than just make money and get bigger ship. But development pace seems to be increasing faster with the single player campaign completed.
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Syt on January 07, 2024, 04:52:40 PM
Meanwhile: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/star-citizens-ridiculous-ship-prices-hit-a-new-high-with-46000-dlc-bundle

QuoteStar Citizen's ridiculous ship prices hit a new high with £46,000 DLC bundle
You'll need to cough up a grand for the pleasure first


Seemingly not content with having raised over $650 million for a game in development for over a decade without a full release date in sight, Star Citizen is now offering a new way for those with too much money to spend it: a bundle of digital ships costing £46,000.

Yes, that's forty-six thousand pounds. Technically, £46,080 - or $48,000. That's about ten grand more than the average person in the UK earns in a year, and more than the average mortgage deposit you need to buy a house. A real house, made of bricks, rather than one that you can only visit by booting up your PC.

The Legatus 2953 bundle includes more than 175 different ships from all of Star Citizen's in-game manufacturers, along with a bunch of other cosmetics and items - from backpacks and helmets to tools and weapons. FYI, one of those weapons, the Karna "Ascension" Rifle, won't be available until later in Q1 2024, just in case you pick up the set.

"Ahead of all others, this definitive armada is an equal match to the noble title of Legatus Navium," the bundle's description reads. "[It] empowers every fleet commander to forge a lasting legacy, leading humanity towards a brighter future." Uh-huh. I think I'll save my money, ta.

While it seems a relative drop in the bucket compared to the £46,000 price tag on the bundle itself, you'll need to spend a grand on Star Citizen to even be able to buy the mega-collection in the first place, as it's locked behind the game's Chairman's Club, which only grants access to those who've spent at least $1,000 through its store.

Of course, Star Citizen is no stranger to pricey DLC offerings, having earned a reputation for itself by selling virtual ships for hundreds of pounds to raise hundreds of millions despite the game being now into its second decade of development (with a separate single-player game, Squadron 42, also in the works) without a clear idea of when it will actually release. It does look nice, though.


https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Legatus-2953
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Josquius on January 07, 2024, 05:06:51 PM
The earth is glitching and crying out through every avenue it can "let me die"
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: garbon on January 07, 2024, 05:44:24 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 07, 2024, 04:45:47 PMLooks like the game is actually getting closer to release for better or worse.  The persistent universe is actually pretty neat and you can play it now if you've bought any of the founding editions or what ever in the past.  Some friends play it a lot and I've logged in with them a good amount. Looks amazing, plays well... just needs some more game loops for the MMO portion, need a reason to log in other than just make money and get bigger ship. But development pace seems to be increasing faster with the single player campaign completed.

What's this spam bot? :P
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on January 07, 2024, 07:54:49 PM
It is expected to get to Beta testing by the end of the decade?
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Tamas on January 08, 2024, 03:20:53 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 07, 2024, 07:54:49 PMIt is expected to get to Beta testing by the end of the decade?

You can secure your 2029 beta access today for the cheap price of $2999!
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Razgovory on January 08, 2024, 12:13:19 PM
This bullshit is still going on?
Title: Re: Star citizen
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on January 08, 2024, 01:06:52 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 08, 2024, 12:13:19 PMThis bullshit is still going on?
But its GOTTA pay off! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost)