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Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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Valmy

#3180
March 26, 2024, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 26, 2024, 06:29:02 PMIt was during my lifetime that we looked to the US for models of good governance.  :(

Oh yeah. All the times Canada went along with us about Israel goes way back.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

#3181
March 26, 2024, 06:58:37 PM
I keep getting pro-Palestinian stuff on my Facebook feed.  Today I got one called "Peace for Palestine" in it's description it starts going on about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  Sometimes you don't even have to scratch the surface.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#3182
March 26, 2024, 07:13:54 PM
And here's one from a guy named Salael Kiefer


I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#3183
March 26, 2024, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2024, 06:58:37 PMI keep getting pro-Palestinian stuff on my Facebook feed.  Today I got one called "Peace for Palestine" in it's description it starts going on about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.  Sometimes you don't even have to scratch the surface.

 :bleeding:

Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2024, 07:13:54 PMAnd here's one from a guy named Salael Kiefer

If I was a pig I would be a big Israel fan as well.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

#3184
March 27, 2024, 01:23:26 AM
Reminds me of an old German comedy song about a truck driver carrying 120 pigs to Beirut, only to realize they don't eat pork (it's less xenophobic than it sounds :P ).
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Solmyr

#3185
March 27, 2024, 04:48:11 AM
You guys seem surprised by Otto's turn. He's always been a fascist, there really is no change from before.

Also it's funny how he now extols the virtues of Trump while Trump has ALSO called for Israel to stop the war (granted, because it's bad PR, but still).

Jacob

#3186
March 27, 2024, 12:04:45 PM
The Trump coalition is full of folks saying "when Trump says he'll sell my interest group out, it's just empty posturing for effect or clever politics; he'd never actually do it. When he says he'll sell out interest groups I dislike, it's honest no-bullshit say-it-like-it-is truth and it's amazing and that's why I love him."

Trump doesn't give a damn about Israel or Palestinians. He'll turn to line his pockets and stroke his ego at any time it seems convenient. That may or may not include selling out Israel at any given point.

FunkMonk

#3187
March 27, 2024, 02:36:17 PM
Why is everyone surprised when someone who has openly admitted here of his hatred of Muslims said he will vote for Donald Trump  :lol:

Jeez people get a grip.
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Admiral Yi

#3188
March 27, 2024, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Jacob on March 27, 2024, 12:04:45 PMThe Trump coalition is full of folks saying "when Trump says he'll sell my interest group out, it's just empty posturing for effect or clever politics; he'd never actually do it. When he says he'll sell out interest groups I dislike, it's honest no-bullshit say-it-like-it-is truth and it's amazing and that's why I love him."

Trump doesn't give a damn about Israel or Palestinians. He'll turn to line his pockets and stroke his ego at any time it seems convenient. That may or may not include selling out Israel at any given point.

Disagree.  It's my belief that the one interest group he considers absolutely indispensable is evangelicals.  And Israel is their pet.

Josquius

#3189
March 27, 2024, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 27, 2024, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Jacob on March 27, 2024, 12:04:45 PMThe Trump coalition is full of folks saying "when Trump says he'll sell my interest group out, it's just empty posturing for effect or clever politics; he'd never actually do it. When he says he'll sell out interest groups I dislike, it's honest no-bullshit say-it-like-it-is truth and it's amazing and that's why I love him."

Trump doesn't give a damn about Israel or Palestinians. He'll turn to line his pockets and stroke his ego at any time it seems convenient. That may or may not include selling out Israel at any given point.

Disagree.  It's my belief that the one interest group he considers absolutely indispensable is evangelicals.  And Israel is their pet.


If he was smart and looking at getting elected maybe.
But once in power would he actually care about them?
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Admiral Yi

#3190
March 27, 2024, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Josquius on March 27, 2024, 02:53:50 PMIf he was smart and looking at getting elected maybe.
But once in power would he actually care about them?

Once elected he still needs anti-impeachment insurance.

The Minsky Moment

#3191
March 27, 2024, 04:04:12 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 27, 2024, 02:46:13 PMDisagree.  It's my belief that the one interest group he considers absolutely indispensable is evangelicals.  And Israel is their pet.

I disagree that is reliable. Evangelicals have swallowed tons of cognitive dissonance to support Trump; disagreement over Israel policy would not push them over.  Evangelicals supported Pat Buchanan for years despite Buchanan being one of the most anti-Israel politicians of significance on the right. If Trump changed gears on Israel, the evangelicals would follow like the Trumpy sheep they've been since rapey, porn star screwing vulgarian got up from his golden toilet and descended down the Trump Tower escalator.

I don't think Trump would turn on Israel for other reasons - Stephen Miller is strongly pro Likud and and I assume Trump is still close enough to Jared that mideast policy would largely follow the term 1 script.  But Jacob has a point; Trump is entirely selfish and unreliable, and he could turn on a dime if he felt offended or another policy interested him personally.
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garbon

#3192
March 27, 2024, 04:20:05 PM
Just imagine ramifications if Netanyahu was caught on a hot mic talking shit about him.
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Razgovory

#3193
March 27, 2024, 04:38:41 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on March 27, 2024, 02:36:17 PMWhy is everyone surprised when someone who has openly admitted here of his hatred of Muslims said he will vote for Donald Trump  :lol:

Jeez people get a grip.
I am disappointed.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

viper37

#3194
March 27, 2024, 04:42:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2024, 07:13:54 PMAnd here's one from a guy named Salael Kiefer



Looking the Facebook profile and the complaints about the SLEAZY dms, it's either a gay dude or a female hair stylist. Not a guy.

You have weird acquaintances.

Anyway.  I don't have such things popping up on my FB.

Conspiracy theories about govt control, lockdowns, and the coronavirus, which are now gone.

It's now mostly geek stuff about Star Wars, LOTR, BSG, fan theories, etc.

Worst that happened, was a fan made post about a Star Destroyer orbiting over the White House.  I commented that I would cheer for them if Donald Trump was a resident of said building.  That pissed off some friends of Otto. ;)


Like I said, FB is an algorithm: it shows you what you want to see to maximise ad revenues. If you keep clicking on anti-semitic links, FB does not distinguish if it's to voice your outrage or to applaud the slaughter of Jewish citizens everywhere: it shows you the stuff.
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