Israel-Hamas War 2023

[OttoVonBismarck]

Laugh on--like the UK isn't riddled with unprecedented antisemitic incidents as we speak, or like you don't have pro-genocide protests going on regularly there now.

[Razgovory]

I posted a survey.  It also gave Hamas support at about 75% in Palestine.

About the same level as on TikTok. 

[Josquius]

Laugh on--like the UK isn't riddled with unprecedented antisemitic incidents as we speak, or like you don't have pro-genocide protests going on regularly there now.

Oh you're totally right. Can't move for all the anti-Semitic incidents and pro genocide protests breaking out all over the place. These days they're just as much a fundamental part of life as football or roast beef or beloved children's entertainers of the past being convicted of sexual offenses.

[Razgovory]

You were arguing against Anti-Semitism in the Labor party and saying it was much worse in the Tories and we know how bad it was in labor...

[Josquius]

You were arguing against Anti-Semitism in the Labor party and saying it was much worse in the Tories and we know how bad it was in labor...

I don't recall ever saying that. Perhaps more that so much was being made of the anti semitism issues in labour with zero mention of the much worse racism of the tories?

From what I gather of the image presented abroad and that you're saying this in response to a claim anti semitic crime is rampant and there are massed protests for genocide.... I don't think you do know that no

[OttoVonBismarck]

British officials are the ones who have said there have been a "record number" of antisemitic incidents, that isn't something we just made up.

[Jacob]

OvB I just want to go on the record here as saying that I often find your sober analysis fairly compelling, but that your racist trolling is pretty tedious.

[Josquius]

British officials are the ones who have said there have been a "record number" of antisemitic incidents, that isn't something we just made up.

Yes. Anti-Semitic crime is up 1350% in London.
This meaning 218 vs 15.
Percentages are popular with those looking to mislead. Record numbers of a uncommon crime don't mean its suddenly rampant.
And pro genocide marches just didn't happen at all.

[Valmy]

British officials are the ones who have said there have been a "record number" of antisemitic incidents, that isn't something we just made up.

Yes. Anti-Semitic crime is up 1350% in London.
This meaning 218 vs 15.
Percentages are popular with those looking to mislead. Record numbers of a uncommon crime don't mean its suddenly rampant.
And pro genocide marches just didn't happen at all.

What number of hate crimes means it is a problem? Jews are what? 1.5% of London?

[Josquius]

British officials are the ones who have said there have been a "record number" of antisemitic incidents, that isn't something we just made up.

Yes. Anti-Semitic crime is up 1350% in London.
This meaning 218 vs 15.
Percentages are popular with those looking to mislead. Record numbers of a uncommon crime don't mean its suddenly rampant.
And pro genocide marches just didn't happen at all.

What number of hate crimes means it is a problem? Jews are what? 1.5% of London?

1.
However something being a problem (in London) isn't the same as Europe being dominated by that problem.

[Gups]

OvB I just want to go on the record here as saying that I often find your sober analysis fairly compelling, but that your racist trolling is pretty tedious.

Agreed. It's a real shame.

[Tamas]

OvB I just want to go on the record here as saying that I often find your sober analysis fairly compelling, but that your racist trolling is pretty tedious.

Agreed. It's a real shame.

Thirded.

[Tamas]

I understand it's an opinion piece but why is it ok to throw around accusation of genocide nilly-willy in a major newspaper, and to a lesser extent calling it war "on" Gaza?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/29/war-gaza-egyptians-palestine-israel-hamas-protest-marches

[Gups]

Is this Owen Jones again? Refuse the click or give him any attention.

[Tamas]

Is this Owen Jones again? Refuse the click or give him any attention.

No it's some Egyptian fellow. Owen Jones had a different Israel-bashing article earlier this morning. Speaking of which, I find it revealing of the sectarian aspects that apart from Owen Jones, pretty much all "pro-Palestinian" articles (of which there's been many, many, many) have been from Muslim authors (as far as my name-reading can tell).