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Gaming HQ / Re: News from the lovely world...
Last post by Valmy - Today at 09:08:09 AM
As it turns out Electronic Arts was just ahead of its time.
#2
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Josquius - Today at 08:52:58 AM
I recently bought a book by him for reasons. Just need to get the time to actually read it....
#3
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Valmy - Today at 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 08:17:42 AMWhile I know what you mean Josqs, "crimes of white people" can also be pretty offensive. I consider myself and other Hungarians "white people". There are lots of dark spots in our own history that Hungarians as a nation haven't honestly owned up to (most painfully our national conduct during the Holocaust). However exploiting Africans isn't one of them and if we refuse to treat rampant Ottoman and other Muslim enslavement of Europeans and Africans as an Islamic civilisational sin (a view I agree with), then we cannot hold rampant Western European enslavement of Africans as a European Christian civilisational sin either.

Yeah I don't know how much Estonians should have to face up to the crimes of the colonization of the Americas.

The Latvians on the other hand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonian_colonization_of_the_Americas  :ph34r: )

Sure I guess we living in nations that committed horrible colonial atrocities should own up to our past, but right now I would just settle for humanity stop doing this sort of thing currently. That would be nice, but we seem powerless to stop this behavior.
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Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Josquius - Today at 08:51:40 AM
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 08:17:42 AMWhile I know what you mean Josqs, "crimes of white people" can also be pretty offensive. I consider myself and other Hungarians "white people". There are lots of dark spots in our own history that Hungarians as a nation haven't honestly owned up to (most painfully our national conduct during the Holocaust). However exploiting Africans isn't one of them and if we refuse to treat rampant Ottoman and other Muslim enslavement of Europeans and Africans as an Islamic civilisational sin (a view I agree with), then we cannot hold rampant Western European enslavement of Africans as a European Christian civilisational sin either.

Well yeah. The proper wording would be Brits /Americans/whoever we are talking about.
Hungary has its own totally different shit to deal with.
I was just using Yis wording.
#5
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 08:34:59 AM
Listening to In Our Time and suddenly thought how old Melvyn Bragg is (84) and still interested in everything which is great. But also going to be genuinely sad when he goes :(
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Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Tamas - Today at 08:17:42 AM
While I know what you mean Josqs, "crimes of white people" can also be pretty offensive. I consider myself and other Hungarians "white people". There are lots of dark spots in our own history that Hungarians as a nation haven't honestly owned up to (most painfully our national conduct during the Holocaust). However exploiting Africans isn't one of them and if we refuse to treat rampant Ottoman and other Muslim enslavement of Europeans and Africans as an Islamic civilisational sin (a view I agree with), then we cannot hold rampant Western European enslavement of Africans as a European Christian civilisational sin either.
#7
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 07:15:57 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 05:59:07 AMThat seems to be the rule, any economic activity in which Britain is actually good is to denigrated... we should be making washing machines instead  :P

We are lucky, the economic activities the country is good at are hard to emulate by emerging countries. We should play to those strengths.



That sounds very anti-coal mines.  :mad:

Tamas bringing the coals to Newcastle, again.  :D
#8
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Razgovory - Today at 08:03:57 AM
Quote from: Josquius on Today at 03:17:06 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 12:53:08 AMMy beef with de-colonization, as I've stated before, is that it seems to only apply to white people.

You often hear the same sort of thing from certain people when it comes to slavery; "What about the Muslim slave trade! It enslaved far more people! And the Africans sold slaves to the Euros!".
And to this... yes.
But when we're talking about British or American history that's not really relevant. That's something Algeria, Nigeria, etc... need to come to terms with. It is the crimes of white people that are ours to own.
Maybe the Palestinian problem is something that Jews will have to come to terms with while Europeans and Americans can come to terms with their own problems.
#9
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 07:58:09 AM
That is good news
#10
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Tamas - Today at 07:15:57 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 05:59:07 AMThat seems to be the rule, any economic activity in which Britain is actually good is to denigrated... we should be making washing machines instead  :P

We are lucky, the economic activities the country is good at are hard to emulate by emerging countries. We should play to those strengths.



That sounds very anti-coal mines.  :mad: