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Started by Jacob, September 24, 2012, 05:27:47 PM

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https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3288543/f-22-safely-shoots-down-chinese-spy-balloon-off-south-carolina-coast/

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The official said Chinese balloons briefly transited the continental United States at least three times during the prior administration.

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Weird we never heard about that. :hmm:
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Jacob on February 05, 2023, 01:07:53 AMWell apparently it's been going on for a while, so it may have worked okay. Basically it's a low cost alternative to a spy-satellite.
Also I could be wrong but presumably they can also normally go higher than jets (but obviously wtihin the atmosphere) because they can be a lot lighter?
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The Brain

How high does national airspace reach?
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: The Brain on February 05, 2023, 06:01:32 AMHow high does national airspace reach?

all the way to the nine dashed cloud?

grumbler

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2023, 01:17:34 AMYeah, I can see how it's cost effective.  Radio the data back, write off the balloon.

The radio transmitter, power supply, and antenna are going to be major weight burdens given that this balloon would have to transit in the high frequency spectrum to get the data back to anywhere.

I think that it may have been just a collect and store system until it got back to within UHF range of China.
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Another balloon shot over the Yukon.  Guess the new Chinese weatherman isn't any better then the last one.
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Quote from: The Brain on February 05, 2023, 06:01:32 AMHow high does national airspace reach?

"Outer space" which is not clearly defined under international law.
However, the PRC balloon was clearly within the limit however defined.
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Jacob

#2632
The central government has recently cut medical expense accounts by 2/3rds (essentially the money is used to access family doctor equivalent services and purchase medicine and other things at pharmacies). Additionally reforms have moved certain treatments and consultations to hospitals (more expensive) and removed the coverage of certain medicines previously covered.

This has led to groups of seniors - not typically thought of as a segment prone to anti-government manifestations - to gather and protest the government (by singing "the Internationale") in Wuhan and Daliang.

https://twitter.com/fangshimin/status/1625927064351289344?t=ivqyad1pV8J2GNj_1MBxLA&s=19

https://twitter.com/whyyoutouzhele/status/1625814616856035328?t=9LRtN5hjKwHyhIfrhDpvtg&s=19

Sheilbh

So Xi was unanimously re-elected on 10 March. I saw (via Adam Tooze) that apparently Chinese social media was flooded with a picture of another Chinese leader who also took office on 10 March: Yuan Shikai :lol: :ph34r:

Always impressed by the mad inventiveness of Chinese netizens.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4DKz2Yn_As

Chinese Karen starts at 3:54.

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I'm not sure it's an anomaly.  Soviet cops legally had to take a lot of shit from citizens as well.  Of course, once you were in environment controlled by them, you were liable to get some extralegal treatment, followed by emergency medical or mortician treatment.

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Polygon had an article on what would happen if TikTok is banned by the US. Comments have a pretty strong contingent of those noting that it is xenophobia and America is worse than China.
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Josquius

What I'm not getting is how western money isn't chasing the obvious opening of tiktok without the dictatorship.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Josquius on March 24, 2023, 05:20:00 AMWhat I'm not getting is how western money isn't chasing the obvious opening of tiktok without the dictatorship.

We overstate the importance of tiktok. Youtube got that market cornered really.

Tiktok should be banned.
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