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Title: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Malthus on March 13, 2009, 02:15:46 PM
Well, this is cool:

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By Daniel Flynn ROME (Reuters) - Italian researchers believe they have found the remains of a female "vampire" in Venice, buried with a brick jammed between her jaws to prevent her feeding on victims of a plague which swept the city in the 16th century.

Matteo Borrini, an anthropologist from the University of Florence, said the discovery on the small island of Lazzaretto Nuovo in the Venice lagoon supported the medieval belief that vampires were behind the spread of plagues like the Black Death.

"This is the first time that archaeology has succeeded in reconstructing the ritual of exorcism of a vampire," Borrini told Reuters by telephone. "This helps ... authenticate how the myth of vampires was born."

The skeleton was unearthed in a mass grave from the Venetian plague of 1576 -- in which the artist Titian died -- on Lazzaretto Nuovo, which lies around three km (2 miles) northeast of Venice and was used as a sanitorium for plague sufferers.

The succession of plagues which ravaged Europe between 1300 and 1700 fostered the belief in vampires, mainly because the decomposition of corpses was not well understood, Borrini said.

Gravediggers reopening mass graves would sometimes come across bodies bloated by gas, with hair still growing, and blood seeping from their mouths and believe them to be still alive.

The shrouds used to cover the faces of the dead were often decayed by bacteria in the mouth, revealing the corpse's teeth, and vampires became known as "shroud-eaters."

According to medieval medical and religious texts, the "undead" were believed to spread pestilence in order to suck the remaining life from corpses until they acquired the strength to return to the streets again.

"To kill the vampire you had to remove the shroud from its mouth, which was its food like the milk of a child, and put something uneatable in there," said Borrini. "It's possible that other corpses have been found with bricks in their mouths, but this is the first time the ritual has been recognized."

While legends about blood-drinking ghouls date back thousands of years, the modern figure of the vampire was encapsulated in the Irish author Bram Stoker's 1897 novel "Dracula," based on 18th century eastern European folktales.


http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE52B4RU20090312

Note: creepy pic in the link of the skull with a brick rammed into the mouth.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Evil Spock on March 13, 2009, 02:22:18 PM
Self-inflicted. She was a Malkavian.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: KRonn on March 13, 2009, 02:23:42 PM
Aha! Proof that Vampires DO exist!! 
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Lucidor on March 13, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
I read about it in the paper here. Fascinating. I wonder if they are over-interpreting stuff, or really are on to something.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
See, they knew how to deal with vampires back then.  We're way too soft on them these days.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Malthus on March 13, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
See, they knew how to deal with vampires back then.  We're way too soft on them these days.

We should subject every Goth to the same treatment.  ;)
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on March 13, 2009, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 13, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
See, they knew how to deal with vampires back then.  We're way too soft on them these days.

We should subject every Goth to the same treatment.  ;)

There is no smiley to encapsulate (there *used* to be several) the agreement I feel with this statement.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Lucidor on March 13, 2009, 03:01:27 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 13, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
We should subject every Goth to the same treatment.  ;)
Damn cloth-biters, the lot of them!
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Caliga on March 13, 2009, 04:58:55 PM
Was she hott.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Queequeg on March 13, 2009, 05:03:57 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 13, 2009, 04:58:55 PM
Was she hott.
My exact thought when I first started reading the article "Was she a hot Venetian lesbian vampire?" 
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: The Brain on March 13, 2009, 06:46:46 PM
Artist's impressions point to yes.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Phillip V on March 13, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 13, 2009, 04:58:55 PM
Was she hott.
She fit a lot of brick in her mouth.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Martinus on March 13, 2009, 07:08:14 PM
Quote from: Evil Spock on March 13, 2009, 02:22:18 PM
Self-inflicted. She was a Malkavian.
You mean a Ventrue. :teasesyouwiththirdedition:
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Caliga on March 13, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 13, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 13, 2009, 04:58:55 PM
Was she hott.
She fit a lot of brick in her mouth.

:x Never speak of Vampire: The Requiem again (which is what I assume you actually meant).
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 13, 2009, 09:28:39 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 13, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 13, 2009, 04:58:55 PM
Was she hott.
She fit a lot of brick in her mouth.
:D
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Syt on March 14, 2009, 02:58:37 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 13, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
See, they knew how to deal with vampires back then.  We're way too soft on them these days.

We should subject every Goth to the same treatment.  ;)

I'll lose many friends. :(
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: The Brain on March 14, 2009, 03:13:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 14, 2009, 02:58:37 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 13, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
See, they knew how to deal with vampires back then.  We're way too soft on them these days.

We should subject every Goth to the same treatment.  ;)

I'll lose many friends. :(

See it as an opportunity to find a friend who doesn't wear black 24/7.
Title: Re: "Vampire" Unearthed from Venetian Grave
Post by: Syt on March 14, 2009, 03:16:31 AM
Quote from: The Brain on March 14, 2009, 03:13:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 14, 2009, 02:58:37 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 13, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 13, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
See, they knew how to deal with vampires back then.  We're way too soft on them these days.

We should subject every Goth to the same treatment.  ;)

I'll lose many friends. :(

See it as an opportunity to find a friend who doesn't wear black 24/7.

I already do, thankyouverymuch.