Languish.org

General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Josquius on October 03, 2022, 12:20:06 PM

Title: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Josquius on October 03, 2022, 12:20:06 PM
Water.
The American pronunciation of water.
It makes my blood boil. It makes me want to smash. I can't put my finger on why. But it's just so.... Off and upsets my ears.

Are there any similar accent and word pairs that similarly send a weird twinge from your ear to your brain?

Not so much asking  here which accents suck. But rather is there any particular word in another accent which you find off?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: The Brain on October 03, 2022, 12:22:02 PM
Not irrationally, no.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 12:22:15 PM
Water? As in WOT-TER?

How else would you pronounce it? WAIT-ER, perhaps?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 12:24:12 PM
Something that annoys me - people who needlessly emphasize adjectives.

If the sunset is beautiful, you can just say "Wow, that is a beautiful sunset!"

You don't need to say "Wow, that is a BE-YOOOOUUUU-TI-FUHLLLLL sunset!"

The emphasis is right there in the word itself! 
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Barrister on October 03, 2022, 12:30:26 PM
OK, I've got one.

Manitoba historically was first settled by French-speaking Metis.  They gave a lot of places very French names.

Some of those places have persisted in having a notable French-speaking population through to today.  So those places it is entirely correct to give those names a French-sounding pronunciation.  St. Boniface, a region of Winnipeg, is one such area.

But other areas are entirely english, and have entirely adopted an anglophone pronunciation.  So it always grinds me gears to hear someone from outside Manitoba try to pronounce towns like Dauphin or Portage la Prairie in a French pronunciation.  (think DAWfin vs dowFAN).
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: crazy canuck on October 03, 2022, 12:38:39 PM
For me it's hearing people, usually Americans, pronouncing clique as click.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 12:42:24 PM
Missourah. What is up with that? Where else is -i pronounced -ah? How did that even come to pass?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: crazy canuck on October 03, 2022, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 12:22:15 PMWater? As in WOT-TER?

How else would you pronounce it? WAIT-ER, perhaps?

Is the T pronounced where you are?  I am not sure if this is his grip, but I often hear Americans not pronounce the t and it becomes more like wader
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 12:46:04 PM
Yeah we tend to do that.

Wadder. Budder. Pronouncing that word with a 't' sound would surprise many of us.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Tamas on October 03, 2022, 12:52:02 PM
Maybe Josq wants it pronounced WA-ER
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Josquius on October 03, 2022, 01:03:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 03, 2022, 12:30:26 PMOK, I've got one.

Manitoba historically was first settled by French-speaking Metis.  They gave a lot of places very French names.

Some of those places have persisted in having a notable French-speaking population through to today.  So those places it is entirely correct to give those names a French-sounding pronunciation.  St. Boniface, a region of Winnipeg, is one such area.

But other areas are entirely english, and have entirely adopted an anglophone pronunciation.  So it always grinds me gears to hear someone from outside Manitoba try to pronounce towns like Dauphin or Portage la Prairie in a French pronunciation.  (think DAWfin vs dowFAN).

Another mild one for me is Scar-boro.

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 03, 2022, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 12:22:15 PMWater? As in WOT-TER?

How else would you pronounce it? WAIT-ER, perhaps?

Is the T pronounced where you are?  I am not sure if this is his grip, but I often hear Americans not pronounce the t and it becomes more like wader

Sounds right.

To me watta to be proppa northern (swallowed ts) or if you're speaking the queen's English then war-ta. Not waaaduh.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Maladict on October 03, 2022, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 03, 2022, 12:38:39 PMFor me it's hearing people, usually Americans, pronouncing clique as click.

This. And pronouncing niche as nitch.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 03, 2022, 01:09:53 PM
Urinal pronounced You Rye Nal.  Not triggered, it just sounds mildly ridiculous to my ear.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Grey Fox on October 03, 2022, 01:18:31 PM
Cul-de-sac in english.

Any english pronunciation of a french word ending in e where the e is actually pronounced.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Tonitrus on October 03, 2022, 02:15:33 PM
The Brits pronouncing Don Quixote as "quicks-it".
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: Maladict on October 03, 2022, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 03, 2022, 12:38:39 PMFor me it's hearing people, usually Americans, pronouncing clique as click.

This. And pronouncing niche as nitch.

Well don't talk to me then  :blush:

Though sometimes we say 'cleek' or 'neesh' but it takes on a formal tone. If I said 'cleek' people would think I was talking about a political faction A petty social group, well they are a 'click'.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 02:24:08 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on October 03, 2022, 02:15:33 PMThe Brits pronouncing Don Quixote as "quicks-it".

Fortunately Texans are well aware that 'x' is pronounced 'h' in Spanish. Also: 'j' is pronounced 'h'. If you actually see an 'h' you just ignore it.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Habbaku on October 03, 2022, 02:52:44 PM
Mischievous pronounced "miss-cheevy-us" instead of correctly.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: FunkMonk on October 03, 2022, 04:17:01 PM
There are no pronounciations that irrationally trigger me.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Razgovory on October 03, 2022, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 12:42:24 PMMissourah. What is up with that? Where else is -i pronounced -ah? How did that even come to pass?
We lost a war to Iowa. :(
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Barrister on October 03, 2022, 04:30:28 PM
Locals calling Canada's largest city "Taraahna" kind of irks me, but it's their city so I guess they can call it what they want.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Tamas on October 03, 2022, 04:38:17 PM
You realise I hope that if your language had some semblance of rules on how the writing of words should relate to how they are pronounced this wouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: mongers on October 03, 2022, 05:32:12 PM
I'm partially deaf, so lots of words sound very similar to me, primarily because I have difficulty hearing the differences between the vowel sounds.
I also mispronounce a lot too, so I'm not bothered by picking people up on it.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: grumbler on October 03, 2022, 06:52:58 PM
I've not heard "wadder" for water, outside of maybe New England (where the normal pronunciation is more like "waddah"), but D where the word requires T is annoying for sure.

I am irrationally triggered by seeing the Brits consistently fuck up the fine word "ass" by adding an R to it ("arse").  I know that it is actually a completely different word derived from a different language, but that's thinking rationally and my irritation is irrational.

A way to trigger rational me is to try to qualify the adjective "unique."  Something is either unique, or it is not.  "Almost unique" means exactly the same as "not unique."  Qualifying infinity ("an almost infinite number of ways to do this") doesn't trigger me, because nothing is infinite (except the stupidity of those that try to qualify "unique").
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 07:21:13 PM
I don't know if I have ever actually met somebody with a New England accent and I hear it all the time. I think you are so used to it you don't even notice it because it is a very common American thing. I know I do it and I don't have a New England accent. Far from it.

It just comes from half-assing the 't' sound after the vowel.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Maximus on October 03, 2022, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 07:21:13 PMI don't know if I have ever actually met somebody with a New England accent and I hear it all the time. I think you are so used to it you don't even notice it because it is a very common American thing. I know I do it and I don't have a New England accent. Far from it.

It just comes from half-assing the 't' sound after the vowel.

I don't hear that regularly and I do associate it with a New England accent. I guess it's also common Texas.

The one that really irks me is t-glottalization.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: 11B4V on October 03, 2022, 10:24:48 PM
Quote from: Josquius on October 03, 2022, 12:20:06 PMWater.
The American pronunciation of water.
It makes my blood boil. It makes me want to smash. I can't put my finger on why. But it's just so.... Off and upsets my ears.

Are there any similar accent and word pairs that similarly send a weird twinge from your ear to your brain?

Not so much asking  here which accents suck. But rather is there any particular word in another accent which you find off?


What
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 03, 2022, 11:39:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljJrrGgoLOU

There are no problems in life that can't be solved by duct tape or google.  Youtube of course being a subsidiary.

The American comes on at 3:21.

I *guess* the pronounced R is what Squeeze is talking about.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 11:51:15 PM
That was cool Yi.

I actually did not know that the English were incapable of properly speaking the word!

There is an 'r' right there on the end! Clear as day!
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: The Brain on October 04, 2022, 12:37:25 AM
Quote from: mongers on October 03, 2022, 05:32:12 PMI'm partially deaf, so lots of words sound very similar to me, primarily because I have difficulty hearing the differences between the vowel sounds.
I also mispronounce a lot too, so I'm not bothered by picking people up on it.

I'm an expert on bowel sounds. :)
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Josquius on October 04, 2022, 01:37:46 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 11:51:15 PMThat was cool Yi.

I actually did not know that the English were incapable of properly speaking the word!

There is an 'r' right there on the end! Clear as day!

Says the land that doesn't know the difference between a d and a t :p
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: HVC on October 04, 2022, 01:43:26 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 11:51:15 PMThat was cool Yi.

I actually did not know that the English were incapable of properly speaking the word!

There is an 'r' right there on the end! Clear as day!

Just one more thing they invented, but suck at. Tennis, cricket, soccer. It's a trend :D
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Syt on October 04, 2022, 02:03:10 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 03, 2022, 04:38:17 PMYou realise I hope that if your language had some semblance of rules on how the writing of words should relate to how they are pronounced this wouldn't be a problem.

Yes and no. German is fairly consistent in pronouncing things consistently based on spelling, but you will find variances due to local dialects. E.g. g and the end of words - usually pronounced like in "go", but where I'm from it's often turned into a soft "ch" sound like in German "ich". I've known folks who pronounce the ending "-er" always as "ä" (like in "air") due to their local dialect.

Similar, in Vienna B/P, T/D, G/K at the start of syllables are often pronounced pretty much the same t the point that when spelling your name out you often have to specify whether it's hard T or soft D for example.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Tamas on October 04, 2022, 02:03:49 AM
As if the letters written ever had more than a vague relation to the sounds pronounced.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 04, 2022, 02:19:58 AM
Back on topic, libary for library and axe for ask grate on me.  In ebonics.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: garbon on October 04, 2022, 04:56:45 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 04, 2022, 02:19:58 AMBack on topic, libary for library and axe for ask grate on me.  In ebonics.

So racist. :(
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Grey Fox on October 04, 2022, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 04, 2022, 02:03:49 AMAs if the letters written ever had more than a vague relation to the sounds pronounced.

 :lol:

There's an entire past grammatical concept in french that only exist because some asshole went to Italy and decided french needed the same thing; 700 years ago.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 04, 2022, 05:19:35 AM
ColoRADDO and NevADDA.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Duque de Bragança on October 04, 2022, 05:38:14 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 04, 2022, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 04, 2022, 02:03:49 AMAs if the letters written ever had more than a vague relation to the sounds pronounced.

 :lol:

There's an entire past grammatical concept in french that only exist because some asshole went to Italy and decided french needed the same thing; 700 years ago.

L'accord du participe passé.  :smarty: If there were no exceptions, that would be not so bad.  :P
I would say the rule is likely to fall in disuse in 50 years or less. Don't known if people still know the rule, lots of mistakes around here.

Yet I must say mistaken past participle agreements with object grate my ears.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Habbaku on October 04, 2022, 07:53:27 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 04, 2022, 05:19:35 AMNevADDA.

 :hmm: But that's the correct pronunciation.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: grumbler on October 04, 2022, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Josquius on October 04, 2022, 01:37:46 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 11:51:15 PMThat was cool Yi.

I actually did not know that the English were incapable of properly speaking the word!

There is an 'r' right there on the end! Clear as day!

Says the land that doesn't know the difference between a d and a t :p

Says the land that doesn't know the difference between a land and a person.  :P
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Sheilbh on October 08, 2022, 04:46:58 PM
One that irrationally triggers me is "iss-yoo" for issue.

They don't annoy me because just different countries but I'll never not marvel at the American pronunciation of, say, squirrel, buoy or niche :blush: :lol:
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: HVC on October 08, 2022, 05:09:26 PM
Wait, how do brits pronounce squirrel? :unsure:
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: grumbler on October 08, 2022, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: HVC on October 08, 2022, 05:09:26 PMWait, how do brits pronounce squirrel? :unsure:


Also, easy on the eyes.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: HVC on October 08, 2022, 05:17:37 PM
Thanks!  Their say is odd. Really close but not enough. The uncanny Valley of words
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Sheilbh on October 08, 2022, 05:18:51 PM
Quote from: HVC on October 08, 2022, 05:17:37 PMThanks!  Their say is odd. Really close but not enough. The uncanny Valley of words
Yea - I find the American pronunciation similarly weird and great :blush:
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Josquius on October 08, 2022, 05:27:33 PM
So Americans say squirtle. :w00t:

I don't get it, but the word squirrel seems to be a whole thing with francophones.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: grumbler on October 08, 2022, 05:30:05 PM
And dour rhymes with tour, not sour.  :scots:
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Habbaku on October 08, 2022, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 08, 2022, 04:46:58 PMOne that irrationally triggers me is "iss-yoo" for issue.

They don't annoy me because just different countries but I'll never not marvel at the American pronunciation of, say, squirrel, buoy or niche :blush: :lol:

Shed-yule too?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Berkut on October 08, 2022, 07:09:53 PM
Jermans instead of Gurmans. WTH people?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Razgovory on October 08, 2022, 07:16:28 PM
Quote from: Josquius on October 08, 2022, 05:27:33 PMSo Americans say squirtle. :w00t:

I don't get it, but the word squirrel seems to be a whole thing with francophones.

The "irl" sound used to give me trouble as a kid.  I would say "skuller" instead.  Same problem with "girl".  I'd pronounce it "guller", foreshadowing the day I would have to throw Dguller off a bridge in self-defense.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 08, 2022, 09:34:28 PM
I've mentioned before my quest to change Americans' pronounciation of karaoke.  I understand the Japanese R sounds odd, but what really grinds my gears is pronouncing A as Y and E as EE.

FYI I've managed to win over one convert in about 20 years.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Sheilbh on October 09, 2022, 04:42:56 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 08, 2022, 06:57:15 PMShed-yule too?
I'm a shed-yule person :ph34r:
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Berkut on October 09, 2022, 08:34:46 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 08, 2022, 09:34:28 PMI've mentioned before my quest to change Americans' pronounciation of karaoke.  I understand the Japanese R sounds odd, but what really grinds my gears is pronouncing A as Y and E as EE.

FYI I've managed to win over one convert in about 20 years.
I have no idea how to pronounce that word, badly or otherwise.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 09, 2022, 02:31:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjYRQ_2iBhY
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: mongers on October 09, 2022, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 09, 2022, 08:34:46 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 08, 2022, 09:34:28 PMI've mentioned before my quest to change Americans' pronounciation of karaoke.  I understand the Japanese R sounds odd, but what really grinds my gears is pronouncing A as Y and E as EE.

FYI I've managed to win over one convert in about 20 years.
I have no idea how to pronounce that word, badly or otherwise.

Kari-oakie. :bowler:
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Razgovory on October 09, 2022, 07:06:51 PM
Care-eh-okay
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: jimmy olsen on October 09, 2022, 11:25:19 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2022, 12:22:15 PMWater? As in WOT-TER?

How else would you pronounce it? WAIT-ER, perhaps?

The American T.

When a T has vowels before and after it, the T sound is changed to D sound.

Butter --> Budder
Waiter --> Waider

Etc...
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: jimmy olsen on October 09, 2022, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 07:21:13 PMI don't know if I have ever actually met somebody with a New England accent and I hear it all the time. I think you are so used to it you don't even notice it because it is a very common American thing. I know I do it and I don't have a New England accent. Far from it.

It just comes from half-assing the 't' sound after the vowel.
We met once didn't we?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: ulmont on October 11, 2022, 10:32:42 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 03, 2022, 12:42:24 PMMissourah. What is up with that? Where else is -i pronounced -ah?

Devil, council, basil, pupil, etc. all use i to signify the schwa - ə - unstressed vowel sound you have written here as "ah".
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: crazy canuck on October 11, 2022, 01:22:17 PM
One more thing to add to the list - people who say Canader.  You got the first two a's right, no reason to go all crazy at the end.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: HVC on October 11, 2022, 01:51:07 PM
Canada, land of the three ehs, eh.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: crazy canuck on October 11, 2022, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: HVC on October 11, 2022, 01:51:07 PMCanada, land of the three ehs, eh.

 :D
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: DGuller on October 11, 2022, 07:36:14 PM
Why would adding "ar" in front of "kansas" turn "zas" into "saw"?  What a country!
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: grumbler on October 11, 2022, 08:22:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 11, 2022, 01:22:17 PMOne more thing to add to the list - people who say Canader.  You got the first two a's right, no reason to go all crazy at the end.

That's just a portmanteau of "Canadian" and "hoser."  Let's see how many get that reference.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Tamas on October 12, 2022, 03:40:54 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 11, 2022, 07:36:14 PMWhy would adding "ar" in front of "kansas" turn "zas" into "saw"?  What a country!

Just bloody anarchy.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: The Brain on October 12, 2022, 03:47:32 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 11, 2022, 07:36:14 PMWhy would adding "ar" in front of "kansas" turn "zas" into "saw"?  What a country!

Are you confusion?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 13, 2022, 01:42:50 AM
Silent "t".

rustle
hustle
listen
glisten
soften
often

One of these, everyone gets wrong.  :P
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: HVC on October 13, 2022, 01:54:42 AM
Heard one today that reminded me.  Bagel pronounced bag-el rather then bay-gul.  Have a friend who does this. I want to stab him in the throat but am too polite :D
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: crazy canuck on October 13, 2022, 07:23:23 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 13, 2022, 01:42:50 AMSilent "t".

rustle
hustle
listen
glisten
soften
often

One of these, everyone gets wrong.  :P


I often hear that error as well.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 07:43:02 AM
Which one is it?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Josquius on October 13, 2022, 08:11:18 AM
I didn't think of often, that is a weird one.

https://jadejoddle.com/often-posh-pronunciation/#:~:text='Often'%20Pronunciation%20UK&text=t%C9%99n%2F%20.,to%20a%20higher%20social%20class).

Needless to say silent t people are weird.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2022, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 07:43:02 AMWhich one is it?

Often
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: grumbler on October 13, 2022, 05:46:15 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2022, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 07:43:02 AMWhich one is it?

Often

Often has two correct pronunciations.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 06:57:34 PM
Soften's t is silent?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: crazy canuck on October 13, 2022, 07:26:16 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 06:57:34 PMSoften's t is silent?

In this part of the world it is.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: crazy canuck on October 13, 2022, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: grumbler on October 13, 2022, 05:46:15 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 13, 2022, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 07:43:02 AMWhich one is it?

Often

Often has two correct pronunciations.

One is irritating, the other is not.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: HVC on October 13, 2022, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 06:57:34 PMSoften's t is silent?

I switch back and forth with no rhyme or reason.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: crazy canuck on October 14, 2022, 07:36:16 AM
Quote from: HVC on October 13, 2022, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 06:57:34 PMSoften's t is silent?

I switch back and forth with no rhyme or reason.

You say sof ten?

Why are you putting an s on often?
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: HVC on October 14, 2022, 07:46:32 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 14, 2022, 07:36:16 AM
Quote from: HVC on October 13, 2022, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2022, 06:57:34 PMSoften's t is silent?

I switch back and forth with no rhyme or reason.

You say sof ten?

Why are you putting an s on often?

Basically yes.  Both sound right to my ear, but that doesn't mean much :D
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Sheilbh on October 14, 2022, 07:47:32 AM
I feel like I am a silent t on all of them - but now I'm not sure if that's right or just because I'm thinking how I pronounce them.
Title: Re: Pronunciations that irrationally trigger you
Post by: Josquius on October 14, 2022, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 14, 2022, 07:47:32 AMI feel like I am a silent t on all of them - but now I'm not sure if that's right or just because I'm thinking how I pronounce them.

Or option 3, glottal. Probably where I am. Certainly can hear the difference between my no t and the American no t.
Soften with a pronounced t sounds odd. Can't think I've encountered it.