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Title: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Syt on May 30, 2012, 04:41:49 AM
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Video%20Human%20foot%20found%20in%20%E2%80%98suspicious%20package%E2%80%99%20at%20Conservative%20Party%20HQ%20on%20Albert%20Street/6696127/story.html

QuotePolice find another human body part in package in Ottawa

Human foot mailed to Tory HQ; police seek link to Montreal torso case

Police found a human hand at the Ottawa Postal Terminal Tuesday night, hours after a bloody foot was delivered to the Conservative party's Ottawa headquarters just blocks from Parliament Hill.

Ottawa police were still trying to understand what they were dealing with, even as detectives in Montreal combed through a crime scene where a torso was found in a suitcase in that city's Snowdon district.

Police discovered the second package, sent from the same origin as the package sent to Tory headquarters containing the foot, Tuesday evening. Officers carried out the second package from the huge Riverside Drive terminal in a brown paper bag, which they X-rayed before they opened it to find the hand.

Police said the package with the hand was not destined for the Conservative Party of Canada, but wouldn't say where it was to be sent. Every letter or package sent to or from Ottawa goes through the central Ottawa terminal.

The gruesome day began shortly before noon when access to the Conservative party's headquarters was restricted after the fire department's Hazmat team was called in to investigate a suspicious package. Firefighters took air samples in the 12th-floor office before the paramedics were allowed to enter.

A party staffer had started to open a blood-stained box that was sent to the office at 130 Albert St. before police were called to investigate.

At first, it was thought there was a human heart inside, but after the box was X-rayed, police confirmed the grisly content was indeed a foot.

The package was addressed to the Conservative Party of Canada and not to a specific person, they said.

About 12 people were in the office when it was delivered, but no one was treated by paramedics once it was determined the package didn't contain hazardous material.

Police officers guarded the main doors to the offices while major crime detectives and a coroner investigated.

Two men in white jumpsuits and masks left the building around 1:45 p.m. pushing a large barrel. Shortly before 5:30 p.m., an Ottawa police officer emerged from the building carrying a yellow plastic bag containing the package.

The Conservative party referred all inquiries to Ottawa police.

"A suspicious package was sent to our office," was all spokesman Fred DeLorey would say to reporters.

Around 3 p.m., Sgt. Steve Hodgson stepped into the hallway and commented on the mood inside.

"Everybody is calm. There's no over-reaction here," he said.

He added that the person who opened the package was also "fine."

There are several other offices on the 12th floor, including the Hotel Association of Canada. The association's executive assistant, Linda Crouch, said police did not inform tenants about the package. Tenants were told to remain in their offices. If they chose to leave the floor they were told they would not be allowed to return for an undetermined amount of time.

A Tory MP who showed up later at his party's headquarters was horrified by the discovery.

"It's just awful," said Brad Trost, who first learned about the incident from TV. He said it was probably someone's "sick idea."

"I don't think any of us are thinking this necessarily has anything to with politics," he said.

Earlier Tuesday in Montreal, police were combing through garbage bags and furniture left on a Snowdon street, looking for body parts after a janitor discovered a human torso in a suitcase at about 10 a.m.

Mike Nadeau, 49, said he'd noticed a smell coming from the suitcase in the past few days.

"Today I noticed flies and when I looked closer I saw maggots," Nadeau said. "I got a friend and we got some cutters because there was a little lock on the suitcase. What I saw when we opened it is hard to describe. There was no head and (the torso) was all grey."

He said he did not believe there were any limbs attached to the torso. Nadeau backed away from suitcase quickly and called police, he said.

Ottawa police say it's too early to tell if the cases are connected but are working with Montreal police.

With files from Glen McGregor, the Montreal Gazette and Citizen News Services
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2012, 05:34:25 AM
Imagine Neil's surprise when he gets his own penis in the mail.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on May 30, 2012, 12:11:33 PM
So now, they're linking the case to Montreal's.  It will be a interesting investigation.   I wonder who it turned out to be.  I don't know if they'll be able to identify the body without its head, and without some other body parts.

Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on May 30, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
And apparently, they have a suspect in sight.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on May 30, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
Porn actor wanted (http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/justice-et-faits-divers/201205/30/01-4530122-un-acteur-porno-recherche-pour-le-torse-la-main-et-le-pied-coupes.php)

A porn actor is wanted, by the name of Eric Clinton Newman, alias Luka Rocco Magnotta.

This is gonna please CdM:  apparently, he's a cat killer.  A reward of 5000$ has been offered for any info leading to his arrest.  He apparently posted videos on Youtube where he would put a kitten in a plastic bag and suck the air out of it with a vaccum cleaner.

He's homo, too.  Well, bisexual.  There was a rumour of him dating Karla Homolka (but he denied it).
http://ohinternet.com/Luka_Rocco_Magnotta (http://ohinternet.com/Luka_Rocco_Magnotta)
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 30, 2012, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 30, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
Porn actor wanted (http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/justice-et-faits-divers/201205/30/01-4530122-un-acteur-porno-recherche-pour-le-torse-la-main-et-le-pied-coupes.php)

A porn actor is wanted, by the name of Eric Clinton Newman, alias Luka Rocco Magnotta.

This is gonna please CdM:  apparently, he's a cat killer.  A reward of 5000$ has been offered for any info leading to his arrest.  He apparently posted videos on Youtube where he would put a kitten in a plastic bag and suck the air out of it with a vaccum cleaner.

He's homo, too.  Well, bisexual.  There was a rumour of him dating Karla Homolka (but he denied it).
http://ohinternet.com/Luka_Rocco_Magnotta (http://ohinternet.com/Luka_Rocco_Magnotta)

Quote from: Google TranslateWe seem to be dealing with a fucking sick.

Oh, Google. :lol:
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Josephus on May 30, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
Karla knows how to pick em
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on May 30, 2012, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 30, 2012, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: Google TranslateWe seem to be dealing with a fucking sick.

Oh, Google. :lol:
fucking is a good translation for "crisse" in this context.  Fucking psycho would have been better, I think.  But I figure you all got the meaning ;)

There's a snuff video that was uploaded somewhere called "One lunatic, one icepick".  He apparently kills a guy with an icepick.  :x
Text description/dicussion about the video, is it real or not (http://www.bestgore.com/murder/luka-magnotta-perpetrator-behind-1-lunatic-1-ice-pick/)
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on May 30, 2012, 04:20:32 PM
Well, police now thinks the snuff video is the one where he kills the dismembered guy.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 30, 2012, 04:20:32 PM
Well, police now thinks the snuff video is the one where he kills the dismembered guy.

Killing a dismembered guy?  Talking about kicking someone when they are down.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Neil on May 30, 2012, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: Josephus on May 30, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
Karla knows how to pick em
Well, she knows what she likes.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Drakken on May 30, 2012, 05:00:58 PM
That's one sick dude - he was killing and dismembering his victim on listening New Order. New Order, man!
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Josephus on May 30, 2012, 05:22:13 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 30, 2012, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: Josephus on May 30, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
Karla knows how to pick em
Well, she knows what she likes.

I can see her at a speed dating evening.

"So...quickly....do you like dismembering people."
"Yes."
"hot. what's your number?"
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on May 31, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
So, he had sex with his dead victim, and he also ate parts of him.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Sheilbh on May 31, 2012, 09:24:05 AM
Quote from: viper37 on May 31, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
So, he had sex with his dead victim, and he also ate parts of him.
North America really needs to stop their tourism campaigns in Germany.  First Miami, now this :(
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 01, 2012, 09:27:22 AM
Apparently French authorities believe he's in France. The manhunt commences!  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 01, 2012, 09:54:35 AM
Opps.

Welcome to the internet.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/05/31/dismemberment-.html
QuoteToronto police denied Thursday that they ignored a tip about a graphic online video that appears to depict the stabbing and dismemberment of a man days before law enforcement agencies began their search for Luka Rocco Magnotta, suspected in the slaying of a victim whose body parts were mailed out.

Roger Renville, a Montana-based civil litigation lawyer, told CBC News Thursday that he had come across the 10½-minute video Saturday morning on a website that showcases gory videos. Renville said he believes the video documents the killing and dismemberment of a man.

"Within a minute or two of the beginning of the video, it depicts one of the men stabbing the other man very obviously," he said.

"What I saw in that video exceeds your worst nightmare. It's Jeffrey Dahmer-esque."

Renville then began a series of calls to a number of law enforcement agencies in Canada and the United States over the next three days, starting with his local sheriff's office. Most agencies — with the exception of the RCMP in Ottawa — were not especially keen on finding out more about the video, said Renville.

Renville claims he called Toronto police at Sunday at around noon Mountain time told them he had seen a video that he believed depicted the killing of a man and that he believed that the apparent killer was from Toronto.

"The officer was very skeptical. He seemed like he didn't even want to talk at first, but we got to talking a little bit and he suggested that whatever I was seeing must be fake. And he suggested that special effects are pretty good these days and it'd be hard to tell if it was real or not," said Renville.

"He told me that my story didn't even make sense. Why would a killer film himself and then put it on the internet? He said, 'That doesn't make sense, that's illogical.'"


Renville persisted, and asked the officer to provide him an email address so that police could view the video themselves.

"He said no, they wouldn't be needing a link and he declined to give me an email address."

Tip handled properly, Toronto police say

Toronto police say they've looked into Renville's allegations and have a record of a call placed to them at 10:30 p.m. ET Sunday night, which would be hours after Renville claims to have called.

Toronto police say the caller never provided them with a web address of the video or any information about how to access it. Police told CBC News the call-taker was not a uniformed officer but a "non-emergency call-taker."

Toronto police spokesperson Const. Wendy Drummond said the caller was instructed to contact Crime Stoppers, an anonymous police tip line, about the video and said the call taker-handled the call appropriately.

"A call was filed, they were suggested to call Crime Stoppers," said Drummond. "They were provided with a number to call Crime Stoppers so it wasn't that we did nothing."


Sources have told CBC News that Montreal police believe they are in possession of evidence of the suspect filming the killing and dismembering of the victim. While it hasn't been confirmed if the victim in the video Renville saw was the same one that Magnotta is alleged to have killed, the lawyer said he was nevertheless "extremely frustrated" at the response from police.

He said RCMP were more interested in his story when he called them late Tuesday.

Magnotta, believed to be originally from Toronto, is wanted in a homicide investigation related to the delivery of a human foot to the headquarters of Conservative Party of Canada in Ottawa and the discovery of a torso in Montreal. Magnotta was first named as a suspect on Wednesday.

The torso was found behind a brick mid-rise apartment building, which is near the bustling Decarie Expressway.

Meanwhile, a hand was found in a package addressed to the Liberal Party of Canada at a Canada Post terminal before it could be delivered.

Montreal police said there are still remains that are unaccounted for, but they have no reason to believe they were also sent in the mail.

Magnotta, whose most recent residence was in Montreal, was listed on Interpol's website Thursday among a group of nine international suspects wanted for crimes including homicide, kidnapping and organized crime.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Drakken on June 01, 2012, 09:58:06 AM
Would that enter under the definition of a snuff movie?

I'm not joking, because as far as we know this movie was made with the sole goal to see it distributed and watched by a wider, underground audience, and this man had an habit to distribute movies of real-life killing of animals for entertainment. It's a snuff, commercial exchange or not.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 01, 2012, 07:57:26 PM
Quote from: Drakken on June 01, 2012, 09:58:06 AM
Would that enter under the definition of a snuff movie?

I'm not joking, because as far as we know this movie was made with the sole goal to see it distributed and watched by a wider, underground audience, and this man had an habit to distribute movies of real-life killing of animals for entertainment. It's a snuff, commercial exchange or not.
I would call it one, though some people will be sticklers on the commercial issue.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on June 02, 2012, 12:28:17 AM
QuoteFacts:

  • Luka Magnotta has an IQ of 165

:lol:
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 04, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Syt on June 04, 2012, 09:54:45 AM
Montreal - Paris - Berlin . . . . would Warsaw have been next? :o
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Malthus on June 04, 2012, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 04, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.

You'd figure the Germans would *like* a sex cannibal. :hmm:
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2012, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 04, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.

And yet, somehow, so fitting.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: HVC on June 04, 2012, 05:33:20 PM
In an Internet cafe. The one place a person would be most likely to recognize him since his wackiness is all over the Internet. Ego's a bitch, isn't it?
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Grallon on June 04, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 04, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.



He wanted for it to end this way.  There's no death penalty in Canada - which means if he plays his cards well he can be free within 10 years.  And after that... why - a book deal and quite possibly a movie made out of the whole gory story.  Male escort, porn actor, murderer - sex and gore -  it has 'Hollywood' written all over it.  And I believe that's what he wants above all else: a form of 'immortality' through the relating and retelling of that bloody affair.




G.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: HVC on June 04, 2012, 05:50:02 PM
Quote from: Grallon on June 04, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 04, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.



He wanted for it to end this way.  There's no death penalty in Canada - which means if he plays his cards well he can be free within 10 years.  And after that... why - a book deal and quite possibly a movie made out of the whole gory story.  Male escort, porn actor, murderer - sex and gore -  it has 'Hollywood' written all over it.  And I believe that's what he wants above all else: a form of 'immortality' through the relating and retelling of that bloody affair.




G.
Which is why the courts should hit him where it hurts, 100% publication ban.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Grallon on June 04, 2012, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 04, 2012, 05:50:02 PM
Which is why the courts should hit him where it hurts, 100% publication ban.


Too late for that - you can still watch his 'home movie' online...  I couldn't after I saw him playing with the severed head... :yucky:

The point is it's already out there and viral.



G.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: HVC on June 04, 2012, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: Grallon on June 04, 2012, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 04, 2012, 05:50:02 PM
Which is why the courts should hit him where it hurts, 100% publication ban.


Too late for that - you can still watch his 'home movie' online...  I couldn't after I saw him playing with the severed head... :yucky:

The point is it's already out there and viral.



G.
What's past is past, but keep the trial out. let him be forgotten in his own moment of "triumph". Striking ones name from history was a punishment in the past for a reason. Someone with his ego would be hurt more by that then most things. Will, except for a hanging, but we don't do that here.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Neil on June 04, 2012, 07:17:57 PM
Quote from: Grallon on June 04, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
He wanted for it to end this way.  There's no death penalty in Canada - which means if he plays his cards well he can be free within 10 years.  And after that... why - a book deal and quite possibly a movie made out of the whole gory story.  Male escort, porn actor, murderer - sex and gore -  it has 'Hollywood' written all over it.  And I believe that's what he wants above all else: a form of 'immortality' through the relating and retelling of that bloody affair.
I'm pretty sure there's a law against a criminal profiting from his crime in a situation like that.  Somebody might get a book deal, but it won't be him.

Still, it's just another murder/dismemberment, in a world where that sort of thing happens every day.  I was bored of this story within an hour.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 04, 2012, 10:27:54 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 04, 2012, 05:33:20 PM
In an Internet cafe. The one place a person would be most likely to recognize him since his wackiness is all over the Internet. Ego's a bitch, isn't it?

QuoteMagnotta had spent two hours reading coverage about himself at an Internet cafe when he was detained.

:lol: Typical.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 05, 2012, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: Grallon on June 04, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
He wanted for it to end this way.  There's no death penalty in Canada - which means if he plays his cards well he can be free within 10 years.  And after that... why - a book deal and quite possibly a movie made out of the whole gory story.  Male escort, porn actor, murderer - sex and gore -  it has 'Hollywood' written all over it.  And I believe that's what he wants above all else: a form of 'immortality' through the relating and retelling of that bloody affair.




G.
Nothing prevent the book&film deal while inside jail.

He gets 25 years, no parole, wich means he might be available for a revision of his status in 15 years.  But the Evil Conservatives plugged a few holes in that law... so he won't kill any other gays for a while.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Barrister on June 05, 2012, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 04, 2012, 07:17:57 PM
Quote from: Grallon on June 04, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
He wanted for it to end this way.  There's no death penalty in Canada - which means if he plays his cards well he can be free within 10 years.  And after that... why - a book deal and quite possibly a movie made out of the whole gory story.  Male escort, porn actor, murderer - sex and gore -  it has 'Hollywood' written all over it.  And I believe that's what he wants above all else: a form of 'immortality' through the relating and retelling of that bloody affair.
I'm pretty sure there's a law against a criminal profiting from his crime in a situation like that.  Somebody might get a book deal, but it won't be him.

Still, it's just another murder/dismemberment, in a world where that sort of thing happens every day.  I was bored of this story within an hour.

I don't think there's a law, but publishers don't need to bother signing a deal with a criminal.  all some reporter needs to do is sit in on the trial and then report on all the evidence that the police have already dug up.  Both cheaper and easier than having to even talk to the accused.

He'll get first degree murder, which means no parole for 25 years.  And in 25 years he'll be mostly forgotten.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 05, 2012, 11:25:51 AM
I know down here there's been plenty of laws passed to prevent celebrity prisoners to publish and profit in any way from biographies or other published material;  anything like that up in Soviet Canuckistan?
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Barrister on June 05, 2012, 11:36:19 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 05, 2012, 11:25:51 AM
I know down here there's been plenty of laws passed to prevent celebrity prisoners to publish and profit in any way from biographies or other published material;  anything like that up in Soviet Canuckistan?

Not that I'm aware of.

We had our own sensational murder trial in Edmonton last year - Mark Twitchell, who killed a man and wrote a fictionalized screen play about how he did it. It got coverage on a bunch of American tv shows.

A book came out this year about the whole case, written by the Edmonton Journal writer who had covered it.  He even did a number of interviews with Twitchell.  But Twitchell himself never got paid one penny, and had no control over what was printed.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 05, 2012, 11:51:05 AM
Well, down here you can publish from prison;  you just can't profit from it.  In some instances, profits would go to victims families if there was an existing civil suit that had been successful.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Barrister on June 05, 2012, 11:56:34 AM
I don't see why any publishing house would touch a book coming from a convicted felon with the proverbial 10 foot pole.  Look at the heat that OJ book caught - and he was acquitted!
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 06, 2012, 08:47:44 AM
So Vancouver, wich has received it's fair share of human feet by way of the sea, now receives some by mail to.

Related to the Montreal crime?  Not related?  Time will tell.  Here's the twist in the plot though: a 3rd foot was found in Montreal, in the neighbourhood right next to were the crime was committed.  The foot was found in a street (Rue St-Jacques, Notre-Dame-de-Grâce).

So either there's a second victim or there's more than one dude killing people.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Drakken on June 06, 2012, 08:51:27 AM
I sincerely doubt it's a copycat at hand. My money's on the rest of the missing body parts sent by slow mail, as it was reported not all parts of the body had been recovered. It's all calculated to shock and be talked at length in the media. First political party officers, then grade schools.

As Lin was killed very recently, like about two weeks ago - that leaves a very thin window for future prison bitch Magnotta to kill again before fleeing - given, of course, that we do not know the exact stage of decomposition of the so-called "3rd feet" (if it is even related), indicating that any potential victim might have been killed before the snuff was made.

While I would not be surprised that he might have killed at least once before - it would be horrifying if Magnotta was a serial killer as per the FBI definition, and that was only the tip of the iceberg - serial killers usually kill with a slower timespan and tend to make and keep mementos for themselves - not to showcase them to the entire world, show himself doing it, and boast about it. Even someone as depravedly attention-seeking like Dennis Rader/BTK would at least keep his real identity a secret when sending taunts to the media.

That's why I doubt this boy is a serial killer, he wanted to get caught and did everything he could to be easily caught. What he wants is exhibit himself to get fame and celebrity forever. He reminds me more of John Hinkley Jr. or Mark David Chapman, than Jeffrey Dahmer.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 06, 2012, 09:19:27 AM
False alarm.  Someone's idea of a joke, it was a plastic foot.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 07, 2012, 12:58:51 PM
Gruesome murder in LA maybe linked to Canadian Psycho (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/07/canadian-cannibal-killer-magnotta-reportedly-admired-video-la-body-parts-murder/)

actually, so far, he only clicked "like" on some video of this.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2012, 06:52:48 AM
Looks like the dude mailed some body parts to schools in Vancouver.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/06/06/bc-body-parts-schools.html?cmp=rss
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 11, 2012, 09:46:56 AM
I thought it had been discussed.  My bad.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Zanza on June 18, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
The guy was extradited by Germany to Canada today. I am surprised this was done so quickly.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 18, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
Me too. 

I wonder if he'll try to plead not guilty.

Only defense I can see so far is some form of mental disease.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Barrister on June 18, 2012, 12:17:41 PM
Quote from: Zanza on June 18, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
The guy was extradited by Germany to Canada today. I am surprised this was done so quickly.

Apparently he didn't contest the extradition.  Because yes, ordinarily it is a very long process.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Neil on June 18, 2012, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 18, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
Me too. 

I wonder if he'll try to plead not guilty.

Only defense I can see so far is some form of mental disease.
Unfortunately for him they took homosexuality out of the DSM IV.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 19, 2012, 01:31:55 PM
And he pleaded 'not guilty'.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Drakken on June 19, 2012, 04:12:16 PM
You know, since this guy is obviously in it for the show and the newsreel attention, and the details of the case can be so gross and horrific as to constitute obscene content, wouldn't there be grounds to request the whole trial be done under huit clos to shut the media outside the courtroom?

Just wondering. I'd like BB's input on this, as a Crown Prosecutor.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 19, 2012, 04:25:41 PM
there'd be a media uproard, but it'd sure piss him off.

Anyway, he'll plead mental insanity, do a year in a psychiatric ward then be release under supervision to the general public.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Drakken on June 19, 2012, 04:27:12 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2012, 04:25:41 PM
Anyway, he'll plead mental insanity, do a year in a psychiatric ward then be release under supervision to the general public.

You're insane.

Or, in polite form: Es-tu malade, ostie?!
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Drakken on June 19, 2012, 04:31:36 PM
Yeah the media will be pissed off, but it's small price to pay in exchange of denying an accused to abuse courts to peacock himself to the crowd and become a celebrity.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Barrister on June 19, 2012, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: Drakken on June 19, 2012, 04:12:16 PM
You know, since this guy is obviously in it for the show and the newsreel attention, and the details of the case can be so gross and horrific as to constitute obscene content, wouldn't there be grounds to request the whole trial be done under huit clos to shut the media outside the courtroom?

Just wondering. I'd like BB's input on this, as a Crown Prosecutor.

Nope.  Absolutely not.

Mind you there will be a publication ban on the bail hearing and any preliminary inquiry, but once the trial starts everything can be published.

This guy sounds far from being NCRMD.  He's going away for a long time.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Drakken on June 19, 2012, 07:14:21 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 19, 2012, 05:04:34 PM
This guy sounds far from being NCRMD.  He's going away for a long time.

Viper was referring to the Guy Turcotte case.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 20, 2012, 09:51:23 AM
Quote from: Drakken on June 19, 2012, 04:27:12 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 19, 2012, 04:25:41 PM
Anyway, he'll plead mental insanity, do a year in a psychiatric ward then be release under supervision to the general public.

You're insane.

Or, in polite form: Es-tu malade, ostie?!
Guy Turcotte was apparently not an isolated case.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 20, 2012, 09:52:55 AM
Anyway.  It turns out there's been a mistake.  He pleaded not guilty, but did not have too.  His lawyer and the judge got confused.  He's back in court on Thursday to enter his plea.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Barrister on June 20, 2012, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 20, 2012, 09:52:55 AM
Anyway.  It turns out there's been a mistake.  He pleaded not guilty, but did not have too.  His lawyer and the judge got confused.  He's back in court on Thursday to enter his plea.

Yeah, that sounded odd.  Nobody enters their plea on their first appearance.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Barrister on June 21, 2017, 03:22:29 PM
necro-bump


Apparently there are happy endings even for convicted murderers and body defilers.  Muke Magnotta is getting married - to another inmate.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/06/20/convicted-killer-luka-magnotta-reportedly-getting-married.html
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: The Brain on June 21, 2017, 03:46:38 PM
I thought the party had received a toe. :weep:
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Josephus on June 21, 2017, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 21, 2017, 03:22:29 PM
necro-bump


Apparently there are happy endings even for convicted murderers and body defilers.  Muke Magnotta is getting married - to another inmate.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/06/20/convicted-killer-luka-magnotta-reportedly-getting-married.html

Do they have like prison dances and mix-and mingle evenings in prisons?
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Josquius on June 21, 2017, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 21, 2017, 03:22:29 PM
necro-bump


Apparently there are happy endings even for convicted murderers and body defilers.  Muke Magnotta is getting married - to another inmate.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/06/20/convicted-killer-luka-magnotta-reportedly-getting-married.html

So how does this work :hmm:
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 21, 2017, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 21, 2017, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 21, 2017, 03:22:29 PM
necro-bump


Apparently there are happy endings even for convicted murderers and body defilers.  Muke Magnotta is getting married - to another inmate.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/06/20/convicted-killer-luka-magnotta-reportedly-getting-married.html

So how does this work :hmm:
I believe they say "Yes, I do" and exchange rings.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: Josquius on June 22, 2017, 02:08:23 AM
But they're prisoners.
They're going to remain prisoners.
Have prisons gotten modern enough that they seek to house couples together?
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: garbon on June 22, 2017, 06:17:05 AM
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/20/killer-luka-magnotta-to-marry-fellow-felon-report

QuoteThe newsome twosome's marriage will be celebrated at the Pont-Cartier Penitentiary under strict conditions, TVA Nouvelles reports.

Magnotta and Jolin will be now entitled to trailer visits.

"When you are a de facto partner with someone, technically you are entitled to private family trailers. So spend three days with your spouse," former inmate and social reintegration worker Daniel Benson told TVA.

"I do not want to make any value judgment on Mr. Magnotta, but with the offense he committed ... leaving that person alone with his spouse unattended for 2-3 days, I have a certain (unease)."
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: viper37 on June 22, 2017, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 22, 2017, 02:08:23 AM
Have prisons gotten modern enough that they seek to house couples together?
no, but they have a private appartment for spousal visits.

I think Magnota's partner is in for killing his previous boyfriend.

They might be killing one another for fun.
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: garbon on June 22, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 22, 2017, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 22, 2017, 02:08:23 AM
Have prisons gotten modern enough that they seek to house couples together?
no, but they have a private appartment for spousal visits.

I think Magnota's partner is in for killing his previous boyfriend.

They might be killing one another for fun.

According to the Sun, he was in for something short term (armed robbery) and then added to his sentence when he killed the inmate (potentially for white supremacist reasons).
Title: Re: Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail
Post by: crazy canuck on June 22, 2017, 11:00:35 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 21, 2017, 03:22:29 PM
necro-bump

From the guy who hates puns