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Title: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 16, 2013, 02:24:01 PM
Anyone playing it? Grey Fox, I believe?

If anyone has a beta key, I wouldn't mind taking it. :)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 16, 2013, 02:24:40 PM
Yes!

If I ever come across another one, I'll send it your way.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 16, 2013, 02:35:43 PM
That'd be sweet. :)

What's your impressions of the game?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Cecil on December 16, 2013, 02:44:14 PM
I play it as well. Its a fun little timewaster although the balance is a joke atm, and I´m not sure any cardgame this simple can be balanced. Best thing they can do is a rock paper scissors approach.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 16, 2013, 02:49:06 PM
I like it alot, I play almost everyday.

Presentation wise. It has the the World of Warcraft feel & already has the Blizzard polish with complete voice over & battle animation and of certain cards. Runs pretty smoothly, despite still having a couple of card placement & alt-tab bugs.

Gameplay wise. I have never played another TCG seriously. It's very easy to pick up compared to MTG mostly because of it's smaller deck size(30 cards) and land/resource management done automatically.

The 9 WoW Class Heroes do provide for a lot of the variety of style even if the number of cards available is still very limited (280).

Reading on different forums, people have trouble understanding that a traditional TCG doesn't reward you everytiime you play it, like a video game usually does. I've seen alot of complaints on how to acrue daily quest rewards/gold, you have to play against random strangers while playing your friends gives you nothing.

The Metagame is crazy & moves very fast. I've been in the Beta since early October & it has already moved into it's 4th best-way-to-win-system.

The Arena sucks, fuck the Arena.

That said, the game needs alot of new features. More stat tracking, replays of your games, meta features, etc.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Sophie Scholl on December 16, 2013, 03:11:24 PM
I got into the beta and am quite enjoying what little I've played.  I used to play Magic, Star Wars, and The Lord of the Rings in terms of CCG's in the past.  While a lot more "simple", I think I actually enjoy that simplicity.  It makes for quicker, smoother games.  I basically unlocked the paladin deck and played with exclusively that so far.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 16, 2013, 04:04:48 PM
Quote from: Cecil on December 16, 2013, 02:44:14 PM
I play it as well. Its a fun little timewaster although the balance is a joke atm, and I´m not sure any cardgame this simple can be balanced. Best thing they can do is a rock paper scissors approach.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 19, 2013, 09:44:55 AM
Got my beta key (which, knowing my luck, probably means they go open beta in a day or two :P ).

I probably won't get around to playing before the weekend, though.

I've been watching TotalBiscuit's ranked games with deck made of legendaries only - rather hilarious. :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 19, 2013, 10:03:17 AM
I need to watch that.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 19, 2013, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 19, 2013, 10:03:17 AM
I need to watch that.

He made it to 20, but it seems it's pretty much luck based by now, because he has barely anything for the early game on that deck.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on December 19, 2013, 08:03:36 PM
I used to follow that guy to see new dungeon bosses in WoW. I've seen also some Hearthstone stuff. The one he played with Legendaries against a Rogue (who promptly crushed him in a couple turns) was hilarious.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 19, 2013, 11:26:11 PM
He's currently my preferred games reviewer as he appears to have largely similar tastes to mine. He also sounds to me like a younger version RH. :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on December 20, 2013, 01:14:02 AM
TotalBiscuit is definitely the best games reviewer that I pay frequent attention to.   :)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 20, 2013, 07:04:28 AM
I won my 100th victory last night. 300 gold reward :cool:

Now over 1k gold.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 20, 2013, 04:59:07 PM
I've unlocked all chars and have begun playing ranked matches. I'm playing Warrior mostly (my class from when I played WoW in 2005), though I may change to Hunter.

Just had a fun game against a mage ... I kept getting rid of his minions, and had enough armor to shrug off his attacks. I finished him with a Raging Worgen on which I cast Inner Rage (+ 1 attack from enrage, + 2 attack from Inner Rage = 6 attack) and rampage (+3 attack, +3 health). Damaging the Worgen also triggers whirlwind. I hit him for 18 damage. :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 20, 2013, 08:54:11 PM
You gotta love getting synergy like that. How many packs did you buy?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 21, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 20, 2013, 08:54:11 PM
You gotta love getting synergy like that. How many packs did you buy?

I bought 15.  :blush: I figured it was the price of an indie game, so why not.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 22, 2013, 04:25:18 AM
I'm starting to like the hunter a fair bit. You get good skills to take out your opponent's minions, and with beast minions and taunts (esp. taunts) you can (theoretically) become quite a nuisance. Round this out with Faceless Manipulators and you can have a good thing going there.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 22, 2013, 11:14:44 AM
I think I'll leave my warrior for now. I have trouble keeping board control with him even when the cards come up right, but I just got Murloc rushed so badly by a Warlock who was hiding behind taunts that I had to concede on turn 5. :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 22, 2013, 01:52:53 PM
Try a mage, load up on frost cards. Enjoy your victories.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on December 22, 2013, 02:08:09 PM
I want a beta key!

How does one get one, other than asking Blizzard for one?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 22, 2013, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 22, 2013, 02:08:09 PM
I want a beta key!

How does one get one, other than asking Blizzard for one?

Just go opt-in for it on your battle.net account. On the 19th, Blizzard said that everyone who had opt-in was sent keys.

There's always raffles from Twitch.tv streamers & a couple other websites.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on December 22, 2013, 02:28:59 PM
I just did that today though...maybe they will send out more keys soon...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 22, 2013, 03:04:19 PM
The public beta is supposed to start on the 7th, I think? Until then all battle.net users who signed up should get a key.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 22, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
Spent some gold & I finally got a pack with some nice cards. I don't have a prefered class, I just play rank with the daily quests classes.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Kleves on December 22, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
Do they already let you spend real money in the game? Are they not going to wipe your account at the end of the beta?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 22, 2013, 08:55:18 PM
They let you spend money yes, always did.

They said they don't plan on any more wipes but it's beta, we never know.

Last wipe, they gave gold equivalent to how much you spent in the store.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 22, 2013, 11:39:36 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 22, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
Spent some gold & I finally got a pack with some nice cards. I don't have a prefered class, I just play rank with the daily quests classes.

I'm currently focusing on unlocking the base cards with all classes ... gonna take some time, I guess.

I find the game highly addictive, though, and it's tempting to splurge on card packs to round out your deck (and I guess this will be worse once the inevitable expansions come out). The keys to a good deck is to balance the curve right (low cost vs. high cost cards), and to be flexible and create as many synergies as possible. You could build your deck around two, maybe three killer combos, but how likely is it to get the cards when you need them, and in the right order?

It's a pretty fast paced game, and while it relies to some degree on luck (the cards from your deck of 30 come in random order), but as said, making sure you have cards that work in combo not only with one but many cards in your deck helps mitigate that. And you still have to make the most of what you draw, taking into account what's on your board, what your opponent *might* have in his hand and deck, and what you still have in your deck. It does a few things that would be not impossible but difficult in a real card game (e.g. some cards have effects on random other cards, lots of buffs to keep track off, etc.).

That said, some classes seem more powerful than others at the moment - playing warrior can be very frustrating, mages are pretty much the go to class for an easy game, though they keep nerfing them (e.g. increasin costs on some of their abilities). Hopefully this will be balanced out better in the future.

I tried getting into Magic the Gathering with one of the Planeswalker games, but it was too much of a chore for me. Hearthstone is accessible and easy to learn, but that doesn't mean that it's dumb IMO. Is it pay to win? Getting more cards gives you more flexibility, sure, and some cards are really very useful, but at the end of the day it depends on what you do with them.

If you look into buying cards it's important to keep in mind that you can't trade with other players. Each deck can have only two or (in case of legendaries) one copy of a certain card. However, you can "disenchant" any excess cards into dust and use it to craft a specific card you want; you get a quarter of what it costs to craft the card from disenchanting. There's also gold versions of each card, but these give you no bonus over what the non-gold version does and just look fancier. However, they disenchant at the full value of a non-gold card.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on December 23, 2013, 02:20:37 PM
Have you tried the Arena? There it's not P2W it's Pay to Play.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 23, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
I did my free round, but I didn't get far, because I hadn't played much. I don't really want to pay for playing it and then potentially (or: likely) get eliminated in three games.

I like the idea of it, but I find the entrance hurdle too steep atm.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Scipio on December 24, 2013, 06:10:26 PM
Shit, son, this game is tough.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on December 25, 2013, 12:47:59 AM
Ran into a 'lock who ROFLstomped me in a hilarious way. (I was hunter.)

He kept my stuff off the board, and I didn't get my removal cards when I needed them. So he had buffed up two small demons with other cheap cards and then merged two of them with a void terror (or walker?), creating a 12/10 card on which he applied a taunt buff. And then, a turn later, he duplicated the thing with a faceless manipulator. Talk about a world of hurt.

Scip: I found the videos from TotalBiscuit pretty helpful (his Lord of the Arena series) for basic tactics. Also, when you play for a while you will get a feeling for what cards to expect from which opponents, when it makes sense to gun for minions and when for the opponent, when to play "bullet magnets" or baits, and which opponent cards have to go a.s.a.p. (e.g. questing adventurer, most cards with windfury etc.).
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 11, 2014, 02:00:09 AM
Fucking mage pyroblast cunt shit cock whore fuck!  :ultra:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: katmai on January 11, 2014, 02:24:13 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 11, 2014, 02:00:09 AM
Fucking mage pyroblast cunt shit cock whore fuck!  :ultra:

Seedy is that you?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 11, 2014, 02:43:06 AM
 :P

It's just that Pyroblast is IMHO the most retarded card in the game. Starting turn 8 (you reach max mana/action points on turn 10) a mage can deal 10 direct damage that can't be blocked, provided he has drawn the card by then, for which there is a pretty good chance. You start with 30 health, so 10 damage means 1/3 of your total health pool. And they can put that card in their deck twice.

If you play a character that doesn't have inherent heal abilities (like priest, or pally) and can't armor up (like warrior) you're rather screwed unless you have created a crazy board advantage (which the mage has some silly AOEs that can negate that VERY quickly).

I find the best way to go into a game against a mage is to presume I only have 10 health to begin with.

As in the last game: my rogue was keeping the pressure up. On turn 8 I had five minions on the board, he had none. I had 10 health, he had one. Mage turn, pyroblast, gg.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Sophie Scholl on January 11, 2014, 04:27:20 AM
So... the whole mages being OP is a Blizzard wide phenomenon instead of just a WoW thing?  Huh.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on January 11, 2014, 10:08:22 AM
Pretty much, someone at Blizz really like their Black Mages in FF.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 11, 2014, 10:48:22 AM
Mages are fine, l2p.  :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Kleves on January 17, 2014, 06:04:41 PM
I just got into the beta a few days ago. It's pretty addicting. I've already spent real money.  :blush:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 18, 2014, 03:02:11 AM
Had a fun round as druid in arena yesterday. Playing against a priest, we were pretty much trading minions tit for tat without anyone gaining the upper hand. He had 24 health, I had 17. Around turn 12 or so I had a boulderfist ogre (6/7) and a buffed, damaged frostwolf champion (6/4) on board, and he had a rogue's gallery of mid range minions - 4 or 5 with 2 to 4 attack  - out but no taunt.

My turn and I look at my hand. "Hm, can deal 12 damage. Hang on, I got the buff that gives all your characters +2 attack. Oh, and I have a creature buff that gives one minion +4. And I have claw that gives me +2 again."

:unsure:

:menace:

Hit him for 24 damage that turn and won the game - Boulderfist hit him for 12, frostwolf for 8, and I for 4.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on March 12, 2014, 11:53:09 PM
Man, I've become kind of addicted to this. Haven't spent any money though, but it is a lot of fun.

I am surprised that there aren't any interrupts of any kind - seems kind of like maybe a flaw in the game, that you really can't respond to the other players actions during their turn.

Berkut

Friend me.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Kleves on March 13, 2014, 01:24:52 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2014, 11:53:09 PM
I am surprised that there aren't any interrupts of any kind - seems kind of like maybe a flaw in the game, that you really can't respond to the other players actions during their turn.
Secrets kind of fulfill this role.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Kleves on March 13, 2014, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2014, 11:53:09 PM
Friend me.
What's your Battle Net tag?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on March 14, 2014, 01:07:30 AM
Berkut
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on March 14, 2014, 06:20:53 AM
There's numbers. They matter.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on March 17, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
Started out 4-0 in the Arena last night, ended up 4-3. Man, I was pissed.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on March 31, 2014, 09:30:16 AM
Just got into this.  Impressively well done.  I particularly liked the one player who kept on hitting emotes after every turn.  I think he was trying to troll/insult me, but it just came across as idiotic.

If anyone can explain why my Druid deck does as well as it does, even against other Druid decks, i'd like to know.  I have one Druid expert card so it definitely isn't card advantage.  It isn't even that imaginatively put together.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on April 02, 2014, 01:07:48 PM
Finally got into this, and of course the servers go down during my second arena game.  :mad:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on April 02, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
I am still playing.

Just played a ranked game against a guy who had nothing but Rare and Legendaries in his deck. It was not pretty.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on April 02, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
I've only played a handful games. Highlight so far, a mage that put his first minions down at turn 8, with 5 HP left.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on April 02, 2014, 01:48:39 PM
I still play.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Kleves on April 02, 2014, 04:29:07 PM
I still play every once in awhile. What are your Battlenet names?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on April 02, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
Iormlund#2551
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on April 02, 2014, 05:55:29 PM
Berkut#1576
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on April 02, 2014, 06:41:02 PM
frunkee#1189
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on April 03, 2014, 06:50:12 AM
Arthois#1869


Ipad version is out in Canada & ANZAC. USA is coming soon.

Sorry, Berk.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on April 03, 2014, 08:15:53 AM
Oh man, an iPad version. That is sweet...

Why sorry GF?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on April 03, 2014, 09:26:23 AM
I expect that with that information, I've just ruined your life.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on April 03, 2014, 09:36:01 PM
We can now chat with our B.net friends thru the B.net Launcher.

That's awesome.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on April 04, 2014, 02:55:37 AM
Sent a bunch of friend requests. Newbie warning though. :P


Hmmm ... thinking of shelving Mind Control. It's ridiculously good on paper, but I can't think of a game it has won me yet plenty where I have drawn it so early it has killed me.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on April 04, 2014, 06:25:39 AM
I hadn't played in a while. Damn, I have no idea how to beat anyone anymore.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on April 04, 2014, 07:51:07 AM
My Paladin deck seems to be terrible and I rebuilt it three times.  I think I was on an 8 or 9 loss streak before I won my first ranked game with them.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on April 04, 2014, 12:17:04 PM
$%·"%!%$52" mages! <_<

Seriously, WTF.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Valmy on April 04, 2014, 12:19:22 PM
When you play a mage deck do you need to stop and eat and drink after every game?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on April 04, 2014, 12:33:45 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on April 05, 2014, 01:07:50 PM
First arena: druid, 2 victories.
Second arena: paladin, 4 victories.
Third arena: mage, 9 fucking victories.

:wacko:

Seriously, WTF.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on April 05, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
Yeah, the mage is just broken.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on April 06, 2014, 04:43:59 AM
I think the main problem is the mage hero ability. It allows you to trade up minions regularly without repercussions, whereas similar abilities are subjected to Taunt and carry a health penalty (druid and especially rogue) or require board advantage in the first place (priest, paladin).

Then on top of it you have Fireball, Flamestrike, Sheep, Blizzard, the elemental ...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on April 30, 2014, 07:06:03 AM
I've played a couple of games the last two nights. My favorite class is Rogue at the moment (followed by Hunter). I'm trying a few of the builds from Hearthpwn, and having fun tuning them to my style of play which is keeping the opponent off the board with a combination of combos, spells and low cost minions. It's really amusing if cheesy at times, but if an opponent manages to get into the late game I'm usually toast. :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on May 03, 2014, 07:52:11 AM
I finally have enough Priest cards to build an effective deck and damn if it isn't fun.  It feels more Roguey than the Rogue.  Copying cards, stealing minions, switching attack and health around, switching damage and healing around.  It seems to do quite well against the Mage too.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on May 05, 2014, 06:24:51 AM
Already got to rank 19 this season, wasn't too hard but now it'll get way harder since I cannot pick a class. I play whatever the daily is, makes for collecting cards harder.

I'm partial to Shaman, Hunter & Rogues. Haven't had a Priest daily in so long, can't remember them.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on May 05, 2014, 07:00:46 AM
I've played some hilarious non-ladder matches with a priest and all kinds of "cheap" cards I could get - everything that copies enemy cards, steals their minions, plus some card draw. It's not gonna win any prizes but it's all kinds of hilarious when you keep beating your opponents with their own cards all the time. :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on May 05, 2014, 07:02:58 AM
My general pattern is to play the Arena if it matches my daily, or I have enough gold to buy another Arena ticket.  Otherwise I play ranked matches until I'm ranked one better than my best last month.  Otherwise I play casual.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on May 05, 2014, 01:44:52 PM
Had a game with my Priest against a Mage, and it was the luckiest draw for me, ever. The Mage quit when he still had 22 health left (I was at 30). Ragnaros was played 4 times: 1st, me putting out a random minion from the opponent's deck. He polymorphs it after it killed one of his minions. Then I draw the regular one from my deck and play it - the mage has a secret that duplicates it. Unfortunately for him, my Rag kills his. Next turn he plays his regular Rag. It kills my 2/1 loot hoarder. Next turn, my Rag kills his, again. Mage ragequits. :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on May 05, 2014, 01:59:30 PM
Hearthstone!

I have no Legendary.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on May 05, 2014, 03:23:36 PM
I have the Dinosaur, but I haven't really played a game in weeks. It just seems so luck dependant. Oh, look, no board clearance while the other dude has five flamestrikes, I'm fucked!
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on May 05, 2014, 03:46:42 PM
The Arena is a lot more enjoyable than Ranked.  When you get to the higher level ranked matches where your opponent plays 3-4 Legendary cards in a row and you own 2 total it's less fun.  In the Arena I can tell when I've built a good deck, or a crappy one that goes 0-3.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Iormlund on May 05, 2014, 03:55:05 PM
Yeah, but it's the same there as well. Luck when making a deck, luck when drawing cards.

I guess my main gripe with the game is how game-changing board clearance is. You are basically fucked if you have none and your opponent does.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on May 05, 2014, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on May 05, 2014, 03:55:05 PM
Yeah, but it's the same there as well. Luck when making a deck, luck when drawing cards.

I guess my main gripe with the game is how game-changing board clearance is. You are basically fucked if you have none and your opponent does.

I think there's a few spells that are way out of whack for their costs.  The board clearing ones are at the top of the list, particularly the Mage ones that usually don't have any downside.  I think there needs to be some board clearing methods in all decks, otherwise weenie hordes would be too powerful.  Right now they aren't particularly well balanced between the different decks, and in some cases the good ones for a deck are only available from packs/crafting. 

There are other generic cards that are too good and show up in almost every deck I see.  Man those are dull, especially considering all the cards that never show up.

I had fun including Angry Chicken in my Priest deck.  I got him up to 1/6 in one game, ready to enrage him but my opponent wiped the poor fowl out.  that was compliment enough.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on May 07, 2014, 01:55:36 PM
Ugh, three straight games where the mad bomber did two damage to me and one damage to one of my minions (not one with enrage).
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on May 07, 2014, 04:19:50 PM
Thats the mad bomber for you.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on May 08, 2014, 05:18:19 AM
Just had my best Arena run - went 8-3 with a very nice Tempo mage deck.

All three losses were to...another mage.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on May 08, 2014, 05:20:54 AM
I recently earned enough gold to try arena again. I went mage, but my deck was extreme weaksauce. In my second game I got completely stomped by a Rogue on turn 7 or 8, when he took me down from 25 health. Total 0-3. :blush:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on May 08, 2014, 06:26:05 AM
In the mist of a 10 game losing streak, I decided to try an arena run.

I've only done the draw, it's a shaman deck. I am going to go 0-3.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on May 08, 2014, 08:01:47 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 08, 2014, 06:26:05 AM
In the mist of a 10 game losing streak, I decided to try an arena run.

I've only done the draw, it's a shaman deck. I am going to go 0-3.

I once had three straight arena decks go 0-3.  That was a bad run.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on May 08, 2014, 09:08:02 AM
I don't play it often. I'm bad at draft. I only have 6, overall, Arena wins.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on May 08, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
I think 2 things have improved my win rate a lot:

1. Synergies. The game is all about synergies. A awesome card that doesn't synergize well probably isn't that awesome.
2. Tempo. Holy crap, this is even bigger than #1. Tempo, tempo, tempo. My entire strat for the mage deck was built around ending each round with one more minion than the other guy. I play a minion, he plays a minion. I play another minion, and use my first to kill his. He plays a minion. I play another one, and kill his new one with mine. The choices I make for cards are almost completely driven by an evaluation of their mana cost versus their ability to trade at a favorable rate, ie can my 3 cost minion trade with your 5 cost minion? If so, I win. You keep that tempo even just a bit in your favor, and mid game it snowballs and it is done.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on May 09, 2014, 12:22:33 PM
It's not just minion tempo, there's also card tempo.  I'm more than willing to let my opponent get up a 1/1 minion on me if it means he had to spend two more cards than me to do it.  Mid-game if we are about equal in board position the person with a 2-3 card in hand advantage should probably win the match.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on May 09, 2014, 12:29:07 PM
I find the key is:
- board control
- trying to have more cards in your hand than your opponent (i.e. pace yourself)

Synergies are great, but only if you have several among multiple cards (i.e. you're not dependent on having two cards out of your 30 to come up to have your killer combo). And, of course, you can bait unaware opponents if you have mass removal or an insta-kill. Nothing like removing the powerful minion or the one they spent a few cards to buff up.

For pressure I like rogues (there's some neat builds out there geared towards just keeping the board clean) and hunter with its traps and beasts which have some rather awesome synergies. Druid has a few neat ones, too.

Still enjoying my priest, though. It's fun, because it's unpredictable (for me and my opponent), because I have no idea what cards I'm going to nab from them; and it can be hilariously cheesy (or fizzle badly for me). Though in one instance I had "acquired" three Stormwind Champions who buffed each other for a total of 24 damage. I hit my opponent, but overlooked that he was only 1 damage shy of lethal with his minions and lost on next turn.  :blush:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on May 12, 2014, 08:18:31 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 08, 2014, 09:08:02 AM
I don't play it often. I'm bad at draft. I only have 6, overall, Arena wins.

Yep 0-3.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on May 12, 2014, 08:28:46 AM
I thought I had drafted a decent druid deck yesterday, really solid, nothing too fancy. And went 0-3.  :blush:

I'm kinda looking froward to their single player campaign, though. That might change, however, when I see the pricing model (will it be a one time charge, or every time you want to run the quasi instance?).
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on May 24, 2014, 09:27:51 PM
Just went on a epic win streak.

Using my Hunter deck, I went from rank 20 to 13 before I had a loss. I think it was 12 straight wins.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on May 26, 2014, 01:47:52 AM
I really like the board control and synergies a hunter can create with his cards.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on May 27, 2014, 12:12:01 AM
The super aggro lock deck is just killing the game. I just went 1-5 against the same deck 6 times. Lock lock lock lock lock lock. And the exact same deck each time.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on May 27, 2014, 07:26:47 AM
A deck is always killing the game. A new one will emerge when we get new cards.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on May 27, 2014, 08:51:24 AM
True. My bitch might be just a generic bitch about the nature of these kinds of games. This is the first one that I've ever actually put even a modicum of thought into...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on May 27, 2014, 10:00:51 AM
I think it is but I also think it's the first time that the mainstream MinMaxers get their hands on one of those. This is more than just the MTG crowd, it's the WoW Raiders this time.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on May 27, 2014, 10:45:26 AM
It's a function of the card set not being particularly mature.  At best there are going to be some decks that dominate others, but ideally it should be of the nature of a rock/paper/scissors battle between competing strategies.  Right now Hearthstone doesn't have that, primarily because there are certain powers/cards that are outright better than others and don't have good counters.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on July 20, 2014, 07:12:51 AM
I keep playing my gimmicky priest now and then, and I added Lorewalker Cho for more hilarity (whenever someone plays a spell, the opponent gets a copy of it into their hand).

It's the kind of deck that can have you dead on turn 7, or win a game with Ragnaros, 3 8/8 frostwolf champions and a 4/14 taunt on your side of the board.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on July 20, 2014, 08:41:20 AM
I picked up Magic 2015, and man is it refreshing to have deckbuilder with interesting choices.  I still hate the land system of Magic (gives too many swingy draws), the interface isn't nearly as slick and polished as Hearthstone, the pace of play is slower (it has to be due to the more complicated interactions) but the deckbuilding interface is well designed and lets you quickly build fun and funky decks.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on August 06, 2014, 04:08:10 AM
Just played against another priest (need to make it back to rank 20 for the card back ...). At turn 9 I had two Mogushan Wardens with 9/9.

Mogushan Warden: 1/7, stolen from him with Mindgames.
Added two health with Shield.
Used divine spirit to bring up set attack to the same value as health.
On his turn he didn't damage it.
So next turn I used Void Walker.

Obviously my opponent, with 9 health left, then thought, "fuck it, might at least go out in style." He doubled health for one of my Wardens, added two health, doubled health again and then used Divine Spirit, so that I could kill him with a 40/40 Warden. :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on August 14, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
I really got into this game. Favourite classes are Mage and Warrior. And the adventure mode with Naxxramas is fun.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on August 14, 2014, 04:17:25 AM
I'm bored and on holidays, so I installed this thing today. I used to be in Paradox's raiding guild back in the time, so there's a bit of nostalgia at play.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on August 15, 2014, 10:25:38 AM
Well, this is fun. Cleared the Spider wing of Naxxramas even quicker than we did back in proper WoW.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on August 15, 2014, 11:09:26 AM
Wait till you get to the Construct wing, celed. That second boss is a bitch.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on August 15, 2014, 11:11:08 AM
By the way, has anyone noticed there is a trend in game style (in terms of speed/cautiousness) based on a class people play?

I absolutely hate people who take ages to play their turn - and it seems to me Priests are much worse at it than any other class. It seems Warriors, Mages and Hunters, on the other hand, play their turn the fastest.

I wonder if there is a correlation between personality and a class choice.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on August 20, 2014, 07:36:12 AM
The new cards have opened up the play space a bit.  I have a Druid Deathrattle deck that is really quite nasty.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on August 20, 2014, 07:40:41 AM
Likewise. I am having a lot of fun with my Priest deathrattle deck.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 12, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
More Hunter nerfs.  :yeah:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on September 12, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
Lame!


What is happening?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on September 12, 2014, 03:31:36 PM
QuoteStarving Buzzard, which was key to several Hunter class strategies, will now cost five mana (up from two) and will become a three attack and two health card, up from two attack and one health. Fine, fine, we hunters will just have to Unleash the Hounds a little later.

That doesn't sound so bad. Changes how it works a bit, but doesn't really fundamentally change too much - it just becomes more of a mid game combo than early, and has a little more resilience to it.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 12, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
It's a pretty serious change coupled with the Leeroy shift.  Very much a needed nerf considering the current dominance of Hunter on the ladder.  This should see Priest and Warrior get a bit more popular, I think.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on September 13, 2014, 01:46:47 AM
I gotta say my favourite is still my mage spell/secret heavy deck. But then I never got above 9th rank so...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on September 14, 2014, 01:52:46 AM
One thing I hope they'd change is shorten the duration of a turn. It is atrociously long currently.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on September 15, 2014, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 12, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
It's a pretty serious change coupled with the Leeroy shift.  Very much a needed nerf considering the current dominance of Hunter on the ladder.  This should see Priest and Warrior get a bit more popular, I think.

My last time playing saw Priest as 3 out of 4 opponents.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on September 15, 2014, 09:52:06 AM
I was playing last night, and had the "Win two games as a warrior/pallie" quest. Went from rank 13 to rank 18 trying to get those two wins, and gave up.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 15, 2014, 11:28:56 AM
Quote from: frunk on September 15, 2014, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 12, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
It's a pretty serious change coupled with the Leeroy shift.  Very much a needed nerf considering the current dominance of Hunter on the ladder.  This should see Priest and Warrior get a bit more popular, I think.

My last time playing saw Priest as 3 out of 4 opponents.

Your statement and mine are not mutually-exclusive.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 15, 2014, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: Berkut on September 15, 2014, 09:52:06 AM
I was playing last night, and had the "Win two games as a warrior/pallie" quest. Went from rank 13 to rank 18 trying to get those two wins, and gave up.

There's a "Casual" button...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on September 15, 2014, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 15, 2014, 11:28:56 AM

Your statement and mine are not mutually-exclusive.

I wasn't contradicting you.  I think it's people prepping Hunter alternatives.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on September 15, 2014, 12:37:04 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 15, 2014, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: Berkut on September 15, 2014, 09:52:06 AM
I was playing last night, and had the "Win two games as a warrior/pallie" quest. Went from rank 13 to rank 18 trying to get those two wins, and gave up.

There's a "Casual" button...

I never, ever, ever play casual.

To me, that is like playing poker with fake money.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on September 15, 2014, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 15, 2014, 09:52:06 AM
I was playing last night, and had the "Win two games as a warrior/pallie" quest. Went from rank 13 to rank 18 trying to get those two wins, and gave up.

There should be a way to deliberately drop a few ranks without having to lose games.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on September 15, 2014, 06:31:38 PM
I play unranked when I get a quest I don't have a good deck for. I find it easier.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 15, 2014, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: celedhring on September 15, 2014, 06:31:38 PM
I play unranked when I get a quest I don't have a good deck for. I find it easier.

Ayuh.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 AM
Went 11-3 in arena last night.  I am really annoyed at myself for not getting that last win.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on September 28, 2014, 08:26:01 PM
What deck?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 28, 2014, 11:57:10 PM
What hero?  :unsure:

Was a Paladin.  Last game was against a mage who got three Flamestrikes in a row.  I overcommitted after the second, not expecting a third.  Game over.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on September 29, 2014, 02:55:22 AM
I never do well in the arena. :(
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 29, 2014, 12:52:14 PM
If you want to improve your arena game, do some digging around on Icy Veins and take a look at their priority lists.  Also read the primer there on arenas and getting value for your cards in general.

In addition, the YouTube streamer Trump is widely-regarded as one of the best arena players and you'd learn a lot from watching him in action.  He recently began a training series to test deck-building skills along with providing explanations for why you'd pick one over another :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDwE1mAHOaM
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on September 29, 2014, 01:31:55 PM
When you are 25-~20 ranks, Casual can actually be harder.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 29, 2014, 03:20:00 PM
That's not really saying much, though. At those ranks, you're up against people that forget to do basic things like attack with their minions.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on September 29, 2014, 06:02:54 PM
That's true.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 29, 2014, 11:47:33 PM
Sigh.  Happened again.

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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 29, 2014, 11:49:43 PM
At least the rewards are good.

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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on September 30, 2014, 07:38:41 AM
Hey that's me! Always online.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on September 30, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
Man, I just really, really suck. Had *two* 0-3 trips into the Arena last night.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on September 30, 2014, 09:29:18 AM
I've had runs much worse than that.  I was getting pretty good, 4 decks in a row with 5-8 wins.  Then I tried to complete a 2 win rogue quest with Arena decks.  4 decks, 1 win, and that when my opponent forfeited on the second turn.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 30, 2014, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 30, 2014, 07:38:41 AM
Hey that's me! Always online.

:lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on September 30, 2014, 09:57:09 AM
Quote from: Berkut on September 30, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
Man, I just really, really suck. Had *two* 0-3 trips into the Arena last night.

My coaching fees are very modest.  :shifty:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on September 30, 2014, 09:58:30 AM
I suck at the arena, I've ever only won 3 games overall.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on October 02, 2014, 02:35:23 AM
Do you guys think there should be a limit on the number of legendary cards in a deck? Obviously, they do not always win (I had a lot of great time winning with a bunch of lowly commons and rares against someone busting Ragnaros, Ysera and Leeroy Jenkins in a short sequence) but sometimes it just seems unfair. I think you should be able to win thanks to your skill and card combos/synergies, not because of a couple of "I WIN" cards.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on October 02, 2014, 09:03:32 AM
I am thinking about banning you from the gaming forum until you drop the SB Orion game you fucked us all on. That is what I think.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on October 02, 2014, 09:06:31 AM
They should implement private tournaments.

Here how it could work:

Someone could organize a tournament, and define a buy in price in gold. That gold would then go towards purchasing Arena matches between the tournament participants, with some kind of reward for the winners/placers. You could make up what essentially amounts to the very popular among the magic crowd weekly FtF tournaments.

You could even provide the various levels of ability to customize the rules - shared pack draws, etc., etc.

I think that would be super fun.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on October 02, 2014, 09:09:03 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 02, 2014, 02:35:23 AM
Do you guys think there should be a limit on the number of legendary cards in a deck? Obviously, they do not always win (I had a lot of great time winning with a bunch of lowly commons and rares against someone busting Ragnaros, Ysera and Leeroy Jenkins in a short sequence) but sometimes it just seems unfair. I think you should be able to win thanks to your skill and card combos/synergies, not because of a couple of "I WIN" cards.

The problem is the way Blizzard structured the cards.  Rarer cards should make available different or unusual strategies rather than making the main ones stronger.  The bigger problem is that there isn't enough variety in the "good" cards and there are way too many crappy ones out there that have no business showing up in any deck regardless of strategy.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on October 02, 2014, 11:43:23 AM
A limit on the number of legendaries wouldn't fix anything.  The problem, as frunk said, is that the epics/legendaries simply get assigned more "points" and so are much more powerful than anything below.  I do think the curve is a bit messed up because of that.

That being said, I don't mind the number of legendaries anyway.  I think they lead to some very interesting decks at the upper tiers.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on October 02, 2014, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 02, 2014, 09:03:32 AM
I am thinking about banning you from the gaming forum until you drop the SB Orion game you fucked us all on. That is what I think.

Done.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on October 06, 2014, 08:22:36 AM
Ramp Druid is a lot of fun.

Faceless Manipulator is a great card - not OP, but always useful.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on October 06, 2014, 09:48:47 PM
Ramp Druid/Token Druid is definitely one of the more fun decks.  Faceless Manipulator is just hilarious when it works to good effect.  I especially enjoy it in my HandLock deck.  Copy a 9/9 Molten Giant, then Shadowflame the board = fun.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on October 15, 2014, 05:10:50 PM
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:yeah:

Made it to rank 6.  Game was against a bot, but whatever.  Lots of Shaman-bots on the ladder, lately.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on October 15, 2014, 08:42:00 PM
Nice!

I don't think I will ever break about ten. Just not meta enough. Was that your priest deck? Seems like it is all priest decks now...

What is the advantage of botting? How do you know you are playing a bot?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on October 15, 2014, 08:49:33 PM
Nah, my ladder climbing is exclusively with my Handlock deck.  I tried priest for a time, but it doesn't seem to do it for me.  I might switch back if I face a lot of Hunters or other people gunning for Warlocks in the higher ranks.

The advantage of botting is that you get a lot of "free" gold, climb ranks at a relatively stable pace without having to do anything and eventually unlock the golden Shaman, for whatever that's worth.  You will know you're playing against a bot from a few indicators.  If you go up against a Shaman and they play in a very deliberately-timed manner on even the most obvious of moves (read : taking 2-3 seconds per attack when there is nothing to attack except the other player), odds are you're up against a bot.  The targeting indicator arrows going all over the place is another sign.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on October 15, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
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:yeah:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on October 27, 2014, 12:03:28 AM
I'm rank 4 now, on the cusp of 3.  Not sure if I'll have time to hit Legend this season, unfortunately.  We'll see.

I have been keeping a tally of what classes I've gone up against, though.  This is pretty much only games at the upper ranks (6-3).

Warrior : 11
Hunter : 24
Priest : 8
Handlock : 4
Zoo-Lock : 11 (some bots, mostly not)
Shaman : 16 (so many bots...)
Druid : 3
Rogue : 4
Paladin : 2
Mage : 4
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on December 09, 2014, 11:30:13 PM
:yeah:

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Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 19, 2015, 05:00:26 AM
Had some extra gold, so I played arena.

Bested my record (4 wins!  :blush: ). Best loss: against a 4x Ironbark Protector Druid. :lol:

First Protector: burned, because his hand was full. Second: silenced by me (was going for the kill at the point).

Then he pulls out #3 and #4 on consecutive turns.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 05:06:20 AM
My record so far is 7 wins in the arena.

For non-Arena games, my favourite deck right now is a Warlock "handlock" with giants, lots of self heals, and the warlock-only legendary card (Lord Something). It is great fun to watch the opponent with 20-something health bring me down to 2 or 3 and be sure of victory - only to see me jump back with molten giants and whatnot.

By the way - am I the only one who finds people who tell you "Well Played" right before killing you to be assholes? I usually use "Well Played" when I am genuinely impressed with my opponent's play (e.g. when they pull off some cool gambit or synergy between their cards - like a Priest with the Auchenai Soulpriest and Baron Rivendare killing off his zombies to actually hurt me badly) and not to rub my win in the opponent's face.

Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 19, 2015, 05:14:34 AM
I've updated my "I Steal your stuff" priest. I've removed buffs and instead added cards that will summon random other cards/transform minions. Not very competitive, but fun in its randomness.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 19, 2015, 05:15:42 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 05:06:20 AMBy the way - am I the only one who finds people who tell you "Well Played" right before killing you to be assholes?

No, I consider it common courtesy. Equivalent of "gg" at the end of other MP games. If you read a sarcastic tone into it, the problem lies with you. :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on January 19, 2015, 05:35:52 AM
The latest expansion seems to up the randomness factor.  More spells that do random amounts of damage, minions that attack randomly, effect random opponents on summon or summon random minions on death.  Not sure I like it much, despite there being some other pretty good ideas in it.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 05:38:48 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 19, 2015, 05:15:42 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 05:06:20 AMBy the way - am I the only one who finds people who tell you "Well Played" right before killing you to be assholes?

No, I consider it common courtesy. Equivalent of "gg" at the end of other MP games. If you read a sarcastic tone into it, the problem lies with you. :P

I read it sarcastic. Especially if someone beats me 30:0. :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 19, 2015, 05:45:03 AM
I think it's meant to break meta a bit where the (natural) goal was to create the most efficient/effective deck. There'll still be decks that will be better than others, obviously, but players will have to learn to still play around the randomness (e.g. by reducing the number of targets for random attacks - "kills random enemy minion" becomes very calculable if there's only one enemy minion), and even if you eliminate it from your deck as much as possible, you'll still have to deal with lucky draws from your opponent.

I think the verdict whether this rewards good players for being able to handle the unforeseen or is too random is still out. And I'm sure Blizzard will keep tweaking it into a decent balance.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 19, 2015, 05:45:56 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 05:38:48 AM
I read it sarcastic. Especially if someone beats me 30:0. :P

You can make optimal plays and still lose 30-0. Doesn't mean that you played badly.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 19, 2015, 05:47:38 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 05:38:48 AM
I read it sarcastic. Especially if someone beats me 30:0. :P

Often people feel it's a requirement to congratulate their opponent regardless of how lopsided a contest is.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 19, 2015, 05:53:33 AM
As a priest, if I have nothing to play with 2 mana left, and my opponent or one of his minions has full health, I will occasionally threaten them ("The light shall burn you!") and cast heal on them. :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 07:34:59 AM
Usually, I say "Thank you" after I kick someone's ass. I use "Well Played" when I am genuinely impressed with something they have done.

My favourite recent play, as my Warlock, was when I was down to 10 Health at the beginning of my turn and the opponent has just managed to put Ragnaros and 3 or 4 smaller mobs (all with health around 4-5) on the board, with me having no mobs.

My move? Sylvanaras Windrunner followed by Shadowflame (which kills all his mobs save for Ragnaros - who then gets mindcontrolled by Sylvanas' death rattle).

Shit like this, if pulled by my opponent, makes me say "Well Played". :D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Scipio on January 19, 2015, 08:19:51 AM
If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day long, you're the asshole.

-The Tao of Raylan Givens
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on January 19, 2015, 09:41:01 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 19, 2015, 05:45:03 AM
I think it's meant to break meta a bit where the (natural) goal was to create the most efficient/effective deck. There'll still be decks that will be better than others, obviously, but players will have to learn to still play around the randomness (e.g. by reducing the number of targets for random attacks - "kills random enemy minion" becomes very calculable if there's only one enemy minion), and even if you eliminate it from your deck as much as possible, you'll still have to deal with lucky draws from your opponent.

I think the verdict whether this rewards good players for being able to handle the unforeseen or is too random is still out. And I'm sure Blizzard will keep tweaking it into a decent balance.

There was plenty of tolerable randomness before, the single biggest always being the luck of the draw.  Good decks could either build around certain strategies or guarantee high draw rate to make sure the desired power combos came up.  Increased randomness won't stop this, it just means that the well built decks will more frequently lose to lucky results.  The better way to handle this is to require increased deck size.  Right now 30 cards is probably a touch too small/too easy to build a tight deck around.  Looking at Magic it has a 60 card deck size, which if you subtract the standard 24 land puts you at 36 cards.  35 or 40 card decks would probably be better.  It dilutes the chances of drawing a single power card and allows greater diversity in deck builds.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on January 19, 2015, 02:38:05 PM
Quote from: Martinus on January 19, 2015, 05:06:20 AM
By the way - am I the only one who finds people who tell you "Well Played" right before killing you to be assholes? I usually use "Well Played" when I am genuinely impressed with my opponent's play (e.g. when they pull off some cool gambit or synergy between their cards - like a Priest with the Auchenai Soulpriest and Baron Rivendare killing off his zombies to actually hurt me badly) and not to rub my win in the opponent's face.

You may want to consider that other people in this world aren't giant assholes and that, instead, they are saying the equivalent of "Good game" to you.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on January 20, 2015, 08:20:24 AM
There is only one behavior that bothers me that isn't actively obstructionist.  The people who have to concede before they are killed.  They'll be a 1/4 second away from the final blow but they gotta rush in and get that concede in.  "No, you didn't kill me, I quit!"
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 20, 2015, 08:29:54 AM
It depends. If it's my turn and I have no play to stop getting murdered I'll concede. If it's not my turn and I usually let my opponent get the kill.

I had an opponent concede to me on turn 4 yesterday, when I pulled his core hound on turn 3 (coin + Mind Games). Was a bit premature, that.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on January 20, 2015, 08:36:21 AM
If he had a core hound in his deck, he was going to lose anyway.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 20, 2015, 08:42:56 AM
Yeah, it's not a brilliant card. For the cost of 4 I find it acceptable, though. :P

(Mind Games usually draws crap, e.g. Elven Archer, but without the Battelcry, but it has a bit of a chance to pull something insane from the opponent's deck)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 20, 2015, 08:44:23 AM
But yeah, as I mentioned I play my deck for the LOLZ, not the WINZ. :)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on January 20, 2015, 08:57:09 AM
Had somethign rather odd happen last night.

Was playing Priest in arena.

Played the mech that has a deathrattle that drops a random minion, and the minion that dropped was the 1-4 chick that heals you when she deals damage.

I attacked with her, and instead of healing me, she did 1 damage to me. 28 times. And I died, since I only had 25 health. And yes, that is right - she hit me 28 times in a row, for 1 damage each time, and I lost the game when I got to -3 life.

I suspect this was a bug.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on January 20, 2015, 09:48:47 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 20, 2015, 08:29:54 AM
It depends. If it's my turn and I have no play to stop getting murdered I'll concede. If it's not my turn and I usually let my opponent get the kill.

I find the early game conceders funny, but it doesn't bother me.   If you want to concede on your turn or when the situation is hopeless that is fine.  But to go to the explicit effort to be ready to concede just before the final blow is delivered (not earlier) is just bizarre.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 20, 2015, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 20, 2015, 08:57:09 AM
Had somethign rather odd happen last night.

Was playing Priest in arena.

Played the mech that has a deathrattle that drops a random minion, and the minion that dropped was the 1-4 chick that heals you when she deals damage.

I attacked with her, and instead of healing me, she did 1 damage to me. 28 times. And I died, since I only had 25 health. And yes, that is right - she hit me 28 times in a row, for 1 damage each time, and I lost the game when I got to -3 life.

I suspect this was a bug.

Priest has a few cards that switch healing to damage dealing. Might be you had a minion out that does that; I forget what it's called. But it still shouldn't apply it 28x.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on January 20, 2015, 10:57:11 AM
Nope, not Auchenai soul priest was out at the time. At least, I don't think there was...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on January 20, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: frunk on January 20, 2015, 09:48:47 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 20, 2015, 08:29:54 AM
It depends. If it's my turn and I have no play to stop getting murdered I'll concede. If it's not my turn and I usually let my opponent get the kill.

I find the early game conceders funny, but it doesn't bother me.   If you want to concede on your turn or when the situation is hopeless that is fine.  But to go to the explicit effort to be ready to concede just before the final blow is delivered (not earlier) is just bizarre.

Hah, it's funny how perceptions can differ from a person to a person. I find people who do not concede even if they will surely die next turn (for example they end their turn with no minions with taunt, no secrets and less health than the combined attack power of my minions on board) to be either stupid (they can't count) or assholes (they are counting on me dropping connection or misclicking so they still have a chance) but either way they are wasting my time. :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on January 20, 2015, 11:29:46 AM
You seem very focused on finding reasons to be mad at people.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on January 20, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
Quote from: frunk on January 20, 2015, 08:20:24 AM
There is only one behavior that bothers me that isn't actively obstructionist.  The people who have to concede before they are killed.  They'll be a 1/4 second away from the final blow but they gotta rush in and get that concede in.  "No, you didn't kill me, I quit!"

The biggest annoyance for me are the people that know they have lost the game, but that it will take 3-4 more turns to seal the deal.  They let the timer run out every turn, only for the game to boot them on the fourth turn or whatever of their not doing anything.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on January 20, 2015, 11:35:54 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 20, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Hah, it's funny how perceptions can differ from a person to a person. I find people who do not concede even if they will surely die next turn (for example they end their turn with no minions with taunt, no secrets and less health than the combined attack power of my minions on board) to be either stupid (they can't count) or assholes (they are counting on me dropping connection or misclicking so they still have a chance) but either way they are wasting my time. :P

I pretty much never concede unless I have to leave the match for some reason.  Not only do I like to see how things progress and if there is a chance of something improbable happening, but my opponent may have quests they are trying to finish and I don't have a problem with helping them with that.

If they are finishing in another turn, who is so impatient that they can't wait the 1-2 seconds for the turn to cycle?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on January 20, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on January 20, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
The biggest annoyance for me are the people that know they have lost the game, but that it will take 3-4 more turns to seal the deal.  They let the timer run out every turn, only for the game to boot them on the fourth turn or whatever of their not doing anything.

Yeah, I consider that obstructionist and well worth being annoyed by.  I was covering things that aren't actually wrong in the sense of bad play, just petty and I probably shouldn't be bothered by.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on January 23, 2015, 04:48:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTyJZXAAFz4

:lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on January 27, 2015, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: Syt on January 20, 2015, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 20, 2015, 08:57:09 AM
Had somethign rather odd happen last night.

Was playing Priest in arena.

Played the mech that has a deathrattle that drops a random minion, and the minion that dropped was the 1-4 chick that heals you when she deals damage.

I attacked with her, and instead of healing me, she did 1 damage to me. 28 times. And I died, since I only had 25 health. And yes, that is right - she hit me 28 times in a row, for 1 damage each time, and I lost the game when I got to -3 life.

I suspect this was a bug.

Priest has a few cards that switch healing to damage dealing. Might be you had a minion out that does that; I forget what it's called. But it still shouldn't apply it 28x.

Me and Habs talked about this, and he figured it out.

I must have had Auchenai Soulpriest out.

So, this was actually not a bug at all.

Hey power is to heal whenever she does damage. Achenai reverses any healing to damage.

So she did a point of damage to someone, and "healed" me for 1 point of damage, reversed by ASP to dealing a point of damage. Which triggered her ability to heal for a point of damage, converted to doing a point of damage, which triggered her ability....repeat until dead.

Pretty awesome way to lose, actually...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on January 29, 2015, 02:24:32 AM
Undertaker nerf coming soon to a Hearthstone near you.  :yeah:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on February 04, 2015, 10:28:01 PM
http://imgur.com/UYAWvhK   :D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on February 24, 2015, 11:05:58 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2FFirebatlulz_zpssxnatmro.png&hash=bc4ad55f084bcaa4c4d44afe1e86c74f26b169a4) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/Habbaku/media/Firebatlulz_zpssxnatmro.png.html)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on March 01, 2015, 01:43:45 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa313%2FHabbaku%2FHearthstone_Screenshot_3.1.2015.01.41.25_zpsjrotcrc8.png&hash=4fccc7189c3aa4dbf7cec106fc9d615d7033ee79) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/Habbaku/media/Hearthstone_Screenshot_3.1.2015.01.41.25_zpsjrotcrc8.png.html)

:yeah:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on March 01, 2015, 02:12:39 AM
Nice. :)
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on March 23, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
http://www.pcgamer.com/this-absurd-hearthstone-turn-is-taking-40-hours-and-you-can-watch-it-live/

QuoteThis absurd Hearthstone turn is taking 40 hours, and you can watch it live

Approximately 5 hours ago, two brave players decided to exploit Hearthstone's rules to set a world record no one else considered setting. With a sequence of plays that ought to be impossible, they're setting the record for the longest turn in a game of Hearthstone ever. It's been five hours, and the same turn is still going, estimated to last for a total of 40 hours. Why? Because they can, obviously. What's more, they are livestreaming the turn with a timer until it's completed.

In Hearthstone, each turn is usually limited to a minute and a half long. If a card's animation is still running, however, it will remain on that player's turn until the animation is complete. The duo exploited this concept to its fullest potential through some cardsharing trickery. They filled the hand of one player with nine copies of a card called Arcane Missiles that deals three damage by firing three slow moving missiles, and then used 206 copies of a card called Velen's Chosen which increases spell damage by one, increasing the number of missiles fired. Finally, they filled the board with seven copies of a minion called Prophet Velen that doubles spell damage, doubling the 209 missiles the Arcane Missiles card would fire seven times, and causing each card to shoot not three missiles, but 26,752 missiles. One at a time. For 40 hours.

All that was left was to play all nine Arcane Missiles cards at once, which will activate one at a time, and have the enemy play a card called Ice Block that keeps them from dying until the next turn. Approximately 240,000 missiles and 40 hours later the turn will end, the player who'd just been pummeled for two days straight will die to fatigue damage. GG.

http://www.twitch.tv/mamytwink

:lol:
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on March 24, 2015, 10:55:10 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on April 13, 2015, 06:11:52 PM
I have a stuck game that doesn't look like it is going anywhere.  It's been about half an hour and it isn't doing anything.  I see the opponent mousing around occasionally.  40 hour record soon to be broken?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Grey Fox on April 14, 2015, 08:03:47 PM
Game is now available on phones both Ios and android.

I think my Nexus 4 is melting.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Martinus on April 28, 2015, 04:28:11 AM
After spending a lot of time playing HS, I am now convinced that people who tell you "Well Played" just before they win are assholes and douchebags.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on April 28, 2015, 04:34:18 AM
I haven't tried the new solo dungeon yet, but I like playing my troll priest to rank 20 when I remember. It's still mostly based on stealing cards from your opponent. Since you can't build a whole deck of those I've added stuff like Blingbot, Recombobulator, Enhance-o-mechano and other cards that summon random cards, plus Ragnaros.

Nothing like making people ragequit when you have Ragnaros x2 on turn 5 (very lucky Mindgames on turn 4 + Faceless Manipulator on turn 5). Though to be fair I lose probably 5 games for every two I win - but it's always silly fun. :D

I should look into other gimmick decks.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 28, 2015, 06:36:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 28, 2015, 04:28:11 AM
After spending a lot of time playing HS, I am now convinced that people who tell you "Well Played" just before they win are assholes and douchebags.

Are you sure it isn't people who beat you that are assholes and douchebags?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on April 29, 2015, 10:00:09 AM
For a while the season ranking resets bugged me, but it's been reinforced recently.  Not doing Arena to save my currency and buy the dungeons has pushed me into more ranked play.  It all seemed kind of pointless to drop everyone by a few ranks at the end of each month.  Now I realize it's to fix (or perhaps just to balance) the inflation caused by the win streak bonus stars.  Those bonus stars effectively mean that if you are at a rank where you are playing players as good as you are you'll net gain a star about once every 8 games.  So the ranking system isn't an equilibrium, a given rank is continuously being downgraded in competitive quality as players get pushed into higher ranks.  A lousy system if you want to use a given rank as a comparison between different points in time, but useful for creating that "I'm doing better all the time, look at my ranking climb" feeling.

It gives an incentive to grinders to play more games, since even a losing record can advance on the ranking system.  For those that are curious, ~45 1/3% win rate is the break even point.  It also means that waiting to play ranked until later in the season is likely to net more wins, since the quality of each given rank is at the lowest then.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on April 29, 2015, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 28, 2015, 04:28:11 AM
After spending a lot of time playing HS, I am now convinced that people who tell you "Well Played" just before they win are assholes and douchebags.

We already went over this.  Grow up.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on October 04, 2016, 01:42:32 PM
So, after watching the Warcraft movie in a bout of nostalgia I reinstalled this. Logged into battle.net and it seems that all my progress from the last time I played (2014) has been reset. Well, that's my bout of nostalgia over even before it started.  :hmm:

EDIT: Seems I was logging on the wrong server.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on October 04, 2016, 03:48:04 PM
 :D  What's your name there?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on October 04, 2016, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 04, 2016, 03:48:04 PM
:D  What's your name there?

Guess what, "Celedhring"  :lol:

I use this username for everything internets. Can't be arsed to remember more than one.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Habbaku on October 04, 2016, 04:09:47 PM
I figured that, but I need the number attached as well to add you to my friend's list.  :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on October 05, 2016, 02:04:19 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 04, 2016, 04:09:47 PM
I figured that, but I need the number attached as well to add you to my friend's list.  :P

Aha! #2813
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Alcibiades on October 05, 2016, 02:30:41 PM
Never played this, been kind of getting into card games lately.  Is it enjoyable?  Do I have to spend money to make it worthwhile?
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on October 05, 2016, 02:36:19 PM
Yes, no.

Although spending a very small amount of money is pretty beneficial. They've done a nice job of making it not *necessary* to spend money, while at the same time making a small spend pretty fun with the expansions.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on October 05, 2016, 02:42:13 PM
If you are more of an intense, play a lot in a short time I'd spend at least some money ($10-15) to buy some cards.  If you prefer to play a bit over a longer period of time you don't need to buy anything, just do the daily quests.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Berkut on October 05, 2016, 03:02:40 PM
The expansions are where a new player would spend some money I suspect. Once you unlock all the base cards, paying for the latest expansion might be a good way to get some cards for use in semi-competitive play...
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on October 05, 2016, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 05, 2016, 03:02:40 PM
The expansions are where a new player would spend some money I suspect. Once you unlock all the base cards, paying for the latest expansion might be a good way to get some cards for use in semi-competitive play...

Yeah, that's true.  If you stick around those cards will be in Standard longer too.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on October 05, 2016, 03:12:17 PM
Expansions are the only thing I shelved money for, back when I played. They are actually fun to play by themselves.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on October 05, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2016, 03:12:17 PM
Expansions are the only thing I shelved money for, back when I played. They are actually fun to play by themselves.

I think you are talking about the adventures, which are pretty fun.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on October 05, 2016, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: frunk on October 05, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2016, 03:12:17 PM
Expansions are the only thing I shelved money for, back when I played. They are actually fun to play by themselves.

I think you are talking about the adventures, which are pretty fun.

Yeah, that. I have been away nearly two years and I have to re-learn all this shit again.  :P
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on October 06, 2016, 04:42:41 PM
Trying to get the hang of this again. So far I'm being floored with ease  :lol:

With two years worth of buffs and nerfs, plus the new cards they have released, my old decks don't seem to make sense anymore, so I need to do a lot of re-learning and testing.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: frunk on October 06, 2016, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: celedhring on October 06, 2016, 04:42:41 PM
Trying to get the hang of this again. So far I'm being floored with ease  :lol:

With two years worth of buffs and nerfs, plus the new cards they have released, my old decks don't seem to make sense anymore, so I need to do a lot of re-learning and testing.

If you are playing your old deck chances are you are in Wild.  I'd recommend building new Standard decks.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on October 06, 2016, 06:08:55 PM
Quote from: frunk on October 06, 2016, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: celedhring on October 06, 2016, 04:42:41 PM
Trying to get the hang of this again. So far I'm being floored with ease  :lol:

With two years worth of buffs and nerfs, plus the new cards they have released, my old decks don't seem to make sense anymore, so I need to do a lot of re-learning and testing.

If you are playing your old deck chances are you are in Wild.  I'd recommend building new Standard decks.

My decks are old enough so that there aren't expansion cards in most of them  :lol:

Rebuilt my hunter deck (that one was always easy to play) and it seems to do well enough in the low echelons of ranked play.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: celedhring on October 08, 2016, 03:37:09 AM
Really need to get me some new cards. Too many duds in my decks. I have a decent amount of dust stored from back in the time, so I should be able to craft a few.
Title: Re: Hearthstone
Post by: Syt on August 01, 2017, 02:11:25 AM
I don't play Hearthstone anymore, but as an old "I steal your cards" Priest, this card in the next expansion made me LOL:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net%2FUxDPsoebzFMs9a5WvB4b6m-320-80.png&hash=1fe0c82649fa5b65b09a86761d0524d8c8fd7e8d)