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Title: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Tamas on January 21, 2022, 04:08:25 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jan/21/meat-loaf-bat-out-of-hell-singer-dead-at-74

:(
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 21, 2022, 04:17:42 AM
Sad, loved their songs.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: The Brain on January 21, 2022, 04:17:53 AM
I very nearly loved him. RIP :(
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 21, 2022, 04:38:32 AM
RIP Loaf.

Was thinking t'other day how wonderfully outdated the lyrics to Paradise by the Dashboard Lights is now.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Agelastus on January 21, 2022, 05:04:50 AM
All I can say is R.I.P. :(
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Josephus on January 21, 2022, 06:51:34 AM
Sung many of his songs poorly at pubs back in the day.  :(
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: mongers on January 21, 2022, 08:33:51 AM
 :(


But what a life.  :)
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Grey Fox on January 21, 2022, 08:57:47 AM
RIP

Lots of famous early boomers dying this January. The next years won't be easy on that front.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: celedhring on January 21, 2022, 10:22:49 AM
Many drunk renditions of "I'd do anything for love" when I was in my 20s. RIP  :(
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Maladict on January 21, 2022, 12:51:40 PM
RIP Mr. Loaf
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: crazy canuck on January 21, 2022, 12:53:55 PM
Don't be sad - Great music and success but not immortality - 2/3 ain't bad

RIP
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Caliga on January 21, 2022, 02:50:40 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 21, 2022, 12:53:55 PM
Don't be sad - Great music and success but not immortality - 2/3 ain't bad
:)

R.I.P. Meatloaf.  Loved that guy's music.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: ulmont on January 21, 2022, 03:00:08 PM
I'd have more sympathy if he wasn't a Herman Cain Award nominee.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

https://old.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/s9elvm/his_name_was_meatloaf_prominent_antiva_antimask/
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Savonarola on January 21, 2022, 03:27:40 PM
RIP

My favorite story about him is that when Todd Rundgren first heard his songs he assumed that they were supposed to be a parody of Bruce Springsteen.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Sheilbh on January 21, 2022, 03:58:21 PM
RIP.

I shared this with some friends this morning. There was a thing on Tumblr a while ago in British media circles where they'd basically match a great album with someone who hasn't heard it before - for example former leader of the Liberal Democrats and well-meaning Christian rambler Tim Farron listening to Straight Outta Compton. They'd do a quick summary of the album/artist and then get the take of their guest (who had to listen to the album three times). It was quite fun.

And their intro to Meat Loaf is wonderful:
https://ramalbumclub.tumblr.com/post/141663897114/week-61-bat-out-of-hell-by-meatloaf

One favourite story:
QuoteRight, what's next?

During a job interview for a parking attendant in a theatre, a nearby casting director asks Meat Loaf if he can sing and offers him a part in the musical Hair. The show is a huge success and he finds himself on Broadway singing that Aquarius song.

It's also around this time that he meets Jim Steinman - a slightly weird fella who wore leather gloves and had a portfolio of REALLY long songs where people lost their virginity to spine tingling baseball commentary.

We'll come back to him in a bit.

Next, Meat Loaf gets offered a part in a new musical called The Rocky Horror Show. Again, it's a massive success and EVERYONE came to see the show - John Lennon, Elvis Presley, and Keith Moon to name a few. In fact Moon was so taken by Rocky Horror that he was a regular at the theatre, sitting in the front row with 9 bottles of champagne on the stage - one for each member of the cast.

The musical then gets made into a film, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, but bombs on its release. Meat Loaf then appears in a Shakespeare musical called Rock a Bye Hamlet, which sounds like the worst thing ever, and decides to quit musicals for good.

Instead, he went back to that Steinman fella and started working on those REALLY long songs.

What happens next is my probably my favourite bit in the whole story.

Rather than doing what normal bands do, i.e. record a demo tape, Meat Loaf decided it would be a good idea to perform the songs live in front of label executives. Typically this would involve Meat Loaf, Jim Steinman on piano, and a singer called Ellen Foley going through an early version of Paradise by The Dashboard Light.

The record labels hated it as soon as it started and were further appalled when they got to the bit in the song where Meat Loaf and Ellen Foley started to make out with each other RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM!

It's some image - a 25 stone man in a frilly shirt getting off with a slim blonde, whilst some weirdo sits in the corner playing the piano with his leather gloves on.

Unsurprisingly, they didn't get a deal.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: mongers on January 21, 2022, 06:50:48 PM
Just watch, Meat Loaf on the OGWT circa 1978:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcEVkfuZ9U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcEVkfuZ9U)
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Jacob on January 21, 2022, 07:22:07 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 21, 2022, 06:50:48 PM
Just watch, Meat Loaf on the OGWT circa 1978:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcEVkfuZ9U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcEVkfuZ9U)

UK viewers only, apparently.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: mongers on January 21, 2022, 07:26:19 PM
Quote from: Jacob on January 21, 2022, 07:22:07 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 21, 2022, 06:50:48 PM
Just watch, Meat Loaf on the OGWT circa 1978:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcEVkfuZ9U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcEVkfuZ9U)

UK viewers only, apparently.

Jacob, try one of these other ones instead:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=meatloaf+old+grey+whistle+test+ (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=meatloaf+old+grey+whistle+test+)
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: alfred russel on January 21, 2022, 07:38:51 PM
i wanted to get a meatloaf for dinner as a tribute but my wife said no. she also never heard of meatloaf (the dude, she has heard of the food).  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 21, 2022, 10:08:29 PM
Ask her if she ever saw Spice World.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 21, 2022, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 21, 2022, 07:38:51 PM
i wanted to get a meatloaf for dinner as a tribute but my wife said no. she also never heard of meatloaf (the dude, she has heard of the food).  :cry: :cry:

Has she seen Fight Club?
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: alfred russel on January 21, 2022, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 21, 2022, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 21, 2022, 07:38:51 PM
i wanted to get a meatloaf for dinner as a tribute but my wife said no. she also never heard of meatloaf (the dude, she has heard of the food).  :cry: :cry:

Has she seen Fight Club?

We watched it together a few weeks ago - she hadn't seen it before that.  :(
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 21, 2022, 10:47:52 PM
Well, you made your child bride bed, now you have to sleep in it.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: jimmy olsen on January 22, 2022, 05:37:42 AM
Died of Covid. Apparently an antivaxer antimasker.  :(
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Tamas on January 22, 2022, 06:24:49 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 22, 2022, 05:37:42 AM
Died of Covid. Apparently an antivaxer antimasker.  :(

It's a shame, but becoming an old dumb git doesn't invalidate his legacy.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Sheilbh on January 22, 2022, 06:47:23 AM
Quote from: Tamas on January 22, 2022, 06:24:49 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 22, 2022, 05:37:42 AM
Died of Covid. Apparently an antivaxer antimasker.  :(

It's a shame, but becoming an old dumb git doesn't invalidate his legacy.
Unless you're Van Morrison and you've recorded a two disc album about your views with songs like "Why Are You on Facebook?", "They Own the Media" and "Western Man" - in which case it is starting to touch your musical legacy :lol: :P
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Syt on January 22, 2022, 07:12:18 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 22, 2022, 06:47:23 AM
Quote from: Tamas on January 22, 2022, 06:24:49 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 22, 2022, 05:37:42 AM
Died of Covid. Apparently an antivaxer antimasker.  :(

It's a shame, but becoming an old dumb git doesn't invalidate his legacy.
Unless you're Van Morrison and you've recorded a two disc album about your views with songs like "Why Are You on Facebook?", "They Own the Media" and "Western Man" - in which case it is starting to touch your musical legacy :lol: :P

Sure it's Van Morrison? Maybe you misread Morrissey. :P
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Josephus on January 22, 2022, 07:15:26 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 22, 2022, 07:12:18 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 22, 2022, 06:47:23 AM
Quote from: Tamas on January 22, 2022, 06:24:49 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 22, 2022, 05:37:42 AM
Died of Covid. Apparently an antivaxer antimasker.  :(

It's a shame, but becoming an old dumb git doesn't invalidate his legacy.
Unless you're Van Morrison and you've recorded a two disc album about your views with songs like "Why Are You on Facebook?", "They Own the Media" and "Western Man" - in which case it is starting to touch your musical legacy :lol: :P

Sure it's Van Morrison? Maybe you misread Morrissey. :P

Nah, it was Van Morrison. The album, according to Wiki: Reviewing the album for Rolling Stone, Jonathan Bernstein wrote that "Morrison's new record bears a strange resemblance to the unhinged, rambling feel of the pandemic-era internet: more often than not, its 28 tracks come across as a collection of shitposts, subtweets, and Reddit rants set to knockoff John Lee Hooker grooves.
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Sheilbh on January 22, 2022, 07:17:38 AM
Quote from: Syt on January 22, 2022, 07:12:18 AM
Sure it's Van Morrison? Maybe you misread Morrissey. :P
Oh Morrissey :weep:

The worst example of someone torching their legacy.

Edit: And yeah the Guardian review of Van was pretty savage too: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/may/06/van-morrison-new-record-project-volume-one-review
Title: Re: RIP Meat Loaf
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 22, 2022, 09:53:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 22, 2022, 05:37:42 AM
Died of Covid. Apparently an antivaxer antimasker.  :(

I guess we finally know what "that" is.