http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdh70xdZHK0
I'm not clicking that.
Probably some Apple shit.
News is now livestreaming on tsn.ca - link right on the main page.
http://watch.tsn.ca/clip466642#clip466642
:lol:
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Fans already lined up to buy tickets.
are they going with jets or another name?
Quote from: HVC on May 31, 2011, 10:56:52 AM
are they going with jets or another name?
Don't know. Press conference delayed by 15 minutes, and no idea if they'll announce anything about the name during the press conference.
They'll announce they are working hard on trying to get a team back to Winnipeg, with no commitment for now :P
Quote from: viper37 on May 31, 2011, 11:01:32 AM
They'll announce they are working hard on trying to get a team back to Winnipeg, with no commitment for now :P
:lol: they'd be awesome. Last minute offer so that bettman could screw over manitoba.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:00:07 AM
Quote from: HVC on May 31, 2011, 10:56:52 AM
are they going with jets or another name?
Don't know. Press conference delayed by 15 minutes, and no idea if they'll announce anything about the name during the press conference.
hope it's not something stupid (winnipeg 'squitos* or something)
*only other things that comes to mind when i think of winnipeg :D
So it's official. Really official. Atlanta Thrashers moving to Winnipeg. Mark Chipman announced it, now Gary Bettman to speak.
Oh, well; we weren't watching them anyway.
Edmonton is no longer the least attractive city for free agents anymore! :D
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
Edmonton is no longer the least attractive city for free agents anymore! :D
Don't kid yourself. :console:
I've lived in both, and know which I'd prefer to live in if all things were equal.
AND NOW..........
the season ticket drive begins. Trying to hit 13,000 STs, playing it up that the Board of Governors might not approve the sale otherwise. :D
Quote from: Habbaku on May 31, 2011, 11:32:01 AM
Oh, well; we weren't watching them anyway.
:console:
I don't think you were a fan, but in case you were, it sucks to lose a team. I know that pain very well. :(
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:35:35 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
Edmonton is no longer the least attractive city for free agents anymore! :D
Don't kid yourself. :console:
I've lived in both, and know which I'd prefer to live in if all things were equal.
Winnipeg is home for you, so it's a little different. There's a better racial distribution here, and less flooding and bad weather.
It only sucks because the NHL has presumptions of being one of the major sporting leagues in the country(the "Big 4") so we no longer have the full complement. Honestly, it should be about as important as having a MLS team.
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2011, 11:50:14 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:35:35 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
Edmonton is no longer the least attractive city for free agents anymore! :D
Don't kid yourself. :console:
I've lived in both, and know which I'd prefer to live in if all things were equal.
Winnipeg is home for you, so it's a little different. There's a better racial distribution here, and less flooding and bad weather.
:rolleyes:
Mark Chipman announces team name has not been decided.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 31, 2011, 11:52:25 AM
It only sucks because the NHL has presumptions of being one of the major sporting leagues in the country(the "Big 4") so we no longer have the full complement. Honestly, it should be about as important as having a MLS team.
If you don't watch the games, what does it matter if you have the "full compliment"?
Is there any possible basis for comparing MLS to the NHL? Revenue? TV Ratings? Attendance?
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:55:11 AM
Is there any possible basis for comparing MLS to the NHL? Revenue? TV Ratings? Attendance?
Equal interest in the South.
Hey, you're the MLS dork, you should be supporting my statement! <_< :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 31, 2011, 12:07:30 PM
Hey, you're the MLS dork, you should be supporting my statement! <_< :P
I thought I was -_-
Quote from: Valmy on May 31, 2011, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:55:11 AM
Is there any possible basis for comparing MLS to the NHL? Revenue? TV Ratings? Attendance?
Equal interest in the South.
In that 0 = 0 ?
Holy crap - they cut to a shot of the Forks with 1000s of fans chanting "GO JETS GO".
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
In that 0 = 0 ?
Holy crap - they cut to a shot of the Forks with 1000s of fans chanting "GO JETS GO".
I think if the team is in the championship people sorta pay attention but besides that basically yeah.
Anyway congrats again and they better name this team the Winnipeg Jets.
You know it's kind of shitty, but perhaps says it all, that there was no announcement made in Atlanta, that the news broke in Winnipeg instead.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-thrashers/its-official-thrashers-to-962820.html (http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-thrashers/its-official-thrashers-to-962820.html)
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This is the second time the city of Atlanta has lost an NHL franchise. In 1980, the Flames left for Calgary. No other U.S. city has lost a professional sports franchise to Canada, and now it's happened to Atlanta twice -- in the same league.
Damn, Atlanta must be a really boring city.
TSN Jets Meter for May 31:
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Why doesn't it reach the "drop the puck" segment?
Quote from: viper37 on May 31, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
Why doesn't it reach the "drop the puck" segment?
Board of Governors needs to approve the deal.
Interesting - Premier Selinger, when asked about the name, suggested he wouldn't be surprised if "Manitoba" figured into things.
Gary Bettman said the name and logo "Winnipeg Jets" would be available if the team wanted it.
Selinger also commented - the province is going to allocate some VLT (video lottery terminal) money towards paying down the existing debt on the otherwise privately-owned MTS Centre. Debt that was previously being paid down by TNSE.
I guess that's their way of helping to subsidize the NHL without actually subsidizing the team.
:boring:
I stand by the Winnipeg Squares.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 31, 2011, 01:08:42 PM
:boring:
It's the circle of life.
Yesterday you lost a NCAA Football team. Today I gained an NHL team.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 01:14:28 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 31, 2011, 01:08:42 PM
:boring:
It's the circle of life.
Yesterday you lost a NCAA Football team. Today I gained an NHL team.
I did? wow. You are a very silly man.
:lol:
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2011, 12:39:31 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 31, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
Why doesn't it reach the "drop the puck" segment?
Board of Governors needs to approve the deal.
ah, I took it for granted.
So, who's moving to the east, now? Detroit? Columbus?
Also, isn't selling 13 000 season tickets out of 15 000 places a little too much?
Quote from: viper37 on May 31, 2011, 01:32:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 31, 2011, 12:39:31 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 31, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
Why doesn't it reach the "drop the puck" segment?
Board of Governors needs to approve the deal.
ah, I took it for granted.
It is a formality.
What can they do now - un-announce it? :lol:
Winnipeg is now using it as motivation to sell season tickets.
Quote from: viper37 on May 31, 2011, 01:44:03 PM
So, who's moving to the east, now? Detroit? Columbus?
Also, isn't selling 13 000 season tickets out of 15 000 places a little too much?
For one year, Winnipeg will play in the Southeastern Conference. :rolleyes:
They'll fight over relocation next year. But remember we'll be going through this same mess again enxt eyar with Phoenix.
Quote from: Valmy on May 31, 2011, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
In that 0 = 0 ?
Holy crap - they cut to a shot of the Forks with 1000s of fans chanting "GO JETS GO".
I think if the team is in the championship people sorta pay attention but besides that basically yeah.
Anyway congrats again and they better name this team the Winnipeg Jets.
Tell that to the Minnesota North Stars! :secret:
Quote from: Strix on May 31, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 31, 2011, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
In that 0 = 0 ?
Holy crap - they cut to a shot of the Forks with 1000s of fans chanting "GO JETS GO".
I think if the team is in the championship people sorta pay attention but besides that basically yeah.
Anyway congrats again and they better name this team the Winnipeg Jets.
Tell that to the Minnesota North Stars! :secret:
Significant difference - with Phoenix being owned by the league, the league is free to sell the name / trademarks / whatever for "Winnipeg Jets" back to Winnipeg (even if they didn't own them already).
Oh, and grats BB!
It will interesting to see how re-alignment goes. My guess is they wuss out and just switch Nashville or Columbus to the East in place of the Manitoba First Nationers.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: Strix on May 31, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 31, 2011, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
In that 0 = 0 ?
Holy crap - they cut to a shot of the Forks with 1000s of fans chanting "GO JETS GO".
I think if the team is in the championship people sorta pay attention but besides that basically yeah.
Anyway congrats again and they better name this team the Winnipeg Jets.
Tell that to the Minnesota North Stars! :secret:
Significant difference - with Phoenix being owned by the league, the league is free to sell the name / trademarks / whatever for "Winnipeg Jets" back to Winnipeg (even if they didn't own them already).
I was commenting more on the North Stars being moved the year they made the Championship. Only thing worse would have been if they beat Pittsburgh.
Quote from: Strix on May 31, 2011, 02:17:25 PM
Oh, and grats BB!
It will interesting to see how re-alignment goes. My guess is they wuss out and just switch Nashville or Columbus to the East in place of the Manitoba First Nationers.
The conventional thinking is:
Winnipeg -> Northwest, bumping Colorado
Colorado -> Pacific, bumping Dallas
Dallas -> Central
Then it comes down to which team moves in the Central. Detroit would love to move, as would Columbus and Nashville. Nashville would be easiest, as it would fill the whole in the southeast. Columbus and Nashville are actually more to the east (and in EST), but would require further realignment.
But then there are stories that they may do a more far-reaching realignment. Three conferences was mentioned, for example.
Quote from: Strix on May 31, 2011, 02:18:28 PM
I was commenting more on the North Stars being moved the year they made the Championship. Only thing worse would have been if they beat Pittsburgh.
Money is money, and Dallas is one of the most financially successful NHL franchises, despite the fact that noone cares about them.
Not one person has been man enough to admit they were wrong about this day. :contract:
Katmai, CC, PRC, Viper, HVC, Zoupa, Ed Anger, I'm waiting. :cool:
I was wrong. Although my second guess was that it won't stay long :P
I was wrong.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
Not one person has been man enough to admit they were wrong about this day. :contract:
Katmai, CC, PRC, Viper, HVC, Zoupa, Ed Anger, I'm waiting. :cool:
Considering I sorta actually hoped you people got a team, you can stick the I told you so where the sun doesn't shine.
Hugs and kisses,
Ed
Can anybody explain to me what the fuck is this thread about?
Quote from: Siege on May 31, 2011, 05:36:12 PM
Can anybody explain to me what the fuck is this thread about?
I'll be nice:
QuoteWinnipeg cheers return of NHL
'It's a fantastic day for the city,' says Winnipeg Mayor Sam Katz
CBC Sports Posted: May 31, 2011 8:06 AM ET Last Updated: May 31, 2011 4:53 PM ET
A deal has been reached to bring a National Hockey League team back to Winnipeg for the first time since 1996.
A deal to move the NHL's Atlanta Thrashers to the Manitoba capital was announced Tuesday at press conference at the MTS Centre in Winnipeg.
The team will play in the 2011-12 season.
"Today, on behalf of my family, our partner David Thomson, and our entire organization, I am excited beyond words to announce our purchase of the Atlanta Thrashers," said Mark Chipman, chairman of True North Sports and Entertainment Ltd.
As soon as the announcement was made by Chipman, thousands of fans shouted, cheered, clapped, whistled, popped champagne and sang the Stompin' Tom Connors anthem The Hockey Song at two main party places in the city: the famous intersection of Portage and Main, and The Forks marketplace.
Portage and Main was shut down to traffic for a couple of hours as an estimated 1,000 people gathered there.
"NHL, welcome home. It's great to have you back here, it's great to have you back here where you belong," said a beaming Manitoba Premier Greg Selinger at the press conference.
"We missed you and we're going to make it work forever now that you're back."
David Thomson arrives at the James A. Richardson International Airport in Winnipeg on Tuesday. Patrice Mousseau/CBC
The sale price was not released, however numerous reports leading up to the announcement have pegged it at $170 million, including a $60 million relocation fee.
"It's a fantastic day for the city and I'm hoping, you know, for decades on, everybody will get to experience the NHL and the economic impact and the wonderful pride that comes with being a city that has the best of the best," said Winnipeg Mayor Sam Katz.
While the NHL's return will have obvious economic benefits, that's not all it offers, he said.
"One thing that you can't measure is the feeling, the wonderful feeling that Winnipeggers and Manitobans will have today with the return of the NHL after a 15-year absence," Katz said.
Winnipeg has been without NHL hockey since the Jets moved to Phoenix and were renamed the Coyotes in 1996.
"In the spring of 1995, I was very fortunate to become closely involved in community efforts to save the NHL team. I came away from that experience with a deep sense of disappointment, but also the realization that our lack of success was not anyone's fault," Chipman said at the press conference.
"Rather, after 17 years [of hockey in Winnipeg], the economics of our city and the NHL were no longer compatible."
But all of that has changed now, with a stronger Canadian dollar, a new arena, a booming Manitoba economy and an NHL salary cap, say those involved in the deal and others, like Katz and Selinger.
"It is clear that times have changed for Winnipeg as an NHL market. And this is a wonderful time to add a club to Canada," said NHL commissioner Gary Bettman.
Mayor Sam Katz and former Jet Thomas Steen lead the conga line at The Forks to celebrate the NHL's return to Winnipeg. (Marjorie Dowhos/CBC)
"As we have said repeatedly, we don't like to move franchises. But sometimes, even if it has been 14 years since the last time we moved a franchise, sometimes we simply have no choice as was the case back in '96 when the Jets left Winnipeg.
"So to be able to come back to, if you will, right a wrong, that's always an extraordinary thing. It's nice to be back in Winnipeg after all these years."
Former Jets centreman Thomas Steen, ranked in a 2005 article in the National Post as the second-greatest player in the history of the franchise, after Dale Hawerchuk, was beaming from ear-to-ear at the news.
"It's been a long time since I've felt this joy, that's for sure. Today, I'm just going to enjoy."
Chipman cautioned that even though the deal has been completed, it must still receive approval from the NHL board of governors. That could come at a June 21 meeting.
"Our spirit is back," said Braden Hill, decked out in a Jets jersey and hockey helmet, a Canadian flag draped on his back like a cape.
"Our city lost it 15 years ago. Now it's back."
Fan Jason Loewen said the Jets' departure "was like part of our heart was taken out."
"So now, it's correcting a wrong. Hockey is a big part of life here."
Canadian billionaire David Thomson, co-owner of the new team, travelled to Winnipeg from Toronto on Tuesday morning, as did Bettman and deputy commissioner Bill Daly.
True North has been in negotiations with Atlanta Spirit, the owners of the Thrashers, for a number of weeks.
Bettman said the ink is still drying, noting negotiations were still ongoing as of 4:30 a.m. ET on Tuesday.
Organizers said ticket prices will range from $39 to $129 per game, and a drive to sell 13,000 season tickets would start this week.
"Selling 13,000 season tickets will send a message to the NHL board of governors," Bettman said. "And, to be candid, this isn't going to work very well unless this building is sold out every night."
Congratulations from PM
Immediately following the announcement, a statement was issued by Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
"Today is a historic day for Canada's game. On behalf of all Canadians, I am extremely pleased with today's announcement that the NHL will return to Winnipeg," he said.
"Hockey is Canada's great passion and I'm excited that Winnipeg will reclaim its special role in our country's national pastime.
"Memories of legendary Winnipeg Jets' players such as Bobby Hull, Dale Hawerchuk and Teemu Selanne remain fresh in the minds of all Canadians.
"The moments created by these players were inspirations to generations of young hockey players across Canada and I know that the new team will inspire countless young Canadians to put on their skates and carry on Canada's proud hockey legacy."
No name yet
A name has not been chosen yet, Chipman said.
The Manitoba Moose logo is covered up for the press conference at MTS Centre. Sean Reynolds/ CBC
The focus has been on the purchase of the team, but one of the first orders of business will be deciding on a name, he said.
On Tuesday, the logo for the American Hockey league's Manitoba Moose at MTS Centre was covered up by a True North sign. The Moose, the farm team for the Vancouver Canucks, is owned by True North.
Chipman had talked about keeping the name because he had built up the brand over the years. He acquired the team in 1996 and moved it from Minnesota.
However, Winnipeg fans seem to be favouring the Jets name, going by the signs being waved and vintage jerseys being worn on the streets of the city Tuesday.
As well, #gojetsgo was the dominating hashtag on Twitter as hockey lovers cheered the news.
Chants of "Go Jets, go" have also been shouted in the city throughout the past couple of weeks as excitement built with news of the negotiations. The chants even washed through a concert by U2 in Winnipeg on Sunday.
And they continued, louder, on Tuesday as fans hugged and played impromptu games of road hockey at Portage and Main as well as at The Forks.
Curt Keilback, the former voice of the Jets as the team's play-by-play man, also has his vote in for the Jets name. And he said there are many others, including members of the Jets alumni, who feel the same.
It was the name of the team when it was the flagship franchise in the World Hockey Association in the 1970s and the name it kept when it joined the NHL in 1979.
The NHL owns the rights to the Jets name, and Bettman told Rogers Sportsnet the league would make it available if True North wants to use it.
A long wait
It's been a long wait for Winnipeg hockey fans.
Jet diehards kept the spirit of the team alive on websites and chatrooms, lobbying for a team and keeping track of Jets alumni like Bobby Hull, Steen and Hawerchuk.
Earlier this year, it appeared Winnipeg was about to get its own franchise back, but last-minute subsidies and deal-making kept the red-ink-stained Coyotes in Arizona.
'This is not the outcome we wanted and it's extremely disappointing that a buyer or significant investor did not come forward that would enable us to keep the team in Atlanta.'
—Thrashers co-owner Bruce LevensonBut just as the Coyote door closed, the Thrasher one opened. The Atlanta-based team took to the ice as an expansion team in 1999, part of a rapid league expansion at the end of the last century to capture the elusive Sun Belt market.
But the Thrashers made the playoffs just once, losing in four straight games to the New York Rangers in the first round in 2007.
Many nights the Thrashers played in front of a number of empty seats at Philips Arena, located downtown beside CNN headquarters and the Centennial Olympic Plaza.
The Thrashers are the second NHL franchise to leave Atlanta, which relinquished the Flames to Calgary in 1980.
The NHL was unable to find an owner who wants to keep the team in Atlanta. The Thrashers finished 25th in the 30-team league with a 34-36-12 record and missed the playoffs last season.
"This is not the outcome we wanted and it's extremely disappointing that a buyer or significant investor did not come forward that would enable us to keep the team in Atlanta," Thrashers co-owner Bruce Levenson said in a statement.
The MTS Centre, owned by True North, opened in 2004 with the Moose as its anchor tenant. The 15,000-seat facility cost $133.5 million to build, including $40.5 million in public money.
The arena is small by NHL standards with 15,015 seats — that's 1,159 fewer than Nassau Coliseum, where the New York Islanders play.
Peter Stoykewych, 18, a Winnipegger who was drafted in 2010 by the Thrashers and remains a team prospect is excited by the chance to play in front of friends and family much of the year.
"For me, not many athletes get to play in their home town in their entire life, let alone the possibility of playing here on a nightly basis, so it's definitely exciting for me and my family as well," said the St. John's-Ravenscourt alumnus.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/stanleycup/story/2011/05/31/sp-nhl-winnipeg.html
I've tried repeatedly to like hockey, but I can't. It's too damn cold. :(
Quote from: Caliga on May 31, 2011, 05:52:13 PM
I've tried repeatedly to like hockey, but I can't. It's too damn cold. :(
You need to go to a minor league game. That is where the fun is. The lower the league, the wilder it gets.
I've done that. When I was a kid my dad had a friend named Ziggy who played in some sort of bush league. He took me to a bunch of games. It was too fucking cold. My favorite part was watching the Zamboni drive around. :)
Man up. My nephews can tolerate a hockey game, you can too.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 31, 2011, 05:53:34 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 31, 2011, 05:52:13 PM
I've tried repeatedly to like hockey, but I can't. It's too damn cold. :(
You need to go to a minor league game. That is where the fun is. The lower the league, the wilder it gets.
eh... that can be hit or miss. In the minor leagues you get a lot of guys who know they'll never make it to the NHL, and are just playing for a paycheque. There may be more fights (because owners know people love fights), but a lot less effort overall.
I understand you probably don't get this in Kentucky, but the way to get into it is to go to a small town junior hockey game (16-20 years old). Kids are still hustling every night. Fans are SERIOUSLY into their local team. And still plenty of fighting.
Most fun I ever had in a game was watching the Flin Flon Bombers (Bobby Clarke was the pride of Flin Flon) in the Saskatchewan Major Junior Hockey League. :)
I love minor league fights. :)
RIP Dayton Bombers. You entertained me a lot. Especially green beer night.
Quote from: Siege on May 31, 2011, 05:36:12 PM
Can anybody explain to me what the fuck is this thread about?
Some game played by primitive people like Eskimos and Swedes.
I already told you congrats in other thread ya fucking dumbass uke.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 12:48:56 PM
Gary Bettman said the name and logo "Winnipeg Jets" would be available if the team wanted it.
They better go back to the original name and unis, or this will have been all for naught.
Loved the pic of Bob and Doug MacKenzie waiting for tickets to go on sale, by the way.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2011, 09:16:46 PM
They better go back to the original name and unis, or this will have been all for naught.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: katmai on May 31, 2011, 08:39:57 PM
I already told you congrats in other thread ya fucking dumbass uke.
It's not the congrats I want - it's the admission that you should have listened to your Barrister - he knew what he was talking about. :contract:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2011, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 12:48:56 PM
Gary Bettman said the name and logo "Winnipeg Jets" would be available if the team wanted it.
They better go back to the original name and unis, or this will have been all for naught.
Loved the pic of Bob and Doug MacKenzie waiting for tickets to go on sale, by the way.
Well, it won't have been for naught - just like getting the Ravens made up for your loss, even though they weren't named Colts.
But the original unis sucked. My own personal prayer is for the Winnipeg (or Manitoba) Jets, but with a completely, radically new, uniform and logo.
Holy Shit.
I just realized that the NHL came back to Winnipeg on the same day my son was born (May 31). I was thrown because we held his party two days earlier.
If that's not a sign I don't know what is. :worthy:
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:33:52 PM
Holy Shit.
I just realized that the NHL came back to Winnipeg on the same day my son was born (May 31). I was thrown because we held his party two days earlier.
If that's not a sign I don't know what is. :worthy:
Sign him up for hockey when he is old enough. You may just have the Manitoba Polar Bears next superstar.
Quote from: PRC on May 31, 2011, 11:40:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:33:52 PM
Holy Shit.
I just realized that the NHL came back to Winnipeg on the same day my son was born (May 31). I was thrown because we held his party two days earlier.
If that's not a sign I don't know what is. :worthy:
Sign him up for hockey when he is old enough. You may just have the Manitoba Polar Bears next superstar.
I actually don't really want him to play hockey. Most hockey players I know are assholes. :Embarrass:
Curling - now that's a sport for a Barrister Boy. :scots:
Now that being said if he has his heart set on hockey I'll take him. But I don't know that I'm going to push him in that direction.
That's the way I feel about my son and (American) Football.
Grats to Winnipeg :cheers:
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 31, 2011, 08:39:57 PM
I already told you congrats in other thread ya fucking dumbass uke.
It's not the congrats I want - it's the admission that you should have listened to your Barrister - he knew what he was talking about. :contract:
I choose to wait to the day in about ten years when the Manitoba Polar Bears break your heart and move and become the Charleston Chiefs. ^_^
Quote from: katmai on June 01, 2011, 12:03:23 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 31, 2011, 08:39:57 PM
I already told you congrats in other thread ya fucking dumbass uke.
It's not the congrats I want - it's the admission that you should have listened to your Barrister - he knew what he was talking about. :contract:
I choose to wait to the day in about ten years when the Manitoba Polar Bears break your heart and move and become the Charleston Chiefs. ^_^
Okay - how about a simple admission you were wrong when you said the Jets would never come back. :blurgh:
If they Jets had come back I would :P
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
Not one person has been man enough to admit they were wrong about this day. :contract:
Katmai, CC, PRC, Viper, HVC, Zoupa, Ed Anger, I'm waiting. :cool:
I never said they would never come back. I just said you were annoying the shit out of everybody by posting 15 updates a day about Glendale council meetings nobody cared a flying fuck about. :contract:
Does this mean you are finally out of the REAL hockey thread? :D
V
Quote from: katmai on June 01, 2011, 02:04:47 AM
If they Jets had come back I would :P
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
My 'source' is now backing off the Polar Bears name. We'll see...
Quote from: Valdemar on June 01, 2011, 03:47:13 AM
Does this mean you are finally out of the REAL hockey thread? :D
V
why on earth would I do that? :huh:
Now I have a real, living team to talk about. Not just hope and memories. :menace:
Quote from: Zoupa on June 01, 2011, 02:26:26 AMI never said they would never come back. I just said you were annoying the shit out of everybody by posting 15 updates a day about Glendale council meetings nobody cared a flying fuck about. :contract:
And that was the truth. Maybe you can post minutes of Montreal city council meetings in response to anything BB posts about his new team.
Happy for BB, even more happy he started another thread about this rather than clogging up the important thread.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 11:40:05 AM
Happy for BB, even more happy he started another thread about this rather than clogging up the important thread.
So when are you going to admit you were wrong? :menace:
And I don't understand how you guys don't find this stuff fascinating. All this big money behind the scenes look at the sport is very interesting. I imagine I'm going to continue to follow the Phoenix train wreck until they wind up moving to Quebec City. I might even keep posting about it. :P
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 11:46:40 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 11:40:05 AM
Happy for BB, even more happy he started another thread about this rather than clogging up the important thread.
So when are you going to admit you were wrong? :menace:
When I am wrong I will let you know. My prediction continues to be that Winnipeg will not be able to support an NHL team in the long term. They will probably be able to sell the necessary number of season tickets to secure the approval of the league but afer the initial euphoria wears off it will be harder and harder to sell those tickets as the team continues to lose.
The NHL had no choice but to go to Winnipeg. There was simply no other city that could take them. It was either that or let the team fold. Frankly the latter option was probably the better long term option.
So, in answer to your question about why this news is not interesting - it is for the same reason that takeovers of failed businesses are rarely interesting other than for the people directly involved.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 11:46:40 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 11:40:05 AM
Happy for BB, even more happy he started another thread about this rather than clogging up the important thread.
So when are you going to admit you were wrong? :menace:
When I am wrong I will let you know. My prediction continues to be that Winnipeg will not be able to support an NHL team in the long term. They will probably be able to sell the necessary number of season tickets to secure the approval of the league but afer the initial euphoria wears off it will be harder and harder to sell those tickets as the team continues to lose.
The NHL had no choice but to go to Winnipeg. There was simply no other city that could take them. It was either that or let the team fold. Frankly the latter option was probably the better long term option.
So, in answer to your question about why this news is not interesting - it is for the same reason that takeovers of failed businesses are rarely interesting other than for the people directly involved.
Apparently what they say is true - Haters just gotta hate. :(
I'll agree with you that the NHL had no choice but to go to Winnipeg, but that was always TNSE's plan - put together an NHL-ready arena and NHL-ready organization, and wait for the NHL to come calling.
Winnipeg was always capable of supporting an NHL team. What screwed us over in the 90s was that the city, province, and Shenkarow talked for years about the need for a new arena, but never did anything about it. When crunch time came in the 90s they crunched the numbers are the team could survive in a new arena, and plans were drawn up to build (and pay for) a new arena, but it foundered over nobody being willing or able to pay for the team's ongoing losses until the arena was built.
Plus - David Thomson, despite his flowery answer at the press conference about how much he loves Winnipeg because he once visited a Bay store he owned, isn't in this for love of Winnipeg. He's a businessman, and figures he can make money on this deal. I trust you won't be offended if I trust his business sense over yours.
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 12:36:34 PM
He's a businessman, and figures he can make money on this deal. I trust you won't be offended if I trust his business sense over yours.
He wont be the first successful billonaire who thought they could make money on an NHL team only to be disappointed and he wont be the last. Truth is there are few profitable NHL teams. Every other businessman made a poor business choice. But when it comes to owning sports teams there is a lot of prestige involved and that helps the bottom line woes.
Also, I do think Thompson is a very good businessman which is why I think it unlikely he will fund a losing enterprise. We dont know what the terms of the partnership agreement are. But if you do think he is primarly using his business sense then the chances of me being right increase since he probably entered into a deal with little risk to him and the ability to bail if things are not profitable.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 12:44:19 PM
He wont be the first successful billonaire who thought they could make money on an NHL team only to be disappointed and he wont be the last. Truth is there are few profitable NHL teams. Every other businessman made a poor business choice. But when it comes to owning sports teams there is a lot of prestige involved and that helps the bottom line woes.
Also, I do think Thompson is a very good businessman which is why I think it unlikely he will fund a losing enterprise. We dont know what the terms of the partnership agreement are. But if you do think he is primarly using his business sense then the chances of me being right increase since he probably entered into a deal with little risk to him and the ability to bail if things are not profitable.
I heard on the radio some speculation about what Thomson's (No P) angle is in all of this. They speculated it was a plan to flip the team into southern Ontario.
They're right he has an angle, but S Ontario isn't it.
How did Thomson get involved in this in the first place?
His Real Estate development company, Osmington, owned the old Eaton's building land that the MTS centre was built on.
Thomson's angle is real estate.
Land in downtown Winnipeg is cheap. Compared to other Canadian cities, it is dirt cheap. And he (and Chipman) have been buying. With an NHL team drawing 15,000 fans downtown for 41 nights a year, that is going to draw a lot of business. That will drive up the price of real estate all around the arena, and will draw in new businesses. And that causes Thomson's real estate investments to pay off.
The team doesn't have to make money for this to work. It just has to break even, or keep losses to a minimum. The money gets made elsewhere.
And finally, Thomson has very much been a silent investor in this. This is the first time I ever saw him in person connected to Winnipeg. At the press conference he didn't say anything, and only spoke in response to a question from the Free Press (and for the record he ducked the question). I don't see him as being in this for the prestige. Besides he's Canada's richest man - how much more prestige does he need?
I see, so this could really just be a very sophisticated pump and dump. buy up cheap land nobody wants. Bring in a team likely to fail but fans in Winnipeg wont care about that - they just want a team - so the up front cost is going to be low. Live through a couple of years for values to rise then sell the land before the team fails and land prices go back to normal.
Then when the team eventually fails move them to another market in which you have bought up cheap land - rinse and repeat. Brilliant.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 01:11:36 PM
I see, so this could really just be a very sophisticated pump and dump. buy up cheap land nobody wants. Bring in a team likely to fail but fans in Winnipeg wont care about that - they just want a team - so the up front cost is going to be low. Live through a couple of years for values to rise then sell the land before the team fails and land prices go back to normal.
Then when the team eventually fails move them to another market in which you have bought up cheap land - rinse and repeat. Brilliant.
It wouldn't be the first time that's been done in pro sports (see Steve Ellman in Phoenix), but is not at all how the Thomson's carry on business.
It's more buy up cheap land, bring in a bunch of successful businesses and make money leasing the land to them. That's an investment that makes money year after year.
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 01:22:34 PM
It's more buy up cheap land, bring in a bunch of successful businesses and make money leasing the land to them. That's an investment that makes money year after year.
Except you are assuming the Jets are going to be successful and will not fold eventually. Like I said, he is a good businessman and as a good businessman he is not going to be betting the long shot but he will put himself in a position to profit either way.
The mistake you are making is assuming that simply because he has made this investment that a sound long term business case can be made for the hockey team. But that is not necessarily so. He can make money even if they fail.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
Not one person has been man enough to admit they were wrong about this day. :contract:
Katmai, CC, PRC, Viper, HVC, Zoupa, Ed Anger, I'm waiting. :cool:
I will admit I had serious doubt it was going to happen, and I was wrong :)
And I am glad I was wrong.
And I do believe that a hockey franchise in Winnipeg can be successful, given the new conditions of the market since 1996. Same goes for Quebec city.
Quote from: viper37 on June 01, 2011, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
Not one person has been man enough to admit they were wrong about this day. :contract:
Katmai, CC, PRC, Viper, HVC, Zoupa, Ed Anger, I'm waiting. :cool:
I will admit I had serious doubt it was going to happen, and I was wrong :)
And I am glad I was wrong.
:hug:
If you guys can get that building built, I believe you're next. :yeah:
CC is fighting hard to playerhate as best he can.
Hopefully we dont have another crash so this thread can be accessed in 5-10 years to see whether BB's optimism is justified.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 01:22:34 PM
It's more buy up cheap land, bring in a bunch of successful businesses and make money leasing the land to them. That's an investment that makes money year after year.
Except you are assuming the Jets are going to be successful and will not fold eventually. Like I said, he is a good businessman and as a good businessman he is not going to be betting the long shot but he will put himself in a position to profit either way.
The mistake you are making is assuming that simply because he has made this investment that a sound long term business case can be made for the hockey team. But that is not necessarily so. He can make money even if they fail.
It's ben obvious you're just been trolling me for awhile now as you haven't actually given any numbers or meaningful analysis. I went along with it for awhile because it allowed me to talk about the Jets, but I simply have no more information to give.
I've laid out the road map on how this will work. If you don't want to read the map, it's not my fault.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Hopefully we dont have another crash so this thread can be accessed in 5-10 years to see whether BB's optimism is justified.
Well my track record on the topic is a hell of a lot betetr than yours so far. :D
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 02:00:29 PM
I've laid out the road map on how this will work. If you don't want to read the map, it's not my fault.
If you cant even contemplate that this latest expansion experiment might fail its not my fault.
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Hopefully we dont have another crash so this thread can be accessed in 5-10 years to see whether BB's optimism is justified.
Well my track record on the topic is a hell of a lot betetr than yours so far. :D
A track record of clinging to every piece of news that the Jets might be resurrected.... brocken clock correct twice a day and all that.
The the real test is whether this venture actually succeeds. If by some miracle that happens then I will indeed admit I was wrong.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Hopefully we dont have another crash so this thread can be accessed in 5-10 years to see whether BB's optimism is justified.
Well my track record on the topic is a hell of a lot betetr than yours so far. :D
A track record of clinging to every piece of news that the Jets might be resurrected.... brocken clock correct twice a day and all that.
The the real test is whether this venture actually succeeds. If by some miracle that happens then I will indeed admit I was wrong.
No - the real test is that Winnipeg is back in the NHL - something you said would never happen. :cool:
And you'll never admit you're wrong. Much like the crazy prophet of the apocalypse, you can always claim the team will fail "soon". :wacko:
Quote from: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 02:09:00 PM
And you'll never admit you're wrong. Much like the crazy prophet of the apocalypse, you can always claim the team will fail "soon". :wacko:
And you will never admit I am not yet wrong.
http://languish.org/forums/index.php?topic=4524.msg257989#msg257989
Season tickets sold out within minutes of going on sale to the general public. :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Drive to 13,000 - success!
17 minutes to be precise. :yeah:
And now 14,000 on the waiting list! :yeah:
I'm considering putting my own name down on the wait list. If tickets are that crazy, it might be worth it so in 2020 I can get season tickets, go to 4-5 games, and be confident I could sell the remaining tickets at at least face value. :hmm:
Cost is $100 / year.
That is gonna be one long drive to Las Vegas to see them when they relocate in 6 years.
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
That is gonna be one long drive to Las Vegas to see them when they relocate in 6 years.
:lol:
I'm glad canada got a new team (even if it will make BB insufferable for a while) but i fell bad for the players. Going from warmth to to a frozen wasteland in the winter. That and the first years travel will be hell (and once the conferences are reshuffled it won't be too much better).
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
That is gonna be one long drive to Las Vegas to see them when they relocate in 6 years.
Because clearly Winnipeggers won't support this team. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
That is gonna be one long drive to Las Vegas to see them when they relocate in 6 years.
Because clearly Winnipeggers won't support this team. :rolleyes:
they won't have a choice for hte next five years what with the season ticket holders (it's a five year contract, right?) but if they suck after 5 years who knows. I kidded about them being short term stays as well, but really i'm not sure. if the "jets" suck as bad as the leafs (:weep:) five years from now well the fans still be around. were they around in 96?
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
That is gonna be one long drive to Las Vegas to see them when they relocate in 6 years.
Because clearly Winnipeggers won't support this team. :rolleyes:
When your sold out arena still ranks in bottom 10 for attendance won't matter.
Quote from: HVC on June 04, 2011, 02:23:25 PM
I'm glad canada got a new team (even if it will make BB insufferable for a while) but i fell bad for the players. Going from warmth to to a frozen wasteland in the winter. That and the first years travel will be hell (and once the conferences are reshuffled it won't be too much better).
I'm sure traffic is much less an hassle in Winnipeg then it is in Atlanta. I guess it's an improvement.
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 05:46:52 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
That is gonna be one long drive to Las Vegas to see them when they relocate in 6 years.
Because clearly Winnipeggers won't support this team. :rolleyes:
When your sold out arena still ranks in bottom 10 for attendance won't matter.
Attendance doesn't matter as much as ticket revenue. The Jets should be in the 10-15 place in the league for revenue.
You don't need to be #1 to be a success.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 04, 2011, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 04, 2011, 02:23:25 PM
I'm glad canada got a new team (even if it will make BB insufferable for a while) but i fell bad for the players. Going from warmth to to a frozen wasteland in the winter. That and the first years travel will be hell (and once the conferences are reshuffled it won't be too much better).
I'm sure traffic is much less an hassle in Winnipeg then it is in Atlanta. I guess it's an improvement.
What will be an improvement is playing in front of a roaring sold out arena night after night. What will be an improvement is being the undisputed stars of the city.
Some players may not like it. Attracting free agents will be an issue. But if your plan is to build through the draft you should be okay.
Yeah, see, if Winnipeg was an American city the Jets would now be second fiddle to the CFL team. :lol:
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2011, 01:29:58 PM
17 minutes to be precise. :yeah:
And now 14,000 on the waiting list! :yeah:
I'm considering putting my own name down on the wait list. If tickets are that crazy, it might be worth it so in 2020 I can get season tickets, go to 4-5 games, and be confident I could sell the remaining tickets at at least face value. :hmm:
Cost is $100 / year.
I was mistaken on the waiting list - they capped it at 8,000.
But WTF - how can you cap a waiting list? I was going to put my name on that list, just so I could support the team in some tangible manner. :mad:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 04, 2011, 06:18:29 PM
Yeah, see, if Winnipeg was an American city the Jets would now be second fiddle to the CFL team. :lol:
But why would the CFL be in an American city? :wacko:
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 05:46:52 PM
When your sold out arena still ranks in bottom 10 for attendance won't matter.
What?
Quote from: Neil on June 04, 2011, 06:32:14 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 05:46:52 PM
When your sold out arena still ranks in bottom 10 for attendance won't matter.
What?
Attendance figures for most US cities are a well known falsehood.
Quote from: Barrister on June 04, 2011, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 04, 2011, 06:32:14 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 04, 2011, 05:46:52 PM
When your sold out arena still ranks in bottom 10 for attendance won't matter.
What?
Attendance figures for most US cities are a well known falsehood.
I was referring to the Tim-like construction of the post.
Winnipeg cannot into NHL?
I just wanted to remind some of you who wrong you were. :hug:
Unfortunately with it being Thanksgiving and all, I won't be able to post endlessly about the game.
But just know that I'm enjoying every minute of watching THE WINNIPEG JETS!
It's not Thanksgiving for another month and a half. :contract:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2011, 12:47:09 PM
It's not Thanksgiving for another month and a half. :contract:
Wrong.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2011, 12:47:09 PM
It's not Thanksgiving for another month and a half. :contract:
I'm pretty sure it's today.
Today's not even a Thursday.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2011, 12:50:32 PM
Today's not even a Thursday.
Proper Holidays are either on the 25th or a Sunday/Monday combo.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 09, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2011, 12:47:09 PM
It's not Thanksgiving for another month and a half. :contract:
I'm pretty sure it's today.
Isn't it tomorrow? :huh:
Quote from: Neil on October 09, 2011, 12:47:33 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2011, 12:47:09 PM
It's not Thanksgiving for another month and a half. :contract:
Wrong.
QuoteStarting in 1879 Thanksgiving Day was observed every year, but the date was initially a Thursday in November.
I only celebrate Franksgiving.
Quote from: garbon on October 09, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 09, 2011, 12:47:33 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2011, 12:47:09 PM
It's not Thanksgiving for another month and a half. :contract:
Wrong.
QuoteStarting in 1879 Thanksgiving Day was observed every year, but the date was initially a Thursday in November.
Sorry, but you guys lost the War of 1812. You don't get to tell us when Thanksgiving is.
At any rate, there's no point having a harvest festival in late November in Canada.
Bumped to remind certain people why they should listen to me. :contract:
Thanksgiving stI'll isn't in October. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Barrister on April 04, 2012, 11:00:20 AM
Bumped to remind certain people why they should listen to me. :contract:
Bumped to remind BB that he didn't "say" anything, just posted a YouTube link that only idiots clicked, on given its lack of context. :contract:
You're insufferable. :D
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2lWh9.jpg&hash=33a5a84283430e649d56a3743ab4c7f3237d8e2a)
Quote from: Barrister on April 04, 2012, 11:00:20 AM
Bumped to remind certain people why they should listen to me. :contract:
I listen to you :)
But I'm not getting excited until the official announcement :)
Quote from: Barrister on April 04, 2012, 11:00:20 AM
Bumped to remind certain people why they should listen to me. :contract:
:contract:
Still not giving a fuck
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 01, 2014, 07:41:20 AM
Still not giving a fuck
I don't even understand Beeb's point, other than he wanted to use the I-am-being-an-asshole smiley. Did something change?
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2016, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2014, 11:02:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 04, 2012, 11:00:20 AM
Bumped to remind certain people why they should listen to me. :contract:
:contract:
:contract:
BB, time to face facts, no one here is going to click on that link to the sex tape you and your missus made.
I clicked on it. The video has been taken down. The title should be going back to [somewhere].
Sigh.
This day, five years ago, the NHL made it's triumphant return to Winnipeg. Something I had been predicting for years, and that many widely mocked me for.
This is my "I Told You So" thread from five years ago.
:cool:
Fuck you BB. Sherman burned the city, but it could rebuild. What can we do to come back from this? Atlanta will never be the same. :cry:
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2016, 10:13:15 AM
Fuck you BB. Sherman burned the city, but it could rebuild. What can we do to come back from this? Atlanta will never be the same. :cry:
In time, Atlanta will get another team.
And then that team will, in turn, eventually move to Canada.
It's the Circle of Life.
I can't believe I almost forgot to bump this thread this year. :cool:
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2016, 10:20:13 AM
In time, Atlanta will get another team.
And then that team will, in turn, eventually move to Canada.
It's the Circle of Life.
BB, you were right on the first part. We got another team. A soccer team. And we like it.
Atlanta United is leading MLS in attendance at over 47k a game. Playing in a college stadium originally built in 1913 (and last renovated about 10 years ago) because their real stadium isn't ready yet.
By contrast, the braves are averaging about 30k a game, middle of the pack in MLB, and have a brand new stadium that just opened and cost over $600m to build.
People sometimes give Atlanta sports fans crap about not supporting their teams, but maybe we just never got what we really wanted: a mediocre team in a shitty soccer league. :huh:
Cool. So when does that team move to Canada? :P
But seriously, Atlanta seems like a town that should be able to support MLS. Are the fans mostly the urban hipster types, or have they tapped into a latino or black fanbase?
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2017, 01:10:09 PM
People sometimes give Atlanta sports fans crap about not supporting their teams, but maybe we just never got what we really wanted: a mediocre team in a shitty soccer league. :huh:
do you know the average ticket price for both sports? And the price of various on site commodities (food&drinks)?
I'm guessing that a shitty team in a shitty soccer league would charge much less for both than a MLB or NHL team and that might explain why so many people like affordable entertainment.
MLS is popular with the junior high and high school demos that play and supported by the suburban soccermom set, naturally.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2017, 01:19:42 PM
Are the fans mostly the urban hipster types, or have they tapped into a latino or black fanbase?
Overwhelmingly urban hipsters.
To be fair, a lot of people grew up playing soccer and are excited to see the game at the pro level (see CdM's post). But I now live in the city, in a place where the bars and restaurants are in danger of being overrun by hipsters, and I see more stuff for Atlanta United than the Braves, Falcons, and Hawks. It has really turned me off to the team, which I would be inclined to passively support.
I'm not sure how many of these fans are going to stick though.
Quote from: alfred russel on May 31, 2017, 02:21:41 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2017, 01:19:42 PM
Are the fans mostly the urban hipster types, or have they tapped into a latino or black fanbase?
Overwhelmingly urban hipsters.
To be fair, a lot of people grew up playing soccer and are excited to see the game at the pro level (see CdM's post). But I now live in the city, in a place where the bars and restaurants are in danger of being overrun by hipsters, and I see more stuff for Atlanta United than the Braves, Falcons, and Hawks. It has really turned me off to the team, which I would be inclined to passively support.
I'm not sure how many of these fans are going to stick though.
That's the problem with being the new hip thing. When a newer, hipper thing comes along all your fans are going to vanish.
But some brief reading it sounds like they're doing things right. They're owned by Blank and the Falcons, so there's money behind them.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2017, 02:40:59 PM
But some brief reading it sounds like they're doing things right. They're owned by Blank and the Falcons, so there's money behind them.
I'm not really sure how MLS ownership works. The teams are owned by the league, the owners are shareowners of the league, and the players have their contracts with the league. I don't know how that reconciles with individual team ownership.
So....
Not only are the Jets STILL in the NHL seven years after relocation, but they just had their most successful season ever making it to the conference finals. :cool:
Quote from: katmai on June 01, 2011, 12:03:23 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 31, 2011, 08:39:57 PM
I already told you congrats in other thread ya fucking dumbass uke.
It's not the congrats I want - it's the admission that you should have listened to your Barrister - he knew what he was talking about. :contract:
I choose to wait to the day in about ten years when the Manitoba Polar Bears break your heart and move and become the Charleston Chiefs. ^_^
Just three years to go on this one Katmai. Not looking very good for you so far...
I consider myself told
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 31, 2018, 11:36:00 AM
I consider myself told
I'm still holding out. I haven't been told nuthin' :contract:
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2018, 11:20:18 AM
So....
Not only are the Jets STILL in the NHL seven years after relocation, but they just had their most successful season ever making it to the conference finals. :cool:
Where they got thrashed. :nelson:
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 31, 2018, 04:38:44 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2018, 11:20:18 AM
So....
Not only are the Jets STILL in the NHL seven years after relocation, but they just had their most successful season ever making it to the conference finals. :cool:
Where they got thrashed. :nelson:
They still did better than 27 other teams in the league. :contract:
Still have 3 years buttercup.
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: katmai on June 01, 2011, 12:03:23 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 31, 2011, 08:39:57 PM
I already told you congrats in other thread ya fucking dumbass uke.
It's not the congrats I want - it's the admission that you should have listened to your Barrister - he knew what he was talking about. :contract:
I choose to wait to the day in about ten years when the Manitoba Polar Bears break your heart and move and become the Charleston Chiefs. ^_^
Just three years to go on this one Katmai. Not looking very good for you so far...
Two years to go... :shifty:
I can't believe it was almost 10am before I remembered this annual bump. :)
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Hopefully we dont have another crash so this thread can be accessed in 5-10 years to see whether BB's optimism is justified.
Just cruising through the thread, looking for gems like this one. :)
Check in 2021
Besides is the hockey still going on?
Yeah the Bruins and Blues are going at it. We are partying like its 1970.
This thread confused me.
Quote from: Josephus on May 31, 2019, 12:33:41 PM
This thread confused me.
I was thoroughly told so in this thread.
Quote from: Josephus on May 31, 2019, 12:33:41 PM
This thread confused me.
It's for BB to gloat about his stolen hockey team.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on June 01, 2019, 02:14:58 AM
Quote from: Josephus on May 31, 2019, 12:33:41 PM
This thread confused me.
It's for BB to gloat about his stolen hockey team. being right that NHL hockey was coming back to Winnipeg.
FYP.
2020 Bump. :cool:
You are good at holding a grudge
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 02, 2020, 12:05:40 PM
You are good at holding a grudge
:cool:
Winnipeg Jets day is the same day as my oldest son's birthday, so t's easy to remember.
Next year will be a doozy, as several people in this very thread said the Jets wouldn't last to 10 years. It's been 9 years so far...
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 02, 2020, 12:05:40 PM
You are good at holding a grudge
He's a Conservative :P
Quote from: Barrister on June 02, 2020, 03:39:20 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 02, 2020, 12:05:40 PM
You are good at holding a grudge
?
:cool:
Winnipeg Jets day is the same day as my oldest son's birthday, so t's easy to remember.
Next year will be a doozy, as several people in this very thread said the Jets wouldn't last to 10 years. It's been 9 years so far...
Is he named Jets? ;)
Quote from: Barrister on June 02, 2020, 03:39:20 PM
Winnipeg Jets day is the same day as my oldest son's birthday, so t's easy to remember.
I don't put it past you to have planned it this way...
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on June 02, 2020, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 02, 2020, 03:39:20 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 02, 2020, 12:05:40 PM
You are good at holding a grudge
?
:cool:
Winnipeg Jets day is the same day as my oldest son's birthday, so t's easy to remember.
Next year will be a doozy, as several people in this very thread said the Jets wouldn't last to 10 years. It's been 9 years so far...
Is he named Jets? ;)
No. That would be a silly name.
My wife did reject the name Teemu for him though. :(
Quote from: Oexmelin on June 02, 2020, 03:42:46 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 02, 2020, 03:39:20 PM
Winnipeg Jets day is the same day as my oldest son's birthday, so t's easy to remember.
I don't put it past you to have planned it this way...
I like the way you think... :shifty:
But no, Timothy was born May 31, 2010. Jets return was announced May 31, 2011.
Geez, think of the awful existential crisis of having to live with that every birthday.
Congratulations on having your very own hockey team that isn't allowed to play any games.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on June 02, 2020, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 02, 2020, 03:39:20 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 02, 2020, 12:05:40 PM
You are good at holding a grudge
?
:cool:
Winnipeg Jets day is the same day as my oldest son's birthday, so t's easy to remember.
Next year will be a doozy, as several people in this very thread said the Jets wouldn't last to 10 years. It's been 9 years so far...
Is he named Jets? ;)
IRC, he's an Oiler's fan.
Quote from: saskganesh on June 02, 2020, 04:59:26 PM
IRC, he's an Oiler's fan.
Oldest is indeed a Jets fan. :cool: Oilers are his second favourite, but I usually take him to a Jets @ Oilers game once a year, and he does indeed cheer for the Jets.
But if you ask the other two, their favourite teams are the Sharks and the Golden Knights. :huh:
All of them are young enough though that a huge run by the Oilers (or the Jets for that matter) could change things. Kids always like to cheer for a winner.
The Sharks? They must love to suffer.
And they love a winner? The Sharks are one of the most cursed teams in the NHL.
My daughter is a Jets baby 😱 Teemu was also shot down for her name.
Quote from: Valmy on June 02, 2020, 05:56:33 PM
The Sharks? They must love to suffer.
And they love a winner? The Sharks are one of the most cursed teams in the NHL.
Back when he was five someone asked him what his favourite team was, and out of the blue he said the Sharks. Why the Sharks? Because sharks (the animal) are cool.
He's turning 8 this month and he's stuck with it.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 02, 2020, 05:59:09 PM
My daughter is a Jets baby 😱 Teemu was also shot down for her name.
:o
How did that happen?
First part, by being born on May 31 2011.
Second part, :shifty:
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 02, 2020, 06:20:18 PM
First part, by being born on May 31 2011.
Second part, :shifty:
A good day to be born!
You still have to actually tell me the second part... :yes:
Only a joke.
Quote from: katmai on June 01, 2011, 12:03:23 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2011, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 31, 2011, 08:39:57 PM
I already told you congrats in other thread ya fucking dumbass uke.
It's not the congrats I want - it's the admission that you should have listened to your Barrister - he knew what he was talking about. :contract:
I choose to wait to the day in about ten years when the Manitoba Polar Bears break your heart and move and become the Charleston Chiefs. ^_^
Jets start their 10th season in Winnipeg tonight. :cool:
BB! What do you think about your new hometown (kinda) center?
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 25, 2021, 10:33:07 PM
BB! What do you think about your new hometown (kinda) center?
:weep:
Losing Laine is... rough. Remember next to losing the Jets themselves in the 90s, having Teemu Selanne traded away was almost as bad. And now we again had our own budding superstar Finn (who I loved his personality) traded away... I broke my own rule and for the first time in my life I bought a hockey jersey with a player's name and number on it - yup a Laine Heritage Classic jersey 3 1/2 years ago. Tim even has a signed Laine puck (courtesy of my cousin who does radio play-by-play for the team).
Dubois though. I mean I never watch CBJ games. Okay so I do have a buddy who is a Blue Jackets fan (he's from Edmonton but got his PhD at THE Ohio State) who says he's good. His stats look very good. It's certainly always nice to have someone who seems genuinely excited to come to Winnipeg.
(for everyone else - Dubois's father is an Assistant coach with the AHL Manitoba Moose. Dubois actually spent a big chunk of time in lockdown in Winnipeg in the spring / summer with his folks)
And for several years the center position has been a team weakness going past Schiefele. Now suddenly this year it's a strength, between Scheifele, Dubois and Stastny?!? This is through the looking glass territory folks.
Just have to wait for PLD's 14-day quarantine to be over, since he crossed the border.
How can the NHL function with a quarantine in place?
Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 26, 2021, 12:55:15 AM
How can the NHL function with a quarantine in place?
Very badly. The NHL is set to lose millions this season.
But it considers it worse to cancel the season so here we go.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 26, 2021, 12:55:15 AM
How can the NHL function with a quarantine in place?
It's not an NHL quarantine. It's a Canada quarantine. Canada requires those entering the country abide by a 14 day quarantine. The league has adjusted by having an all-Canada division, with no out-of-division play all season.
Dubois has to quarantine because he was traded from a US team (Columbus) to a Canadian team.
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2021, 11:43:27 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 25, 2021, 10:33:07 PM
BB! What do you think about your new hometown (kinda) center?
:weep:
Losing Laine is... rough. Remember next to losing the Jets themselves in the 90s, having Teemu Selanne traded away was almost as bad. And now we again had our own budding superstar Finn (who I loved his personality) traded away... I broke my own rule and for the first time in my life I bought a hockey jersey with a player's name and number on it - yup a Laine Heritage Classic jersey 3 1/2 years ago. Tim even has a signed Laine puck (courtesy of my cousin who does radio play-by-play for the team).
Dubois though. I mean I never watch CBJ games. Okay so I do have a buddy who is a Blue Jackets fan (he's from Edmonton but got his PhD at THE Ohio State) who says he's good. His stats look very good. It's certainly always nice to have someone who seems genuinely excited to come to Winnipeg.
(for everyone else - Dubois's father is an Assistant coach with the AHL Manitoba Moose. Dubois actually spent a big chunk of time in lockdown in Winnipeg in the spring / summer with his folks)
And for several years the center position has been a team weakness going past Schiefele. Now suddenly this year it's a strength, between Scheifele, Dubois and Stastny?!? This is through the looking glass territory folks.
Just have to wait for PLD's 14-day quarantine to be over, since he crossed the border.
I think in the end it will be great trade for the team. Laine seemed fed up with the coaching staff/front office, probably not going to like CBJ very much.
Having a 2nd legitimate 1st line center will help Schiefele a lot, especially this year.
Now just need to get rid of the worse coach in the NHL.
This is it!
The ten year anniversary of the "I TOLD YOU SO" thread.
I'm going to spare the feelings of people who once said the NHL would never return to Winnipeg, and then once it did, said they would never last 10 years. You know who you are.
give me another 10, i'm feeling luck this time :P
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2021, 11:11:36 AM
This is it!
The ten year anniversary of the "I TOLD YOU SO" thread.
I'm going to spare the feelings of people who once said the NHL would never return to Winnipeg, and then once it did, said they would never last 10 years. You know who you are.
Yes, I know.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Hopefully we dont have another crash so this thread can be accessed in 5-10 years to see whether BB's optimism is justified.
:cool:
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2021, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 01, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Hopefully we dont have another crash so this thread can be accessed in 5-10 years to see whether BB's optimism is justified.
:cool:
I am happy for you BB. I am even more happy I did not make a bet with you. :D
i mostly just pick on the jets to mess with BB, i'm glad there's another Canadian team. just would have preferred the Nordiques come back before the jets :P
I too am happy for BB :cheers:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1392517745598627841
If anyone has 5 minutes to kill, embedded in the video above is a short video specifically about the May 31, 2011 announcement of the return of the Jets. Because this is the 10th season (and because some of the Jets people have no as much work to do with no fans in the building) they've made a series of videos player during the first intermission setting out various Jets 2.0 highlights. This one is about the announcement. It includes quotes from (amongst others) Gary Bettman, and Jets owners Mark Chipman and David Thomson. Thomson in particular is ultra-secretive (Canada's richest man, and also the third Baron of Fleet) and this is literally the second time I've ever heard him speak about the Jets - with the first being on May 31, 2011.
And here is the 11th anniversary. :cool:
12th anniversary. :showoff:
My annual "I was wrong" post.
Isn't there question to relocate the team? :D
Quote from: Barrister on May 31, 2023, 09:42:36 AM12th anniversary. :showoff:
12 Years? LV is half that and has been stanly cup contenders. What's your excuse?
:P kidding. Congrats.
Quote from: Rex Francorum on June 01, 2023, 02:09:33 PMIsn't there question to relocate the team? :D
Nah. The old franchise is moving from Arizona, possibly, but not BB's team. :)
Quote from: HVC on June 01, 2023, 02:12:52 PMQuote from: Barrister on May 31, 2023, 09:42:36 AM12th anniversary. :showoff:
12 Years? LV is half that and has been stanly cup contenders. What's your excuse?
:P kidding. Congrats.
Las Vegas is my excuse. Those fuckers, eliminated the Jets twice from the playoffs. :ultra: