I can only think of two that are even debateable. Godfather II and Aliens.
Dark Knight springs to mind. I didn't hate Batman Begins but Dark Knight is far, far better.
I prefer Terminator 2. Paddington 2 is also, I think, better than Paddington - as with Dark Knight because of an astounding performance by the main villain :lol:
Wrath of Khan and Empire Strikes back too? :hmm:
Oh yeah, Mad Max II for sure.
Yes! Huge jump even though I like the first one.
Godfather II? Why? The first is already a master piece, the second just continued that. :hmm:
Mad Max II is the textbook example. First Mad Max being pre-apocalypse while the second defined the post-apocalyptic genre in pop culture. Countless rip-offs followed be it in the US, Philippines, Italy etc.
I like Star Trek the motion picture (rushed production and SFX being redone/eventually finished for the upcoming 4K release :D) but the Wrath of Khan is a classic.
Empire strikes back is the best of the three, and there is a jump in quality compared to the first one but not a huge one.
Nolan's Batman movies are overrated IMO but the second did not seem as ridiculous as the others.
Mad Max 2 is probably the answer here.
Thor Ragnaorok deserves a shout out too. Or is 3rd films a different thing?
Quote from: Zanza on April 09, 2022, 02:18:12 PMGodfather II? Why? The first is already a master piece, the second just continued that. :hmm:
When I started the thread I really couldn't think of any out and out improvements, so I mentioned the two I did because they were the only two I could think of in which a case could plausibly be made that the second is better.
I also don't get the implied disdain for Star Wars I. It's ossum.
Was "The Road Warrior" 1 or 2?
2
Also, are we sticking to Part twos'? Otherwise the Mad Max saga could score twice with Fury Road. And I would also put forward The Good, the Bad & The Ugly.
All 3 Dollars movies were masterpieces.
Fury Road's sequel has yet to be filmed, I thought.
In any case, I think that my vote would be for The Dark Knight. Batman Begins was borderline lame, and TDK was brilliant.
Quote from: celedhring on April 09, 2022, 03:49:47 PMAlso, are we sticking to Part twos'? Otherwise the Mad Max saga could score twice with Fury Road. And I would also put forward The Good, the Bad & The Ugly.
No rules! Let anarchy reign!
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 09, 2022, 03:58:37 PMAll 3 Dollars movies were masterpieces.
I'd say only the last one is, but masterpiece is a fuzzy concept. Anyhow, the last is so much better than the previous 2.
I'll also mention Terminator 2. Yes, The Terminator is a fine film, but it is very much a b-movie. T2 remains one of the best action films ever made, imho.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 09, 2022, 03:58:37 PMAll 3 Dollars movies were masterpieces.
Yeah, but they weren't really a series. You could watch them in any order, so none of them was really a sequel to any of the others. Leone not only said as much, but also pointed out that Lee van Cleef plays two different significant characters.
Quote from: celedhring on April 09, 2022, 04:04:13 PMQuote from: Eddie Teach on April 09, 2022, 03:58:37 PMAll 3 Dollars movies were masterpieces.
I'd say only the last one is, but masterpiece is a fuzzy concept. Anyhow, the last is so much better than the previous 2.
I'll also mention Terminator 2. Yes, The Terminator is a fine film, but it is very much a b-movie. T2 remains one of the best action films ever made, imho.
Yep Terminator 2 holds up extremely well to this day.
My second choice is also Dark Knight.
Quote from: celedhring on April 09, 2022, 04:04:13 PMI'll also mention Terminator 2. Yes, The Terminator is a fine film, but it is very much a b-movie. T2 remains one of the best action films ever made, imho.
T2 was much better than T1, but was also a different kind of move (Much as
Aliens is a different kind of movie than
Alien).
T1 and
Alien are horror, not action. I tend to like action more than horror so liked the sequels better, but think people with different tastes would disagree.
Really hard to argue with Terminator 2 or Aliens. But let me give it a shot.
Captain America: Winter Soldier
Now it's kind of cheating, as Captain America was in one or more Avengers movies in-between. But Captain America: The First Avenger was pretty mediocre superhero origin story, but Winter Soldier broke through into a political thriller/action movie that was pretty damn good.
No wait - even better. Superman 2. Come fight me.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2022, 04:02:33 PMQuote from: celedhring on April 09, 2022, 03:49:47 PMAlso, are we sticking to Part twos'? Otherwise the Mad Max saga could score twice with Fury Road. And I would also put forward The Good, the Bad & The Ugly.
No rules! Let anarchy reign!
Okay - I thought we were limited to direct sequels.
In that case, Rocky IV.
If we're not limited to direct sequels then Mad Max: Fury Road sweeps the floor.
I guess I am that weird heretic, that while loving Mad Max, Road Warrior, and even Thunderdome...couldn't last past the first 5-10 minutes of Fury Road. It was just too ridiculous.
If we are not limited to direct sequels, then The Room -> No Country for Old Men is the greatest increase in quality.
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 09, 2022, 08:06:28 PMI guess I am that weird heretic, that while loving Mad Max, Road Warrior, and even Thunderdome...couldn't last past the first 5-10 minutes of Fury Road. It was just too ridiculous.
Plus, not a sequel.
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 09, 2022, 08:06:28 PMI guess I am that weird heretic, that while loving Mad Max, Road Warrior, and even Thunderdome...couldn't last past the first 5-10 minutes of Fury Road. It was just too ridiculous.
How can it be more ridiculous than Road Warrior? It's a 2 1/2 hour riff on the chase in Road Warrior.
Quote from: grumbler on April 09, 2022, 08:09:12 PMIf we are not limited to direct sequels, then The Room -> No Country for Old Men is the greatest increase in quality.
You tearing me apart!
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. I know some people love the Motion Picture, but I find it crappy.
Fury Road is as much a direct sequel of Beyond the Thunderdome as Road Warrior is a sequel of Mad Max. Continuity has always been extremely loose in the series. The framing device of 2-3 as legends being told in the future about Max Rockatansky was an elegant way to solve this.
I liken it a lot to the Dollars trilogy, in fact, where continuity is also extremely dubious (with Lee Van Cleef playing different characters in different movies of the saga, for example), and it's all about following a wandering main character.
I thought the Will Smith Ali sequel was intriguing. Seems to have gotten a lot of attention.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2022, 06:21:14 PMIn that case, Rocky IV.
No way it's better than the first one. :lol:
Cheesier, more '80s action as in reaganian. Very entertaining of course, but not better.
It's like saying Rambo II (First Blood part II is better than the first).
Wrath of Khan is an obvious answer.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 11, 2022, 09:08:44 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2022, 06:21:14 PMIn that case, Rocky IV.
No way it's better than the first one. :lol:
Cheesier, more '80s action as in reaganian. Very entertaining of course, but not better.
It's like saying Rambo II (First Blood part II is better than the first).
Overall, the #1 has a better story. #2 is a great sequel. #3 could have been better, but it's still watchable. #4 is a classic Reaganite action movie, but its production value is superior to all the 3 first ones. #1 and #2 are barely understandable in English, for a non native at least. Stallone must have had acting lessons after #2 'cause he speaks more clearly from then on. His brother in law Italian accent was also extremely hard to understand in the first two.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 11, 2022, 09:08:44 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2022, 06:21:14 PMIn that case, Rocky IV.
No way it's better than the first one. :lol:
Cheesier, more '80s action as in reaganian. Very entertaining of course, but not better.
It's like saying Rambo II (First Blood part II is better than the first).
Does Iron Eagle II belong here or in the other thread?
(I can't even remember the plot :P )
Quote from: viper37 on April 11, 2022, 09:51:44 AMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on April 11, 2022, 09:08:44 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2022, 06:21:14 PMIn that case, Rocky IV.
No way it's better than the first one. :lol:
Cheesier, more '80s action as in reaganian. Very entertaining of course, but not better.
It's like saying Rambo II (First Blood part II is better than the first).
Overall, the #1 has a better story. #2 is a great sequel. #3 could have been better, but it's still watchable. #4 is a classic Reaganite action movie, but its production value is superior to all the 3 first ones. #1 and #2 are barely understandable in English, for a non native at least. Stallone must have had acting lessons after #2 'cause he speaks more clearly from then on. His brother in law Italian accent was also extremely hard to understand in the first two.
There are always subtitles. ;)
French dub of Stallone is even worse so I respecfully disagree (I won't even say the name of the culprit). :P I believe francophone Canada got its own dub for Rocky Balboa. Did not recognize the usual voice anyways.
Paulie's dub is also more neutral so it's also a betrayal. :D
#2 is too much of a melodramatic rehash of the first for my taste.
#3 has a great Mr T as the villain Clubber Lang, but yes #4 has the only better villain with Dolph as Ivan Drago. Both movies are classic '80s cheese but that's not enough to say there is a jump in quality compared to the first one.
Unsurprisingly, the awful #5 is not even mentioned, for good reason.
Rocky Balboa is one of the best film series endings IMO.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 11, 2022, 09:55:25 AMQuote from: viper37 on April 11, 2022, 09:51:44 AMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on April 11, 2022, 09:08:44 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2022, 06:21:14 PMIn that case, Rocky IV.
No way it's better than the first one. :lol:
Cheesier, more '80s action as in reaganian. Very entertaining of course, but not better.
It's like saying Rambo II (First Blood part II is better than the first).
Overall, the #1 has a better story. #2 is a great sequel. #3 could have been better, but it's still watchable. #4 is a classic Reaganite action movie, but its production value is superior to all the 3 first ones. #1 and #2 are barely understandable in English, for a non native at least. Stallone must have had acting lessons after #2 'cause he speaks more clearly from then on. His brother in law Italian accent was also extremely hard to understand in the first two.
There are always subtitles. ;)
French dub of Stallone is even worse so I respecfully disagree (I won't even say the name of the culprit). :P I believe francophone Canada got its own dub for Rocky Balboa.
Unsurprisingly, the awful #5 is not even mentioned, for good reason.
Hey - you didn't even mention #6 either. :P
Quote from: Barrister on April 11, 2022, 09:59:21 AMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on April 11, 2022, 09:55:25 AMQuote from: viper37 on April 11, 2022, 09:51:44 AMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on April 11, 2022, 09:08:44 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2022, 06:21:14 PMIn that case, Rocky IV.
No way it's better than the first one. :lol:
Cheesier, more '80s action as in reaganian. Very entertaining of course, but not better.
It's like saying Rambo II (First Blood part II is better than the first).
Overall, the #1 has a better story. #2 is a great sequel. #3 could have been better, but it's still watchable. #4 is a classic Reaganite action movie, but its production value is superior to all the 3 first ones. #1 and #2 are barely understandable in English, for a non native at least. Stallone must have had acting lessons after #2 'cause he speaks more clearly from then on. His brother in law Italian accent was also extremely hard to understand in the first two.
There are always subtitles. ;)
French dub of Stallone is even worse so I respecfully disagree (I won't even say the name of the culprit). :P I believe francophone Canada got its own dub for Rocky Balboa.
Unsurprisingly, the awful #5 is not even mentioned, for good reason.
Hey - you didn't even mention #6 either. :P
I did actually. :contract:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 11, 2022, 09:55:25 AMRocky Balboa is one of the best film series endings IMO.
Quote from: celedhring on April 11, 2022, 08:18:57 AMFury Road is as much a direct sequel of Beyond the Thunderdome as Road Warrior is a sequel of Mad Max. Continuity has always been extremely loose in the series. The framing device of 2-3 as legends being told in the future about Max Rockatansky was an elegant way to solve this.
I liken it a lot to the Dollars trilogy, in fact, where continuity is also extremely dubious (with Lee Van Cleef playing different characters in different movies of the saga, for example), and it's all about following a wandering main character.
One of the things that is intriguing about TGBatU, is that Eastwood's character steps back quite a bit from the main role to be really a 3-man ensemble cast. I think it hard to really pick one out as the "main" over another. Van Cleef's role is certainly the lesser of the three, and Eli Wallach's colorful performance definitely makes him shine brighter...almost to making it an Eastwood/Wallach anti-buddy film.
Not sure about the unanimity about Aliens. I thought Alien was better.
Quote from: Josephus on April 11, 2022, 11:31:41 AMNot sure about the unanimity about Aliens. I thought Alien was better.
You definitely shouldn't be sure about "the unanimity about Aliens," because it isn't there. I mentioned in post #18 that some people would prefer
Alien.
Yeah, I prefer Aliens but I think it's much a matter of opinion. They are different movies in the end, they scratch different itches (survival horror/sci-fi action).
Also, in snotty film critic circles Alien has a better reputation.
Alien has 3 ossum scenes and a lot of snoozer mood filler. I've rewatched Aliens maybe a dozen times, Alien maybe once.
Alien suffers a bit in modern times because so many of its innovations were copied so often that they became tropes and then clichés.
I saw it in the Mann's Chinese Theater on opening day (with all the sound channels making you think the alien was moving around behind you during that period when they are looking for it), and I can honestly say that the experience was so intense as to be almost traumatic. It is absolutely my most memorable theater experience.
Alien is better than Aliens by far.
Aliens is a worthy sequel. Gets out of how they couldn't just do the same again. But doesn't compare to the original.
On terminator vs terminator 2 I'm more torn on which is best.
Put me in the liking Alien camp. Aliens was good but not an improvement on the original
Quote from: Josquius on April 11, 2022, 02:45:55 PMAlien is better than Aliens by far.
Aliens is a worthy sequel. Gets out of how they couldn't just do the same again. But doesn't compare to the original.
On terminator vs terminator 2 I'm more torn on which is best.
They're similar cases. Both Alien/T1 are about unstoppable nonhuman forces (both chasing a woman), and work as horror movies. Then both sequels go more in the action movie direction.
In Alien you have different directors with different goals and sensibilities, but in the case of T2 I feel that it more fully realizes what Cameron wanted to do (with the caveat that Arnie was probably too much of a four-quadrant star to play the baddie again) The Terminator is a B movie (a great B movie), and it shows.
But preferring T1 is perfectly defensible. Again, Yi's criteria of "which one would I rather rewatch" makes me side with T2. I'll watch that film anytime, while for The Therminator I'll probably just youtube the Tech Noir / Police station scenes.
I've always thought of Alien and Aliens as roughly equal in quality, but since they're very different genres straight comparisons are difficult.
T1 is much better than T2.
Quote from: The Brain on April 11, 2022, 03:41:42 PMT1 is much better than T2.
You're crazy, man.
T1 is cool, but it's still a schlocky, low-budget B movie. T2 was big-budget Hollywood with all the bells and whistles of its time.
I think to find the big jump, you really need to find a bad first movie with a good sequel. Not a good or excellent first movie with an even better second.
Which is what makes this interesting, since bad movies don't typically get sequels at all....
Quote from: Berkut on April 11, 2022, 04:11:55 PMI think to find the big jump, you really need to find a bad first movie with a good sequel. Not a good or excellent first movie with an even better second.
Which is what makes this interesting, since bad movies don't typically get sequels at all....
I think this might be where we have to go back to The Wrath of Khan. I think I would call The Motion Picture a bad movie...
Quote from: Barrister on April 11, 2022, 04:13:52 PMQuote from: Berkut on April 11, 2022, 04:11:55 PMI think to find the big jump, you really need to find a bad first movie with a good sequel. Not a good or excellent first movie with an even better second.
Which is what makes this interesting, since bad movies don't typically get sequels at all....
I think this might be where we have to go back to The Wrath of Khan. I think I would call The Motion Picture a bad movie...
Boring? Sure. "Bad" I'm not sure it gets there.
A possiblity is Logan. The previous two Wolverine movies are really bad. Logan is pretty good.
Quote from: celedhring on April 11, 2022, 04:17:31 PMBoring? Sure. "Bad" I'm not sure it gets there.
A possiblity is Logan. The previous two Wolverine movies are really bad. Logan is pretty good.
Isn't "boring" about the worst sin a movie can have?
I've watched some pretty bad movies because at least there was something interesting about them...
Just realised the correct answer to this thread is Evil Dead 2.
Quote from: Barrister on April 11, 2022, 04:19:20 PMQuote from: celedhring on April 11, 2022, 04:17:31 PMBoring? Sure. "Bad" I'm not sure it gets there.
A possiblity is Logan. The previous two Wolverine movies are really bad. Logan is pretty good.
Isn't "boring" about the worst sin a movie can have?
I've watched some pretty bad movies because at least there was something interesting about them...
Whenever it was on I always tried to be around to watch the ending. Always liked the Vogayer twist.
It's not a bad movie.
Quote from: celedhring on April 11, 2022, 04:17:31 PMa bad movie...
Boring? Sure. "Bad" I'm not sure it gets there.
A possiblity is Logan. The previous two Wolverine movies are really bad. Logan is pretty good.
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Disagree with you here.
Origins wolverine was awful.
The Wolverine was pretty good.
Logan was also good.
Though they're all films about a common character rather than sequels. They really don't follow each other - which is sad as The wolverine seemed set for a sequel.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2022, 04:21:09 PMJust realised the correct answer to this thread is Evil Dead 2.
I honestly don't know if I ever saw 1 or 2 (have seen Army of Darkness - it's fun).
But they're both pretty popular cult movies though aren't they?
Quote from: Barrister on April 11, 2022, 04:35:18 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2022, 04:21:09 PMJust realised the correct answer to this thread is Evil Dead 2.
I honestly don't know if I ever saw 1 or 2 (have seen Army of Darkness - it's fun).
But they're both pretty popular cult movies though aren't they?
Evil Dead 2 is essentially a remake of Evil Dead 1, just better and with a dark comedic tone. Sheilbh might be onto something...
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2022, 04:21:09 PMJust realised the correct answer to this thread is Evil Dead 2.
Evil Dead 2 is a bigger budget remake of the first, rather than a bona fide sequel. celed beat me to it
Army of Darkness is pretty fun as well, but not exactly the same genre.
By the way, no one to argue that Zombi/Dawn of the Living Dead is actually better than Night of the Living Dead?
Star Trek The Motion Picture was, at best, a very very mediocre movie. It didn't even do anything that the series hadn't done, just did it on a big screen a lot longer. I could easily imagine that story just being an episode of Trek.
Start Trek II is a classic. and there is no way you could have done it in an episode of Trek.
Quote from: Berkut on April 11, 2022, 04:54:27 PMStar Trek The Motion Picture was, at best, a very very mediocre movie. It didn't even do anything that the series hadn't done, just did it on a big screen a lot longer. I could easily imagine that story just being an episode of Trek.
Start Trek II is a classic. and there is no way you could have done it in an episode of Trek.
Disagree. In a TOS episode you could not have devoted a 20 minute scene to showing the Enterprise at every possible angle, over and over again. :sleep:
I made my wife watch that movie and she was like "Ok, we get it, the Enterprise is really cool. Can we move on now, or were all the Trekkies still jerking off at this point?" :lol:
None of the Trek movies were all that great. :sleep:
Wrath was fun romp at the time, pushed all the right buttons. It looks ridiculous now.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 11, 2022, 06:57:19 PMWrath was fun romp at the time, pushed all the right buttons. It looks ridiculous now.
Does anyone else feel like a little giggle when I mention my movie....Wrath...of Khan?
I actually rewatched Khan a few months ago, and while it's not going to make a "best sci-fi films evah" list I think it's still pretty great. Yes, it very much feels like an old movie, but in a good way, and I have no qualms with watching old movies anyway. It's a very nice adventure romp, and the whole "age of sail in space" slow-paced approach to the space battles remains fairly unique in the age of Star Wars.
I will say though that Montalbán's acting hasn't aged that well. Too over the top.
Imagine the shame of acting in a film with William Shatner and being the one called out for over-acting :ph34r:
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 12, 2022, 04:11:08 AMImagine the shame of acting in a film with William Shatner and being the one called out for over-acting :ph34r:
It's certainly a duel of titans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7X01_j_oDA&ab_channel=Movieclips
Tbf Shatner is probably worse, I guess I'm just more used to him at this point :P
Quote from: celedhring on April 12, 2022, 01:45:23 AMIt's a very nice adventure romp, and the whole "age of sail in space" slow-paced approach to the space battles remains fairly unique in the age of Star Wars.
I totally agree!
I was watching Picard with the GF, and it seems like massive starships turned into fighter planes, with point ahead weapons aimed by aiming the ship, and dodging and weaving constituting "tactics".
Quote from: Berkut on April 12, 2022, 09:43:03 AMQuote from: celedhring on April 12, 2022, 01:45:23 AMIt's a very nice adventure romp, and the whole "age of sail in space" slow-paced approach to the space battles remains fairly unique in the age of Star Wars.
I totally agree!
I was watching Picard with the GF, and it seems like massive starships turned into fighter planes, with point ahead weapons aimed by aiming the ship, and dodging and weaving constituting "tactics".
Yeah, modern Star Trek is basically Star Wars now. All we need to see next are lumbering World War 2-esque bombers dropping space bombs on a Klingon Bird-of-Prey.
Quote from: Berkut on April 12, 2022, 09:43:03 AMQuote from: celedhring on April 12, 2022, 01:45:23 AMIt's a very nice adventure romp, and the whole "age of sail in space" slow-paced approach to the space battles remains fairly unique in the age of Star Wars.
I totally agree!
I was watching Picard with the GF, and it seems like massive starships turned into fighter planes, with point ahead weapons aimed by aiming the ship, and dodging and weaving constituting "tactics".
As soon as Star Trek went from models to CGI (mid 90s) all their star ship battles went like that. Check out any DS9 space battles.
Anyway, Star Trek II is good and all but Star Trek IV is by far more interesting, more entertaining, and more re-watchable than any of the Star Trek movies. So I would say that as a sequel to the terrible Star Trek III, Star Trek IV: Save the Whales is by far the biggest INCREASE in quality as a sequel.
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 12, 2022, 09:59:40 AMAnyway, Star Trek II is good and all but Star Trek IV is by far more interesting, more entertaining, and more re-watchable than any of the Star Trek movies. So I would say that as a sequel to the terrible Star Trek III, Star Trek IV: Save the Whales is by far the biggest INCREASE in quality as a sequel.
Right in the same series you're missing the HUGE jump from 5 to 6.
ST6: Undiscovered Country has long been my favourite of the original crew movies, and 5 was a hot mess.
Quote from: Barrister on April 12, 2022, 10:03:34 AMQuote from: FunkMonk on April 12, 2022, 09:59:40 AMAnyway, Star Trek II is good and all but Star Trek IV is by far more interesting, more entertaining, and more re-watchable than any of the Star Trek movies. So I would say that as a sequel to the terrible Star Trek III, Star Trek IV: Save the Whales is by far the biggest INCREASE in quality as a sequel.
Right in the same series you're missing the HUGE jump from 5 to 6.
ST6: Undiscovered Country has long been my favourite of the original crew movies, and 5 was a hot mess.
I was tempted to say Star Trek VI because I also absolutely adore that movie but I decided to stick with the movie that came to mind first.
IV and VI are the two Star Trek movies I rewatch most. I usually get bored by II half way through, and the others are very bad or forgettable. I'm including the TNG movies and the new shitty Star Treks too.
I admit to having a huge soft spot for In The Search for Spock. When I was a kid seeing the Enterprise destroyed was a big deal. It's the weakest of the 2-3-4 trilogy (every film leads to the next so nicely, even though they are self-contained), certainly.
6 I haven't watched in a long time.
Quote from: celedhring on April 12, 2022, 10:18:36 AM6 I haven't watched in a long time.
Do yourself a favour some time you're in the mood for 80s-90s sci-fi. The historical parable about the fall of the Berlin Wall aged well. Kirk has a nice character arc about the death of his son and learning to live with Klingons. Sulu is captain of the Excelsior.
That being said - the Star Trek movies don't appear to be on any streaming services I can find! :mad:
Mmmm... looks like I can rent it off Apple TV/Google. Maybe some time if I'm in the mood.
Quote from: celedhring on April 11, 2022, 01:28:17 PMAlso, in snotty film critic circles Alien has a better reputation.
Snotty film critic circles, maybe.
But also, Sigourney in skimpy panties.