:lol: No way in hell. That woman was going down for the count. No faking those movements she did. Seen many people pass out while standing in a formation for example. Lock those knees and you'll hit the ground.
QuoteConspiracy Theory Emerges That Woman Fainting at Obama Speech Was Staged
Newton's third law needs a rewrite: for every action, there is a nutty conspiracy theory saying said action wasn't what you thought it was. Case in point, remember the woman who fainted at President Obama's big speech this week? Well, there is a conspiracy theory going around that the whole thing was... yep, a hoax.
Karmel Allison, a pregnant woman with Type 1 diabetes, fainted and Obama caught her as she collapsed.
Or rather, that's what they WANT you to think. The Weekly Standard flagged a blog post by someone who argued that the incident was not what it seems.
You will see in the following video that the pregnant woman is standing with a friend who is holding her hand with her arm wrapped around her waist. That is until she starts to "faint". Then she steps slightly aside and never even looks at the women she is holding. She smiles a nervous smile for the camera because she has done her part in this extremely poorly orchestrated drama.
Why would they come up with this transparent attempt to manipulate the low information voters? Who knows? Did it make anyone feel warm and fuzzy for our hero President? Probably. There are a lot of idiots out there.
Media Matters chronicled how this has gotten a lot of play on the fringe, and one brief mention on Fox, but it was really pushed into the mainstream thanks to a Facebook post by Sarah Palin.
In the post, Palin says she finds it "hilarious," and while she did not say at any point she believed it was a hoax, she did end up giving it a platform and acknowledged why people would be prone to believing it.
QuoteWith the Obama White House's total lack of transparency, it's no wonder that some will ask whether they staged even a fainting lady in the Rose Garden. What was once a major leap in logic has become a single step because President Obama has lied so often and so blatantly.
I fainted reading your post.
Not sure why you'd want to hoax something that is really kind of an embarrassment. The Daily Show had a funny take on it.
Quote from: derspiess on October 25, 2013, 10:37:34 AM
Not sure why you'd want to hoax something that is really kind of an embarrassment. The Daily Show had a funny take on it.
I don't know why you guys come up with all the conspiracy theories you do either, but there you go.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2013, 12:25:33 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 25, 2013, 10:37:34 AM
Not sure why you'd want to hoax something that is really kind of an embarrassment. The Daily Show had a funny take on it.
I don't know why you guys come up with all the conspiracy theories you do either, but there you go.
Don't do that. Do I do that to you?
The Conspiracy to hide the truth about Benghazi was one you were on for a while.
Not sure I ever referred to that as a conspiracy. That seems to be a term you like to use.
Quote from: derspiess on October 25, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Not sure I ever referred to that as a conspiracy. That seems to be a term you like to use.
No, you didn't refer to it as a conspiracy. People who believe in conspiracy theories frequently don't refer to their beliefs as "conspiracy theories", as it has a negative connotation. For instance Climate change deniers don't normally refer to their beliefs as a conspiracy theory, but that's what it is. For Climate change to be a hoax it requires an international conspiracy of scientists working in tandem to mislead the public.
It has the very negative connotation of being false.
Not every conspiracy is a conspiracy theory. People do in fact, from time to time, conspire.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 25, 2013, 04:00:35 PM
It has the very negative connotation of being false.
Not every conspiracy is a conspiracy theory. People do in fact, from time to time, conspire.
So do you think that the woman fainting in the OP was orchestrated?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 25, 2013, 04:00:35 PM
Not every conspiracy is a conspiracy theory. People do in fact, from time to time, conspire.
Theories aren't ever true? Evolution is out?
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2013, 04:12:25 PM
So do you think that the woman fainting in the OP was orchestrated?
I very much doubt it.
Outta curiosity I did a Google search for the Conspiracies around Obama. Apparently he had a gay lover who he murdered. Or at least that's conspiracy theory. Or perhaps he really did conspire to murder his lover as Yi points out, does happen time to time.
:lol: When did I point out that Obama from time to time conspires to murder his gay lovers?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 25, 2013, 04:24:28 PM
:lol: When did I point out that Obama from time to time conspires to murder his gay lovers?
You didn't you just point out that people do
conspire from time to time.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
You didn't you just point out that people do conspire from time to time.
Re-read what you wrote.
Obama most certainly does not conspire from time to time to murder his gay lovers. There was just the one time, and the others he acted by himself.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 25, 2013, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
You didn't you just point out that people do conspire from time to time.
Re-read what you wrote.
Obama most certainly does not conspire from time to time to murder his gay lovers. There was just the one time, and the others he acted by himself.
:lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 25, 2013, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
You didn't you just point out that people do conspire from time to time.
Re-read what you wrote.
Obama most certainly does not conspire from time to time to murder his gay lovers. There was just the one time, and the others he acted by himself.
I did. It's in the same jumbled English that normally write.
Wow, Obama is not only gay but also a murderer?
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2013, 09:08:29 PM
Wow, Obama is not only gay but also a murderer?
Truly a man with no redeeming qualities.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2013, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2013, 09:08:29 PM
Wow, Obama is not only gay but also a murderer?
Truly a man with no redeeming qualities.
He's very articulate.
That's what they would have you believe. In truth it's the teleprompter.
Quote from: garbon on October 25, 2013, 09:08:29 PM
Wow, Obama is not only gay but also a murderer?
We have no evidence that Obama is gay, just evidence that his lovers were. Also, killing gay people doesn't make him a "murderer."
I am no gay-lover.
As a prosecutor, I can attest to the fact that most conspirators wouldn't understand the concept of a "theory" as a testable, repeatable hypothesis for research if it bit them on the ass.
Quote from: Scipio on October 26, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
As a prosecutor, I can attest to the fact that most conspirators wouldn't understand the concept of a "theory" as a testable, repeatable hypothesis for research if it bit them on the ass.
You're a prosecutor now? What powers does that constitute in Mississippi? Can you swagger around the courtroom with a shotgun?
Quote from: Razgovory on October 26, 2013, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: Scipio on October 26, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
As a prosecutor, I can attest to the fact that most conspirators wouldn't understand the concept of a "theory" as a testable, repeatable hypothesis for research if it bit them on the ass.
You're a prosecutor now? What powers does that constitute in Mississippi? Can you swagger around the courtroom with a shotgun?
For starters, I can be kind to a person from Missouri, which is constitutionally prohibited to everyone else in Mississippi.
As a prosecutor, do you put people that you know are innocent in gaol just because you can?
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
You like a lot of conspiracy theories. People who have a difficult time understanding cause and effect naturally gravitate to them.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 27, 2013, 02:36:10 PM
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
You like a lot of conspiracy theories. People who have a difficult time understanding cause and effect naturally gravitate to them.
Or, in the case of katmai, they gravitate to him.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 27, 2013, 02:36:10 PM
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
You like a lot of conspiracy theories. People who have a difficult time understanding cause and effect naturally gravitate to them.
Cause and effect? What's that?
Quote from: The Brain on October 27, 2013, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 27, 2013, 02:36:10 PM
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
You like a lot of conspiracy theories. People who have a difficult time understanding cause and effect naturally gravitate to them.
Or, in the case of katmai, they gravitate to him.
Katmai have too much mass.
Quote from: Siege on October 28, 2013, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 27, 2013, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 27, 2013, 02:36:10 PM
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
You like a lot of conspiracy theories. People who have a difficult time understanding cause and effect naturally gravitate to them.
Or, in the case of katmai, they gravitate to him.
Katmai have too much mass.
We are the katmai. Resistance is fusball.
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
Makes for good "take a nap on the couch TV". I love crazy hair guy in Ancient Aliens.
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 28, 2013, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
Makes for good "take a nap on the couch TV". I love crazy hair guy in Ancient Aliens.
Me too. It is on all day on the History channel right now.
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
I once watched the Ancient Astronaut show on the History Channel. I felt stupider after having watched it. :(
While watching it a premise for a book came to me. Rival Ancient Astronaut trading houses were working against one in order to dominate their Aztec puppet state and thereby establish a monopoly on the inter-galactic chocolate supply. In the end they're destroyed by their own greed and we learn that we should all share and share alike.
Quote from: Savonarola on October 28, 2013, 02:30:06 PM
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
I once watched the Ancient Astronaut show on the History Channel. I felt stupider after having watched it. :(
While watching it a premise for a book came to me. Rival Ancient Astronaut trading houses were working against one in order to dominate their Aztec puppet state and thereby establish a monopoly on the inter-galactic chocolate supply. In the end they're destroyed by their own greed and we learn that we should all share and share alike.
I was always wondered why Aliens would show up to encourage people to build Pyramids or Stonehenge but fail to impart knowledge like the
wheel to humanity.
Quote from: Siege on October 27, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
I like the Ancient Astronaut conspiracy theory.
:rolleyes: I pass, like night, from sun to sun; I have strange power of sheesh.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 28, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
I was always wondered why Aliens would show up to encourage people to build Pyramids or Stonehenge but fail to impart knowledge like the wheel to humanity.
Those ancient aliens found human beings delicious. Stonehenge, which is a calendar for planting, or Pyramids, which gives one a free granary in every city, increased the population; that way the ancient aliens could eat the surplus. It's a win-win.
I, jokingly, call us a "slurplus".
Quote from: Savonarola on October 28, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 28, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
I was always wondered why Aliens would show up to encourage people to build Pyramids or Stonehenge but fail to impart knowledge like the wheel to humanity.
Those ancient aliens found human beings delicious. Stonehenge, which is a calendar for planting, or Pyramids, which gives one a free granary in every city, increased the population; that way the ancient aliens could eat the surplus. It's a win-win.
You must be living in an alternate reality.
The Pyramids gives you two free workers and 25% increase in the building speed for land improvements.
The Pyramids let you choose any form of government even if you haven't discovered the right tech for it. :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 28, 2013, 11:02:09 PM
The Pyramids let you choose any form of government even if you haven't discovered the right tech for it. :P
Not true. You choose your government indirectly by choosing your policies.
I am now Doge Siege because I have been choosing policies in the Commerce policy tree.