Quote from: HVC on Today at 03:14:18 AMStar Trek beat you, data can't contract wordsTrue. Completely failed to think of him whilst my mind was on super old school vs. super modern stuff.
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 08:21:35 AMMrs. CC and I are travelling at the moment. The local population (Sardinians) are generally fit. A grandmother passed us walking up a steep hill...
But an interesting thing we are noticing about the Northern Europeans we see - the men in my generation have good muscle tone, but a lot of the younger guys are skinning fat. Scrawny arms and pot bellies. Or just plain fat fat.
I wonder if this will be the first generation when the younger men are weaker/less fit than the older generation.
QuoteKeir Starmer sparks Labour anger with decision to admit Natalie Elphicke
MP says many in party think rightwing Tory defector is 'vile', while shadow minister asks: 'Are we welcoming Farage next week?'
Keir Starmer is facing shadow cabinet anger for welcoming into his party a rightwing Conservative MP who has repeatedly attacked Labour over migration.
Natalie Elphicke became on Wednesday the second Tory MP in two weeks to cross the floor of the Commons, dealing another major blow to Rishi Sunak.
Starmer welcomed Elphicke to the Labour party at prime minister's questions and said the Conservatives were "failing to keep our borders safe and secure".
Elphicke quit the Conservatives with a broadside against Sunak, saying that under his leadership the Tories had become "a byword for incompetence and division" and had abandoned the centre ground.
But Starmer's decision to admit her to Labour has been met with bafflement and consternation from his MPs, including some in the shadow cabinet and on the frontbench. MPs and shadow cabinet sources expressed reservations about her past comments and conduct.
Labour sources said Starmer had met a hostile response over the defection at a gathering of the party's parliamentary committee. They said he was challenged about Elphicke's values and whether a rightwinger with her record should be welcome in the Labour party.
One shadow cabinet minister said: "People are upset and angry right across the party about the decision."
Another shadow minister said: "Logically or politically, we didn't need this ... I worry that they'll not have done sufficient due diligence on her." They added: "Her hard-right views are a big red line too. Are we welcoming Nigel Farage next week?"
Welcoming Elphicke to the Labour party at PMQs, the Labour leader asked Sunak: "What is the point of this failed government staggering on ... [when] the Tory MP for Dover, on the frontline of the small boats crisis, says the prime minister cannot be trusted with our borders?"
Conservative MPs were flabbergasted by Elphicke's defection. She had been a member of the rightwing European Research Group of Tory MPs and a vocal proponent for tougher rightwing politics. One minister said her move marked the "new ERG wing of the Labour party".
Critics pointed to Elphicke's comments on migration and strident criticism of Labour's policies. A year ago she wrote an article for the Daily Express calling Starmer "Sir Softie" and accusing Labour of wanting "open borders". She wrote: "Not only have Labour got no plan of their own to tackle illegal immigration, they simply do not want to."
In 2021 she clashed with the England footballer Marcus Rashford, who she said should have spent more time "perfecting his game and less time playing politics" – a reference to his campaign for free school meals – after he missed a penalty at the Euro 2020 final. She later apologised.
One Labour MP said there was significant anger among some women in the party about the decision to admit Elphicke. "Most of us on the backbenches struggle to get any contact at all from the Labour leader or his team – perhaps if we were to stand in front of a few more flags or join the [European Research Group]?"
An MP on the left of the party added: "I think many in the party think it's disgusting, that we don't need people like that in the Labour party, and that she is absolutely vile ... Who in their right mind thought this was helpful?"
A former shadow minister said: "Many of us didn't fight Momentum only to see our leader welcome Reform in the front door."
Another source of controversy is Elphicke's record of defending her former husband, Charlie Elphicke, whom she succeeded as MP for Dover after he was suspended from the Conservative party over sexual assault allegations. He was found guilty two years later.
Shortly after his conviction, his ex-wife defended him in an interview with the Sun, saying he was "attractive, and attracted to, women" and that had made him "an easy target for dirty politics and false allegations".
In the summer of 2021, she became one of several Tory MPs who were given suspensions from the Commons and told to apologise for being found to have tried to influence a judge presiding over his trial.
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Starmer's spokesperson defended the decision to admit her to the party. "It's a sign of the progress that we've made that people recognise that on some of the key challenges facing the country, the Tories have failed," he said.
"Here is someone who is willing to make the significant step of switching across to Keir Starmer's changed Labour party and that's something we're very happy to see."
A Labour source said Elphicke would not be fighting her seat at the next election, and had not been offered a job or a peerage, but could informally advise the party on housing policy. She is understood to have met Starmer once before crossing the floor.
Elphicke is the third former Conservative MP to defect to Labour during this parliament. On 27 April, the former health minister Dan Poulter joined Labour with a swipe at the government's record on the NHS. In January 2022, during Boris Johnson's leadership, the MP for Bury South, Christian Wakeford, defected citing the then prime minister's "disgraceful" conduct.
Quote from: PJL on Today at 07:30:57 AMQuote from: Josquius on Today at 03:07:30 AMQuote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 02:37:23 AMIn a sense it doesn't really matter since we are talking about economics rather than education per se. The point is that foreigners are willing to pay large sums for a British education, it is a profitable export industry that provides many good jobs and we can use the foreign exchange to buy the stuff that we are relatively bad at making.
However the point of education isn't meant to be to make money in itself but to create the conditions (educated workforce, innovation, etc...) by which other segments of the economy can enjoy success.
Fair enough that Britain is doing well selling this 'product' to foreigners. But are we sacrificing our broader economic success and the wellbeing of our people as a result?
Is there so much extra value from all those Chinese students paying big money to get a bit of paper from Teeside University (completely random example name, no comment on its actual quality) to make it worth so many local students paying £9k a year for worthless degrees in finger painting rather than getting polytechnic qualifications that directly set them up for skilled work?
I can easily see Michael Gove and other Tory ministers making the same point you have made, especially the last paragraph.
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 08:49:42 AMQuote from: Tamas on Today at 08:43:05 AMQuote from: crazy canuck on Today at 08:21:35 AMI wonder if this will be the first generation when the younger men are weaker/less fit than the older generation.
Possibly, but one thing I can tell is that your (our) generation will not be the first which will NOT think the next generation is inferior.
Really, in what generation do you think a man about 60 could look at a group of 30 something men and realize he is clearly stronger and in better shape?
Quote from: Razgovory on May 08, 2024, 04:57:18 PMAn article on the chants being used.
Quote from: Zanza on Today at 02:18:26 AMThese stickers are used by service in Germany when they are changing to winter tires to indicate that the tires have more limited performance than summer tires. So you should go no faster than 160kph / 100 mph or 240 kph / 150 mph in winter.
Quote from: clandestino on Today at 08:47:13 AMA few years ago I got really detached of our national league and Sporting as well, the Bruno Carvalho years didn't help.
QuoteIn the meantime my football pains go with Wolves in the Premier League and less with Estrela da Amadora as my local club. Don't care about the 3 big ones anymore.
QuoteSaying that, can't say I'm that sad with PC being retired, and its attack dogs waiting trial in jail.
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 08:43:05 AMQuote from: crazy canuck on Today at 08:21:35 AMI wonder if this will be the first generation when the younger men are weaker/less fit than the older generation.
Possibly, but one thing I can tell is that your (our) generation will not be the first which will NOT think the next generation is inferior.
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 18, 2024, 04:24:24 AMQuote from: viper37 on April 17, 2024, 10:33:28 PMIt's possible.It wasn't Depp v Heard here, but against News Group who I think relied on truth as a defence. Heard gave a witness statement. Also libel cases are now largely heard by a civil judge (like all other civil cases) not juries on a balance of probabilities.
Looking at the trial evidence as reported by the medias, it seems both had a tendency toward abuse to the other. In the end, it was judged defamation that Depp physically mistreated Miss Heard in this trial. In another, he lost.
Different rules, different evidence too, I suppose? I don't really know.
Depp strike me as human wreck, but none of his exes testified he ever was abusive toward them. Usually, such people tend to not limit themselves to one victim. But maybe it did happen as she said.
All of which probably had some impact. I think the gap between a successful truth defence here and, I believe, "actual malice" in the US trial is striking though.
Quote from: HVC on Today at 05:48:25 AMHello stranger
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on Today at 08:25:26 AMObrigado!
Agora que o Sporting é campeão, regressas!
Enfim, parabéns!
Espero que não tenhas muitas saudades do Pinto da Costa.
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