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#11
Off the Record / Re: Elon Musk: Always A Douche
Last post by Zanza - Today at 05:29:49 PMHe has some room to escalate his stock pumping though. By 2030 or so, I expect the promise of a Dyson Sphere.
#12
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Jacob - Today at 05:23:00 PMCan dead people who would've been able to get Canadian citizenship if they were alive under the current legislation be granted Canadian citizenship retroactively?
The "OMG is this for real" reading seems to imply that if anyone of your direct ancestors were Canadians, then each of the descendants gets posthumous citizenship in turn, creating a domino effect of citizenship.
On the other hand when I read the link Grey Fox shared, the requirement seems to be at minimum that you are a grandchild of a Canadian citizen and that your Canadian descended parent spent at least 3 years in Canada. It says nothing about posthumous citizenship being granted to dead non-Canadian citizens if they would've qualified under the current law.
Presumbably if your great-great grandparent was a Canadian and had a child (your great grandparent) that spent at least 3 years in Canada, that great-grandparent could become a citizen now. But if they're dead then they are not and have never been a Canadian citizen, they're never going to be able to apply for citizenship or take the oath - so the chain of citizenship eligibility would seem to end there.
The "OMG is this for real" reading seems to imply that if anyone of your direct ancestors were Canadians, then each of the descendants gets posthumous citizenship in turn, creating a domino effect of citizenship.
On the other hand when I read the link Grey Fox shared, the requirement seems to be at minimum that you are a grandchild of a Canadian citizen and that your Canadian descended parent spent at least 3 years in Canada. It says nothing about posthumous citizenship being granted to dead non-Canadian citizens if they would've qualified under the current law.
Presumbably if your great-great grandparent was a Canadian and had a child (your great grandparent) that spent at least 3 years in Canada, that great-grandparent could become a citizen now. But if they're dead then they are not and have never been a Canadian citizen, they're never going to be able to apply for citizenship or take the oath - so the chain of citizenship eligibility would seem to end there.
#13
Off the Record / Re: Refractory Gauls, or the F...
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 03:56:16 PMNot Jack Lang! 
#14
Off the Record / Re: Aukus
Last post by Threviel - Today at 03:39:35 PMI thought so, they're dumb enough to be US policy, but who knows what the fickle bastards are up to.
#15
Off the Record / Re: The Miscellaneous Sports T...
Last post by Syt - Today at 03:32:11 PMGerman gold in ski jump for Philipp Raimund. Finding it a bit surprising that both he and Max Langenhan who won gold in luge yesterday were singing along to the national anthem during the medal ceremony. Nobody's commenting on it, so I assume it's just a thing now (was not happening 20 years ago IIRC). 
#16
Off the Record / Re: Facebook Follies of Friend...
Last post by Tamas - Today at 03:30:45 PMOne thing in Yi's defense: being the only one here with a Monoriou-esque view on the fascist takeover, he is clearly not in the mood to defend that position against the rest of the forum (ie all four of us). I don't understand nor I have patience for his take on this and similar issues but I do understand the reluctance to spend time arguing with us. So I will oblige him.
#17
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Norgy - Today at 03:05:44 PMI find it strange, weird and disturbing that an elected leader is officially rating half-time shows and officially disparages an athlete from one's own country that has won Olympic gold. Particularly when said elected leader's brain consists of gold and hamberder.
#18
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Grey Fox - Today at 02:53:26 PMSure but the act also adresses the Lost Canadians issue.
https://senate-gro.ca/c3-lost-canadians/
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2025.html
I'm no lawyer & I have to read all this legalese in english but how is this not what we're saying?
QuoteBill C-3 automatically grants citizenship by decent to all those born abroad to a Canadian parent before the coming into force date of the legislation.
https://senate-gro.ca/c3-lost-canadians/
QuoteIf you were born or adopted before December 15, 2025
Citizenship may have been restored or given to people who were born outside Canada in the second generation or later before December 15, 2025.
This means that in most cases you're automatically a Canadian citizen if you were born
before December 15, 2025
outside Canada to a Canadian parent
This rule also applies to you if you were born to someone who became Canadian because of these rule changes.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2025.html
I'm no lawyer & I have to read all this legalese in english but how is this not what we're saying?
#19
Off the Record / Re: Elon Musk: Always A Douche
Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 02:33:23 PMYeah, we talked about it here when he was signing people up to become the first travelers to Mars.
#20
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 02:27:35 PMI have a bit more time to answer why the interpretation Gemini gave is wrong.
The amendment to the Act was to address a constitutional challenge. The problem to be solved was it was found unconstitutional to deny citizenship to subsequent generations also born outside Canada, if their parents were Canadian citizens and had a substantial connection with Canada.
So take a hypothetical - a Canadian couple goes on a trip to another country, and during that trip they give birth to a child. Under the old legislation no problem - that child is deemed a citizen of Canada. But what if, when that child grows up they also go on a trip and have a child while travelling in another country. That child would then be out of luck under the old legislation, and that is the inconsistency the amendment addressed.
The parents have to be Canadian citizens and they have got to have a substantial connection to Canada. There is no reaching back into the mists of time to someone who spent some time in Canada generations ago, and there is no further substantial connection with Canada.
The amendment to the Act was to address a constitutional challenge. The problem to be solved was it was found unconstitutional to deny citizenship to subsequent generations also born outside Canada, if their parents were Canadian citizens and had a substantial connection with Canada.
So take a hypothetical - a Canadian couple goes on a trip to another country, and during that trip they give birth to a child. Under the old legislation no problem - that child is deemed a citizen of Canada. But what if, when that child grows up they also go on a trip and have a child while travelling in another country. That child would then be out of luck under the old legislation, and that is the inconsistency the amendment addressed.
The parents have to be Canadian citizens and they have got to have a substantial connection to Canada. There is no reaching back into the mists of time to someone who spent some time in Canada generations ago, and there is no further substantial connection with Canada.