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#21
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by DontSayBanana - Today at 02:21:41 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 02:05:28 AMGuller did you see the Jersey numbers?
Check out Passaic and Bergen.

Van Drew won comfortably, and that's all you need to know.

Quote from: DGuller on Today at 02:09:55 AMI really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.

The lesson here is people are self-interested scum. I want to move out of Cumberland (Trump country) because the yokels are already so insufferable.
#22
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by jimmy olsen - Today at 02:20:31 AM
Quote from: DGuller on Today at 02:09:55 AMI really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.

I mean, the biggest shift was with hispanic men and Trump is openly saying he's going to round them up into camp and deport them.

Can we really do much when people just willfully vote against their own self interest like that?
#23
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by Tamas - Today at 02:18:26 AM
Quote from: DGuller on Today at 02:09:55 AMI really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.

What the fuck is there to analyse here? How the fuck can you win if what Donald Trump offers is what the American people want? Promise deportations? Collect some felonies?

Dont tell me about economic policies and such, Harris had those while Trump had Almon Palmers or is size. One was largely ignored the other dominated even the leftist media I listen to.
#24
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by DGuller - Today at 02:16:26 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 02:05:28 AMGuller did you see the Jersey numbers?
Check out Passaic and Bergen.
:x Guys, something's wrong here, let's figure out what.  This is scary.
#25
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 02:15:39 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on Today at 02:11:26 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:03:50 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on Today at 02:01:48 AMI think staying put as the institutional guardrails of the USA constitutional order are being dismantled is not a sound strategy.

What is a better one?

Stop being so fucking passive.

Ah, so more protests.
#26
Yi Trump didn't follow any of the rules you are suggesting.  He didn't shut up and didn't moderate, he did the exact opposite. And it didn't stop him him from winning

The democrats aren't going to convince voters they deserve to govern by rolling over and hiding.🫣
#27
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by Oexmelin - Today at 02:11:26 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:03:50 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on Today at 02:01:48 AMI think staying put as the institutional guardrails of the USA constitutional order are being dismantled is not a sound strategy.

What is a better one?

Stop being so fucking passive.
#28
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by Syt - Today at 02:11:07 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:00:04 AM
Quote from: garbon on Today at 01:50:19 AMSo the Dems should give up on being a party? :hmm:

We should act like a party that has lost a crushing electoral defeat fair and square.

Like the GOP in 2020? :P
#29
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by DGuller - Today at 02:09:55 AM
I really hope that Democrat introspection would be an open and honest one, and not a sarcastic one like "we should lie without shame, our women should be back in the kitchen", and so on.

They've lost grip on an important constituency, and clearly they didn't get enough in return.  We may not have too many more free and fair elections, let's try to extract the right lessons this time.
#30
Guller did you see the Jersey numbers?
Check out Passaic and Bergen.