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Off the Record / Re: Facebook Follies of Friend...
Last post by Razgovory - Today at 08:47:21 PM
I found the idea that the original name of Slovakia is "upper Hungary" hilarious.
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Off the Record / Re: Facebook Follies of Friend...
Last post by Valmy - Today at 08:23:47 PM
European countries their names the Romans called them/the English translation of their current name/their current name in their native language/name they were never called.

The Chinese now have a hyperchronic jet.
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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: Barrister on Today at 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 12:51:29 PMSo again, what are the "right schools" what is the "right circles" that underpin your justification for importing the Trumpist terminology of the swamp?

I have interacted with senior politicians and civil servants my whole life (hell I am married to someone who falls within that description).  In my experience most of them, like all Canadians, came from small towns, were educated in a large variety of universities for both their undergrad and post graduate work.

I see no cabal here dwelling in a swamp.

I also note you have moved to the rhetoric of the "elite".  That is at least some progress. You could have doubled down with your use of the word "swamp".  It's better than your attempt to justify your use of Trumpist terminology.


Right schools?

Well Harvard and Oxford seem to come up an awful lot now don't they?  You can certainly add Yale and Cambridge.  Some of the more elite French schools.  In Canada, U of T (and in Quebec - Laval?).

The right circles?  Well - Power Corp / Desmarais family for one.  Not necessarily as a family member, but associating within their empire.  Or Associations with any of the really large corporations really - Rogers family, Weston family.  The CBC and/or Globe and Mail (this category is probably dying off).  And naturally - the Liberal Party itself.

And while Trudeau himself is a pure nepo baby, I agree most of those elites/swamp dwellers weren't born into it, and even see their own circles as being meritocratic.  Many/most of them are in fact quite smart!  Both Freeland and Carney got some level of scholarships to study at Harvard - and just being accepted there is hard.  But they don't realize how narrow the circles they move in are.

For the last time - I do not care if a word or phrase is used by Trump or not.



YOu kow I wondered if there was a list of PMs and the schools they attended - and there is!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Canada_by_academic_degrees

So for starters I think you will notice the obvious difference between Liberal PMs and Conservative ones (other than Mulroney).  And Trudeau Jr is a bit of an outlier.  But here goes:

J Trudeau - McGill/UBC
Harper U of Calgary (x2)
Martin U of T (x2)
Chretien - Seminaire St Marie (?) / Laval
Campbell - UBC (x2)
Mulroney - SFX / Laval (x2)
Turner - UBC / Oxford (x3)
Clark - U of A (x2)
P Trudeau - Montreal / Oxford
Pearson - U of T / Oxford (x2)
Deifenbaker - U of S (x3)
St Laurent - Séminaire Saint-Charles-Borromée (?) / Laval
Mackenzie King - U of T (x3) / Harvard (x2)
Meighen - U of T / Osgoode

(and now we're into the 19th century and lawyers who didn't even have to go to school)

You don't notice a certain pattern when it comes to Liberal leaders?  How many times does U of T / Laval / Harvard / Oxford come up?

BB, I honestly don't follow your argument.  Harvard and Oxford are very rare as schools our politicians and senior civil servants attend. Your list proves the point.

And by the way, Oxford is hardly a sign of being a member of the "swamp".  You might not be aware of this but being a Rhodes Scholar has been a viable way for Canadian kids in smaller communities to get to Oxford.  The criteria are sports, community involvement and to some extent grades. Things small town kids can achieve and even excel at.

 

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Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Tamas - Today at 07:09:32 PM
I am struggling to believe he wouldn't go. His great alliance with Trump is the golden bullet that's been advertised to solve all problems in Hungary this year. His people out more faith in Trump than that insane blond Trumpist woman with the 3 names and I am not even kidding.

EDIT: maybe he didn't want to be sat in the back rows.
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Off the Record / Re: Facebook Follies of Friend...
Last post by Razgovory - Today at 07:04:58 PM

Spot how many things wrong you can find here
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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Grey Fox - Today at 06:41:43 PM
But Smith goes further, she seemed completely enamored with the MAGA crowd. They can do no wrong.
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Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Barrister - Today at 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 05:56:35 PMIs it true that Orban hasn't received an invitation to the inauguration?  :lol:

I'm reading he was invited, but declined to attend.

By the way - countries like Canada, UK or Mexico?  Not invited.

But Milei from Argentina was invited. :lol:
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Orban?  Na bro.
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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Barrister - Today at 06:31:17 PM
Quote from: viper37 on Today at 06:28:31 PMSmith refuses to sign joint statement against US tariffs.

Quote"Until these threats cease, Alberta will not be able to fully support the federal government's plan in dealing with the threatened tariffs," wrote Smith. "We will take whatever actions are needed to protect the livelihoods of Albertans from such destructive federal policies."

"We also urge our entire nation to use this tariff threat as an opportunity to correct the misguided direction of this country and commence multiple infrastructure projects that focus on developing, upgrading and exporting our oil, gas and other natural resources."

Listening to her, the threat comes from the Federal government and not the US.

Now, if only Alberta had used the last decades to diversify its economy, hey?

I forget who said this, but I saw the following analysis:

Not every Canadian Conservative is a Trump supporter.  But every Trump supporter in Canada does support the Conservatives (or in this case, the United Conservatives).  So this explains a fair bit the actions or Smith (and to a lesser extent Poilievre).

The number of Trump supporters in Canada is far from a majority - but is not negligible either.  Even if it doesn't make any sense to me.
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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Barrister - Today at 06:29:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: HVC on Today at 04:37:01 PMThey're protected from domestic competition by allowing them to become monopolies. Every time a company gets big enough to be a threat they buy them. Government puts on a big show of a trial (not proper term, but I forget what it's actually called) to protect customers... and then let's the takeover happen anyway.

And this is corruption?

I believe the term is "regulatory capture".

Again - come on man.  This is nothing crazy - I believe some pretty typical right-wing, free-market talking points here.