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#11
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Jacob - Today at 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 12:08:44 PMThat's only what's reported. Everyone knows the Bear Mafia has you Canadians so scared no one will break omerta and tell the grizzly truth.

Paradoxically all the victims of bear killings are people who spoke about the bear killings. If only no one mentioned the bear killings, the bears wouldn't have to kill anyone....
#12
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Jacob - Today at 12:33:54 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 12:30:07 PMWow, I knew American Jews were backsliding, but I didn't realize things had gotten so bad that 1/4 were attending Church.

 :lol:
#13
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 12:30:07 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2024, 08:09:33 PMFor example weekly service attendance is a big indicator for Jews and Christians at how religious they are. Like 55% of Protestants in the United States attend church once a week or more. 25% of Jews do. 30% of Catholics do.

Wow, I knew American Jews were backsliding, but I didn't realize things had gotten so bad that 1/4 were attending Church.
#14
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by FunkMonk - Today at 12:28:11 PM
Damn, muslins seem terrifying! There should be laws against them
#15
Off the Record / Re: Being a boy in 2024
Last post by viper37 - Today at 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2024, 08:11:48 PMSomething I have been surprised at, looking at my son going through Middle School, current aged 13, is how little actually has changed since I was in his shoes back in 1990. The same kind of stupid shit seems to still be going on.
Yeah, one of my niece is 15.  Same shit as when we were her age.

She has the same temper as her mom, that's worrying her. :ph34r:
#16
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 05, 2024, 10:39:18 PMImams are not the Muslim equivalent of a Priest, they are more like the Muslim equivalent of a Deacon, and aside from Shiites with their Ayatollahs (and I think Shia is only like 10% of Muslims worldwide or something), most Muslim religious leaders are basically just the equivalent of "popular theologians" who gain a following (that often perpetuates after their death.)

Same holds for the Shi'a: Ayatollah is not an official position but a title that a cleric acquires by popular acceptance or general consensus among appears.  It's just that who can claim the honor became politicized after the Revolution.  Technically an Ayatollah is just a very well-respected interpreter of Islamic law.
#17
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by viper37 - Today at 12:17:33 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2024, 08:09:33 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 05, 2024, 07:21:58 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 05, 2024, 11:26:40 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 05, 2024, 10:19:15 AMYou need to have means to get to America frpk house countries, though.

I am not saying the majority of Muslims in Europe want caliphate I am sure they do not. What I am unsure about is how many of them are opposed to the thought enough to work against it, but that part shan't become an issue for many decades.

But I think it's naive to think they or their families have come to Europe because of shared values. I am pretty sure most migrants everywhere are economic ones and they settle in their new countries despite and not because of the cultural differences from their original home.

Koopman's studies point to about 40% to 50% of muslims being fundamentalist.
How many of those live here vs Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey and other shitholes?


In the United States I find Muslims statistics sort of hard to understand because they are compared to Christian and Jewish stats and I don't know if they are comparable.

For example weekly service attendance is a big indicator for Jews and Christians at how religious they are. Like 55% of Protestants in the United States attend church once a week or more. 25% of Jews do. 30% of Catholics do. That is pretty important information to know how religious Protestants are compared to Jews and Catholics. Also how sometimes being a Catholic or a Jew doesn't actually have much to do with actually doing Catholic or Jew religious things but kind of an identity.

Whereas 42% of Muslims attend religious services once a week or more and 30% for Muslims between 18 and 30. Does that mean that Muslims in the United States are less religious than Protestants? That young Muslims are comparable to Jews in how seriously they take practicing the religion? Or does that stat really compare? Are Muslims even expected to go to Mosque once a week like Christians and Jews are? Don't know. Something like 15% of all Muslims have said they have never attended religious services ever. So...does that mean they are not religious at all? Not sure.

Likewise what sort of qualities would a Muslim have to be considered "fundamentalist"?
Muslims are obligated to pray, among other things.  But it may not be done at a Mosque.

What we define as fundamentalist are generally followers of the Wahabist current for Sunni Islam, and those who follow closely the Iranian style of worship for Shia Muslims.

I don't think we could ever agree on a clear set of rules that everyone followes to be a fundie. Same for Christian and Jews.  I guess it's the same for Hindu  or Buddhits fundamentalists/ extremists.
#18
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 12:08:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 11:55:36 AMApparently not 40 deaths - 40 attacks, globally.

In Canada we apparently have averaged about 3 deaths from bears annually in the last decade.

That's only what's reported. Everyone knows the Bear Mafia has you Canadians so scared no one will break omerta and tell the grizzly truth.
#19
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by viper37 - Today at 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 02:00:00 AM
Quote from: viper37 on May 05, 2024, 07:21:58 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 05, 2024, 11:26:40 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 05, 2024, 10:19:15 AMYou need to have means to get to America frpk house countries, though.

I am not saying the majority of Muslims in Europe want caliphate I am sure they do not. What I am unsure about is how many of them are opposed to the thought enough to work against it, but that part shan't become an issue for many decades.

But I think it's naive to think they or their families have come to Europe because of shared values. I am pretty sure most migrants everywhere are economic ones and they settle in their new countries despite and not because of the cultural differences from their original home.

Koopman's studies point to about 40% to 50% of muslims being fundamentalist.
How many of those live here vs Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey and other shitholes?


That's the Muslims in Europe. So even 1 is 1 too many
The only study I found was this one:
https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-030-68127-2_182-1


I can't acess it.

#20
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by HVC - Today at 12:04:00 PM
also, animal vectors seems like cheating :D