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Title: Recommend some guitars
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 23, 2010, 12:30:15 AM
What the title says. I am going to buy an acoustic and an electric. Starting with one or just getting both, I'm not sure. I already have a little Line 6 practice amp to mess around with. I don't mind spending a little more money to get something I'm still going to want to play in a year or two. I also don't want to start a fight with my scrooge wife.  :lol:  Been thinking about scaling back my play money in the stock market though. I don't think she'd care if I shifted some of that into this. Hell, she probably has no idea how much I have in there. So anyway, budget is maybe a grand each, but I'm flexible.

I'm a beginner. Just started taking lessons today, in fact. But I'm a pretty good musician from the olden days--just never this instrument.

So far, I'm looking at maybe a Martin for the acoustic. Don't know what for the electric. I don't want to start a collection. I want something versatile--I have ...eclectic taste in music and I want to be able to play what I want without switching around. My hands are not big, so fat necks and wide fretboards may be problematic for me.

I did the fanboy thing already and looked up what kind of thing my favorite bands use. I don't know how useful that is, frankly. I mean, just because John Petrucci or Alex Lifeson plays it doesn't mean I will like it. Though that Music Man Petrucci guitar is a supreme thing of beauty... Maybe I should just do the obvious thing and get a regular Stratocaster. Anything with Les Paul's name on it seems to have a fat rounded neck--that's the impression I get. True?

I'm not really comfy buying something online without trying it out---but I have noticed a pretty big discount on some models on Amazon compared to Guitar Center. Is trying out the instrument in the store and then ordering online a good strategy, or is quality control not good enough that I'll know what I'm getting that way?

Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 23, 2010, 12:32:52 AM
This can go in OTR. Oops.  :P
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: garbon on March 23, 2010, 12:50:57 AM
I don't play the guitar.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Josquius on March 23, 2010, 05:24:41 AM
Theres always the variax if you're uncertain.
The trouble there though is it needs to be powered, which is annoying.

And yeah, try in the shop then buy online. It will piss the store off, everyone does that, but whatever
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Brazen on March 23, 2010, 09:35:14 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 23, 2010, 05:24:41 AM
And yeah, try in the shop then buy online. It will piss the store off, everyone does that, but whatever
Play "Smoke on the Water" in the shop. They love that.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Caliga on March 23, 2010, 09:50:54 AM
I have an acoustic guitar.  I can't remember the brand but can check when I get home.  It's an antique, I guess, since it dates from the 1940s.  Princesca's grandfather gave it to us for Christmas (he has a collection of instruments).  I taught myself how to play the backbeat you hear on like every Johnny Cash song, but that's it so far.

I had an electric guitar when I was a teenager but my brother stole it from me and I have no idea what make/model it is anymore.  If I ever get another guitar, I'm getting a bass guitar, since everybody else seems to want to play lead guitar, and my goal would be to learn how to play like Steve Harris. :punk:
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Caliga on March 23, 2010, 09:56:37 AM
Oh, we also have a lap dulcimer. :alberta:  I haven't messed with that in a while but I used to say stuff to my dog and then play a few notes afterward, all 'Hee Haw' like.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Caliga on March 23, 2010, 09:59:23 AM
Last post, I promise: If I had the same interests as you seem to, MiM, I would definitely get a Gibson Les Paul. :cool:
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 23, 2010, 12:27:08 PM
Hey, for once, I can chime in as an "expert" and not get ridden. :P

I'd stick with the acoustic until you're a little comfier with things- it's too tempting to "shred" on a fresh electric, and the only thing you end up shredding is your fingertips.  Seriously, though, the action's so light that when starting, you tend not to notice what it's doing to your fingertips until you're wondering why you can't stand touching anything.

Martins: nice sound, but hideously overpriced, almost as bad as Guild.  For my acoustic needs, I use an Aria (Dean's sub-brand) Sandpiper.  It's actually got a nice sound, and came in at a fraction of what the equivalent Martin would have cost.  Epiphone also does some nice acoustics that share some of the warm characteristics that you get from Gibsons.  Takamine/Ovation guitars have a great sound, but personally, I can't stand the feeling of playing a plastic acoustic; YMMV.

Electrics: hold off for now, because there's no really good "all-purpose" electric guitars.  Each is suited to its own particular brand of music.  I use a Schecter Damien 7-string, a Les Paul, a BC Rich Mockingbird, a heavily-modified Stratocaster, and sometimes use Kain's Schecter Scorpion baritone or his Telecaster.  There's very little overlap between play styles on all those guitars: the barry's great for "nu-metal" stuff, the 7-string I use for a lot of prog music where I'd normally have to mess with lots of tunings, the Telecaster's great for putting some blues or surfer twang into music, etc.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 23, 2010, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 23, 2010, 09:59:23 AM
Last post, I promise: If I had the same interests as you seem to, MiM, I would definitely get a Gibson Les Paul. :cool:

I'd learn to play one first.  In high school, I coached some beginners, and the Paulie-players were second only to the SG players in terms of finding out that their fingers weren't up to the stiff string action.  For a "beginner" electric, I'd probably recommend a Strat; it seems cliched, but the floating bridge keeps a light enough action that the unwound strings don't slice right through your fingertips.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: The Brain on March 23, 2010, 01:03:43 PM
Get an axe with some cool art on it.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Josquius on March 23, 2010, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 23, 2010, 12:27:08 PM
Hey, for once, I can chime in as an "expert" and not get ridden. :P

I'd stick with the acoustic until you're a little comfier with things- it's too tempting to "shred" on a fresh electric, and the only thing you end up shredding is your fingertips.  Seriously, though, the action's so light that when starting, you tend not to notice what it's doing to your fingertips until you're wondering why you can't stand touching anything.

Disagree to the extreme.
My parents had this idea with me. It left me with a crappy thing and not caring about learning the guitar for years until I could buy my own electric.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 23, 2010, 01:36:13 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salaomozart.com%2Fstore%2Fimages%2FRazorback-DB.jpg&hash=265ee858d5e0ae29887e7cfb8a748f7549ae9aff)

:punk:
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 23, 2010, 04:31:10 PM
That thing looks like you could hurt yourself with it.  :P




The acoustic I used yesterday in the studio was an Ovation with a curved back made of plastic (or fiberglass or whatever). It was a bit awkward because it kept wanting to slide down into my lap. Sounded fine though.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Barrister on March 23, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 23, 2010, 04:31:10 PM
That thing looks like you could hurt yourself with it.  :P

Now that guitar can be called an axe...
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Ed Anger on March 23, 2010, 04:46:40 PM
Quote from: Brazen on March 23, 2010, 09:35:14 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 23, 2010, 05:24:41 AM
And yeah, try in the shop then buy online. It will piss the store off, everyone does that, but whatever
Play "Smoke on the Water" in the shop. They love that.

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Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 23, 2010, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 23, 2010, 09:59:23 AM
Last post, I promise: If I had the same interests as you seem to, MiM, I would definitely get a Gibson Les Paul. :cool:

I played one of these in the store today. My fears about the neck were unfounded. It had a nice feel. It's more my style than that shredzilla BurgerMaker posted.  :P


Edit: Don't want to wreck my fingers too bad though. We'll see.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Caliga on March 23, 2010, 09:45:38 PM
A friend of mine had a Gibson Les Paul in high school, mainly because he wanted to be Slash (heck, he even looked alot like Slash).  He was pretty damn good, too.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 05, 2010, 04:42:35 AM
Ok, make fun of me.


I bought a Gibson Les Paul Studio Silverburst. It's just so...perfect for me.

http://www.gibson.com/press/custom/product/2007/LP_Custom_Silverburst.jpg

http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/2099628/p1_uftbf4zok_so.jpg

And gorgeous. It will not get much play time while my fingers toughen up. I seriously am in a state where my left hand fingertips are constantly numb right now. Typing feels weird.

I am weak. But! I also spent hours in the humidity room at Guitar Center playing like 30 different instruments. The dude at the store was really big on Taylor Guitars. I dunno. The one I liked best in there was a Martin DC-16 acoustic-electric. The reason: When I hit the fucker, it hit me back. I strike the strings, and the thing hits me in the chest. That's awesome. I actually feel the chord in my guts.


Jesus Christ, I'm spending way too much on this shit.  :lol:



Edit: Also, fuck you. If my wife can spend 30k on a new kitchen, I'll spend whatever I damn well please on this. Don't tell her that I am also a big fan of the new kitchen plans. That might wear away my moral authority on the guitar purchases.   :lol:

Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 05, 2010, 04:50:57 AM
My practice amp:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002GYWBIM/ref=oss_product

I like it, and it only cost me $99.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: Caliga on April 05, 2010, 04:59:36 AM
 :cool: I am: influential.
Title: Re: Recommend some guitars
Post by: The Brain on April 05, 2010, 06:13:31 AM
put your playing on youtube pl0x