I just reviewed a file. Woman is stopped by police on suspicion of an impaired driver. One of the passengers knows she has an outstanding warrant for her arrest, so she lies to police and gives her sister's name.
Little does she know that he sister ALSO has a warrant for her arrest, so they start to arrest her anyways. :lol:
I'll try and remember to add to this thread on occasion...
:lol:
We have had similar idiotic things happen where I work.
A parolee managed to sneak substitute urine past an Officer during a drug test but admitted that it wasn't his urine when it tested positive for heroin (parolee was positive for marijuana).
:lol:
Clearly that poor woman is a victim of over bearing authority figures!!!
I saw a file the other day with a guy being charged for stealing a vehicle from a dealership.
He apparently forgot that he had left his driver's license behind at said dealership though.
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2011, 12:35:18 PM
I just reviewed a file. Woman is stopped by police on suspicion of an impaired driver. One of the passengers knows she has an outstanding warrant for her arrest, so she lies to police and gives her sister's name.
Little does she know that he sister ALSO has a warrant for her arrest, so they start to arrest her anyways. :lol:
I'll try and remember to add to this thread on occasion...
How is that dumb? She would be dumb if she knew that her sister also had a warrant. It sounds like she was simply not sufficiently informed.
Quote from: Strix on April 27, 2011, 01:38:07 PM
We have had similar idiotic things happen where I work.
A parolee managed to sneak substitute urine past an Officer during a drug test but admitted that it wasn't his urine when it tested positive for heroin (parolee was positive for marijuana).
:lol:
"Hold up. You said positive for
what now?!"
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
I saw a file the other day with a guy being charged for stealing a vehicle from a dealership.
He apparently forgot that he had left his driver's license behind at said dealership though.
Steuff like that happens all the time. people signing out employee forms or prize tickets with accurate info while waiting for places to clear out of customers before robbing it are my favourite though.
I'd think that "dumb criminals" is the generality. It is smart criminals who are exceptional. ;)
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 02:47:34 PM
I'd think that "dumb criminals" is the generality. It is smart criminals who are exceptional. ;)
But smart criminals wear suits and call themselves lawyers :(
or alternatively CEO's, but i wnet with lawyers :P
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 02:47:34 PM
I'd think that "dumb criminals" is the generality. It is smart criminals who are exceptional. ;)
This is of course true.
But some crimes are just as anxtra special kind of stupid.
I liked the one where the guy robbed a bank, while wearing his High School jacket with his name on it. :D
Or the people who call the cops because someone cheated them on a drug transaction. Classic! :lol:
Quote from: HVC on April 27, 2011, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 02:47:34 PM
I'd think that "dumb criminals" is the generality. It is smart criminals who are exceptional. ;)
But smart criminals wear suits and call themselves lawyers :(
or alternatively CEO's, but i wnet with lawyers :P
Exactly - smart criminals are those who, like CEOs, bankers, accountants, lawyers, investment consultants and the like, have figured out how to get people to
give them lots of money. :D
Wasn't there a tv show TLC about dumb crimanal activities caught on tv?
Also, does anyone recall when TLC turned from The Learning Channel into the Midget, Babies, and Police footage channel?
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 27, 2011, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 02:47:34 PM
I'd think that "dumb criminals" is the generality. It is smart criminals who are exceptional. ;)
But smart criminals wear suits and call themselves lawyers :(
or alternatively CEO's, but i wnet with lawyers :P
Exactly - smart criminals are those who, like CEOs, bankers, accountants, lawyers, investment consultants and the like, have figured out how to get people to give them lots of money. :D
Yay, accountants! Although, really, as an accountant its hard to steal until you get higher up. Stock options, the legal way to steal from investors :D
Quote from: HVC on April 27, 2011, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 27, 2011, 02:50:30 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 02:47:34 PM
I'd think that "dumb criminals" is the generality. It is smart criminals who are exceptional. ;)
But smart criminals wear suits and call themselves lawyers :(
or alternatively CEO's, but i wnet with lawyers :P
Exactly - smart criminals are those who, like CEOs, bankers, accountants, lawyers, investment consultants and the like, have figured out how to get people to give them lots of money. :D
Yay, accountants! Although, really, as an accountant its hard to steal until you get higher up. Stock options, the legal way to steal from investors :D
:yeahright:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen
Best part of that is the firm disbanded, but the employees just went to work for the other Big $ companies (sometimes whole departments just got hired).
And really, that wasn't just accountants, there were a lot of lawyers involved too. We'll split the infamy :D
Lawyers typically steal in one of two ways - a dumb way, and a not-so-dumb way.
The dumb way is to take money out of client's trust accounts, invest it in high-risk/high reward ways, with the intention of putting the money back later (and pocketing the difference). Pretty well inevitably, these guys get caught.
The not-so-dumb way is to use the confidential info at their disposal to indulge in a bit of insider trading (usually through intermediaries). These guys also get caught, but not as often.
Accoutants steal in several differnt ways :lol:
But the easiest and most legal to make big bucks fast is to mess with stock option. Options open on may 15? leak bad news on the 14th, prices drop. They close two years later on june 15th? hold any good news you have until that day, prices g up. and that's just the easy way. you can also mess with how you report revenue to inflate bonuses. change reporting methods. Fun, legal, stuff like that that most people don't understand so releasing notes in your financial statements mean nothing. people see an increase in income = profit for CEO's with bonuses and options.
:huh:
Engineers don't break the law.
Quote from: HVC on April 27, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
Wasn't there a tv show TLC about dumb crimanal activities caught on tv?
Also, does anyone recall when TLC turned from The Learning Channel into the Midget, Babies, and Police footage channel?
It first became the Home Improvement channel.
Quote from: HVC on April 27, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
Wasn't there a tv show TLC about dumb crimanal activities caught on tv?
Also, does anyone recall when TLC turned from The Learning Channel into the Midget, Babies, and Police footage channel?
It was about four or five years that their older, more interesting programming finally disappeared once and for all, but the trend had been going on for the better part of ten years.
Most white collar criminals I've ever heard about getting caught were typically operating in essentially the stupidest way possible. Blatantly and clearly falsifying financial records, dealing in bald-faced insider trading that was easily linkable back to them having privileged information, etc. The reason so many of them don't get caught, to me, isn't that the ones who don't get caught are smart. I think it's just more likely that this stuff is kind of like driving drunk, you can do it 100 times and you probably will only get caught once (and that I believe is the statistic I always hear, that before someone gets their first DUI they are statistically likely to have actually driven drunk 100+ times.)
Policing everything just isn't an easy task, and they never catch them all.
A few years ago a guy was driving about 80 MPH down the wrong way on the interstate, hit a van and killed an entire family of five. He stumbled out of his truck and wandered off into the woods. He was found by state police and made the claim that his car had been stolen and he hadn't been driving that night (note the wreckage of his vehicle was a no more than a mile away and he was in the middle of the wilderness.)
A guy went to an arcade video game centre, and hid in a cornor when the centre closed for the day. He used tools in an attempt to break the cash register, and failed. When he tried to leave, he found that all exits were locked.
So he called police and claimed that he was a customer who woke up to find himself locked in the place. The police had a look at the cash register and saw through the lie.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on April 27, 2011, 09:10:07 PM
A few years ago a guy was driving about 80 MPH down the wrong way on the interstate, hit a van and killed an entire family of five. He stumbled out of his truck and wandered off into the woods. He was found by state police and made the claim that his car had been stolen and he hadn't been driving that night (note the wreckage of his vehicle was a no more than a mile away and he was in the middle of the wilderness.)
I knew a guy a long time ago who did something like that; he was driving drunk (or under suspension, I forget), cops attempted to pull him over, he ran, ditched the vehicle, ran home, and called and reported his car stolen.
He got away with it, afaik.
He's now dead or in jail, something to do with drug addiction as I understand it.
At least up here it becomes very difficult to prosecute someone for drunk driving if you don't catch them right at the scene. How do you prove someone didn't drink after the accident? You have to prove they were intoxicated at the time of the accident, not at the time of arrest by police.
OvB is back? Cool.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on April 27, 2011, 09:10:07 PM
Most white collar criminals I've ever heard about getting caught were typically operating in essentially the stupidest way possible. Blatantly and clearly falsifying financial records, dealing in bald-faced insider trading that was easily linkable back to them having privileged information, etc. The reason so many of them don't get caught, to me, isn't that the ones who don't get caught are smart. I think it's just more likely that this stuff is kind of like driving drunk, you can do it 100 times and you probably will only get caught once (and that I believe is the statistic I always hear, that before someone gets their first DUI they are statistically likely to have actually driven drunk 100+ times.)
Policing everything just isn't an easy task, and they never catch them all.
There is also this dynamic to it: the white-collar criminals probably take all sorts of time-consuming precautions the first time they commit a crime, and get away with it; but as they get away with it over and over, they get lazy, figuring they will never be caught.
Or they are playing the odds. Like taking cash out of a trust fund - you can do it fifty times and not get caught, but it is sort of inevitable that you will be caught eventually.
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2011, 10:41:49 PM
At least up here it becomes very difficult to prosecute someone for drunk driving if you don't catch them right at the scene. How do you prove someone didn't drink after the accident? You have to prove they were intoxicated at the time of the accident, not at the time of arrest by police.
Yeah, or in an incident like in OvB's story, instead of claiming that his car was stolen, he should have claimed that he was in the car with a friend, and the friend was driving at the time. The police didn't find the friend? To bad he got away, then.
Here's a good one.
Two fellows approach a home one evening. The ring on the doorbell, then try to open the doors and try jiggling the windows to try and find a way in.
They do not realize however that this is "earth hour", or whatever that hippy notion was where you are supposed to turn off all your lights for one hour. The homeowners are home, in the dark, and call police. The two are apprehended minutes later.
So that's both a dumb criminal story and a dumb victim story.
Overheard the following facts in court today on a guilty plea.
Fellow goes to a pawn shop with a tile cutter. Guy at the pawn shop recognizes it as HIS OWN TILE CUTTER, complete with the dust from the tiles he was cutting the day before.
:palmslap:
Quote from: Barrister on August 04, 2011, 04:56:07 PM
Overheard the following facts in court today on a guilty plea.
Fellow goes to a pawn shop with a tile cutter. Guy at the pawn shop recognizes it as HIS OWN TILE CUTTER, complete with the dust from the tiles he was cutting the day before.
:palmslap:
I suppose that happens in small towns.
If I was a criminal, I'd put my exploits on this thread. :)
Quote from: Razgovory on August 04, 2011, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 04, 2011, 04:56:07 PM
Overheard the following facts in court today on a guilty plea.
Fellow goes to a pawn shop with a tile cutter. Guy at the pawn shop recognizes it as HIS OWN TILE CUTTER, complete with the dust from the tiles he was cutting the day before.
:palmslap:
I suppose that happens in small towns.
If I was a criminal, I'd put my exploits on this thread. :)
But it happened in Edmonton. That's what makes it so dumb. There are no end of pawn shops here - why would you pawn an item to the guy you stole it from?
Quote from: Barrister on August 04, 2011, 05:19:47 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 04, 2011, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 04, 2011, 04:56:07 PM
Overheard the following facts in court today on a guilty plea.
Fellow goes to a pawn shop with a tile cutter. Guy at the pawn shop recognizes it as HIS OWN TILE CUTTER, complete with the dust from the tiles he was cutting the day before.
:palmslap:
I suppose that happens in small towns.
If I was a criminal, I'd put my exploits on this thread. :)
But it happened in Edmonton. That's what makes it so dumb. There are no end of pawn shops here - why would you pawn an item to the guy you stole it from?
He must not play Morrowind.
Quote from: Barrister on August 04, 2011, 05:19:47 PM
But it happened in Edmonton. That's what makes it so dumb. There are no end of pawn shops here - why would you pawn an item to the guy you stole it from?
Ah, okay.
This one is a dumb cop story.
Reading from his notes:
Quote[Subject] had seemed reasonable, she was sober and was acting like a responsible mother, I had no idea of the chaos which was to develop in the next few minutes.
:frusty:
They're police notes, not a paperback thriller.
Dear penthouse?
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2012, 04:52:12 PM
This one is a dumb cop story.
Reading from his notes:
Quote[Subject] had seemed reasonable, she was sober and was acting like a responsible mother, I had no idea of the chaos which was to develop in the next few minutes.
:frusty:
They're police notes, not a paperback thriller.
I made it a point to create a sustained, gripping statement of charges, full of flavor and flair. Just for prick ASAs like you.
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2012, 04:52:12 PM
This one is a dumb cop story.
Reading from his notes:
Quote[Subject] had seemed reasonable, she was sober and was acting like a responsible mother, I had no idea of the chaos which was to develop in the next few minutes.
:frusty:
They're police notes, not a paperback thriller.
Reminds me of these reasons for judgment:
QuoteThe Jeep was brought to a stop. Immediately, the respondent emerged from the driver's seat of the Jeep and approached the police car declaring: "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so fucked." As will be seen from our disposition of this appeal, that was a prophetic statement.
:lol:
From Alberta Court of Appeal - 2012 May 4 - R. v. Pelech, 2012 ABCA 134 (CanLII)
I relieved the suspect of the alleged marijuana.
I am so fucking tired of reading that sentence. My personal favorite formulation was "I removed the alleged butcher knife from the victim's chest under the direction of the EMT."
Quote from: Malthus on May 14, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
QuoteThe Jeep was brought to a stop. Immediately, the respondent emerged from the driver's seat of the Jeep and approached the police car declaring: "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so fucked." As will be seen from our disposition of this appeal, that was a prophetic statement.
:lol:
From Alberta Court of Appeal - 2012 May 4 - R. v. Pelech, 2012 ABCA 134 (CanLII)
Now see, that's what I'm talking about. There's nothing that prohibits the criminal justice system from being fun, entertaining and allowing oneself to be be creative, full of life and verve.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 14, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
QuoteThe Jeep was brought to a stop. Immediately, the respondent emerged from the driver's seat of the Jeep and approached the police car declaring: "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so fucked." As will be seen from our disposition of this appeal, that was a prophetic statement.
:lol:
From Alberta Court of Appeal - 2012 May 4 - R. v. Pelech, 2012 ABCA 134 (CanLII)
Now see, that's what I'm talking about. There's nothing that prohibits the criminal justice system from being fun, entertaining and allowing oneself to be be creative, full of life and verve.
The Court of Appeal has the advantage that they can never be cross-examined about what they wrote.
Your average beat cop, however, does not.
I'd stick with "Just the facts, ma'am".
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 03:18:30 PM
Lawyers typically steal in one of two ways - a dumb way, and a not-so-dumb way.
The dumb way is to take money out of client's trust accounts, invest it in high-risk/high reward ways, with the intention of putting the money back later (and pocketing the difference). Pretty well inevitably, these guys get caught.
The not-so-dumb way is to use the confidential info at their disposal to indulge in a bit of insider trading (usually through intermediaries). These guys also get caught, but not as often.
#3: passing personal expenses as corporate expense by disguising the accounting entries. This happens in small firms, when there are no public stock tradings.
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2012, 06:26:34 PM
The Court of Appeal has the advantage that they can never be cross-examined about what they wrote.
Your average beat cop, however, does not.
I'd stick with "Just the facts, ma'am".
Stick in the mud. You read what I wrote into the record, bitch.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2012, 06:26:34 PM
The Court of Appeal has the advantage that they can never be cross-examined about what they wrote.
Your average beat cop, however, does not.
I'd stick with "Just the facts, ma'am".
Stick in the mud. You read what I wrote into the record, bitch.
Only on a typewriter though. Cops that use word processors are fucking n00bs.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 14, 2012, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2012, 06:26:34 PM
The Court of Appeal has the advantage that they can never be cross-examined about what they wrote.
Your average beat cop, however, does not.
I'd stick with "Just the facts, ma'am".
Stick in the mud. You read what I wrote into the record, bitch.
If I have to edit on the fly in court it isn't a good thing.
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2012, 10:22:05 PM
If I have to edit on the fly in court it isn't a good thing.
Down here I don't think you're allowed. :P
Quote from: viper37 on May 14, 2012, 07:03:02 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 27, 2011, 03:18:30 PM
Lawyers typically steal in one of two ways - a dumb way, and a not-so-dumb way.
The dumb way is to take money out of client's trust accounts, invest it in high-risk/high reward ways, with the intention of putting the money back later (and pocketing the difference). Pretty well inevitably, these guys get caught.
The not-so-dumb way is to use the confidential info at their disposal to indulge in a bit of insider trading (usually through intermediaries). These guys also get caught, but not as often.
#3: passing personal expenses as corporate expense by disguising the accounting entries. This happens in small firms, when there are no public stock tradings.
You'd think padding out your expenses would be noticed. Clients these days are very fussy about that sort of thing ...
Quote from: Neil on May 14, 2012, 10:21:03 PM
Only on a typewriter though. Cops that use word processors are fucking n00bs.
I was the last generation to use typewriters (if your handwriting didn't suck, you could use ballpoint pen: medium point, black teh bestest) when we processed arrests directly at the districts; once we when to a Central Booking model, it was a wall of CPUs. Fuck, depending on how easy it was, I'd sometimes have my statement of charges done in the car at the scene and ready to turn in to the turnkey when I got to the station, so I could stop, drop and turn around. Unlike others who would wait until they got to the station so they can bullshit for half the shift. Yay, more work for me on the street.
I didn't have to deal with them long before I left, but man, those booking computers, what an absolute and complete disaster. For a lot of the Dazzling Urbanite officers that grew up in the city, this was their first real exposure to computers, what with their high schools having none. Talk about a logjam. Bad enough you had to drive to Central Booking from whichever district you were working in, processing a prisoner would stretch from less than an hour to however the fuck long you had idiots in front of you; you could be stranded there for hours. That's why I always kept a paperback with me, preserve my sanity.
Of course, these are the same people that had atrocious departmental records wrecking cars left and right, since becoming DaPoPo was the first time they ever got a driver's license. And you give them lights and sirens to boot.
I so don't miss that bullshit.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 15, 2012, 08:14:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 14, 2012, 10:21:03 PM
Only on a typewriter though. Cops that use word processors are fucking n00bs.
I was the last generation to use typewriters (if your handwriting didn't suck, you could use ballpoint pen: medium point, black teh bestest) when we processed arrests directly at the districts; once we when to a Central Booking model, it was a wall of CPUs. Fuck, depending on how easy it was, I'd sometimes have my statement of charges done in the car at the scene and ready to turn in to the turnkey when I got to the station, so I could stop, drop and turn around. Unlike others who would wait until they got to the station so they can bullshit for half the shift. Yay, more work for me on the street.
I didn't have to deal with them long before I left, but man, those booking computers, what an absolute and complete disaster. For a lot of the Dazzling Urbanite officers that grew up in the city, this was their first real exposure to computers, what with their high schools having none. Talk about a logjam. Bad enough you had to drive to Central Booking from whichever district you were working in, processing a prisoner would stretch from less than an hour to however the fuck long you had idiots in front of you; you could be stranded there for hours. That's why I always kept a paperback with me, preserve my sanity.
Of course, these are the same people that had atrocious departmental records wrecking cars left and right, since becoming DaPoPo was the first time they ever got a driver's license. And you give them lights and sirens to boot.
I so don't miss that bullshit.
Things are, of course, a lot different now. All records stored on a central computer. A computer in most, if not every, PC. A smart constable can have everything typed up by the time they get to the station.
That being said that also means much, much more paper is generated - mostly useless. And even though everything for the police is computerized, you just know that everything has to be physically printed out, handed over to us, where we then scan it in again. :rolleyes:
Sometimes up north (where they do have everything computerized as well) you would occasionally see it done old-school - nothing but handwritten notes, handwritten witness statements, and a short, typed Prosecutor's Information Sheet. In it's favour it does make for a very short and concise file. :hmm:
and now I'm just rambling...
Police have even deliberately taken some steps back in time. For a while witness statements were all being audio-recorded - sure does make it fast on the scene - just pull out your cheapo digital recorded. But guess what - it's a PITA to get copies made for us, and to give to defence, and suddenly judges want a transript to boot. So now, unless it's a homicide it seems, everything is back to handwritten witness statements.
Quote from: Malthus on May 15, 2012, 07:57:48 AM
You'd think padding out your expenses would be noticed. Clients these days are very fussy about that sort of thing ...
I was talking about an accountant defrauding his company, not a company defrauding its clients. That only happens on government contract with the complicity of the engineers and the bureaucrats in charge of the project ;)
You often hear stories about an accountant who defrauded a company either by directly stealing money from the account or passing personal expenses as companies expenses. There are SMBs owners who barely check their books. Some seem to have a weird and total trust in their accountant, giving them the "keys" for everything.
Quote from: viper37 on May 15, 2012, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 15, 2012, 07:57:48 AM
You'd think padding out your expenses would be noticed. Clients these days are very fussy about that sort of thing ...
I was talking about an accountant defrauding his company, not a company defrauding its clients. That only happens on government contract with the complicity of the engineers and the bureaucrats in charge of the project ;)
You often hear stories about an accountant who defrauded a company either by directly stealing money from the account or passing personal expenses as companies expenses. There are SMBs owners who barely check their books.
The big sophisticated frauds are handled by specialized prosecutors, but I do see some of the more ordinary employee frauds. Adn typically they could have been discovered and prevented by even just a tiny bit of oversight. Instead a small business hires someone to, say, do the books and then places complete and utter trust in that person.
Quote from: viper37 on May 15, 2012, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 15, 2012, 07:57:48 AM
You'd think padding out your expenses would be noticed. Clients these days are very fussy about that sort of thing ...
I was talking about an accountant defrauding his company, not a company defrauding its clients. That only happens on government contract with the complicity of the engineers and the bureaucrats in charge of the project ;)
You often hear stories about an accountant who defrauded a company either by directly stealing money from the account or passing personal expenses as companies expenses. There are SMBs owners who barely check their books. Some seem to have a weird and total trust in their accountant, giving them the "keys" for everything.
Ah, I was specifically thinking about lawyers and their clients.
I have some good "war stories" about defrauding book-keepers, but unfortunately cannot give details - one in particular is a cautionary tale about lawyers trusting their own client's version of events ...
Quote from: Malthus on May 15, 2012, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 15, 2012, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 15, 2012, 07:57:48 AM
You'd think padding out your expenses would be noticed. Clients these days are very fussy about that sort of thing ...
I was talking about an accountant defrauding his company, not a company defrauding its clients. That only happens on government contract with the complicity of the engineers and the bureaucrats in charge of the project ;)
You often hear stories about an accountant who defrauded a company either by directly stealing money from the account or passing personal expenses as companies expenses. There are SMBs owners who barely check their books. Some seem to have a weird and total trust in their accountant, giving them the "keys" for everything.
Ah, I was specifically thinking about lawyers and their clients.
I have some good "war stories" about defrauding book-keepers, but unfortunately cannot give details - one in particular is a cautionary tale about lawyers trusting their own client's version of events ...
I guess this could count as a "dumb criminal story".
Woman in another jurisdiction is being prosecuted for Fraud Over $5000. She tells her lawyer she wants to go to her sister's wedding in the Caribbean - but she had to surrender her passport to the Courthouse. The Crown says "give me some proof", so client gives to lawyer to give to Crown an itinerary. The Crown says "give me proof its for a wedding, not just a holiday" so client gives to lawyer to give to Crown a letter from the sister, and a copy of a wedding invitation. The Crown is still suspicious so asks police to investigate. They look on Facebook and find out that the sister just GOT married, and to a completely different person than the letter and invitation said. Copy of the marriage confirms the Facebook.
So lawyer didn't do anything wrong, but is now going to be forced to testify against her former client - something no defence lawyer ever wants to do - on a charge of obstructing justice.
And you know what? I give her better than 50/50 odds that if she said "I want to go on a holiday" that a judge would have let her. :lol:
Quote from: Barrister on May 15, 2012, 04:16:12 PM
I guess this could count as a "dumb criminal story".
Woman in another jurisdiction is being prosecuted for Fraud Over $5000. She tells her lawyer she wants to go to her sister's wedding in the Caribbean - but she had to surrender her passport to the Courthouse. The Crown says "give me some proof", so client gives to lawyer to give to Crown an itinerary. The Crown says "give me proof its for a wedding, not just a holiday" so client gives to lawyer to give to Crown a letter from the sister, and a copy of a wedding invitation. The Crown is still suspicious so asks police to investigate. They look on Facebook and find out that the sister just GOT married, and to a completely different person than the letter and invitation said. Copy of the marriage confirms the Facebook.
So lawyer didn't do anything wrong, but is now going to be forced to testify against her former client - something no defence lawyer ever wants to do - on a charge of obstructing justice.
And you know what? I give her better than 50/50 odds that if she said "I want to go on a holiday" that a judge would have let her. :lol:
Ouch. :lol:
Quote from: viper37 on May 15, 2012, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 15, 2012, 07:57:48 AM
You'd think padding out your expenses would be noticed. Clients these days are very fussy about that sort of thing ...
I was talking about an accountant defrauding his company, not a company defrauding its clients. That only happens on government contract with the complicity of the engineers and the bureaucrats in charge of the project ;)
You often hear stories about an accountant who defrauded a company either by directly stealing money from the account or passing personal expenses as companies expenses. There are SMBs owners who barely check their books. Some seem to have a weird and total trust in their accountant, giving them the "keys" for everything.
:shifty:
Quote from: Barrister on May 15, 2012, 03:48:17 PM
Adn typically they could have been discovered and prevented by even just a tiny bit of oversight. Instead a small business hires someone to, say, do the books and then places complete and utter trust in that person.
yes :) exactly what I'm talking about :)
I don't know if if fits dumb criminal behavior. It certainly looks dumb to me, though the story is far different from what we imagined at first.
A former judge (Quebec's court of Appeal, retired a few months ago) is on trial for murdering his wife.
His wife suffered a stroke a couple of years ago and was left paralysed from the right side.
Most people (yeah, me too) assumed it was some form of "compassionate" murder.
But he pleaded not guilty. He claims she committed suicide herself.
But then, there are the evidences stacking against him:
- he had a mistress, his secretary.
- ballistic is clear: the gun was not fired from the left hand, there is a powder burn on the left hand, wich means she had her left hand close to the barrel. She had her entire right side paralized...
- the gun has been wiped clean: no blood, no prints. the victim wasn't wearing clothes. the gun was found near her left hand.
- the way she was positionned, she would have had to walk over there, without any help, very difficult for someone half paralized.
It's all these things that, imho, makes him a dumb criminal. He's a judge, from the Court of Appeal, it can't be he never presided a murder trial in his career. He has got to know they will find wich hand was used during the post-mortem inspection. And wiping the gun clean, I mean, how do you kill yourself while not leaving fingerprints or blood on your gun?
Is there something that makes you stupid when you become a criminal or is my view tainted by the "super criminals" of tv/movies?
As a court of appeal justice he may well have never sat in on a murder trial.
But the police sure as hell better have more evidence than what you posted. Motive doesn't mean he did it, and all the forensic evidence you listed merely shows it wasn't suicide - not who did it.
Quote from: Barrister on May 16, 2012, 01:45:34 PM
As a court of appeal justice he may well have never sat in on a murder trial.
I figured he was in another court before.
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But the police sure as hell better have more evidence than what you posted. Motive doesn't mean he did it, and all the forensic evidence you listed merely shows it wasn't suicide - not who did it.
trial isn't over yet. there are other details I skipped, like the code-locked door to his house. There's no sign of forced entry, apparently.
Here's one article on this story:
http://www.globalmontreal.com/6442640500/story.html (http://www.globalmontreal.com/6442640500/story.html)
So, ok, maybe only the part about claiming (911 call) he found his wife who had just killed herself was dumb, not the actual crime.
Trying to understand a court case based on newspaper accounts is so frustrating.
I'm surprised the evidence of him having a mistress would be allowed in. Surely that counts as "character evidence".
And I still don't see any evidence linking him to the killing.
Quote from: Barrister on May 16, 2012, 02:43:27 PM
Trying to understand a court case based on newspaper accounts is so frustrating.
Yes, it can be. The case is interesting to French medias, so we get more details and daily reports, but the english text on the subject are not as detailed.
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I'm surprised the evidence of him having a mistress would be allowed in. Surely that counts as "character evidence".
It goes to motive. The Crown's theory is that he killed his wife to live with his mistress.
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And I still don't see any evidence linking him to the killing.
not like the thief they found thanks to his USB key left on the scene with his backpack... but, there's a lot of small details that sure rule out a suicide and make it near impossible for some stranger to come in the house and shoot his wife. It would have to be someone she knew and who knew the code to the entrance.
There is only circumstencial evidence.
Guilty of 1st degree murder.
BB, do you have stats on how many murder cases in Canada are based on circumstancial evidence rather than other more definite proofs?
Quote from: viper37 on June 14, 2012, 02:02:12 PM
Guilty of 1st degree murder.
BB, do you have stats on how many murder cases in Canada are based on circumstancial evidence rather than other more definite proofs?
Cases as in charges before the court, or cases as in matters brought to trial. Because I can tell you the cases where we have really definite proofs tend not to go to trial. :lol:
Quote from: Barrister on June 14, 2012, 02:08:06 PM
Cases as in charges before the court, or cases as in matters brought to trial. Because I can tell you the cases where we have really definite proofs tend not to go to trial. :lol:
that last part, I kinda got it figured for myself ;)
I meant cases as in matters brought to trial, where there's a not-guilty plea entered.
I figure that in cases of really definite, you (as in Crown Prosecutors) tend to plea bargain (a little) to save some time and file the case?
Quote from: viper37 on June 14, 2012, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 14, 2012, 02:08:06 PM
Cases as in charges before the court, or cases as in matters brought to trial. Because I can tell you the cases where we have really definite proofs tend not to go to trial. :lol:
that last part, I kinda got it figured for myself ;)
I meant cases as in matters brought to trial, where there's a not-guilty plea entered.
I figure that in cases of really definite, you (as in Crown Prosecutors) tend to plea bargain (a little) to save some time and file the case?
Not so much on homicides. They are high profile (and the media loves to criticize). There's not a lot we can compromise on. 1st degree murder is an automatic life / no parole 25 years, while 2nd is life / no parole 10 years. If we drop it to manslaughter though there's no minimum however, so we almost never agree to do that.
Homicides we tend to go to trial much more often than other files (unless we have such a good case they plead guilty). They do tend to rely more on circumstantial evidence though because the nature of the charge - the victim can't tell us what happened. :)
I just saw a file where a guy shoplifted a vibrator. :frusty:
Dude calls up his ex-girlfriend on her phone. After a few minutes, the new boyfriend Douchebag gets on the phone and tells Dude to never call this number or else he'll come over and kick his ass. Dude says go ahead, so Douchebag drives over and calls to say he's outside.
Dude comes down to the front of his apartment, sees Douchebag holding a golf club. Dude says "I don't have any weapons" and lifts his shirt to demonstrate that. At that point Dude gets clocked by Dbag's friend who was hiding around the corner. Dude turns around to see who hit him, and Dbag unloads with the golf club. After a few good whacks Dude is leaking pretty good, girlfriend comes out and escorts Dbag away.
Dude calls police, says what happened. Dude also requires an arm brace and five staples to the back of his head.
Police call up Dbag (and here's the extra-stupid part). Dbag doesn't believe that it's the police, but amidst his swearing and cursing agrees to meet them at a nearby movie theatre. Dbag shows up. POlice call him again, and he's taunt them saying "I knew you were a fucking liar... oh shit you really are the police" *click*
What happened next? Did the Canadian cops lift up their shirts and showed the Douchebag that they had no weapons?
Guy is pulled over for drunk driving, blows a fail, and is arrested and taken to the station. Before leaving his vehicle he asks police to please take his backpack from the trunk of his car. Police oblige.
Back at the station police note a strong odour of marijuana coming from the bag. They look inside, and find not only some fresh pot, but several thousand dollars worth of powder cocaine.
Police on a simple drunk driving would never have even looked in the trunk if the guy hadn't asked them to... :lol:
At least his drugs didnt get stolen.
I think Peaches Geldof might be an entrant in this category soon, guilty of aggravated twitter-potty-mouth.
Not my file, just saw this in the paper:
QuoteEdmonton man charged after allegedly printing child porn at grocery store
EDMONTON JOURNAL NOVEMBER 29, 2013 11:00 AM
EDMONTON - The Alberta Law Enforcement Response Teams has charged a 33-year-old Edmonton man after child pornography was printed at a local grocery store's photo kiosk.
ALERT's Northern Alberta Internet Child Exploitation (ICE) Unit began to investigate when a store employee serviced the photo kiosk machine and discovered explicit material.
Investigators used store video surveillance to identify the man and execute a search warrant at his home, where they recovered additional child pornography images, DVDs, videotapes and electronic devices.
"It is particularly disturbing that members of the public and store employees would be exposed to this horrific offence," Det. Brian Cross, an Edmonton Police Service member with the ICE Unit, said Friday in a news release.
Bradley Lenz was arrested at his home Wednesday and charged with possession of child pornography and accessing child pornography.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Edmonton+charged+after+allegedly+printing+child+porn/9228362/story.html
Seriously? Why would anyone want to print out porn with grocery store quality printers?
Bob and Doug McKenzie at it again:
Quote'Stupidity ran deep' during 'stab-proof' vest demonstration
Edmonton man gets six months in jail for nearly killing friend
EDMONTON - A young Edmonton man who grievously wounded his friend while testing a supposedly "stab-proof" vest was sentenced to six months in jail Tuesday.
Court heard that Justin Harder, 18, was bragging to his friend Calvin Wesley Clackson, 21 about a "stab-proof" vest he'd just acquired as they hung out in an apartment suite at 106th Avenue and 116th Street, Crown prosecutor Mark Huyser-Wierenga told court.
Harder was so confident in the vest that night in October 2012 that he believed it would deflect any attack with a knife. Harder eagerly invited his friend to stab him in the chest to prove the vest worked.
"Mr. Clackson foolishly obliged him," Huyser-Wierenga said.
According to the agreed statement of facts, Clackson stabbed at his friend with a folding knife. The blade tore through the vest and plunged into Harder's chest near his heart.
When Clackson withdrew the blade and saw "blood spurting all over the place," he fled the apartment.
Harder was seriously injured and only survived because of emergency surgery that night, court heard.
"It was a non-stab-proof vest, if you can call it that," Huyser-Wierenga said.
Provincial court Judge Michael Allen sentenced Clackson to twice what the prosecution had argued for.
"This was a pretty serious incident, even though the victim was incredibly stupid, to put it politely," the judge told court. "It was foolish of the friend to give the invitation, but it was criminally negligent for Mr. Clackson to take up the invitation. Stabbing a person in the heart area, irrespective of a vest or not, is a dangerous activity."
Allen called the six-month sentence "extremely charitable" and gave Clackson credit for an early guilty plea and a harsh upbringing in Edmonton.
At the time of the incident, police said the vest was made from steel plates and mesh.
Clackson pleaded guilty to one count of criminal negligence causing bodily harm.
Defence lawyer Akram Attia told court that Clackson and Harder were "very close friends" and the stabbing was purely inadvertent. "There was absolutely no intention to cause harm. Stupidity ran deep that night."
Court heard that Harder was not co-operative with investigators after his recovery.
On Tuesday, Clackson also pleaded guilty to breaching numerous court orders and trying to cash a stolen cheque. The night he stabbed Harder, Clackson was on a court-ordered curfew and a no-contact order with his girlfriend, who witnessed the stabbing.
In the past two years, Clackson has been convicted of assault, mischief, drug possession and drug trafficking.
After credit for time served, Clackson has two months left to serve of the six-month sentence.
How'd you find that one? :lol:
Quote from: Barrister on December 06, 2013, 10:40:17 AM
How'd you find that one? :lol:
Dave Barry's blog linked through the Miami Herald.
Quote from: Savonarola on December 06, 2013, 10:37:49 AM
"There was absolutely no intention to cause harm. Stupidity ran deep that night."
What a great line.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 06, 2013, 10:57:38 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on December 06, 2013, 10:37:49 AM
"There was absolutely no intention to cause harm. Stupidity ran deep that night."
What a great line.
Akram's a pretty funny guy. :)
You guys hate science and the experimental method, I see. :P
QuoteHuyser-Wierenga
Is he a futuristic megacorp?
Quote from: The Brain on December 06, 2013, 01:09:34 PM
QuoteHuyser-Wierenga
Is he a futuristic megacorp?
*check's MHW's office*
Nope.
:(
:pinch:
QuotePolice: Oklahoma man, 33, killed stepfather with 'atomic wedgie'
MCLOUD, OKLA. — A 33-year-old man in Oklahoma allegedly killed his stepfather after a fight over the holidays by yanking underwear up the stepfather's back and over his head so that the waistband was around his neck, authorities said.
Records show Brad Davis, of McLoud, was arrested Tuesday and booked into the Pottawatomie County jail on a first-degree murder complaint for the death of his stepfather, Denver St. Clair.
Formal charges haven't been filed and there was no immediate listing in jail records for an attorney for Davis.
A phone message seeking comment with the sheriff's office was not returned Tuesday. No hearing has been scheduled.
A 10-page affidavit describes a fight that broke out Dec. 21 between Davis and St. Clair.
Davis told police in the affidavit that St. Clair tackled Davis into the kitchen area. Then, St. Clair hit Davis in the face several times before he could make it back to his feet, Davis told investigators.
Davis told police that he pulled St. Clair's underwear up over St. Clair's head, and later noticed that St. Clair was unconscious and called the police.
The state's medical examiner said Wednesday that St. Clair's cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head or asphyxia.
It's all fun and games until someone gets strangled by their own underwear. :(
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QuoteHUMBLE, Texas—A man arrested outside a bar in Humble early Thursday had so much to drink, police had to actually hold his head up just to snap his mug shot. Sean Carl Payne, 35, was charged with public intoxication. Humble police arrested Payne outside Shamrock's Bar and when they got him to jail, he was so drunk he had to have assistance being booked in.Police had to hold Payne's head steady just so they could take his picture.
Here's one from Salzburg, Austria:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-asks-police-if-theyre-looking-for-him-gets-arrested/
QuoteVIENNA - A German man wanted by authorities in Austria for alleged fraud ambled into a police station in Salzburg, where he asked officers a question; basically....am I under investigation?
Naturally, the police checked their files - whereupon they found their answer - yes, sir, you are under investigation - and now he's also under arrest.
Police said the 59-year-old suspect walked into the police station Friday night. A spokesman told the Austria Press Agency that the man said he just wanted to check that authorities had "nothing on him."
Instead, officers found a recent arrest warrant from a Vienna court listing four counts of fraud and embezzlement.The man is being held in a Salzburg prison.
Any more questions?
Subject is attending a doctor's office with his son in order to help determine his parental suitability.
During the visit the doctor notices her iPhone has been stolen. Sure enough, subject has it (together with an imitation firearm).
I suspect I know what the result of that assessment was. :thumbsdown:
A quote from a pre-sentence report I'm reading.
"The subject states he has been dating his current wife, <name redacted> for approximately two years, but they have known each other since they were children. He reports they reconnected after she "saw him on the most wanted list in the paper" and contacted him on Facebook."
:frusty:
What a sweet story :wub:
:P
You can not stop love BB! :D
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2015, 10:23:02 AM
A quote from a pre-sentence report I'm reading.
"The subject states he has been dating his current wife, <name redacted> for approximately two years, but they have known each other since they were children. He reports they reconnected after she "saw him on the most wanted list in the paper" and contacted him on Facebook."
:frusty:
The movie of the week taglines write themselves. ;)
"He was Most Wanted ... for love!"
Quote
Man who fled Edmonton officers in stolen police car during 'ridiculous' crime gets two years
By Ryan Cormier, Edmonton Journal June 25, 2015 12:52 PM
EDMONTON - A Calgary man who stole an Edmonton Police Service vehicle, then led officers on a high-speed chase, crashed into a tree and fought a police dog was given a two-year prison sentence Thursday.
Ian Trevor Ball, 27, was high on methamphetamines at the time, court heard as Ball pleaded guilty to six charges.
"These allegations are ridiculous," Crown prosecutor K.C. Komosky told court. "This was a criminal pursuit in a stolen police car."
On the morning of Oct. 30, 2014, police arrived at the parking lot of Century Motors, near 113th Street and 132nd Avenue, after a person reported a man with a gun. Ball, who did not have a gun, ducked between two vehicles when a police canine unit arrived.
The officer ordered Ball to show himself.
"The accused then stood up from behind a parked car and was holding a piece of 2x4 lumber in each hand," Komosky told court. Ball didn't appear to recognize the officer as a policeman, he added.
Ball dropped his lumber and bolted toward the unmarked police car, slamming the door moments before police dog Xieko reached him. When the officer opened the door, Ball kicked him in the chest and sped out of the parking lot in the unmarked Chevy Tahoe.
Ball led several police cruisers on a pursuit along 132nd Avenue, speeding at 90 km/h in a 50-km/h zone.
Ball sped through three red lights and drove in and out of oncoming traffic during the pursuit. After leading officers into a residential area, Ball lost control of the vehicle, skidded across oncoming traffic lanes, bounced off one spruce tree and slammed into a second.
Police service dog Maverick bit Ball on the shoulder as he fled the crashed police vehicle. Ball struggled with the German shepherd, slamming the dog into the side of the police vehicle. It took six officers to bring Ball under control and arrest him.
At the Royal Alexandra Hospital, Ball admitted he was high on methamphetamines.
"He's very regretful for what happened that day," defence lawyer John Poirier said of Ball, a married father with two young children. "He recalls very little of it."
Ball wrote apology letters to both the police and Royal Alexandra Hospital staff, court heard.
"I'd like to apologize for my crude behaviour," he wrote.
Ball pleaded guilty to possession of a weapon, assault of a peace officer, theft of a vehicle, failure to stop for police, dangerous driving and resisting arrest.
After his two-year sentence is complete, Ball will be banned from driving for three years.
He must also pay $39,845 in restitution to the City of Edmonton for damages to the $60,000 vehicle.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/edmonton/fled+Edmonton+officers+stolen+police+during+ridiculous/11166299/story.html
Not at all a red flag:
QuoteStevenson was living with his wife and young children when he met a 15-year-old Oregon girl in an online chatroom in 2012, according to the release. Over the next two years, he had her send pornographic pictures of herself to his e-mail "[email protected]," according to court records.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/2015/06/30/ryan-an-stevenson-sexslavetrainer-sentencing/29509243/ (http://www.freep.com/story/news/2015/06/30/ryan-an-stevenson-sexslavetrainer-sentencing/29509243/)
It sounds like that gmail address will be opening up soon, if anyone is interested. :)
It seems that occasionally people in Germany try to get out of a pickle by claiming they don't recognize the Federal Republic of Germany as the rightful authority in Germany, and that the current country was founded illegally on the (partial) territory of the Germany Reich.
So with a man who refused to pay his car taxes. When executory officers showed up at his home to either take the cash or impound items that could be turned into cash he filed a criminal complaint with the state prosecutors (of the country he doesn't recognize :rolleyes: ) claiming that the officers were impersonating officials of a country that doesn't exist and were therefore acting illegally.
The office quickly wrote him back that they would not prosecute, with the usual formulaic text that he could file an objection with the prosecution, but adding that that alternatively he could petition the King of Prussia. :lol:
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He stands ready to serve his subjects.
QuoteImpaired Zamboni Driver To Be Charged
Category: Local News
Published: Monday, 21 December 2015 10:57
Written by Tammy Plett
Referees contemplate calling the game after the Zamboni incident.
Police were called to the Ste. Anne arena after spectators noticed a worker driving the Zamboni erratically during a hockey game.
The ice resurfacing machine struck the rink boards, missed sections and dug grooves into the ice. According to police, the operator was uncooperative during arrest at the arena.
The incident happened between the second and third periods of the bantam hockey game between the Seine River Snipers and the Southeast Blizzard. The game was called due to the rough ice conditions with the third period being played Monday night in Ste. Anne.
Ste. Anne Police Chief Marc Robichaud says, "You don't have to be driving on a road to be charged with impaired driving. Under the criminal code a motor vehicle means a vehicle that is drawn, propelled or driven by any means other than muscular power."
Ste. Anne police report that the driver will be charged with impaired driving and refusing to provide a breath sample in relation to the operation of a Zamboni.
http://www.steinbachonline.com/local/impaired-zamboni-driver-charged
:Canuck:
Just reading through a file. Pretty routine drunk driving file. Suspect is a Chinese student, been in Canada 4 years. POlice pull him over and have lots of interactions with him in English. Once he fails the screening test though and the officer goes to arrest him, the student starts in on the "I don't understand english" line.
No problem - the officer has a civillian police employee along for a ride-along who speaks Mandarin. :lol:
The rest of the interactions were, of course, in English.
And what's wrong with you people - the drunk zamboni driver story directly above is gold!
Sorry I missed it. DWI on a Zamboni is the most Canadian thing ever.
Quote from: Barrister on January 04, 2016, 04:24:47 PM
And what's wrong with you people - the drunk zamboni driver story directly above is gold!
I was away at the time!
It is gold, but not unusual, unfortunately.
Just reading a file. A drunk wanders in off the street into an ongoing Taekwondo class and starts challenging one of the participants to a fight. :frusty:
I thought it was going to get really entertaining as the guy gets his ass kicked, but no they were more responsible and gave him the bum's rush out the door.
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2016, 05:30:35 PM
Just reading a file. A drunk wanders in off the street into an ongoing Taekwondo class and starts challenging one of the participants to a fight. :frusty:
I thought it was going to get really entertaining as the guy gets his ass kicked, but no they were more responsible and gave him the bum's rush out the door.
Who got charged?
Quote from: Malthus on January 25, 2016, 05:34:17 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2016, 05:30:35 PM
Just reading a file. A drunk wanders in off the street into an ongoing Taekwondo class and starts challenging one of the participants to a fight. :frusty:
I thought it was going to get really entertaining as the guy gets his ass kicked, but no they were more responsible and gave him the bum's rush out the door.
Who got charged?
The students, for failing to provide a sufficiently entertaining episode for the chief prosecutor.
Quote from: Malthus on January 25, 2016, 05:34:17 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 25, 2016, 05:30:35 PM
Just reading a file. A drunk wanders in off the street into an ongoing Taekwondo class and starts challenging one of the participants to a fight. :frusty:
I thought it was going to get really entertaining as the guy gets his ass kicked, but no they were more responsible and gave him the bum's rush out the door.
Who got charged?
The bum agrees to leave, then goes to shake the fellow's hand. When he does he does a twist and tries to take the taekwondoe guy down to the ground. He fails.
He's charged simple assault and cause a disturbance in public.
Well I guess prosecutors have to do something in the down time between covering up for cops murdering civilians.
Quote from: sbr on January 25, 2016, 06:18:28 PM
Well I guess prosecutors have to do something in the down time between covering up for cops murdering civilians.
WTF
Shots fired, shots fired!
Reviewing a file where a dude is preparing hash oil in his basement using butane. Police working theory is that the pilot light in the furnace ignites the butane, but in any event there's a huge explosion giving the guy 40% burns on his body, while also injuring his wife and one of their children (who is hit by the basement door when its blown off its hinges).
:frusty:
I kinda miss doing staff review for charging docs. I mean, you just don't make up "the room displayed signs of having been rammed sacked recently..." on your own, you know.
Strangest incident of burglary we had in our office building, this happened to a trucking company with which we shared the building. One morning we came to the office and the door was forced but nothing was taken. Strangely enough the tachographs of the trucking company were missing though. Off course since not much was gone the police didn't further investigate :hmm:
My little theories.
1)someone of that company made the tachographs dissappear and made it look like a burglary.
2)burglar saw that not much was to be taken and left. Trucking company used this as a useful moment to get rid of the tachographs.
What's a tachograph?
A kind of black box for truckers.
They're used over here to control driving and resting times.
If tachographs with infringements dissappear it would be beneficial for the company.
Completely anti-management, anti-free market gadgets. Such pro-employee safety, uniony thingies would never catch on here. Smacks of Communismtm.
Over here they've found a simple way to circumvent this.
Instead of using a regulated truck, take some Eastern European vans. They aren't bound to resting hours and have no tachograph.
Problem solved.
Here's one for this thread: "Police, firefighters called in after flat Earth debate turns heated" :lol:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/flat-earth-debate-leads-to-fire-police-call-1.3634692
QuoteA family argument over whether the Earth is flat or round became so heated that one of the participants threw a propane cylinder onto a campfire, prompting an intervention by firefighters.
The dispute over a question most considered resolved centuries ago boiled over around 10:30 p.m. Monday at St. Lawrence Park in Brockville, Ont.
Police said a 56-year-old Brockville man was at a campsite with his son and his son's girlfriend when the woman began insisting that the Earth is flat.
The older man insisted the Earth is round.
It's not clear if anyone at the campfire put forth the argument that the Earth's equatorial bulge makes it not perfectly round, but instead a shape known as an oblate spheroid. [ :D ]
Nevertheless, police said the man became so enraged he began throwing objects into the campfire, including a propane cylinder.
Brockville firefighters were called to put out the campfire. By the time police arrived at the scene, the man had left.
Brockville police are looking for the man and say they expect to charge him with mischief.
Quote from: Syt on July 20, 2015, 04:38:18 AM
It seems that occasionally people in Germany try to get out of a pickle by claiming they don't recognize the Federal Republic of Germany as the rightful authority in Germany, and that the current country was founded illegally on the (partial) territory of the Germany Reich.
So with a man who refused to pay his car taxes. When executory officers showed up at his home to either take the cash or impound items that could be turned into cash he filed a criminal complaint with the state prosecutors (of the country he doesn't recognize :rolleyes: ) claiming that the officers were impersonating officials of a country that doesn't exist and were therefore acting illegally.
The office quickly wrote him back that they would not prosecute, with the usual formulaic text that he could file an objection with the prosecution, but adding that that alternatively he could petition the King of Prussia. :lol:
We have those idiots in America who believe that they are not subject to the federal government, but are sovereign citizens. This is a good way to deal with them.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 19, 2016, 07:41:47 PM
I kinda miss doing staff review for charging docs. I mean, you just don't make up "the room displayed signs of having been rammed sacked recently..." on your own, you know.
I took the alleged marijuana from the suspect, and confirmed it was alleged marijuana through field reagent testing and my years of police experience.
Quote from: Scipio on June 16, 2016, 12:58:19 PM
I took the alleged marijuana from the suspect, and confirmed it was alleged marijuana through field reagent testing and my years of police experience.
"The suspected narcotics was concealed in the suspect's mouth area."
This is more of a dumb cop story, but whatever. Read in a file I was reviewing for offers:
QuoteA query on Police information systems found that [Name Removed] was bound by "no contact"
conditions with several males. The passenger of the vehicle was asked his name as he
might be one of the males [Name Removed] is not to be in contact with. The passenger stated
that his name was [name removed] (94NOV31), but a check on Police information systems
revealed that there are only 30 days in November and there was no one with that name
and date of birth on Police information systems.
:XD:
Real transcript read by the voices of Rick and morty :lol:
https://youtu.be/DXB988kF3hI
http://www.northwestgeorgianews.com/rome/news/local/murder-suspect-threatens-to-kill-judge-s-family/article_a4fedf36-34c0-11e6-8c1e-3ff831c18729.html It's got a picture of him.
Dumb motherfucker is never going to get out of solitary. He's accused of killing a person in jail. That seems like it's really hard to defend against.
C'mon, Raz...that shit's over a month old.
It's the guy from HVC movie!
I'm guessing that the story of how Trump won the election will go here after november...
(assuming he wins of course. He might still die, be killed, be kidnapped by aliens, be an alien himself, etc.)
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Quote from: HVC on July 25, 2016, 06:52:40 PM
Real transcript read by the voices of Rick and morty :lol:
https://youtu.be/DXB988kF3hI
Man, that is funny as balls. :D
So my Accused is up on charges of a high speed chase from police, ramming police cars, all in a stolen vehicle and with a trunk load of stolen property. He enters pleas and requests a Pre-Sentence Report (where a probation officer rights up his background information) but also something called a Gladue Report. A Gladue Report is supposed to outline his First Nations heritage and how it may have disadvantaged him. It's supposed to 'stop the over-representation of First Nations people in our justice system'.
So the Gladue Report comes back. The kid definitely led a shitty life, constant exposure to drugs and alcohol, physical and sexual abuse, the whole nine yards. He does keep in touch with his dad's family, participates in native rituals and culture.
We also get the Pre-Sentence Report. Buried in the middle of one of the pages they talk to the Accused's mother. Mom says that his father is actually someone else - a white guy (mom herself is white). He's not Indian.
In court, the defence lawyer gives the guy the report to read in court. His jaw drops - this is the first time he's ever heard that the man he thought was his father, isn't.
So rather than being affirmitive actioned to freedom he is affirmitive actioned to jail?
Does it affect the legal situation? Surely you can be Indian by adoption or similar?
Shitty way to find out you dad isn't your dad.
The Gladue Report seems to have worked. One less First Nation guy in the system.
Quote from: dps on September 07, 2016, 07:41:25 PM
Shitty way to find out you dad isn't your dad.
That's the kicker of this story.
It doesn't really change his legal status one way or another. But you've lived 22 years and THAT'S how you find out? Sitting in shackles in a courtroom? Poor kid. I mean he's still pretty dangerous (statistically a 73% probability of re-offending within a year), but I feel for him.
Reviewing files for a bail hearing tomorrow.
Woman is apparently a serial shoplifter. On one occasion she's in a store with her two kids, ages 6 and 8. She selects various items into a shopping cart, exits without paying. LPOs go to stop her. She tells the kids "run", and runs towards her vehicle. Mom and the 8 year old make it, but the 6 year old freezes in the parking lot. Mom then leaves in her car, leaving the 6 year old behind.
Cops arrive, poor kid is crying, wondering where her mom is and how she'll get home.
Mom eventually returns 40 minutes later and is promptly arrested. BY now of course none of the stolen goods remain on her person or in the car.
:ultra:
And I thought the Mom I saw the other day who told her 3 or 4 year old that it's ok to cross a red light if there's no cars coming was a bad parent. :(
http://wbtw.com/2017/06/14/man-who-robbed-bank-to-avoid-wife-sentenced-to-home-confinement/
QuoteMan who robbed bank to avoid wife sentenced to home confinement
KANSAS CITY, Kan. — A 70-year-old man who said he robbed a Kansas City, Kansas, bank so he could get away from his wife blamed his actions on depression.
A federal judge sentenced Lawrence John Ripple on Tuesday. The Kansas City Star reported he was sentenced to six months of home confinement and three years of supervised probation, which includes 50 hours of community service
Ripple went to the Bank of Labor — a block from police headquarters — last September. He gave a note to a teller saying he had a gun and was demanding money. After he was given it, Ripple waited for police.
Court records indicate Ripple wrote the robbery note in front of his wife and told her he would rather be in jail than at home.
The Kansas City Star reports Ripple told the judge Tuesday that heart surgery left him depressed and unlike himself before he robbed the bank.
:lol:
Death penalty then
:lol: I imagined Rodney Dangerfeild for some reason.
Names changed to protect the privacy interests of those involved, but otherwise copy-pasted from the police summary:
1. On June 13, 2018 Edmonton Police Service investigated an impersonation
complaint that occurred at the Edmonton Remand Centre (ERC); 18415 127 Street,
Edmonton Alberta. The incident in question occurred on May 15, 2018 at approx. 1646
hours and involved two inmates; inmate V and inmate C.
The incident in question was reported to police on May 15, 2018 by Remand staff and
police investigations were requested.
2. On May 15, 2018 at approx. 1646 hours correctional staff working Pod 4 directed
inmate V to the staffing station as he was slated for release. Inmate C
attended the staffing station and identified himself as "V". Correctional officer
VH
obtained a identification card from C and noted that C's
appearance did not match that on the identification card. Correctional officer VH
asked additional questions to confirm identity. C was able to provide V'
full name, date of birth, and ORCA number verbatim. Further to this a tattoo
confirmation was conducted as V was noted to have a tattoo on his neck.
C displayed his tattoo which was identical to that of V' (later determined
that C had drawn on this tattoo).
3. Correctional officer VH
became satisfied with identity based on the
information obtained. C was escorted from Pod 4 to the Admission and
Discharge area awaiting release from custody. Approx. 20 minutes later inmate V
contacted correctional staff on Pod 4 and questioned them about his impending release.
Correctional staff contacted Admissions and Discharge and were able to intervene prior
to C's release. It should be noted that C was already changed into street
clothes at this time and was minutes away from final release.
That sounds more like "dumb correctional officer stories". :P
I am presuming the theory here is not that C came up with a good way to just get himself out, but that they worked together (on the presumption the authorities could not hold V just because they goofed and let C go by mistake) on this, but fucked up the timing.
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 13, 2018, 12:50:24 PM
That sounds more like "dumb correctional officer stories". :P
I am presuming the theory here is not that C came up with a good way to just get himself out, but that they worked together (on the presumption the authorities could not hold V just because they goofed and let C go by mistake) on this, but fucked up the timing.
Well, it's both. I can't believe that C thought that would work, and I can't believe that it actually almost did work!
Only C is charged - no direct evidence that V assisted. But yeah, that would be my suspicion as well.
Quote from: Barrister on July 13, 2018, 01:03:22 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 13, 2018, 12:50:24 PM
That sounds more like "dumb correctional officer stories". :P
I am presuming the theory here is not that C came up with a good way to just get himself out, but that they worked together (on the presumption the authorities could not hold V just because they goofed and let C go by mistake) on this, but fucked up the timing.
Well, it's both. I can't believe that C thought that would work, and I can't believe that it actually almost did work!
Only C is charged - no direct evidence that V assisted. But yeah, that would be my suspicion as well.
I don't think this can be classified as a "dumb criminal" story though - seems a clever plan that almost worked! :lol:
He drew a tattoo on his neck. I can't believe anyone fell for that.
Quote from: Barrister on July 13, 2018, 01:10:20 PM
He drew a tattoo on his neck. I can't believe anyone fell for that.
I dunno, maybe the original was a crude "prison tat". It would be a lot easier to make that look "identical" by drawing it on.
I shudder to think what kinds of criminals roam free in Canada, if C is one of their dumber ones.
Quote from: HVC on July 25, 2016, 06:52:40 PM
Real transcript read by the voices of Rick and morty :lol:
https://youtu.be/DXB988kF3hI (https://youtu.be/DXB988kF3hI)
So I was curious what happened to this guy. Plead guilty, life imprisonment.
Reading the summary of a fairly routine convenience store robbery:
QuoteI was informed that a male entered the store where he immediately went
behind the counter and placed the clerk, G, in a headlock holding a large kitchen
knife toward his neck. The male demanded G open the safe, to which he stated he was
unable to do so. At this time another male and female entered the store where they grabbed
cigarettes, lottery tickets, and food items while the first male continued to hold onto
G. G was then brought to the front of the store as the first male yelled at his
accomplices to hurry up. G was then released and all three fled out the door, one
returned briefly to steal a cardboard standup
from the movie Deadpool.
:rolleyes:
So this lady walks into a Walmart, takes a steam cleaner wirth $167 off the shelves, then walks over to customer service to "return" it, and is given a gift card with $167. Walmart LPOs realize the fraud the next day, and in response cancel the gift card.
Lady comes in the following day to complain about the cancelled card, at which point she is arrested.
Quote from: Barrister on January 31, 2019, 03:33:50 PM
So this lady walks into a Walmart, takes a steam cleaner wirth $167 off the shelves, then walks over to customer service to "return" it, and is given a gift card with $167. Walmart LPOs realize the fraud the next day, and in response cancel the gift card.
Lady comes in the following day to complain about the cancelled card, at which point she is arrested.
The perfect crime!
I think WalMart sounds a lot dumber than she does in this story...
Quote from: Berkut on January 31, 2019, 03:55:19 PM
I think WalMart sounds a lot dumber than she does in this story...
Meh. They make the calculated trade-off that they'll accept exchanges w/o a receipt, knowing it will encourage some level of fraud, in order to increase customer satisfaction of those who legitimately want to make an exchange but can't find their receipt.
The dumb part of course wasn't the fraud itself (which is a very common MO), but to return to the store once the card had been cancelled.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 13, 2018, 06:59:36 PM
Quote from: HVC on July 25, 2016, 06:52:40 PM
Real transcript read by the voices of Rick and morty :lol:
https://youtu.be/DXB988kF3hI (https://youtu.be/DXB988kF3hI)
So I was curious what happened to this guy. Plead guilty, life imprisonment.
Just decided to look it up for myself
https://nypost.com/2017/12/12/man-whose-incredibly-crude-exchange-with-judge-went-viral-gets-life/
Holy crap.
Quote from: Berkut on January 31, 2019, 05:01:19 PM
Holy crap.
I know he killed a man in cold blood, and I don't wanting him walking the streets, but I feel bad for the guy.
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:wub:
Damn, some boring bureaucrat is going to come down hard on that.
Here is one really nice story :)
Wanted BC man arrested after revealing location (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/wanted-bc-man-arrested-reveals-local-media-in-edmonton-1.5136226)
Quote
Jessie Dean Kowalchuk has been transported back to Kamloops from Edmonton to face a judge for three charges of breach of probation stemming from three separate files in 2015.
Last December, Kowalchuk saw his photo being circulated by Kamloops media outlet CFJC Today as part of a weekly Most Wanted segment, said Kamloops RCMP spokesperson Cpl. Jodi Shelkie.
He then sent a direct message on Facebook to CFJC Today.
"News flash morons: I'm in Edmonton and not coming back," said Kowalchuk in part of his message, which was given to CBC by the RCMP.
"The tone of his message was very derogatory stating that the RCMP had missed the ball, because he'd been living in Edmonton for three years," said Shelkie.
Warrant extended
After the RCMP became aware of Kowalchuk's Facebook post, it requested the B.C. Prosecution Service extend his three outstanding warrants to Alberta.
On May 10, he was arrested by Edmonton police, remanded and then sent back to Kamloops, said Shelkie.
"We're just really pleased that he sent the message advising where he was living in Alberta and that we were able to extend the warrants to Alberta so that we could bring him back here to face charges," she said.
"You've got to face up to your actions at some point and you know it doesn't matter where you go. Sooner or later the police are going to find you, and in this case, we did."
that one tops the list, I'm sure! :P
I really like the conclusion... The RCMP always get their man... yeah, with a little help ;) :D
I approve of someone who isn't me bumping this thread. :thumbsup:
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Ed Sheeran:
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:lol:
That's what a church gets for allowing the performance of such a sinful song?
:lol:
Police in Vienna caught three cyclists who were high on weed. They noticed them when they were waiting at a traffic light. When the light switched to green, instead of moving on, they just kept staring at the light, mesmerized. :lol:
Quote from: Syt on May 01, 2020, 04:00:49 AM
Police in Vienna caught three cyclists who were high on weed. They noticed them when they were waiting at a traffic light. When the light switched to green, instead of moving on, they just kept staring at the light, mesmerized. :lol:
People who don't immediately go on green are the worst.
BBC News - No porridge for 'Goldilocks' intruder who burgled Nelson home
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-29614870
Old, but just been reminded of it. Truly bizzare.
What's so bizarre about a squatter?
When you read a headline on r/nottheonion and think, "Probably Florida?"
And it turns out you're right. :D
https://apnews.com/d67c8b565e729a7b1b8d919f993f6b6e
QuotePolice: Men broke into home while wearing GPS ankle monitors
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (AP) — A group of men already on pretrial release for previous offenses are behind a string of burglaries carried them out while wearing ankle monitors that track their locations, police said.
Authorities seized more than $150,000 in cash, an AK-47, a Smith & Wesson handgun, cellphones, iPads, jewelry, designer handbags, ammunition, blank checks, fraudulent debit and credit cards, and a stolen vehicle, the South Florida Sun Sentinel reported.
Zion Odain Denvor Hall, 21, Tyrek Davontae Williams, 19, and Tremaine Raekwon Hill, 18, were arrested Friday. They are accused of being part of a criminal organization committing burglaries, armed burglaries, fraud, gun thefts and other criminal acts throughout South Florida, Hollywood police said Tuesday.
Hall, Williams and Hill each face charges of burglary, grand theft and racketeering. Hall is facing 35 counts, and Williams and Hill are facing 25 and 19 counts respectively. They were taken into custody while under house arrest awaiting trial on unrelated charges.
Hollywood and Margate police, the Broward Sheriff's Office and the Florida Attorney General's Office are conducting a joint investigation.
Raekwon? His parents didn't even give him a chance :(
Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2020, 01:39:34 PM
Raekwon? His parents didn't even give him a chance :(
It's not an uncommon black name.
Unless you're saying that by having a "stereotypical black name", his parents drove him to a life of crime? :unsure:
QuoteTyrek
I expect better from Vulcans. :(
Quote from: merithyn on August 20, 2020, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2020, 01:39:34 PM
Raekwon? His parents didn't even give him a chance :(
It's not an uncommon black name.
Unless you're saying that by having a "stereotypical black name", his parents drove him to a life of crime? :unsure:
It's a stage name FFS!
I was just having some fun with the reference, not touching that race stuff.
So I was in court yesterday, set to run a trial on an impaired driving charge. Very very routine thing - I must've run over 100 by this point.
Accused was in custody which was causing a problem. Ultimately the system didn't bring him to court.
But I look into why this guy is in custody. Turns out he's at the Drumheller Institution, which is a federal prison (so for sentences of 2+ years). Impaired would almost never get a sentence like that - and of course he hasn't been sentenced yet.
Turns out this Accused is in his late 60s. In 1981 he was convicted of second degree murder, given a life sentence, with 10 year parole eligibility. And sure enough by 1990 he was granted parole. According to his record he picked up a couple of impaired in the 90s, and had his parole revoked in 2012, but has pretty much stayed out of trouble.
Turns out when this guy was picked up for the impaired the parole board revoked his parole. And he has now been sitting in a federal prison for the last 6 months. :blink:
Not sure that's the best use of resources. But what's worse is that his lawyers set it down for trial allowing him to sit for 6 months when there was no defence I could see.
I think this belongs here:
Woman nearly kills herself setting ex-boyfriend's car on fire (https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/uczuog/woman_nearly_kills_herself_setting_exboyfriends/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Was watching a 3 on 1 assault on a CCTV videos. One of the assailants is wearing an Edmonton Oilers jersey. Not a big shocker in this city. But I eventually I realize it's a custom jersey - name is Cardinal, number is 84.
One of my Accuseds are named Cardinal, and he was born in 1984.
I read an article about a woman who is alleged to have shot her husband's girlfriend while dressed as a clown, delivering balloons. This supposedly happened thirty years ago and her trial had been postponed many times ... it was just postponed again. She was arrested in 2017 - this has been dragged out for five years!
And yes, it was in Florida.
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/us/2022/05/18/florida-killer-clown-trial-delayed-again--for-a-sixth-time.html?rf
I have a trial, also from 2017, where we adjourned it for the 7th time.
First 4 or so times it was because Accused kept changing lawyers. Eventually judge got so tired of it they said to go ahead with or without a lawyer. Unfortunately after hearing from one witness the judge gave him an adjournment to get ready. Next time Accused said he had covid. Time after that defence lawyer said he had covid (reputable lawyer, I don't doubt him - only time I ever consented to an adjournment).
Out on bail I assume? Anyway to revoke bail for switching lawyers to get delays?
Quote from: HVC on May 18, 2022, 10:48:49 PMOut on bail I assume? Anyway to revoke bail for switching lawyers to get delays?
'Woman accused of murderous clowning juggles lawyers'.
So not actually that dumb - I just thought it was Languish-worthy.
Accused breaks in to a collectible store - steals thousands of dollars of Magic: The Gathering and Pokemon cards.
Not uncommon. Valuable, transportable, untraceable, easy to sell, retain their value for a long time.
Quote from: chipwich on February 22, 2023, 02:31:57 PMNot uncommon. Valuable, transportable, untraceable, easy to sell, retain their value for a long time.
None of those are words I would use to describe collectibles.
I guess if you really know what you are doing. Also I guess if you are getting them for free.
You should be able to sell unopened packs of current collectible card games pretty easily I'd think.
Accused is intoxicated, barricades themselves in a basement suite. Tells police they have a bomb and not to enter, stating "we are going down in a blades of glory!"
You don't know what he used as shrapnel, he could just be poetic and not necessarily using the quote wrong :P
Quote from: HVC on March 24, 2023, 01:17:01 PMYou don't know what he used as shrapnel, he could just be poetic and not necessarily using the quote wrong :P
Maybe he is just a big Will Ferrel fan?
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Texas man bragged about stealing money from cartel. Now he's missing, officials say (https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article273913990.html)
QuoteA Texas man bragged about stealing money from a Mexican cartel and believed he was safe from retribution in the United States — but now he's missing, according to the FBI. Erik Tadeo Ramirez was last seen trying to escape from a moving pickup truck as it crossed the Juarez-Lincoln International Bridge in Laredo, Texas, according to a criminal complaint filed by the FBI.
A March 24 video recording captured a man with a bloodied face in the passenger seat of a blue Dodge Ram with several other men at 1:09 a.m. He opens the door and tries to jump out, but the men grab him and pull him back inside, officials said in the complaint.
The truck blows past the bridge attendant and heads into Mexico, leaving a blood-stained shirt and pair of pants along the road, according to the complaint.
Hours earlier, Ramirez was boastful, witnesses told investigators. They overheard him talking on the phone at 11 p.m. during a party at a home in Laredo, telling an unknown woman he'd stolen $50,000 from Cartel Del Noreste, according to documents.
He told the woman he wasn't scared of her, that he didn't fear retribution because he was in the United States, witnesses said.
But about two hours later, at 12:45 a.m., the blue truck arrived at the address. Masked men with guns got out, attacked Ramirez, dragged him into the cab and drove off, officials said in the documents.
Ramirez's sister reported him missing to the Laredo Police Department, and the FBI quickly became involved.
Investigators identified the driver of the pickup truck as Jonathan Cavriales, and he was arrested March 27 when he tried to cross the border back into the U.S., documents said. The truck was registered to Cavriales' mother, according to the FBI.
After the kidnapping, Cavriales stopped at his grandmother's house in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, to rest, according to documents. While he slept, Cavriales' grandmother called his mom in the U.S., concerned because he "did not look well, and something was wrong with (him)."
In an interview with investigators, Cavriales said he and three other men carried out Ramirez' kidnapping and "that he was aware that (Ramirez) had stolen approximately $50,000 from Cartel Del Noreste," officials said in the documents.
It's not clear where Ramirez is now, but investigators are still searching for him.
"The FBI is aware of this incident, but is unable to provide comment on this ongoing investigation," a Bureau spokesperson told McClatchy News in an email April 2. "The FBI relentlessly pursues all options when it comes to protecting the American people, and this doesn't change when they are endangered across the border. The FBI pursues all cases with the same vigor and commitment to process."
Anyone with information related to the case is asked to contact the FBI's San Antonio Division at 210-225-6741.
Well... Stealing from a Mexican cartel is dumb enough, but to brag about it over the phone to one of the cartel members that you're safe in the US... Fuck...
It's a Wednesday, 1pm. Male and female drive up separately, park across the street from an elementary school. The female gets into the male's vehicle, where they proceed to have loud and vigorous sex. This is heard by neighbours who call the police.
WTF? I know people have needs - but outside an elementary school?
Maybe they thought to drop off the resulting offspring at school?
Seen in an information: "Assault with a weapon: to wit an unknown item or imitation thereof".
Quote from: Barrister on September 05, 2023, 12:10:07 PMSeen in an information: "Assault with a weapon: to wit an unknown item or imitation thereof".
:hmm:
Old lady gets tazed and arrested for evading arrest and assaulting a cop because she didn't want to sign a ticket. Best line:
"You're under arrest"
"No I'm not"
I think she was correct, at the time at least.
Quote from: HVC on September 15, 2023, 11:00:08 PMOld lady gets tazed and arrested for evading arrest and assaulting a cop because she didn't want to sign a ticket. Best line:
"You're under arrest"
"No I'm not"
That's a whole new level of stupidity.
It's a very common line in cop cams.
In 2000, a guy in Austria was sentenced to 15 months in jail for property related crimes.
After 7 or 8 months he was permitted to go on day parole (limited time outside but having to return to prison).
He went on the run.
Now, 23 years later, he went to a police station in Salzburg to turn himself in. He said he spent the time working in restaurants in Brandenburg, but his conscience is bothering him too much now. He's 47. The reports say he has to complete his original sentence, though I assume he may look at a bit longer than originally planned.