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#42
Quote from: clandestino on Today at 09:50:04 AMNot that much these days, it seems. Either because of financial fair play regulations or because the Fosun money has dried up, or both, the relation with Mendes seems somewhat distant. The flop of Fabio Silva did wonders for that as well, alongside a very competent manager that seems outside of his orbit.

Seems you are trying to rationalise it.  :P

QuoteThere is still a strong Portuguese presence that helps, of course, and while it has diminished recently, the football played has improved which compensates for that. I don't think it's related though  :P

Well, I am still skeptical.  :hmm: No strong opinion though.

QuoteAs you may know, in our generation at least, one doesn't chose a football club, he inherits it from his family. Mine (patrilineal line) is Sporting through and through. Not because of class, since they were at best, non-agrarian rural working class, but maybe because they were at its peak while my grandfather was young.

Seemed a bit freer up North, though I can see lots of people I know who went along. My father was not that much into football, though following it distantly. The Clubes do Regime slogan I picked from him, however.
QuoteRegarding Estrela, got to see them a couple of times this season and it was nice, relaxed when compared with what I was used to. One of them was a 2-1 win over Estoril in the last minute of overtime, which was epic. :D

(Un)fortunatelly since I'm moving to a different area this summer (one that doesn't support a football club in the first 2 divisions for tenths of kms) and I'm not a native of Amadora, not sure if I'll keep the interest in the club forward.

I thought they had gone under, I'm happy to see if they are still alive. They are one of the historicals after all, not among the Greats, of course. Waiting for Académica to resurrect.  :P
QuoteNo thoughts about André Ventura, an infamous pro-Benfica troll on a trashy TV "news" channel?  :P

QuoteYes, plenty of thoughts. Not nice ones though. :ph34r:

I would not have it any other way.  :lol:
#43
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 10:31:47 AMSo what were the conclusions - who won, in what ways, and what does it mean for Portugal's future?

... and who were each of the people?

1 Bruno Fialho

A loony candidate of the ADN party (sorry I did not come up with the idea), COVID skeptic if not denier who got his 15 minutes of fame on Portuguese TV by talking of the elephant in the room (the anti-COVID measures) during a debate with the other very minor candidates.


2 Inês de Sousa Real

From the PAN (Pessoas Animais Natureza) The Green candidate, more or less.


3 André Ventura

The Chega (Enough!) leader, a former PSD local politician who saw there was an opening after the collapse of the real conservative party, the CDS-PP (CDU light, German-style but pre-Merkel). Populist right, with a very effective social network communication and/or propaganda, but not exactly on the same page as Marine or Zemmour in France regarding the EU and NATO. He is anathema to the left.


4 Rui Tavares

Leader of the Livre party (free). Leftish, grass-roots centre-left/left green party.


5 Pedro Nuno Santos

PS leader. Spent the whole campaign contradicting himself, but given the horrendous hand he was given, did well. Almost on parity with PSD


6 Luis Montenegro (no connection with the Balkan country  :P )

™The Beach Boy™ PSD leader.
Refused to ally with André Ventura's party and is now paying the price for his political correctness. He won, but barely.
Seems to have some family connection not far from Bragança, from a village I know for having been there some times. Plu


7 Rui Rocha

Iniciativa Liberal leader, classical Liberal party (you can find them on LinkedIn!  :D ). Will and has supported the PSD (centre-right), from time to time.


8 Mariana Mortágua

Bloco de Esquerdas. Left-Wings Block
The far-left party, with Trots, Maos, whatever far left. Left of the PS, and not disciplined (stalinist?  :D ) enough to be part of the PCP.  :P
Oh, and one last thing:
Languish Darling vote is a lesbian, sorry.  :P Which may or may not turn some people on, at least here on Languish.
#44
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Last post by Barrister - Today at 11:24:23 AM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 11:20:22 AMI believe it's a well established fact that obesity etc is becoming more widespread across Europe. There are some North-South trends (and East-West ones too?), but I believe overall everyone is getting fatter at varying rates.

So this is just a pretty low sample size of the 20 guys I play hockey with, but the younger guys are mostly all fat while the old guys aren't.  But also fitness can only make up for age up to a point.
#45
Quote from: Valmy on Today at 11:04:50 AMI do not understand the results of this election:

Fair enough.

QuoteThe Government, some kind of centrist alliance, has 80 seats

Centre-right, though by US or Texas standards, pinkos.  :P

QuoteThe opposition has 150 seats

Extreme-left, communists, whatever Greenish/lefty, Centre-left, and "right of the right" (for lack of a better word.
So there is not much common ground. Mind you, the PSD leader refused to ally with the right of the right (populist right), under pressure from the PS, while some PSD barons disagreed.

QuoteUm...how does that work?

Minority government, so it does not, really, except on a case-to-case basis.
#46
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Last post by Jacob - Today at 11:20:22 AM
I believe it's a well established fact that obesity etc is becoming more widespread across Europe. There are some North-South trends (and East-West ones too?), but I believe overall everyone is getting fatter at varying rates.
#47
Off the Record / Re: 2024 Portuguese snap Legis...
Last post by clandestino - Today at 11:17:45 AM
Quote from: Valmy on Today at 11:04:50 AMI do not understand the results of this election:

The Government, some kind of centrist alliance, has 80 seats

The opposition has 150 seats

Um...how does that work?

So far, it doesn't. :lol:

I'll write a longer explanation answering Jacob question.

But regarding the math, it's pretty simple, since none of the top 3 parties ally each other, there isn't any viable stable majority, only ad-hoc alliances and jockeying for victimization so they can reap some possible rewards in an upcoming election, maybe still this year.
#48
Off the Record / Re: 2024 Portuguese snap Legis...
Last post by Valmy - Today at 11:04:50 AM
I do not understand the results of this election:

The Government, some kind of centrist alliance, has 80 seats

The opposition has 150 seats

Um...how does that work?
#49
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Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on Today at 09:28:17 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 08:49:42 AM
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 08:21:35 AMI wonder if this will be the first generation when the younger men are weaker/less fit than the older generation.

Possibly, but one thing I can tell is that your (our) generation will not be the first which will NOT think the next generation is inferior.  :P

Really, in what generation do you think a man about 60 could look at a group of 30 something men and realize he is clearly stronger and in better shape?

I don't know if us Xers are the ferocious fitness fanatics as you seem to think  :lol:

What happened to us anyway? We used to slackers who were too cool to care, now I see Xers whining about kids today like they are lame Boomers.

We should be like:

"Kids today? Oh they're cool."

"Are you being sarcastic, dude?"

"I don't even know anymore."

Well, I am not sure Americans have been the pictures of health, I am more talking about the Europeans.  The change over the last 40 years has been striking.
#50
Off the Record / Re: 2024 Portuguese snap Legis...
Last post by Jacob - Today at 10:31:47 AM
So what were the conclusions - who won, in what ways, and what does it mean for Portugal's future?

... and who were each of the people?