MS ends retail sales of Windows 8 (http://www.zdnet.com/going-so-soon-microsoft-ends-retail-sales-of-windows-8-7000035347/)
QuoteSales of Windows 7 Professional will continue and Microsoft has said it will give a year's notice of the end of sale date.
Well, that was quick. Though they also officially retire all other Windows 7 products. Only 8.1 will remain widely available, until Windows 10 is out, August 2015, most likely.
I suddenly feel like when my family got a number computer and it was Windows ME. :weep:
Btw, I love their reason for why it is Windows 10. So silly.
I think that article is mistaken - surely it's the retail sale of Win 7 that has ended?
I am quite happy with Windows 7. Is there any reason why I should bother to pay someone to upgrade to Windows 8 or 10? :unsure:
I wish they stopped all the naming and just go from Windows 3.0 - 4.0 - 5.0 and so on.
Quote from: Barrister on November 04, 2014, 07:40:02 PM
I think that article is mistaken - surely it's the retail sale of Win 7 that has ended?
Looks like only 8.1 will be sold until 10 comes out - like V said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29880144
8.1 isn't terrible. I think 10 will be nice. After a service pack or two. I don't really like being an early adopter for an OS, outside of maybe making a VM or two for professional development reasons I won't upgrade for a few years.
is there a huge diff. between 8.0 and 8.1?
Quote from: Josephus on November 04, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
is there a huge diff. between 8.0 and 8.1?
8.1 fucked up my computer when I tried to upgrade to it. <_<
There's no real reason to have both 8 and 8.1 for sale.
Quote from: Josephus on November 04, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
is there a huge diff. between 8.0 and 8.1?
A start button & memory management improvements.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 04, 2014, 07:45:52 PM
I am quite happy with Windows 7. Is there any reason why I should bother to pay someone to upgrade to Windows 8 or 10? :unsure:
I wish they stopped all the naming and just go from Windows 3.0 - 4.0 - 5.0 and so on.
Keep 7.
I will upgrade to 10 when it comes out I imagine, but I can't see why I would mess around with any flavor of 8.
So this is sort of a non-story, no? Why would anyone buy 8 if 8.1 is available. I mean it has that start button after all.
Quote from: Barrister on November 04, 2014, 07:40:02 PM
I think that article is mistaken - surely it's the retail sale of Win 7 that has ended?
They still sell Windows 8.1 :)
Upgrades for Windows 8 (not 8.1) have been disabled since a few months.
But effectively, they plan to stop selling Win 8 before they stop selling all versions of Windows 7.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 04, 2014, 07:45:52 PM
I am quite happy with Windows 7. Is there any reason why I should bother to pay someone to upgrade to Windows 8 or 10? :unsure:
Yes, there is always reasons to pay someone. You can pay me anytime for counseling you on your upgrade needs, Mono :P
Seriously:
Windows 8.1 is more secure. It is, maybe, marginally faster than Windows 7, but nothing you would really notice in day to day computing or gaming. The big problem is the interface, it was designed for a "post-PC era" that never really came, despite dire news reports from some shoddy medias. Majority of Win8 users still use a keyboard and a mouse.
So, if you buy a new computer, buy Windows 8.1. If you're a geek and you like to fiddle with your computer, try new things, expand your horizons, upgrade to Windows 8.1.
If you need to pay someone to do the upgrade for you, stick with Windows 7 ;)
Quote from: Josephus on November 04, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
is there a huge diff. between 8.0 and 8.1?
Microsoft updates are no longer available for those who do not upgrade to Windows 8.1, I think.
Aside that, the changes are cosmetic only. Figure it like it is Service Pack #1.
Quote from: Josephus on November 04, 2014, 11:01:10 PM
So this is sort of a non-story, no? Why would anyone buy 8 if 8.1 is available. I mean it has that start button after all.
it's a non story, except for the fact that Windows 7 is still not entirely retired, as they keep the professionnal version out for sale. That is unusual.
Quote from: viper37 on November 05, 2014, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on November 04, 2014, 07:45:52 PM
I am quite happy with Windows 7. Is there any reason why I should bother to pay someone to upgrade to Windows 8 or 10? :unsure:
Yes, there is always reasons to pay someone. You can pay me anytime for counseling you on your upgrade needs, Mono :P
Seriously:
Windows 8.1 is more secure. It is, maybe, marginally faster than Windows 7, but nothing you would really notice in day to day computing or gaming. The big problem is the interface, it was designed for a "post-PC era" that never really came, despite dire news reports from some shoddy medias. Majority of Win8 users still use a keyboard and a mouse.
So, if you buy a new computer, buy Windows 8.1. If you're a geek and you like to fiddle with your computer, try new things, expand your horizons, upgrade to Windows 8.1.
If you need to pay someone to do the upgrade for you, stick with Windows 7 ;)
There is absolutely no way I will change the operating system by myself. I hate changes in the operating system. I only change it if I am forced to do so.
Quote from: viper37 on November 05, 2014, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: Josephus on November 04, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
is there a huge diff. between 8.0 and 8.1?
Microsoft updates are no longer available for those who do not upgrade to Windows 8.1, I think.
Aside that, the changes are cosmetic only. Figure it like it is Service Pack #1.
Microsoft recently gave me updates and I am firmly back on 8 and not on 8.1.
Quote from: Monoriu on November 05, 2014, 10:26:02 AM
There is absolutely no way I will change the operating system by myself. I hate changes in the operating system. I only change it if I am forced to do so.
As we all knew ;)
Like Grey Fox and I said: don't touch Windows 8.1. Wait for Windows 10, and if you upgrade your computer, than ask the shop to upgrade to Windows 10 along the same time.
Quote from: garbon on November 05, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 05, 2014, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: Josephus on November 04, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
is there a huge diff. between 8.0 and 8.1?
Microsoft updates are no longer available for those who do not upgrade to Windows 8.1, I think.
Aside that, the changes are cosmetic only. Figure it like it is Service Pack #1.
Microsoft recently gave me updates and I am firmly back on 8 and not on 8.1.
than it's some update that is required before other, so no big deal :)
I like Windows 8.1.
8.1 is great for my laptop/tablet convertible, but then again, that's pretty much what 8 was designed for.
Wow, Win 8 versions are already fading out. I got Win 7 with my new computer as I didn't need what Win 8 had with apps and such, but it seemed a good idea.
It wasn't.
10 has the same apps and shit. We've got it set up on some VMs here. Meh.
E: It does have multiple desktops if you're in to that.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 07, 2014, 09:37:57 AM
10 has the same apps and shit. We've got it set up on some VMs here. Meh.
E: It does have multiple desktops if you're in to that.
Which is pretty much the main forward-facing feature. 8's not a bad operating system, but since the app launcher was almost a complete and total failure, the only differences noticeable to the user are the look and feel, which are absolute crap in comparison to Windows 7.
The people here that actually use 8 and 8.1 (we've "retired" the 8 image, but it's still on a few machines out there) seem to be generally fine with it once they get used to it, like every other OS, although one of the techs lost his damn mind during the XP upgrades and moved a 70 year old professor from XP all the way to 8 (this was pre 8.1) and didn't tell him anything about it. So that one was fucked up.
E: One of the guys with a bunch of labs and computers here has an odd tendency to buy Macs then completely wipe them and put 8.1 on them. He's got like 25 or 30 of the damn things, so he is definitely a fan of both Apple aesthetics and 8, which is an interesting combination.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 07, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
The people here that actually use 8 and 8.1 (we've "retired" the 8 image, but it's still on a few machines out there) seem to be generally fine with it once they get used to it, like every other OS, although one of the techs lost his damn mind during the XP upgrades and moved a 70 year old professor from XP all the way to 8 (this was pre 8.1) and didn't tell him anything about it. So that one was fucked up.
E: One of the guys with a bunch of labs and computers here has an odd tendency to buy Macs then completely wipe them and put 8.1 on them. He's got like 25 or 30 of the damn things, so he is definitely a fan of both Apple aesthetics and 8, which is an interesting combination.
Why would your org continue letting him blow all that money on macs and then let him wipe out OSX? That seems kind like buying a whole bunch of Kit Kats just to use the wrapper for Nestle Crunch. :blink:
Has this guy never heard of Boot Camp?
He can spend his grant money however he likes, and do what he wants with the shit he buys with it. Those are his computers, not ours.
E: Well probably not entirely however he likes. Strippers and blow might be frowned upon.
Sigh. This is why I'm avoiding the information systems concentration in my major. I can't deal with the stupid things people do to their computers.
Meh, putting a different OS on a machine isn't that big of a deal (this Dr. isn't the only one to do this either, the others are limited to just one or maybe two computers). He also has a couple of Linuxmacs floating around too unless he has reimaged those in the last two-three months. He might have just been messing with those for fun though.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 08, 2014, 09:26:48 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 07, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
The people here that actually use 8 and 8.1 (we've "retired" the 8 image, but it's still on a few machines out there) seem to be generally fine with it once they get used to it, like every other OS, although one of the techs lost his damn mind during the XP upgrades and moved a 70 year old professor from XP all the way to 8 (this was pre 8.1) and didn't tell him anything about it. So that one was fucked up.
E: One of the guys with a bunch of labs and computers here has an odd tendency to buy Macs then completely wipe them and put 8.1 on them. He's got like 25 or 30 of the damn things, so he is definitely a fan of both Apple aesthetics and 8, which is an interesting combination.
Why would your org continue letting him blow all that money on macs and then let him wipe out OSX? That seems kind like buying a whole bunch of Kit Kats just to use the wrapper for Nestle Crunch. :blink:
Has this guy never heard of Boot Camp?
People want Macs. But they want the power of Windows. Don't try to make sense of it, because they don't care for your logic.
Windows 8- too much, too soon.