Quote from: Sheilbh on December 06, 2023, 05:29:33 AMSure. But I'm not sure why that would be relevant in relation to PISA or educational attainment measures and need controlling for? It seems to me more like an explanation than something that needs controlling for, no?
For what it's worth the same broadly shows up in London, white British kids have a lower attainment than kids Chinese, Asian and other minority ethnic heritage and about the same as mixed race kids - but better than black British kids (although again I think there's a split between Caribbean and African heritage). Although that is ethnicity which isn't necessarily first or second generation immigrant - especially I imagine for black Caribbean kids.
An indicator that is also relevant on immigration the same in London as elsewhere is that kids who have a language other than English as their first language tend to better than kids who have English as their first language (which makes sense to me).
Separately and specifically on Scotland - worth noting that Scotland also has lower numbers of working class kids going to university. In part because they decided not to do tuition fees, which are too high in England, but also fund grants for poorer kids - and means the sector gets less money and has expanded less so there's a stricter cap on places. It's basically turned into a bung for the middle class (like a lot of signature SNP policies). Again if I was living in Scotland and looking at how important education was in the 90s/00s when I lived there and there was real pride in having the best education system in the UK, I would be furious at the SNP's record in the last 15 years. Also worth noting it's not clearly something to do with spending:
Interesting piece from an education academic who has been a long-standing critic of the SNP's new curriculum - and more broadly on the knowledge v skills debate (where England went in very strongly on knkowledge and Scotland very strongly on skills). My understanding is that there is a lot of research which backs this academic's view but it is counter-intuitive for a lot of the public:
Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 02:38:40 AMI mean it won't happen for multiple reasons - but the whole thing is also just another example of why I think Sunak isn't actually very good at politics.
Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 03:46:32 AMI loved it. But I'm very easily swayed by a vibes movie