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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by viper37 - Today at 01:39:13 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on Today at 01:35:19 PMI don't think Carney has what it takes to pull a Harper and become PM without any previous ties to Quebec.As it is now, with Pablo Rodriguez as his Lieutenant, no.
He could probably win without Quebec though. There's still a solid base of Anglo-ridings he's going to get no matter what.
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Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by grumbler - Today at 01:38:28 PMQuote from: Threviel on Today at 11:33:30 AMPalestinians might not have been a nation in the 40's, but almost a century of conflict have no doubt made them one now.
Israel might not have been a nation in the 40's, but almost a century of conflict have no doubt made it one now (not saying this to disagree, because I agree, but it's useful to point out that northing about Palestine is as artificial as Israel).
Palestine is no more a nation than Israel, and no less. Both are artificial constructs of the way the European colonizers drew lines on a map.
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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by viper37 - Today at 01:38:02 PMQuote from: Josephus on April 27, 2024, 05:34:07 AMwith the exception of maybe Taylor SwiftIt would sure make an interesting Languish poll.
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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Grey Fox - Today at 01:35:19 PMI don't think Carney has what it takes to pull a Harper and become PM without any previous ties to Quebec.
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Off the Record / Re: Archaeologists do it in ho...
Last post by Legbiter - Today at 12:44:50 PM
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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 12:44:14 PMSo I watched the clip Carney posted, which is presumably the core of his message/where he thinks he's landing his argument:
https://x.com/MarkJCarney/status/1783959221396230605
Having watched that and understanding it's at a friendly think-tank, my instinct is he needs practice at politics. I actually checked the venue because my first thought was that he was delivering a message that was too political for the audience he was addressing, but that's not the case. Not that it's impossible and I could well believe he'd grow into the role, but I think especially jumping in now ahead of a national election with bad polls would be (from his perspective, at least) I think a big risk.
I can easily see the contrast he'd be able to draw stylistically with Trudeau - a sort of no time for dilettantes, I'm serious, "not flash, just Gordon" style message. In terms of the what is he in it for - what's the vision - I'm not sure "mission-oriented capitalism grounded in values" is there yet. Also if you're going to try to triangulate and do a third way style politics, you need two points to run against - in more recent years Obama was brilliant at setting up a false choice and then presenting himself as the middle, Macron does similar in his "en meme temps" politics. But in this I only see him talking about Poilievre so that point of "another way" doesn't quite land.
https://x.com/MarkJCarney/status/1783959221396230605
Having watched that and understanding it's at a friendly think-tank, my instinct is he needs practice at politics. I actually checked the venue because my first thought was that he was delivering a message that was too political for the audience he was addressing, but that's not the case. Not that it's impossible and I could well believe he'd grow into the role, but I think especially jumping in now ahead of a national election with bad polls would be (from his perspective, at least) I think a big risk.
I can easily see the contrast he'd be able to draw stylistically with Trudeau - a sort of no time for dilettantes, I'm serious, "not flash, just Gordon" style message. In terms of the what is he in it for - what's the vision - I'm not sure "mission-oriented capitalism grounded in values" is there yet. Also if you're going to try to triangulate and do a third way style politics, you need two points to run against - in more recent years Obama was brilliant at setting up a false choice and then presenting himself as the middle, Macron does similar in his "en meme temps" politics. But in this I only see him talking about Poilievre so that point of "another way" doesn't quite land.
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Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by OttoVonBismarck - Today at 12:34:22 PMQuote from: Josquius on Today at 10:10:01 AMAnd Germany shouldn't have lost most of eastern territories post WW2. That was a fucked up action forced on the world out of the grim reality of needing to keep the Soviets happy.
Wars have consequences. When you start a war and kill millions of people, the consequences are intrinsically just. Germany could never have been permitted to do what it did and simply return to the status quo, it needed, and justly received, serious punishment.
Also using the term "genocide" to refer to what was done to the Germans after WWII shows why you and people like you need to not use that word.
The Palestinians have not killed as many, but they are likewise worthy of punishment--in this case losing validity of their land claims. (Note, Israel could still always negotiate concessions to them, the Palestinians just no longer have any moral validity to their land claims.)
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Gaming HQ / Re: The Miscellaneous PC & vid...
Last post by Jacob - Today at 12:22:04 PMThat's cool. Thanks for the heads up - I might get it once it's done.
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Off the Record / Re: NHL Hockey thread
Last post by Jacob - Today at 12:18:41 PMIt's a bit like showing up at a wedding and loudly and incessantly talking about how much better some other wedding you went to last week was.
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Off the Record / Re: Archaeologists do it in ho...
Last post by Jacob - Today at 12:08:06 PMThose Yamnaya show up everywhere!