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Title: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: KRonn on October 08, 2009, 11:33:44 AM


Quotehttp://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/10/08/china.uyghur.threat/index.html

Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war

(CNN) -- A high-ranking al Qaeda leader has called on China's minority Uyghurs to prepare for a holy war against the Chinese government.
Security has been increased recently on the streets of Urumqi, Xinjiang's capital.

Security has been increased recently on the streets of Urumqi, Xinjiang's capital.

"There is no way for salvation and to lift this oppression and tyranny unless you ... seriously prepare for jihad in the name of God and carry your weapons against the ruthless brutal invader thugs," Abu Yahia Al-Libi said Wednesday in a video on an Islamist Web site. He delivered his message in Arabic.

The Uyghurs are Muslims in western China's Xinjiang province. Some Islamists refer to the region as East Turkistan.

Al-Libi's proclamation was in reaction to the violence that has recently shaken Urumqi, Xinjiang's capital. There, long-simmering resentment between minority Uyghurs and majority Han Chinese erupted into riots and left more than 200 people dead in July.

The following month, a series of stabbings -- with syringes used as weapons -- added to the unrest.

"What we saw and heard in the recent events in Turkistan was not accidental and didn't happen overnight. This is an intifada (an uprising) and a usual response to the decades of oppression, the organized cleansing and the systematic repression until the people had enough," Al-Libi said.

"This was not the first uprising that the oppressed Muslim people carried out, because they keep grieving and struggling to preserve their identity against the aggressors."

Chinese officials could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.

Al-Libi regularly produces video messages and has, in the past, called on Pakistanis and Somalis to resist their "apostate" governments. He is considered one of al Qaeda's top strategists and one of its most vocal leaders in its propaganda campaign

In his latest message, Al-Libi called on Muslims worldwide to support the Uyghurs. And he vowed that China will suffer the same fate that the former Soviet Union did when it invaded Afghanistan in the 1980s -- only to be thwarted by Islamist fighters.

"To you, the state of atheism and obstinacy: You are coming to an end and you will face the same fate of the Russian bear of disintegration and division," he said. "You will encounter the same defeat when your nation will fight in its own backyard the humble minority of Muslims who are stronger in faith."

In July, a leader of an al Qaeda-linked group also denounced Chinese treatment of Uyghurs and threatened revenge.

The leader of the Turkistan Islamic Party, in a video on Islamic Web sites, blamed the Chinese for "genocide."
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The speaker urged Uyghurs to "kill the Chinese communists where you find them, take them and besiege them and ambush them wherever you can."
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Slargos on October 08, 2009, 11:45:36 AM
Oh please let Al-Q start a spat with the only major power currently willing to actually treat with them the way they deserve.  :menace:
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:56:09 AM
Yes....yesssss....piss of the Chinese Government...please...
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:56:51 AM
Quote from: Slargos on October 08, 2009, 11:45:36 AM
Oh please let Al-Q start a spat with the only major power currently willing to actually treat with them the way they deserve.  :menace:

They will be praying they were merely being waterboarded by Dick Cheney if the Chinese get their hands on them.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: DisturbedPervert on October 08, 2009, 12:04:23 PM
In other news, China tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for genocide.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: saskganesh on October 08, 2009, 12:06:33 PM
did Al Qaeda promise significant cash and support or just well wishes?
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: viper37 on October 08, 2009, 02:21:15 PM
Command & Conquer: Generals.
:D
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: HVC on October 08, 2009, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:56:09 AM
Yes....yesssss....piss of the Chinese Government...please...
They'll jsut kill of all the Uyghurs. It's not like they'll send in the waves of chinese fodder into Afghanistan or Iraq.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Josquius on October 08, 2009, 03:20:16 PM
Nice news.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: Slargos on October 08, 2009, 11:45:36 AM
Oh please let Al-Q start a spat with the only major power currently willing to actually treat with them the way they deserve.  :menace:

Because that worked so well for the Soviets.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Ed Anger on October 08, 2009, 03:46:19 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 08, 2009, 02:21:15 PM
Command & Conquer: Generals.
:D

just put snipers in buildings and everybody dies.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 03:49:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 03:40:46 PM
Because that worked so well for the Soviets.

Yeah that was the Soviet's problem....there would be an international socialist paradise now if it was not for the Muslim resistance in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Barrister on October 08, 2009, 04:12:02 PM
How is this possibly news?

AQ tells all muslims to prepare for Holy War.  It's their answer to everything.

China is opressing Uyghurs?  It's time for HOLY WAR!!!111
France bans the headscarf?  It's time for HOLY WAR!!!111
McDonalds hamburgers aren't hal'al?  It's time for HOLY WAR!!!111
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 03:49:05 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 03:40:46 PM
Because that worked so well for the Soviets.

Yeah that was the Soviet's problem....there would be an international socialist paradise now if it was not for the Muslim resistance in Afghanistan.

Missed the point.  "treating them the way they deserve" as Slargos suggests didn't work for the Soviets.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Habbaku on October 08, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
Missed the point.  "treating them the way they deserve" as Slargos suggests didn't work for the Soviets.

Didn't work out very well for the Afghans, either.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: The Minsky Moment on October 08, 2009, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
Missed the point.  "treating them the way they deserve" as Slargos suggests didn't work for the Soviets.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if it doesn't work out for the Chinese, Slargos won't be too broke up about it.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 08, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
Missed the point.  "treating them the way they deserve" as Slargos suggests didn't work for the Soviets.

Didn't work out very well for the Afghans, either.

Got to keep their country didn't they?
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Malthus on October 08, 2009, 06:08:28 PM
Proposed battle cry:

"Uygers whobble but we don't fall down!"
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on October 08, 2009, 06:53:36 PM
Whoever loses, we win.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 08, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 08, 2009, 06:53:36 PM
Whoever loses, we win.
On the flip side, whoever wins, we lose.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Grallon on October 08, 2009, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 04:42:18 PM


Missed the point.  "treating them the way they deserve" as Slargos suggests didn't work for the Soviets.


Merely because the Soviets didn't do a proper job of it!  If you want the end of muslim terrorism -you have to eliminate all muslims.  It's quite simple. 

And before someone comes hollering about genocide I'll confine myself to remark that the destruction of one nasty infectious apendange on the human body is not genocide; it's merely the amputation of a gangrenes limb.




G.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Queequeg on October 08, 2009, 07:45:19 PM
Don't you have pubescents to hit on, Grallon?  Why do you waste so much time purveying hate where it isn't wanted?

The Uyghurs are awesome.  Truly unique history, fascinating phenotype, great native culture.  They are everything the Tibetans aren't. 
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Queequeg on October 08, 2009, 07:51:03 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F9%2F90%2FUyghur_girl.jpg&hash=957a91ac6f644bf85f73a18070da0982d679226a)

Cute young girls with uniquely fascinating phenotype and heirs to a long, great, diverse tradition of civilization in the Tarim Basin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fat Quebecer Pederasts. 
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on October 08, 2009, 07:53:21 PM
She's a bit young for you, Pseullus Polanski.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Queequeg on October 08, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 08, 2009, 07:53:21 PM
She's a bit young for you, Pseullus Polanski.
:rolleyes:
It is one of the few photos I can find of ethnic Uyghurs.  The area is pretty well sealed off and not as many UofMichigan underclassmen waste their summers trying to find spiritual enlightenment in the Tarim Basin.  Not as many photos.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 08, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 08, 2009, 07:53:21 PM
She's a bit young for you, Pseullus Polanski.
Is Pseullus: Siege in a sock puppet?
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 08, 2009, 08:17:45 PM
I've got popcorn for when A-Q pisses off the Chinese government.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Strix on October 08, 2009, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
Missed the point.  "treating them the way they deserve" as Slargos suggests didn't work for the Soviets.

That's because the Soviets made a major mistake. You can't send a country back to the Stone Age when they are already there.   :lol:
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:08:49 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 06:05:29 PM
Got to keep their country didn't they?

Well Afghanistan got destroyed and has never even remotely come close to recovery...I guess that is something to celebrate.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 11:16:12 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:08:49 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 06:05:29 PM
Got to keep their country didn't they?

Well Afghanistan got destroyed and has never even remotely come close to recovery...I guess that is something to celebrate.

It wasn't that far a fall.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 08, 2009, 11:32:19 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:08:49 PM
Well Afghanistan got destroyed and has never even remotely come close to recovery...I guess that is something to celebrate.

Are you confusing the Soviets with the Mongols?
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:41:47 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 08, 2009, 11:32:19 PM
Are you confusing the Soviets with the Mongols?

No but I don't think anybody would confuse 1975 Afghanistan with 1995 Afghanistan.  That country was blown to shit.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 11:16:12 PM
It wasn't that far a fall.

Um...American tourists used to hitch hike across Afghanistan.  In the 70s Afghanistan was at the end of the longest period of peace and stable government in its history.

It was a freaking tourist destination dude.  Ever since it has been ruled by warlords and existed in a state of siege and anarchy.

Yeah that worked out real well for them.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Monoriu on October 09, 2009, 12:41:46 AM
I thought they've been calling for holy war for decades now.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Razgovory on October 09, 2009, 01:33:32 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 08, 2009, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2009, 11:16:12 PM
It wasn't that far a fall.

Um...American tourists used to hitch hike across Afghanistan.  In the 70s Afghanistan was at the end of the longest period of peace and stable government in its history.

It was a freaking tourist destination dude.  Ever since it has been ruled by warlords and existed in a state of siege and anarchy.

Yeah that worked out real well for them.

People go hike in strange places.  I had a professor who was in the peacecorps and went to Afghanistan.  It wasn't that nifty a place to begin with.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Slargos on October 09, 2009, 01:48:53 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on October 08, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 08, 2009, 07:53:21 PM
She's a bit young for you, Pseullus Polanski.
:rolleyes:
It is one of the few photos I can find of ethnic Uyghurs.  The area is pretty well sealed off and not as many UofMichigan underclassmen waste their summers trying to find spiritual enlightenment in the Tarim Basin.  Not as many photos.

You mean all the other photos of the Uyghur women on the first page of the google image search for "Uyghur" didn't fit your intended profile?  :bowler:
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Slargos on October 09, 2009, 01:52:21 AM
I also found a picture of the proud men of Uyghur

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bikechina.com%2Fimages%2Fct%2Fag-43910035a.jpg&hash=b2486be96f69329aeb051343a1abde3cf74bff51)
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Octavian on October 09, 2009, 05:17:28 AM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcnreviews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F07%2Fchinese-cop-pointing-gun-at-subdued-uighur.jpg&hash=4cec8302bdb64c5236170e5e19c30215fdfd64dd)
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: KRonn on October 09, 2009, 09:33:45 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on October 08, 2009, 07:45:19 PM

The Uyghurs are awesome.  Truly unique history, fascinating phenotype, great native culture.  They are everything the Tibetans aren't.
Interesting. I don't know much about the Uyghurs or that area. I was assuming they are ethnically Chinese, but apparently not.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Razgovory on October 09, 2009, 10:40:49 AM
Why did he take off the guy's pants.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Strix on October 09, 2009, 10:54:40 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 09, 2009, 10:40:49 AM
Why did he take off the guy's pants.

He gave him a quick demonstration of how prison life will be later on.  :boff:
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Lettow77 on October 09, 2009, 11:32:21 AM
 This wont be the first time i've expressed my admiration for the Uyghurs here. Best of luck to them- killing communists is a good cause, and the animating struggle for liberty better still.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Queequeg on October 09, 2009, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: KRonn on October 09, 2009, 09:33:45 AM
Interesting. I don't know much about the Uyghurs or that area. I was assuming they are ethnically Chinese, but apparently not.
They are a pretty eclectic mix of Mongolians, Turks, Tocharians, Aryans and the Chinese. Their language is Turkic.  Very interesting place, one of the great crossroads of civilizations even by Central Asian standards. 
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 09, 2009, 04:58:41 PM
Chinese undercover cops are dressing pretty well these days.
Title: Re: Al Qaeda tells China's Uyghurs to prepare for holy war
Post by: The Brain on October 09, 2009, 05:42:07 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on October 09, 2009, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: KRonn on October 09, 2009, 09:33:45 AM
Interesting. I don't know much about the Uyghurs or that area. I was assuming they are ethnically Chinese, but apparently not.
They are a pretty eclectic mix of Mongolians, Turks, Tocharians, Aryans and the Chinese. Their language is Turkic.  Very interesting place, one of the great crossroads of civilizations even by Central Asian standards.

It's the middle of fucking nowhere and they probably specify "color" when asked what kind of TV they wanna buy.