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#31
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Tamas - April 30, 2024, 04:18:26 PM
As our first election at our new home, we'll casting our votes for Police Commissioner on Thursday.  :bowler:
#32
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by crazy canuck - April 30, 2024, 04:16:26 PM
I explained the context of the speech but based on your own research and a short video clip you saw, you got it all figured out.  Excellent.
#33
Off the Record / Re: 2024 US Presidential Elect...
Last post by Zanza - April 30, 2024, 04:06:16 PM
Why did all of these cases against him somehow only really start this year as opposed to two or three years ago?
#34
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Sheilbh - April 30, 2024, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on April 30, 2024, 04:01:54 PMI like Rail Britania  :bowler:
So that won the Twitter poll run by Labour's Shadow Transport Minister, which I suppose is just another point to Twitter not being the real world :lol:
#35
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Savonarola - April 30, 2024, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 30, 2024, 03:51:59 PMTotally separate "National Rail Service" is dreadful. The public can't be trusted with anything <_<


I like Rail Britania  :bowler:
#36
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Barrister - April 30, 2024, 03:58:26 PM
[my post didn't save for some reason, not important enough to re-type]
#37
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by PJL - April 30, 2024, 03:55:11 PM
Since we're so London centric in this country, might as well call it the LTER, the London To Everywhere Railway.
#38
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Sheilbh - April 30, 2024, 03:51:59 PM
Totally separate "National Rail Service" is dreadful. The public can't be trusted with anything <_<
#39
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Sheilbh - April 30, 2024, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 30, 2024, 03:30:01 PMConduct in Parliament - I'm really of two minds.  You don't want Parliament to be a total circus.  I've said before how I hate the accusations of "lying" which is absolutely prohibited in Parliament and rightly so.  But politics is serious, tempers are allowed to be heated, and I don't want a university debate atmosphere where everyone is super polite either.
I agree on "lying" but more generally I think it is good to basically ban people from impugning people's motives because there's no way to know. We don't see into each other's souls and forcing an assumption that everyone is operating on good faith even if you think they're wrong/mad/evil is good - and if they do say something that turns out to be untrue force them back to withdraw it.

Otherwise I tend to admire Aussie robustness :ph34r: While I'm disappointed he's become a China shill in retirement I'm a huge admirer of Paul Keating so I think "wacko" is positively mild :lol: (No issue with spineless, consorting with white nationalists, or not fit to be PM either - especially if true).

QuoteI think you are missing important context.  This is an audience that is friendly to the Liberal party.  Not to him.  His purpose was to critique the recent budget.  Had he done so using political rhetoric he would have received a very cold reception.  He needed to deliver the message the way he did.

The other context you are missing is he was widely complimented in the newspapers for taking that stand.  It would have been a lot easier for him to do as you suggest he should have done and given a rah rah political speech to adoring supporters.  The fact he did not do that is a good, not a bad sign.
I mean I'm still not convinced this is necessarily a good argument for someone to take a very political role.

The clip he shared was all on the attack on the right - and as I say I think it was flat. Again, not insurmountable and maybe what you'd expect from someone who's new to politics but if I was looking for someone to save the government it'd be a pretty big warning sign for me.
#40
Off the Record / Re: Elon Musk: Always A Douche
Last post by Habbaku - April 30, 2024, 03:34:31 PM
Guess the remaining staff just need to learn how to be more hardcore.