https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/28/turkey-airport-explosions-ataturak-istanbul
Situation evolving, claims of 28 dead around so far.
Top coverage by the way by @rcallimachi. Speculation that the attack is punishment for Turkey's rapprochement with Israel.
Quote from: Hamilcar on June 28, 2016, 04:31:01 PM
Speculation that the attack is punishment for Turkey's rapprochement with Israel.
It's also two year anniversary for IS Caliphate. :ph34r:
There's been several suicide bombings in Lebanon recently as well. :(
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-lebanon-idUSKCN0ZE14V
We were just there. Looking at the pictures and the videos... We were right where all of this happened just four months ago... :(
QuotePolice manning a checkpoint at the airport's international terminal shot at two of the attackers as they approached, a Turkish official said. A third bomber detonated explosives in the nearby parking lot, the official said.
Footage broadcast by Turkish media showed at least one blast inside the terminal, while other images showed panicked travelers fleeing and debris strewn across the terminal and parking garage.
There was "no security lapse at the airport," Yildirim said at a news conference at the airport after the attack. He said the attackers arrived at the airport in a taxi, and that police officers and foreign nationals were among the dead.
Always sucks to get your ticket punched LOD, but it sounds like some heads-up cops saved lives before these fuckers could get into the terminal.
Quote from: merithyn on June 28, 2016, 10:44:23 PM
We were just there. Looking at the pictures and the videos... We were right where all of this happened just four months ago... :(
May parents had that experience when they visited Turkey as well. Only it was a few days after they had been there. Pity I always wanted to see Istanbul but no way I am traveling there now.
I am going to my annual Ramadan dinner with my Turkish buds on Thursday. I am sure they will have some thoughts :(
The attacks on Istanbul are becoming a regular event :(
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: merithyn on June 28, 2016, 10:44:23 PM
We were just there. Looking at the pictures and the videos... We were right where all of this happened just four months ago... :(
May parents had that experience when they visited Turkey as well. Only it was a few days after they had been there. Pity I always wanted to see Istanbul but no way I am traveling there now.
I am going to my annual Ramadan dinner with my Turkish buds on Thursday. I am sure they will have some thoughts :(
Martinus wanted me to ask you how your cucking was going.
as bad is it is (and it is bad), it's part of the price Turkey has to pay for at minimum tolerating IS for years (by letting IS-recruits cross the border to-and-fro unhindered, healing them in their hospitals, etc) and at worst actively helping them (Erdogan's weapons convoy, Erdogan's family buying their oil...).
Erdogan wants to play with 'that' religion, these are the results.
Terrible. :(
Do we even know it is the IS? Erdogan is actively escalating the Kurdish conflict, so this could just be the response by the PKK (or however they call themselves these days).
The Turkish tourism industry is nearly dead. Russia has issued a boycott (also Erdogan kowtowed in the Kremlin this week) and Europeans don't feel safe anymore.
PKK has already denied carrying out the attack (for what that's worth). PKK usually tries to strike at the state-apparatus directly (military/police targets)(for what that's worth, again).
This seems like a really big story--in part because it isn't generating the impact of one. It is a real highlight of how Turkey is slipping away in the western consciousness.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2016, 01:46:44 PM
This seems like a really big story--in part because it isn't generating the impact of one. It is a real highlight of how Turkey is slipping away in the western consciousness.
Do you propose a new march on Vienna?
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 29, 2016, 07:05:39 AM
PKK has already denied carrying out the attack (for what that's worth). PKK usually tries to strike at the state-apparatus directly (military/police targets)(for what that's worth, again).
I don't think PKK uses suicide attacks.
Quote from: The Brain on June 29, 2016, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2016, 01:46:44 PM
This seems like a really big story--in part because it isn't generating the impact of one. It is a real highlight of how Turkey is slipping away in the western consciousness.
Do you propose a new march on Vienna?
Nah. I expect Presidents Putin and Trump to liberate
Istanbul Constantinople and usher in a new Byzantine era.
The religion of peace strikes again.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on June 29, 2016, 01:50:26 AM
The attacks on Istanbul are becoming a regular event :(
It's desperately sad :(
Visited for the first time in January and absolutely loved it, it's really wonderful city :(
Quote from: alfred russel on June 29, 2016, 01:46:44 PM
This seems like a really big story--in part because it isn't generating the impact of one. It is a real highlight of how Turkey is slipping away in the western consciousness.
Dunno, coverage over here is being pretty big. Not much difference with the Orlando shooting.
Quote from: Barrister on June 29, 2016, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 29, 2016, 07:05:39 AM
PKK has already denied carrying out the attack (for what that's worth). PKK usually tries to strike at the state-apparatus directly (military/police targets)(for what that's worth, again).
I don't think PKK uses suicide attacks.
They have before.
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 29, 2016, 04:47:42 AM
as bad is it is (and it is bad), it's part of the price Turkey has to pay for at minimum tolerating IS for years (by letting IS-recruits cross the border to-and-fro unhindered, healing them in their hospitals, etc) and at worst actively helping them (Erdogan's weapons convoy, Erdogan's family buying their oil...).
Erdogan wants to play with 'that' religion, these are the results.
So I guess we aren't all Turks, now. :(
Terrible attack. This story is getting a lot of coverage here.
So, are people going to put up Turkish flag overlays on their facebook photos?
I thought a Turkish friend of mine was at the airport that day. Turns out I misremembered and he had flown the day before. Relief.
I remember back at Easter time when I visited Istanbul.
I found it very bizarre that you had this big security area just for entering the airport.
Now I understand.
Sucks to be the taxi driver who drove them there. I'd be really interested to know his POV on all this. Intruiging though sad.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 30, 2016, 01:54:56 PM
So, are people going to put up Turkish flag overlays on their facebook photos?
OH MY GOD I AM SUCH A HYPOCRITICAL ASSHOLE FOR...oh wait no I never put any overlays on facebook ever. So no I guess not.
I am going to listen to what my Turkish friends have to say about it and commiserate tonight. Is there something else I should be doing?
Kind of cool the US issued a travel advisory the day before the attack.
Quote from: Valmy on June 30, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 30, 2016, 01:54:56 PM
So, are people going to put up Turkish flag overlays on their facebook photos?
OH MY GOD I AM SUCH A HYPOCRITICAL ASSHOLE FOR...oh wait no I never put any overlays on facebook ever. So no I guess not.
I am going to listen to what my Turkish friends have to say about it and commiserate tonight. Is there something else I should be doing?
Tear out your hair and rend your garments.
Quote from: garbon on June 30, 2016, 04:56:35 PM
Tear out your hair and rend your garments.
Well I wailed on the inside.
Anyway even for the standards of Turkey these days everybody was pretty shocked by the sheer brutality of this particular attack. Meanwhile Erdogan is really cracking down on the Turkish expats over here. He even has hired Texas attorneys to sue them to shut down their charter school system they have set up. They have all pretty much been pushed out of Turkey now. It was fortunate my parents were able to visit when they did.
The pettyness and paranoia of Erdogan is really amazing. Or maybe not so amazing for anybody in a country ruled by a Putin-wannabe.
Quote from: Valmy on June 30, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 30, 2016, 01:54:56 PM
So, are people going to put up Turkish flag overlays on their facebook photos?
OH MY GOD I AM SUCH A HYPOCRITICAL ASSHOLE FOR...oh wait no I never put any overlays on facebook ever. So no I guess not.
I am going to listen to what my Turkish friends have to say about it and commiserate tonight. Is there something else I should be doing?
I didn't specify you. Just wondered if the people go on about "Radical Islam" would be comfortable putting a Muslim crescent up. French attacks: Evil Muslim and those poor people! Orlando attacks: Evil Muslims and well,... Istanbul attacks: Meh, Turkey kinda deserved it.
I was watching Peter King (R-NY) from the Homeland Security Committee on one of the talking head shows about Istanbul--first thing he said about improving airport security was that we need to invest in more license plate readers.
Except the Istanbul guys took taxis to the airport.
I wonder how many steak dinners it cost the plate recognition companies for that statement.
Even if they used their own cars, I fail to see how plate readers would help combat terror attacks. Do Isis use personalized plates? :huh:
Quote from: celedhring on July 01, 2016, 10:07:38 AM
Even if they used their own cars, I fail to see how plate readers would help combat terror attacks. Do Isis use personalized plates? :huh:
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The 3rd picture turns me on.
For what it's worth I've got friends who do have a Turkish flag overlay on their Facebook...
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 01, 2016, 03:17:26 PM
For what it's worth I've got friends who do have a Turkish flag overlay on their Facebook...
There you go Raz.
Well, that does restore my faith in humanity. :)
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 01, 2016, 03:17:26 PM
For what it's worth I've got friends who do have a Turkish flag overlay on their Facebook...
Which they should probably replace with a Bangladesh overlay now. Which is probably why it is best not to indulge in that sort of thing in the first place.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 02, 2016, 03:19:30 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 01, 2016, 03:17:26 PM
For what it's worth I've got friends who do have a Turkish flag overlay on their Facebook...
Which they should probably replace with a Bangladesh overlay now. Which is probably why it is best not to indulge in that sort of thing in the first place.
Well quite.
Awful attack in Dhaka :(
Wow ISIS is really spreading well into non-Arab places in the world.
Poor Muslims man. Things just keep going from worse to worse.