Quote from: HVC on May 10, 2024, 09:11:55 PMWhite flight has evolved. Instead of moving, whites just split off and create a new city
New City created in Louisiana
Quote from: Josquius on May 10, 2024, 02:32:55 PMMy first introduction to Jews as a thing that actually exists in the modern west and anti - semitism was South Park.
That I'm aware of I can't remember ever meeting a Jewish person before then. They just existed as some vague thing in the history books from Ww2.
I really don't think my experience in this is too unusual.
And I grew up not too far from one of the biggest heredi communities around.
Quote from: Josquius on May 10, 2024, 03:16:52 AMThere's also "Yes and" and "Did you also consider this angle".
I'm not accusing you of anything here. Just speaking about attitudes to historic misdeeds in the world.
Quote from: Jacob on May 10, 2024, 01:25:38 PMYeah, Sheilbh - I think you (or maybe the Tory think-tankers you're talking about) are overstating what Poilievre is offering the younger generation on housing. It's mostly "housing sucks and that's Trudeau's fault, amirite" and "insofar as there's a housing crisis, how about we solve it by applying vague right wing generalities. Also woke Trudeau sucks and the cost of living crisis is his fault; it'll be totally different if you vote for us!"Yeah I think that's fair. But I'd say that's inevitable whenever lessons from politics in one country are then "learned from" in another - the context for its reception is always going to be different. But also politics isn't (and has never been) about policy and I think what Poilievre suggested was political vindication for that group of nerds.
For that to work for the UK Tories it'll require a Labour government in power for a while while that crisis continues unabated.
QuoteI'm just hoping voters are smart enough to recognise this and judge the next government (assuming it's non tory) accordinglyI don't think voters are particularly kind in their judgements of current governments. But I also think they have pretty long memories. I think I remember Cecil Parkinson or some other Tory grandee, saying in the 2005 election that fundamentally voters hadn't forgotten Black Wednesday and I think in a large part in 2017 and 19 voters hadn't forgotten the financial crisis. I think voters will remember the cost of living crisis (broadly no more the Tories fault than Canada's is Trudeau's), and the perception of what went on with Truss (I think she was a disaster but there's a lot going on there). I think the same goes for the Winter of Discontent and other examples to.
Quote from: HVC on May 10, 2024, 02:47:06 PMSee, China always liesBut these dogs have been observed by Western canine nerds looking at satellite images
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