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Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 12:10:04 PM

The point I meant about every woman has had a story wasn't that because of their experience they have a "phobia" (these mainly straight women with male partners etc etc), but that every woman I've spoken to about this has a story.

Similarly it's not about distrust or fear of the majority of men or whatever but about a random guy and, sadly, that's again because most women have a story. It is, to nick a phrase, lived experience for many, many women that men can be very dangerous to them.

It's something men should try to think about and be mindful of - not least because we're not mind readers so women have no way of knowing which one is going to be the bad guy.

#2

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Josquius - Today at 12:08:20 PM

Josq, encountering a bear on a trail is not "almost certain death" and the possibility of being eaten alive is quite small. In Canada, on average 3 people are killed annually by bears; people encounter bears significantly more frequently than that.

The version I've heard has you transported to a isolated forest with a bear or a man. Not just seeing a bear in a normal situation on a hiking trail.
The odds of the bear being freaked out and attacking are pretty high.
Also I'm assuming brown or polar bear here. I understand black bears are cowards.
In Svalbard it's literally illegal to leave town without a gun the bears are just that dangerous.

#3

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Jacob - Today at 12:05:48 PM

Josq, encountering a bear on a trail is not "almost certain death" and the possibility of being eaten alive is quite small. In Canada, on average 3 people are killed annually by bears; people encounter bears significantly more frequently than that.

#4

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Sophie Scholl - Today at 11:57:34 AM

Some of you just...

#5

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Josquius - Today at 11:48:28 AM

Hmmm... well... I live in a place where bears are fairly frequent. I can tell you that more women are killed by men every year than are killed by bears. I'd wager that the number of incidents of women having had encounters where they felt threatened or scared by a man's behaviour is orders of magnitude greater than those who've had scary encounters with bears. I think most women have felt endangered by a man at some point in there lives; and if they haven't, they know a women who has. I doubt the same is true when it comes to bears.

Perhaps if you calculated the rate of scary encounters and the rate of murders per encounter, men would be statistically safer than bears due to the large number of encounters. But in terms of absolute numbers men have a much higher impact on women's safety than bears.

It seems only natural that this would impact women's threat perception. And it seems pretty silly to be offended by that, IMO.

Yes. Of women I've spoken to about it I think more or less all have experienced male violence or the threat/risk of violence. Also waited with female friends at the bus stop that I don't need at a discreet request because there's a man who is concerning them in some way.

I think it's mad to be offended by that or think it's about you.

It's made me conscious of how I behave - I mean I'm an incredibly weak, fairly herbiverous gay man but that's not clear at night when I'm walking down the street. So if I'm walking somewhere for example and I'm behind a woman on her own, chances are I'll cross the road - no extra time/impact for me, but hopefully remove something that could concern her.

Who thinks it's about them?

If a woman has been a victim of assault then it's obvious they would have this irrational fear of all men and make dangerous decisions rather than risk an encounter with their phobia.
Logically this is clearly wrong. But phobias don't follow logic so nobody can be blamed there.

But when someone hasn't been a victim of such a thing, has no such phobia, and is still pushing this idea that almost certain death, possibly being eaten alive, is better than being alone with a random man....
 That a majority of men couldn't be trusted in this situation of being alone with a random woman.... That is just sexist and dumb.

#6

Off the Record / Re: NHL Hockey thread

Last post by Sophie Scholl - Today at 11:46:12 AM

Today is the last day of the PWHL regular season. The playoffs start... Wednesday I think? Toronto is the top seed. 

#7

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 11:26:40 AM

You need to have means to get to America frpk house countries, though.

I am not saying the majority of Muslims in Europe want caliphate I am sure they do not. What I am unsure about is how many of them are opposed to the thought enough to work against it, but that part shan't become an issue for many decades.

But I think it's naive to think they or their families have come to Europe because of shared values. I am pretty sure most migrants everywhere are economic ones and they settle in their new countries despite and not because of the cultural differences from their original home.

Koopman's studies point to about 40% to 50% of muslims being fundamentalist. So pretty sure that there's a lot of them that would gladly dismantle our civilization and replace it with islamist junk.
In Brussels at least that conversion seems quite advanced too (at the verge of chasing away the traditional secularists out of the Parti Socialiste, imagine that)

#8

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 11:06:23 AM

Hmmm... well... I live in a place where bears are fairly frequent. I can tell you that more women are killed by men every year than are killed by bears. I'd wager that the number of incidents of women having had encounters where they felt threatened or scared by a man's behaviour is orders of magnitude greater than those who've had scary encounters with bears. I think most women have felt endangered by a man at some point in there lives; and if they haven't, they know a women who has. I doubt the same is true when it comes to bears.

Perhaps if you calculated the rate of scary encounters and the rate of murders per encounter, men would be statistically safer than bears due to the large number of encounters. But in terms of absolute numbers men have a much higher impact on women's safety than bears.

It seems only natural that this would impact women's threat perception. And it seems pretty silly to be offended by that, IMO.

Yes. Of women I've spoken to about it I think more or less all have experienced male violence or the threat/risk of violence. Also waited with female friends at the bus stop that I don't need at a discreet request because there's a man who is concerning them in some way.

I think it's mad to be offended by that or think it's about you.

It's made me conscious of how I behave - I mean I'm an incredibly weak, fairly herbiverous gay man but that's not clear at night when I'm walking down the street. So if I'm walking somewhere for example and I'm behind a woman on her own, chances are I'll cross the road - no extra time/impact for me, but hopefully remove something that could concern her.

#9

Off the Record / Re: Dead Pool 2024

Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 10:59:46 AM

Oh RIP

#10

Off the Record / Re: Dead Pool 2024

Last post by Solmyr - Today at 10:43:31 AM

RIP Theoden King. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68962192